The Yoden Mod has a dreadnought sized GR-75 with a super laser. Yep. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLKIrLym1dK8fXU.html

The next time the SSD Executor tries to dock with the DS2, it should probably request clearance first.

I honestly never thought about this, but it makes sense. Honestly it would be strange if it didn't carry them.

See, the Empire included that feature so they could claim the tax write off for also being a transport. Smart credits makes credits.

It's call a space station for a reason. The big death laser is just a bonus. Honestly it makes a great emergency capital in case Corruscant falls.

While it was never mentioned in the movies, why wouldn't it? It's a station, so naturally, it should be able to dock all kinds of ships, and it's certainly big enough. AT MINIMUM, id expect it to be able to supply and repair it's escort fleet.

I kinda always thought when the Devastator first approached the Death Star in ANH that it was docking. Looks like this was the case.

Imagine, They actually put that obscure background detail there just so somebody could pick it up and realize...

I always assumed that when that Imperial officer was telling Tarkin that his ship was standing by to evacuate at Yavin, he was referring to a Star Destroyer, which I further assumed was docked within the Death Star.

When the game Force Unleashed was lunch one picture used as art conceptual for the game was a picture of a Star Destroyer under construction inside a hangar of the Death Star.

Oh my goodness, you have a great eye! 👍 In my own head canon the Death Star could do that, but I would have never recognized that scene if it wasn’t pointed out.

Speaking of the Tarkin Doctrine and wanting a Death Star in every sector, I remember the first Star Wars Infinities comic series where it showed dozens of "Justice Stars" orbiting Coruscant for a celebration.

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I've always thought that the Death Star(s) had some sort of capital-ship docking capability. After all, neither of them had actual sublight engines, only a hyperdrive. So I always thought they would get tugged/pushed into position by a compliment of ISDs. The orientation of the one in that shot from Rogue One (i.e - engines away from the station), would definitely support this idea. Similarly, I always thought the Stars had at least some sort of production capability, for both starfighters and larger ships.

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Now that I think about it, it so is possible and probably good and compulsory.

I love the idea of carrying and deploying star destroyers, there is plenty of room. Even for the executor. Great video!

The Death Star is one thick boi if that's the case.

Well you have to consider the death star wasn't ever really "operational" it was always basically in what the navy would call "shakedown cruise" if you had one that was in service for say a decade or more I'm sure having a ship yard and a multitude of features that was never dreamed of in film would come to be.

1: If capital ships can make hyperspace jumps with fighters docked in their hangars, the Death Star should certainly be capable of the same even with Star Destroyers. 2: I don't feel that "indirect kills" should count for a pilot's total. Isn't taking down a Death Star enough of an achievement? :D 3: I could see the Death Star's massive hangars being able to repair and resupply capital ships, but building a whole vessel from scratch is probably outside the scope of the station. I'd actually be curious to know how self-sufficient the Death Star was intended to be. The amount of materials and components needed just to maintain the thing has to be absolutely staggering.

No star destroyers at Yavin is one of those Fridge Logic things you don't think of until well after you watched the movie. It would have made sense for the Death Star to carry ISDs and deploy them to intercept rebel ships trying to escape Yavin... which, strangely, they didn't try to do. In real life, the explanation likely is that nobody thought of it, and they wouldn't have had the FX budget anyway. The best in-universe explanation that I can come up with is that the newly completed Death Star had yet to receive its full complement of ISDs, and the ones it did have were dispatched to Dantooine to deal with Princess Leia's fictional base.

If you played Empire At War (The original, not FoC) You'd see it has a fleet of Star Destroyers in that game

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Notification squad reporting in. I always assumed it could carry ISD’s. It wouldn’t make sense if it couldn’t.

Honestly, this was my headcanon long before I actually knew it could carry and service ISDs. It just makes so much sense from a logistical standpoint. It's essentially a massive super-dreadnought that was also, in its own right, a military ecumenopolis. It'd be stupid to not have at least a couple docking ports for your main battleships.

