The Wrong Time Traveler - X-Men: Days of Future Past (Part 1)

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While X-Men: Days of Future Past was a critical and financial success, something about it never sat quite right with me. The balance between the past and future timelines felt off. In this video, I get to the bottom of why the travel didn't work and see if something can be done to tell a more successful story.
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@TD-zs2nc
@TD-zs2nc 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, referencing an absurd continuity and then ignoring it when it's convenient probably makes the X-Men franchise the most faithful comic adaptation ever.
@Xjr555kid
@Xjr555kid 4 жыл бұрын
I'm annoyed by how true that is
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. That’s an outright lie. This franchise was the most unfaithful comic adaptation ever. Try again.
@pretendtheresaname9213
@pretendtheresaname9213 3 жыл бұрын
@@trealsteve Learn to read sir. He wrote comic adaptation, not Days of Future Past, as in: comics on a long-term have no continuity and so this movie ignoring the lack of continuity in X-Men movies is the most faithful thing to comics in general.
@damyr55
@damyr55 3 жыл бұрын
@@trealsteve You COMPLETELY missed the point
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@damyr55 Can’t miss something that’s not there or invalid.
@huntcd2012
@huntcd2012 4 жыл бұрын
“What’s wrong with Wolverine.” He’s not the only important member of the team, but the franchise sure likes to act like he is.
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously the most important x-men character was MORPH! The only one that wolverine truly loved
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
@@russellharrell2747 Whoa, really...?????? I stopped reading at 14...
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
@@russellharrell2747 This channel ROCKS...!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the first movies were self-aware, and Magneto would always tell Logan "always thinking is everything about you".
@enzoenc
@enzoenc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not over how Kitty Pryde was sidelined in her own story. And Ellen Page can carry a movie too!
@huntcd2012
@huntcd2012 4 жыл бұрын
What’s funnier is that even after Wolverine was removed from play, they just replaced him with another spotlight stealing squad. In this case it was Mystique in Apocalypse followed by Charles and Magneto in Dark Phoenix. First Class is the only proper ensemble movie in this series.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
huntcd2012 yeah she had no reason to be there
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
They should have followed director of first-class plans for this trilogy but Fox was just too impatient and wanted to do the days of past storyline because it sound more interesting than what he could come up with next.
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 very true
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
DC marvel Fanboy thanks
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 your welcome
@sandordugalin8951
@sandordugalin8951 4 жыл бұрын
"Have Storm use Wolverine as a lightning rod..." Logan: "HOW ABOUT NO, NANDO."
@gridlo
@gridlo 4 жыл бұрын
Wolverine was never meant to be a leading man, nor should he be. He's an impact character, like Bluto in Animal House. A short, surly wild man. (not a tall dark and handsome romantic lead) He comes in, makes a big impression then leaves. The longer a character like that hangs around, the less interesting they become. Part of the appeal of such a character is their mystery. Bluto/Logan shouldn't be the POV character. That should be someone normal and relate able. (in the comics or cartoon it was someone like Jubilee or Kitty Pryde.) Someone boring to ground and juxtapose all the craziness the X-Men bring.
@huntcd2012
@huntcd2012 4 жыл бұрын
This is basically what happens when you try to have a Lancer without a Leader.
@koifish835
@koifish835 4 жыл бұрын
@@1090Ideas I know they aren't exactly the same but considering how the MCU handled Captain America I'm optimistic they'll give us an interesting Cyclops when they finally bring in the X-Men. They already showed that kind of "play by the rules noble leader" character can work really well. I hope in general the MCU can give a lot of the less popular characters the spotlight and focus on the team dynamic rather than "Wolverine and his buddies."
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I LOVE X-Men: Evolution's Wolverine, since he's not the main focus, he's a supporting character with highlight episodes.
@bbrbbr-on2gd
@bbrbbr-on2gd 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe you don't have to pigeonhole these characters into specific archetypes, and allow them to naturally grow.
@JP-se5kf
@JP-se5kf 3 жыл бұрын
It should have been rouge who was the lead. In the first part of the first x-men they made us think it was her until they turned their attention to wolverine.
