The wrong Death Star Trench?? It wasn't here!!! | Star Wars Hyperspace Database

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Have we been deceived this whole time? Was this in plain sight and we missed it? Check out where the right trench is on this episode of Hyperspace Database!
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@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Which version of the Death Star trench run was your favorite? N64 Rogue Squadron, GC Rogue Leader or Rebel Strike, Battlefront 1-2, let me know which one and why! I'll start, I grew up with the classic Rogue Squadron on the N64, so I gotta go with that one, for nostalgia's sake.
@gregorydahl
@gregorydahl Ай бұрын
Rogue leader . My rebel strike discs had a two player verion of rogue one . Just get a quad with fpv now .
@katarn999
@katarn999 2 жыл бұрын
As you say at 1:18 - that trench was huge and housed various hangars etc. That was always clear to me based on the scenes with the Millennium Falcon being forcibly docked/escaping... ;-)
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! To be perfectly honest, I never really thought about it, so even I learned something new researching this!
@antr7493
@antr7493 2 жыл бұрын
someone spotted that stupid ice cream maker a guy in Cloud City was carrying, Han's dice, and so many more obscure bits of the trilogy and we all missed this. I guess we were all having such a great time watching it it didn't matter. another nice one
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I love the ice cream maker guy! Yeah, there are soooo many silly little things in these movies and shows that are hilarious like that!
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
The Death Star Haynes Manual (legends book now) says the trenches were used for shuttles to travel to different sectors as using the turbolifts was a bit slow.. faster to get outside and fly a shuttle lol! Guess it kinda explains why trenches were built-in to the design in first place.. as vital to success and weakness as the exhaust port, but we don't see a novel like Catalyst devoted to the design flaws under Galen Erso and Krennic!!
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I never thought that was the trench since earlier in the movie I assumed the Millennium Falcon went in to the death star in that ring because of that outside shot, so I figured it was way too big, and that the trench from the battle was much smaller so I figured it was elsewhere, though I had no idea where.
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I believe there were ‘multiple’ trench runs: the equatorial to suppress TIE Fighter support, then a quick flight north to soften the defenses around one of six to eight exhaust ports, then the killing < BOOM! > . . . too late…
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Good point, that is quite possible. They DO cover a good portion of the surface criss-crossing before they dive into the trenches......
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 2 жыл бұрын
@@hyperspacedatabase, but honestly do believe they didn’t dive in just as _Wizard of Oz, The_ ‘s Tin Man did & hasn’t come up from the Marina Trench yet…
@jamesricker3997
@jamesricker3997 19 сағат бұрын
If the TIEs were doing a zone defense,the Death Star didn't have enough TIE Fighters. They couldn't cover every section. So they concentrated on the more important sections, the trench with an axillary exhaust wasn't considered important.
@kaiwang7630
@kaiwang7630 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I ever thought the trench was that horizontal line. It looks to big to be that exact trench
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it does!
@captin3149
@captin3149 Жыл бұрын
I knew that it wasn't the trench for a long time, but I don't remember where I got it from. I'm pretty sure I didn't figure it out myself, so I would have had to read it somewhere. (We're talking twenty or more years ago, before internet sources were very big, maybe the novelization?)
@shoreknightseer3152
@shoreknightseer3152 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably early 90's when I figured it out. I think it was an old Star Wars technical journal that clued me in, if I remember correctly.
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it in one of the cross sections books after I saw a video about it!
@chrisc1140
@chrisc1140 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was dumb how the equatorial trench was so much wider, and didn't have the obvious end that was by the exhaust port, but I always just assumed it was simply an inconsistency in the movie. An oversight like the position of the superlaser.
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
3:20 the Torpedoe Sphere weapon had the focus oval for firing within the equator too.. guess they wanted to recycle the idea!?
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
That is entirely possible!
@jonathanswift2251
@jonathanswift2251 Жыл бұрын
I've never thought it was the same trench. The trench along the "equator" of the Death Star is MUCH Much wider than the trench we see at the end of the film. It is also, cleaner, smoother more streamlined. Since the Death Star is about 100 miles in diameter, I'd say that "equatorial" trench is a little over a mile in diameter. So the final battle would look a lot different, as the perspective of the boundaries of the trench would reflect a much wider perspective. The trench we see of the final battle can't be more than maybe150-200 feet in diameter. Maybe. And it is not smooth or streamlined at all. It is full of much detailed machinery, a hodgepodge of pipes, tubes, modules, etc. P.S. I always believed it was just north or south of the equatorial trench, running parallelly, horizontally with it.