I think you hit a key point about seeing PART of a star destroyer. My belief is that it was also used to house PARTS of a star destroyer so it was a portable maintenance station too.

I never thought about this, and now I can't stop

Imagine if there was a whole fleet of SDs and support ships docked inside, and deployed during the fourth movie. I don't think even Luke could've gotten through that...

Eck, I was listening to the video while walking around my room and doing stuff, and I look out my room, I see a full moon, and my heart skipped a beat before I realized what I was truly looking at.

I always thought of something like this A massive vessel that could carry star destroyers

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Doesn't that contradict the rivalry between the advocators of a strong fleet and the advocators of the Death Star?

don't forget the the Comic Book Visionaris, which gave us also the image of the Death Star Drydock, housing not only several ISDs, but also an Exekutor SSD. And i always thought that the ISD in ANH would be docked, given that angle it approached the Death Star

This is really cool, just awesome how these new things are discoverd even after 3 years!

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Love that SWTOR intro going in the background @2:42! Nice Ecks...👍

Still going. Cylons vs UNSC. Also just Halo content in general.

#AskEck This question ties in with the one from this episode. If Eta-2 starfighters are only piloted by jedi and not clones, why does a standard Venator carry around 192 of them, when they could just use about 10 Eta-2 and fill the space with ARC-170 or V-wings?

I haven't seen your other channel but from the reference in this video I like the idea. It's more engaging. Kudos muchacho

I mean the star destroyer docking bay is where they build it, a star destroyer is the capital of the fleet. It is used as a vehicle, but also used as an office. The death star is more of a home however the star destroyer stays in space, it moves as the fleet moves, the tie fighters are made for transport but a star destroyer is used more as a captain.

That’s so cool! I’d never even considered that it could carry ISD’s but it makes perfect sense!

A very long time ago, even before the Prequels, there was talk about the unfinished part of the Death Star 2 was hangers for the Imperial fleet. That's why it was fully operational and yet incomplete. But that was a nice catch from Rogue One.

Back from liking some japanese stuff ( not the extremley popular ones like anime and manga) and man I forgot how joyful and calming your intro was, and how much I loved your vids.

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In The Force Unleashed videogame, the final stage takes place in the unfinished Death Star 1. As you walk from the entrance of one the hangars towards the inner sections, you can see plenty of star destroyers docked inside the station. They could be taking part in the construction process, or they could be actually stationed there.

Wow I just saw this today when I searched for "drydock star wars" Great you made a video about it!

Makes sense. Iserlohrn Fortress from Legend of Galactic Heroes is of similar size and power to DS, though not mobile. It’s essentially a full service naval base capable of servicing its organic defense fleet.

I don't know if you made a video on it #AskEck how did both the Jedi and Sith originate? How did they get their ideals and philosophies

Huh, I never noticed that scene in Rogue One. That makes a lot of sense actually.

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I've never noticed that Star Destroyer docked with the Death Star in Rogue One, thanks for pointing that out! That's awesome!

I love your outro and above all the best videos

It was a mobile shipyard and naval base. It could support a fleet of Star Destroyers allowing the Death Star to dominate a sector without showing its self

I honestly did notice this myself, but I had to rewatch it several times just to make sure I wasn't seeing things. I was wondering when one of my star wars channels was going to bring this up. Good eye sir!

Honestly, it is actually explains why there was no fleet at Yavin. They were docked within the Death Star and Tarkin was too arrogant to deploy them

I always thought the sheer scale of the Death Star was a bit hard to swallow. A 120-km sphere would have an absolutely massive volume and mass, far more than would be required for housing a planet-killing weapon. Even cutting it down to 60km would still be utterly gargantuan, and I don't think even a mobile shipyard would be enough to justify that kind of size.

Was pretty strongly implied in A New Hope too, you see the ISD flying right towards it not angling off to make orbit or anything.

If you look at the headsets you see jedi wearing when piloting both kinds of Jedi starfighter they wrap around the forehead. I remember reading somewhere that this was supposed to be an experimental neural interface that jedi were able to make work because they were force sensitive while "normal" pilots usually weren't. This allowed for much quicker reactions and more complex maneuvers than manual fighter controls would otherwise permit.

