Quick everyone, watch it before WB buries the criticism for a cancelled show

The funniest thing about Caleb’s “you were only a tourist, man. I lived there” line to Toby, was that, due to PLL’s weird convoluted timeline, Caleb was only in Ravenswood for a week or two.

the absolute, unbridled, batshit audacity of a spinoff show "breaking up" one of the main, most longstanding/beloved couples from their parent show so that one of the characters could date a ghost. completely unparalleled

Could we talk about how this is the reason caleb is an alcoholic for like three episodes when he goes back to PLL

How dare you reduce Caleb to a boy toy and JUST hanna’s boyfriend! He was far more than that. He was also Spencer’s boyfriend too. They don’t just share secrets you know.

My favorite comment from the first upload was *"The scariest part of Ravenswood was Caleb's haircut,"* so I'm preserving that take for posterity.

Convinced WB is frantically trying to bury this because they are too embarrassed.

IT MADE ME SO UPSET CALEB PACKED UP EVERYTHING AND LEFT HANNAH TO HELP A RANDOM GIRL HE KNEW FOR AN HOUR

they deprived us of Caleb in PLL for this

Warner Bros: I thought you were dead… Space Ninja: My death was… greatly exaggerated

it gets even better once you realize Caleb went back to Rosewood to the PLL universe, was really weird for about 3 days, told a story about some fireflies went jogging 1 time and then completely moved on and just never mentioned any of the supernatural traumatizing shit he went through in Ravenswood to anyone at all

The narration is giving the vibes of one of the bad fanfics that start like, " Hi, my name is Soran RavenBalm and I'm the cousin is the main character you all love". That's my biggest fanfic pet peeves so this rally gave me the shivers 😨

Imagine a “Supernatural” spinoff where one of the side characters gets a regular 9-5 office job and literally nothing of note happens

Isn’t using those clips to help criticise the show the literal definition of fair use? They are definitely abusing the copyright system here…

Caleb was NOT just Hanna’s boyfriend. He was also completely made up for plot armor and to tie up any loose ends that Marlene was too lazy to do.

Making a spinoff where one of the main show's protagonist's love interest is the main character and therefore has to leave her has got to be the quickest easiest way to have part of your audience be completely AGAINST said spinoff.

i can’t believe THIS is the reason my man caleb left hanna😫😫

Hannah´s cameo fucks over the continuity of PLL season five. They have a giant argument because Caleb came home traumatized from Ravenswood and both acknowledge that Hanna can´t understand because she wasn´t there and doesn´t know what happened there

Honestly, the core idea for Ravenswood wasn’t awful. The main problem, aside from the HORRENDOUS acting and editing and writing, is that this show made absolutely no sense as a PLL spin off. There were zero supernatural elements to that show until we met Mrs. Grunwald, which was only done to introduce the town of Ravenswood. If this idea had been better executed as a stand alone show far from Marlene Kings grasp, I feel like it could’ve worked. Gives me The Vampire Diaries vibes with a splash of Supernatural now that I rewatch it, and both those shows were and still are insanely popular Edit: I wrote this comment halfway through the video, so when you compared the ending to TVD I screamed 😂

They probably saw 'the vapire diaries' get their spin off with 'the Originals' and wanted to do the same. But the Originals were 1) really interesting characters (over 1000 years old with at least that many ennemies to fight) and 2) so great they were outshining the TVD cast: people weren't watching for Elena, Stefen and Damon anymore. Caleb was great, but as you said, he was just Hannah's boyfriend.

Ravenswood could’ve been self-aware satire or a PLL Parody.

Hannah is so used to deal with all types of shit that she heard ghost girl and just went yeah ok whatever

When you said "are you guys still awake? Did you fall asleep?" I suddenly realized that I actually had COMPLETELY stopped listening. To like a ten second clip. Very well illustrated point, FSN

I’m not convinced even WB lawyers could argue that “Ravenswood” was an intellectual property 😂

*IT’S BACK!! NINJA REALLY RISKED IT ALL FOR US! HERE’S YOUR CROWN KING* 👑

Wait, ohmigod, is *this* why Caleb and Hannah's relationship was so weird afterwards?! It was like overnight they hated each other and didn't want to be together but Marlene was holding them hostage.