@ethansutphin9988
@ethansutphin9988 2 жыл бұрын
Nope!! I always thought it was the middle!
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
What a crazy world we live in! Lol!
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
Ive known this for years, it's in the Death Star Haynes Manual I think.. towards the north pole area.. the south pole area was for refueling.. plus it says the fighters are going to cut across the axis to draw the fire, which to me meant on angle away from vertical axis which is either above or below equator.. I saw A New Hope when I was a kid on cinema way back and never thought it was the equator area that was clearly for docking.. Plus it seemed to me that if the torpedoes hit then the shock travelled down which in my mind meant the target the port had to be higher ie north area.. I didnt think back then about downward just meaning into centre from any surface lol.. I'm not sure as I don't have it anymore but old annual after the 1977 film had comic of the movie and showed trench run why it didn't I think specify where it was defo not the equator, I think the comic made the equator just a series of flat rectangles tor docking, it was simplified/stylized so was no room for a trench run there.. the artwork from back then might be still in print in an omnibus or online somewhere... I remember it ended with a description of how bright the explosion of the death star was, it was the brightest point in this corner of the cosmos etc.. and as for the fate of our heroes it said only the spacewinds knew!! It was pretty poetic!!
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@cullen_mathews9174
@cullen_mathews9174 11 ай бұрын
Yep knew all along. Favorite Trench run is Star Wars Rogue Squardron for GameCube. I hate the battlefront 2 version. Its a combination of death star I & II. Whether the level designers decided to kill two birds with one stone and say hey lets give them both the Death Star I & II at the same time, or because of copyright claims or just pure laziness, we'll never know.
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, what a combo!
@DanBen07
@DanBen07 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@TheCultDc2
@TheCultDc2 2 жыл бұрын
I will tell you a weird story. I always thought it was in the upper part of death star. But then, for some reason, i changed my opinion to wrong one, believing its the equator entrance trench. Now im sure i was right. Probably the only time when i was right, but then i changed my opinion and became wrong.
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
I tell ya, the way the film was shot could easily point people the wrong way!
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I have a similar question about where the officers' docking bay was on the Star Destroyer, ie like one Cap Needa launched from..? And near to that where the garbage chute was that the Falcon hides amongst!? They're neither on the blueprints in any books.. they only show the 2 main lower hangars!! There's confusion there..tho in one shot do see a lower bay under command tower where bridge is!? 🤔😊
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
I don't recall seeing Needa launch from anything near the tower.
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish u know, yr right my mistake!! But I defo remember what looked like a launch bay open and lit under command tower.. lol! 😊 I think can see it in TESB right after part with rebels saying need to evacuate..the first shot of the imperial fleet with imperial march going 😊
@perfect7357
@perfect7357 Жыл бұрын
Always knew that.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
I think I knew that from the start Just from watching the trailer.
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
It seems pretty obvious when pointed out, for sure.
@earlware4322
@earlware4322 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I never thought too hard about it. I had always just assumed that the trench run had to be one of the smaller trenches running away from the equatorial one as that is clearly shown to be way too huge and had multiple hangers for ships leaving and entering the station.
@LEGOkingJETTT
@LEGOkingJETTT 2 жыл бұрын
AHHAAAAAAA. Very informative. =D
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase 2 жыл бұрын
Why thank you! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
@scottm5425
@scottm5425 Ай бұрын
Why does it even have trenches?? seems a pointless complication.
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase Ай бұрын
Lol, right!? The Star Wars wiki says that the trenches "acted as directional markers for Starfighter and shuttle pilots." Interesting design choice for sure.
@ahsenkhan5386
@ahsenkhan5386 5 ай бұрын
knew this since I wa 13
@plejra
@plejra Жыл бұрын
How about just accept that movie is imperfect and contains lots of errors and mistakes and we shouldn't make up another weird hypothesis?
@hyperspacedatabase
@hyperspacedatabase Жыл бұрын
This isn't a hypothesis, it came directly from ILM designers.
@plejra
@plejra Жыл бұрын
@@hyperspacedatabase yeah you're right.
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