Makes sense actually, "Battlesstation", not much of one if it's really just their verses version to an extremely odd an large shaped A-10 Warthog, an built around the main gun. A space station of THAT size should I'd imagine also be able to not only house huge ships like Star Destroyers but launch, fit, repair and perhaps even make them.. Thatd be disheartening to even a large Vong fleet.. moving in to attack the Death Star which only looks fairly unprotected and then suddenly parts open up an an Armada of large SDs sail out accompanied by swarms of TIEs and support ships of every type and size.. Thatd be pretty much EVERY other SW factions Worst nightmare case scenario. I believe Vong agents even hinted as much. An you had to know such scenarios kept Rebel Leadership awake at night for years

That’s...brilliant honestly. A space station with hangars for Star Destroyers and a super weapon!

Interesting. And honestly all of this would make sense. The Death stars were such massive bases that like Eck says, giving them docking/repair bays big enough for Star Destroyers makes sense. Besides, it would probably end up saving money and it's not like this wasn't already a massive drain on the economy. Might as well make the totally indestructible planet killing bases carry the defense fleet. Heck, if the Tarkin doctrine worked then they could keep the smaller ships docked there almost permanently and save money there as well as no one would dare oppose the Empire.

Thank you, EckhartsLadder.

It’s so funny, I was just watching rogue one and that scene had brought me to this video... I didn’t notice the star destroyer but it brought the question to my mind

So the Death Star does have some use, at least.

When I was a kid, you know every kid goes utterly insane with their creations? I used to imagine a death star so insanely big it would have a ring of super destroyers docked all around it

I remember the old book that said that the death star didn’t just have big star destroyer hangers, it’s actually a dry dock, yup they are manufacturing star destroyers in there as well

Space battleship Yamato vs death star.

when the death star goes into hyperspace all support ships including many star destroyers dock within the death stars shell therefore saving fuel and also allowing for huge assault on any target .repairs and arming can take place during transit and also allowing crews some rest and relaxation time with friends and family who lived and worked full time on the death star .

Awesome find. Thanks for the video.

The scene of the Death Star trench when Krennic departs, clearly does show a docked Imperial Star Destroyer. However, after reading all the technical companions and guides, it stated nothing larger than a Strike Cruiser was carried. Food for thought.

In the expansion of Empire at War, The Second Death Star gave you a free Star Destroyer every time you entered battle

Thank you! I asked this of several sw youtubers a while back and no one had an answer.

This explains why there were no ISDs at the assault on the first Death Star

Yeah, it does make sense. I thought there was an old concept art of showing this exact feature way before canon outright confirms it but it's been wayyyy long since I saw that...unless that was all in my head.

I agree, it would have made sense to have a shipyard built into the death star, or at the very least, just hangers for a support fleet

Honestly for a station as big as the Death Star I think ISD sized docks would be necessary. Even if it didn’t have an escort fleet I think you’d need them just for the operation of the station. I mean think about how much stuff probably has to go in and out of the station every single day. Trying to move all those materials and assets exclusively with small transports would be a logistical nightmare. In addition to a defensive fleet around the station there probably is an enormous fleet of cargo carriers constantly coming and going around the clock. Even with all the hangars we see on the station I’d imagine that most ships would be under a lot of pressure to move their cargo as quickly as possible and undock for the next ship to come in. Thinking about it now getting the station ready for hyperspace would be quite the involved and disruptive process. You’d have to communicate with hundreds of ships. Once a hyperspace route was chosen you’d have to clear out every ship from the station’s path. You’d have to reroute or reschedule who knows how many arrivals and departures. Just getting the station ready for hyperspace would probably take at least a few hours. And the fact that Darth Vader can dock his ISD whenever he wants for however long he wants is just another demonstration of how much authority he commands.

I had never thought of it before reading lost stars, but when I did, I did make the correct assumption that they docked to an internal bay.