@cammyspammy7
@cammyspammy7 4 жыл бұрын
To me, I feel the exact same way except it's the other way around. I struggled to connect with the future stuff as they are mainly action scenes with only a couple of moments to develop the characters. And most of the fighters don't get any real dialogue like colossus and storm. Whereas I at least got some interesting scenes between characters in the 70s...it isn't perfect but that's just my 2 cents
@Dilmahkana
@Dilmahkana 4 жыл бұрын
The action stuff was awesome in the future, partly due to there not being much screen time in the future. It works for me. The past stuff is really cool too, for character stuff like you said. However, Logan doesn't do much outside of pep talks (which kinda cool, coming full circle as a character I guess?), and like in the video he doesn't effect the past characters going forward
@Doctor_Straing_Strange
@Doctor_Straing_Strange 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@davidbrickey8733
@davidbrickey8733 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't even REMEMBER anything that happens in the future section, other than that they have to stall for time long enough for the Past Cast to actually resolve the plot. It's hard to care about fight scenes when A: Nobody gets much characterization, B: Most of them weren't in the previous movie I watched, and C: Baked into the premise is the fact that it'll all get erased when the other plotline is resolved.
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidbrickey8733 facts
@charlespuruncajas9663
@charlespuruncajas9663 3 жыл бұрын
You guys need to see the Rogue Cut of DoFP, they even get a subplot of Magneto and Iceman infiltrating the X Mansion (now turned a research facility)
@orienday3430
@orienday3430 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still annoyed they kept on doing the 10 years time skip and didn't just go on directly from days of future past
@Beatofblues
@Beatofblues 4 жыл бұрын
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and they all look the same... still don't know why they did that
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 4 жыл бұрын
@@Beatofblues First Class pointed out that Mystique's shapeshifting abilities make her age slower than any normal person. Beast inherited her de-aging ability as a result of using her DNA to make a cure for himself which turned him into a blue-hairy monster. Charles's spinal serum had side effects like rapid aging and hair loss (it's why he already looks like Patrick Stewart in the beginning of X3 and the ending of X-men Origins: Wolverine). He stops taking the serum in Days of Future Past which helps him avoid the side effects and remain looking like James McAvoy in Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. As for Magneto, the comic books showed him using the earth's magnetic fields to regenerate his body. He may have altered his own aging process as a result of disrupting the magnetic fields in Apocalypse.
@orienday3430
@orienday3430 4 жыл бұрын
@@loudboy317 and then everyone decided to age 30 years in time for the 2000s
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 4 жыл бұрын
@@orienday3430 Everyone but Mystique.
@orienday3430
@orienday3430 4 жыл бұрын
@@loudboy317 yeah she just decided to change her face for no apparent reason
@azazelop5223
@azazelop5223 4 жыл бұрын
Wolverine is our short king.
@zaphodbeeblebrox655
@zaphodbeeblebrox655 4 жыл бұрын
@friggyk in the comics he was short
@TAJMofficial
@TAJMofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@friggyk Wolverine is their short king
@fengb1122
@fengb1122 4 жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same movie? Wolverine was intentionally the decoy protagonist: there to satisfy existing wolverine fanboys but mostly pointless to the main story. He doesn’t do anything because the story is really about Xavier, Magneto, and Mystique.
@Jellybob69
@Jellybob69 4 жыл бұрын
And no other character has a relationship with Magneto and Xavier like he does. If Kitty Pryde or anyone else was in his place it would make the interactions between them boring and uninteresting. DOFP is the only X-Men film to perfectly use Wolverine as the protagonist in my opinion.
@kongsied4279
@kongsied4279 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jellybob69 Facts
@antoniobrooks1113
@antoniobrooks1113 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jellybob69 how? kitty literally looked up to charles as a father figure and it would've been just as interesting to see a character we normally don't see in the spotlight take that role
@randomcharacter6501
@randomcharacter6501 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jellybob69 No other character has the relationship with them *in the movies*. Which is the problem and why it HAD to be Wolverine who goes back in time seven movies later. Singer's Xmen are basically Wolverine and Friends, where only Charles, Magneto, and Logan get any character development.