I love it when someone is badly injured enough to die without a single visible piece of damage to face or body

It’s wild that they thought a good spinoff was a ghost show when the whole premise of PLL is how is this dead girl still tormenting us? It’s like, if ghosts exist, I guess we have a pretty solid theory.

the actress that has been doing exclusively christmas romantic comedies is the mean girl in radio rebel btw

Pretty Little Liars had so many wtf moments that I forgot about the time Hannah’s boyfriend moved to a literal ghost town 😂

I was so annoyed with PLL making a spin off series that involved supernatural occurrences. Because if there are supernatural things going on in this universe then why wasn’t A non-human ? The things that A was doing was so unrealistic and not humanly possible that it would’ve made sense for A to be some kind of spirit or whatever. But ofc they didn’t go down that path and made a weird spin off series instead.

I personally think the only reason Caleb was chosen for the spin-off was because he was a well-loved character that had nothing to do with the main mystery. I know that PLL's mystery is really bad but when I re watched the show I realized that every main love interest ends up having some past to either Alison or A. The strongest connection Caleb has outside of Hanna would be the whole barley working for Jenna thing back in season 1. Since I don't think they were ever going have him have a past with Alison or A (and he never did) he would be an easy character to write out that was liked by the fandom. I love Caleb but he should've just stayed in PLL, there were possibilities in terms of (as and audience member) wanting to know about his past they could've had him go to a normal town and learn more about his family and their connection to the town and their history. Like I personally think there were many storylines they could've done with him in PLL (tied to the main mystery or not) but he went to Ravenswood. Also you can tell they weren't prepared for Caleb to leave so only watching PLL makes their breakup very sudden and almost makes no sense especially when he does return because Ravenswood was cancelled, we think that he fell in love with another girl in one week then something happened to her so now he wants Hanna back. That's not what it is but it's what it comes across as. Still love Caleb though Edited: So I just watched an interview of Tyler Blackburn talking about how he found out about Ravenswood. Apparently they knew since almost (if not) the beginning of filming season 4. Maybe I don't know how filming works but I'm pretty sure that could've been enough time to A) write it so Caleb and Hanna's relationship was just not working anymore so that their breakup would feel natural and not out of nowhere and confusing or B) give Caleb a solid reason for staying in Ravenswood for example, instead of Spencer and Toby going to Ravenswood have it be Caleb and someone else (probably Hanna) and have him notice that his family has a connection to the town or something so when the Halloween episode happens there's a more logical reason for him to stay instead of random girl he meant on a bus.

They are embarrassed that's why they tried to block it so many times lol

Can someone explain to me why companies are so reluctant to just take the L

The CGI spider on the woman’s face is a better actor than most of the cast…✋🏼🤭

marlene king should really learn that if you’re setting up a mystery, you have to conclude it!!! even if your audience guesses it, it’s better that than to never give an answer

They did it. I can't believe a network managed to out-do the CW by making a show that is just terrible in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT.

so many people who are truly creative and have ideas for films or series that would amaze people all over the globe will never have the chance to realize their potential and THEN there is THIS...

The funniest thing for me is that I started watching the video because I’ve never heard of the show even though I was a huge PLL fan at the time. And then… I recognised the faces of people in the show and remembered THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED IT. And my brain just erased it for me.

10:47 "Let me show you Ravenswood's attempt at a jumpscare" *Shows Warner Bros' logo* Me: FUCK SAKE! I mean... WB's pretty scary if you're a content creator, so that's not wrong.

If a show randomly introduces a brand new setting of new characters who you've never seen before, and never hear mention of again, 99.9% of the time, it's a blatant set-up for an attempted spin-off show. See also The Farm for The Office, Witchright Hall for Sabrina, or Valley Girls for Gossip Girl.

So PLL and Ravenswood are the reason we got Riverdale and CHAOS, murder mystery show has a supernatural spinoff that tanks and original show goes on to long and losses plot

Ravenswood: Things don't make sense 🤷. Riverdale: We could be BFF'S ❤️.

It really stressed me out that we had to sit through the whole season and we got more questions than answers. Also, I hated that caleb just forgot hannah and "fell in love" with the ghost of miranda, like, what?

I took EVERYTHING out of me to finish this incredibly TERRIBLE joke of a show.