That actually makes sense especially for the Tarkin Doctrine.

I imagine that a Death Star full of Star Destroyers was part of Plapatine's ultimate plan, but much like replacing every TIE Fighter with TIE Interceptors is something that was never fully realized as most of those Star Destroyers were always needed elsewhere so only a few were ever docked at a time. Still, if Palpatine had won at Endor, I imagine your idea of a Death Star full of Star Destroyers in every sector would be his endgame plan. I wonder how Thrawn would feel about the project then.

The empires lack of widespread implementation of dedicated flak frigates is one of their most glaring oversights. Compared to the cost of an Imp class adding a pair of raiders for CIWS duty would have paid in dividends far beyond the expenses of their operation.

My assumption would be that the Death Star serves primarily as a massive resupply depot for its Star Destroyers, allowing them to refuel and resupply, maybe even change out crews, so that they can operate nearly indefinitely alongside it. There doesn't seem to be much point in actually storing a fleet inside it - it's slower and more cumbersome than any capital ship, and they can't do anything useful until they undock. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if its facilities extended to repair and refitting drydocks, though. Possibly shipbuilding, but that feels like a stretch.

A space station of that size would probably require massive ships to ferry supplies and crew back and forth. You would probably want to carry around several large transport ships in case you have need of them for supplies, to transfer troops, to aid in a large scale evacuation from the Death Star or to the Death Star. It wouldn't be a large stretch to design into the Death Start the ability to provide hangars and docking for Star Destroyer sized ships.

One sharp eye you got there Eck! 👁️👍

If the rebellion was able to capture a Star destroyer they could fill it with some heavy/high explosive and possibly get an imperial traitor to get the ship into the Death Star and have it explode.

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If you search for "Death Star Drydock" there is an early artwork with docked Star Destroyers and even a Super Star Destroyer inside the Death Star . I was always fascinated of this Idea :-)

There is actually a level on the PSP version of the force unleash when you first board the DS and you can see ISDs docked with the station’s internal superstructure as you are advancing through the external walkways. As for the station’s ability to carry a fleet inside, I think it’s actually very possible that the DS could at the very least carry and support an escort fleet if not a larger battle group given its sheer size. If so it elevates the strategic value and impact of the DS that’s stops been just a planet killer and also becomes a gigantic assault platform.

When he asked if it counted as extra star destroyer kills for Luke if they were docked in the first death star, the only thing that came to mind was LOTR, "That still only counts as one!" Lol

Makes perfect sense! It is a moon-sized space station/super weapon after all.

Yes, DS1 has shipyard capabilities but its not a dedicated shipyard, that job is left to orbital shipyard with the logistical infrastructure to supply it. Very likely the DS will do refits and resupply since its intended to be a mobile battle station and the capital ship docks hold its defense fleet ready to launch

It's supposed to be a "station" so like Space Dock in Star Trek I see it making sense for refit/resupply/shore leave for Star ships. Something so big would make sense to be the hub of the large battle fleet that would be needed to escort it.

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Very Large Hangers on the death star make sense. For a station that size, the amount of supplies required would be massive. So very large cargo ships would need somewhere to dock and offload bulk cargo efficiently and an umbilical or cargo transfer by tug would be slower than direct offloading.

You forgot to mention the other starfighter commonly called the Jedi Starfighter, the Aethersprite (the one used by Obi-wan in the duel with Jango Fett, and the one Plo Koon died in), which did have shields.

i think during Yavin 4, the issue could have been that Tarkin went there without recalling any active ships, because he was overcofident so it would not have added to lukes kill board

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Whenever I saw Vader's Star Destroyer approaching the Death Star it flies towards the equatorial trench, so I always assumed it docked there, and that Star Destroyers could dock there. As to the rest, I say, why not? Maintenance, transfer of goods and personnel, shipyards, all makes sense.

There was a book that came out before Disney acquired Lucasfilm which showed that the Death Star COULD indeed take Star Destroyers into it's hull. The book Death Star and the essential guide to starships and stations I do believe.