I think they don't like you pointing out the fact that this show, that they invested so much in, bombed so badly and want to quietly pretend their failures don't exist 🤣

Caleb was one of PLL's beloved characters. As a young teenager who adored PLL, his return to the main show felt like Christmas 😂

Watching this makes me want to see you talk about other short-lived shows like The Secret Circle, The Nine Lives of Chloe King and The Shannara Chronicles. Your commentary is better than the actual show.

So this is what I imagine it will be like when Sabrina shows up in Riverdale. Wild weird mix of terrible writing

I think one of the main reasons this show was doomed from the very start was the fact that the only PLL viewers who cared about Caleb were Hanna/Caleb shippers, and they would never have tuned in to the show that caused for him and Hanna to break up and him to get another love interest.

Warning - 0:00 Spoilers - 0:55 Breakdown - 3:00 The characters - 8:28 , 17:45 , 24:34 , 26:34 🔸Caleb - 8:32 , 24:44 🔸Miranda - 12:00 , 24:52 🔸Hanna Marin - 13:11 🔸Hanna and Miranda talking - 14:24 🔸Miss Grunwald - 20:52 🔸Remy - 24:55 🔸Luke - 25:14 🔸Olivia (Luke's twin sister) - 25:22 Merritt Patterson (actress who plays Olivia) - 25:49 🔸Villain of the show - 26:57 Show directing - 9:21 The acting of show - 15:54 Quick compilation - 18:34 (skip this if it seems too long to view) Ravenswood could be a movie - 22:17 Final scene - 27:38

They did it again! The bloody cheek of them, maybe the company can’t take the critique?! 😂

keeping my fingers crossed that that strike doesn't happen and this can stay up. third time's the charm right?

I loved *_PLL_* and I knew about *_Ravenswood_* when it came out, but I never had any inclination of checking it out (which is weird because I've always been really into spooky stuff); I must have known, somehow, that it wasn't worth it.

I was trying to figure out why that actress was so familiar! My dad watches Hallmark Christmas movies all the time, and it drives everyone else in the house crazy. I've seen her plenty in those movies.

I’ve…never even heard of this show until now.

Yo Space Ninja, did you hear that Emily in Paris has a second season coming to netflix?

"¿How many cuts can you have to convey just one action?" 15 in a six second scene from Taken 3, where Liam Neeson jumps over a fence.

kinda love that this show did the whole 13 reasons why ghost lover storyline years before. ravenswood feels like a grade A+ satire of pretty little liars. but it is INSANE that a show with marlene king working on it can’t build tension. one of the few very good things about pll is that there’s that constant fear of the characters being outsmarted by A again.

It's gonna be comedy gold if he does PLL the Perfectionist

This is so infuriating, copyright claims are no joke, and the fact that WB can make fake claims over and over again is... ugh. Anyways, this video is really good my guy, you earned a new subscriber!

"This show feels like an SNL skit of what a Marlene King horror show would be like" might be the most accurate summary of any show I have ever heard.

What I find sad is the Ravenswood episode of pretty little liars in season 4 was actually one of my favorites. I loved the mystery behind that entire town so I was really looking forward on to an expansion of that but but the series that we got was a big disappointment compared to the episode that introduced it

Quote of the Day: “Don’t eat too many KitKats.”

Hanna and Alison's actresses look so similar that I consistently have trouble telling them apart

the clips of this show look like what i’d describe if someone forty years from now told me to recall the vampire diaries.

I was really surprised to see Brett Dier here. I’ve always thought of him as a r e a l l y competent actor, I mean I think he was flawless in Jane the Virgin and now I’m quite confused 😕

the WB logo made the jump scare example so much scarier!

Space Ninja: I don't understand why Warner Bros is copystriking me Also Space Ninja: This is unironically the worst show in the history of mankind

could you by any chance do a video on the secret circle?? it came out in 2011 on the cw and it got canceled right as the plot was getting good. i really enjoyed it (here’s to hoping for a reboot) but literally no one talks about it

Honestly I'm surprised that not everyone caught on that the halloween episode was leading to a spinoff. It was so on the nose and Caleb's sudden decisiom to leave just made it obvious that they had an agenda when writing this show. It was hilarious seeing Caleb return in Season 5 though.

I think WB is trying to take it down cause they’re working on a reboot with hbo right now. They want us to forget about this show and the other failed Alison spin-off, so they’re “new idea” of a spin-off for PLL looks fresh.

The premise feels like if they’d tried to make the show Supernatural as a spin-off of Grey’s Anatomy…one episode one of the docs travels with her boyfriend, Sam, to a spooky town and supernatural shit happens…then she just goes back to doctoring and leaves Sam to explore the supernatural shit. Both shows continue like nothing happened…wtf CW?

it’s a shame the show even exists because Michael Cera is not a bad actor and the lines he has make me feel so bad for him in this😭

i feel like Ravenswood would've been a hit with the CW audience tbh

WB really said if we made no money on this show no one can

I was a HUGE PLL fan and was quite excited for Raveswood, I liked Caleb and was intrigued by the noir investigation vibe. However, I couldn't go past the first episode. Almost a decade later I can BARELY remember a thing.

Warner Brothers copyright striking this video two times is the epitome of that "Don't touch my garbage!" meme.

Brett Dier (the “grumpy guy”) is one of the leads in the show Jane The Virgin and he’s so good in it! Crazy to think this is what he was in beforehand 😂

I tried to watch this video yesterday and every single time I realize it's not available anymore, this time I'm not letting it go, I jumped on it as soon as it was released.

The fact that this show existed still baffles me sometimes. I hope you cover The Perfectionists at some point and Marlene King’s other awful shows

Woww, a haircut and beard really changes a person. I thought we werejust collectively ignoring that Caleb isn't played by the same actor in both sshows but it's literally the same guy lmaoo.

I wonder if they were trying to replicate the success that the CW had with their backdoor pilot episode on Vampire Diaries for The Originals. The Originals went on to run for 5 seasons and from my pov, was better than its predecessor simply because the main cast were actual grown-ups and not high school kids. They even used an old character from The Originals, the old lady

Basically PLL tried to pull a Rivedale before Riverdale

Brett dier is such a good actor. The show didn’t deserve him 😩

He seriously dumped his gf for. a. ghost I can’t.

Repost from the original video: I think you should do PLL: The Perfectionists now that you've done the two other shows in the PLL universe

so basically, they succeed at the same thing riverdale does: having a genuinely dark and creepy aesthetic going on in the town &... having nonsensical storylines be portrayed by conventionally attractive people in order to pass it off as if they know exactly what they're doing / exactly where the plot is going while the audience is just ~along for the ride~ ... a.k.a. ~it's up to us to figure out how all the pieces fit...~ except they make the pieces as they go along and are even more confused than us

FSN's laughter is the best. I had no idea this show was a thing but am, as always, down for a complete dissertation by FSN on it's relative terrible-ness. "PLL fever dream" is 100% accurate. ETA: There is no such thing as "too many Kit Kats."

Friendly Space Ninja: I dont know why WB is trying so hard to make sure nobody talks about a show cancelled almost 10 years ago. Also FSN: This is the most embarasing thing to ever air on television. Damn dog, you coming for their heads!

I was actually convinced that I never watched this but turns out that I probably did? Lol, the characters and some of the scenes feel really familiar but the experience of watching it was somehow wiped from my memory. The only thing I remember about this was that I was really pissed they wanted to broke up the only couple in PLL I was interested in.

Gave me Charmed early days vibes. The effects were just as trashy, but characters not nearly as likeable. I think they wanted it to be as big.

I get the feeling that Marlene King wanted to do Supernatural with characters of Pretty Little Liars but failed in her attempt.

If you want a show with supernatural mystery vibes with a cast/ensemble that actually have good chemistry and dyanamics, I'd recommend Nancy Drew on The CW. I feel like it actually achieves what this show wanted people to think it was.

The writers were expecting the "mysteries" and PLL hype to get them a second season. That's why so many plot points are introduced and dropped, i believe.

Oh my gosh, you got it back up! I missed it the first two times, so I'm so excited to see it!

Never watched this but here to do my job and boost the algorithm after seeing the community post because I discovered this channel recently and love it. It's as great as a kit kat

I remember being confused why this show was cancelled, but I guess I just watched it before I knew what a good TV show was

honestly I loved Ravenswood and would have loved more seasons, I liked getting more of a backstory of Caleb rather then him just being there when people need something hacking ... I like anything supernatural so I thought it was great

Atleast pretty little liars and ravenswood have a thing in common: plot holes 🕳