@Jellybob69
@Jellybob69 4 жыл бұрын
Random Character Snyder’s X-Men? Haha what?
@SuperMurray2009
@SuperMurray2009 4 жыл бұрын
You have not seen bad continuity until you have seen the Resident Evil Franchise.
@LeBlondeJames
@LeBlondeJames 4 жыл бұрын
Resident Evil movies were great. They were action packed zombie shooting Mila Jovovich guns galore. Sorry but I enjoyed them frivolously despite how far off they were. That being said, I've never played nor cared about the games.
@SuperMurray2009
@SuperMurray2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeBlondeJames Well I can't see how any human being can enjoy those movies without being utterly offended since the writer/director views you guys as idiots. And no they were not great. The first one is ok. The second one has horrible action but still can be sat through. After that it's kinda unbearable.
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
@Snehil Shrey don't be a boomer
@nickkowal619
@nickkowal619 4 жыл бұрын
"1 small change, I will change the entire plot by sending someone else back"...love it!
@Jingles6466
@Jingles6466 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, this is gonna be a hot take
@andreacarnes4602
@andreacarnes4602 4 жыл бұрын
Nando we need that second video TODAY, we are in quarantine with nothing to do. don't hold out on us.
@erianya
@erianya 4 жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe that Nando doesn’t have millions of subscribers. Criminally underrated.
@CrashAnnBurn
@CrashAnnBurn 4 жыл бұрын
You blue ballin sonuvabitch XD
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought about how we could've gotten Wolverine's iconic death from the DOFP comic in the movie. When they announced Quicksilver was gonna be in the movie, I thought he was gonna be the one to travel to the past, because he has super speed and it would make sense for him to go back and it would've been awesome! Quicksilver could've been the audience surrogate and seeing him meet the past-versions of Prof. X, Beast and Magneto, and fanboying over seeing them so young, and dropping tidbits about their future-selves would've made the movie 1000x better.
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 4 жыл бұрын
Plus seeing older Quicksilver would be dope.
@TheOther-Dude
@TheOther-Dude 4 жыл бұрын
Quicksilver get9his own kind of Flashpoint moment? That would be interesting
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Only problem is, Quicksilver is nowhere near as fast as The Flash to accomplish that feat. Even his “FOX-Men” OP version can’t run back in time. Should’ve been Bishop.
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 3 жыл бұрын
@@trealsteve It's a movie, they could've made it happen.
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesLawner More mistakes and OP’ing powers wouldn’t have fixed this garbage franchise with a character that wasn’t even a member of the X-Men. Should’ve been Bishop.
@benpriest9555
@benpriest9555 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite bit about this movie is the time travel bit. It doesn’t get bogged down in scientific explanation it’s just like, yeah she’s a mutant she can send people back in time.
@Threeli
@Threeli 4 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, they should have just done a straight sequel with a big ensemble cast and have them fight sentinels at the end
@jaisatpute7369
@jaisatpute7369 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple marvel fan...I see a nando video, i click
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
And I thumbs up your comment
@aulvinduergard9952
@aulvinduergard9952 4 жыл бұрын
@@NandovMovies And I thumbs up your thumbs up comment.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Jai Satpute what do you think about the 2015 fantastic four movie rewrite?
@jaisatpute7369
@jaisatpute7369 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 Eh not really a fan tbh, the movie was quite slow and came to an abrupt ending, I did like some of the costume design though
@jaisatpute7369
@jaisatpute7369 4 жыл бұрын
@@aulvinduergard9952 and i thumbs up your thumbs up nando's thumbs up my comment comment
@kevandre
@kevandre 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo I'm excited for Nando's Days of Future Past 2: Iceman Saves the Day Iceman's my favorite x-man
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Thompson I hope that he’s the one that goes back to the past
@luisangel1922
@luisangel1922 4 жыл бұрын
If the time travel rules of the movie are respected by Nando, it can only be someone that is old enough to be alive on the 70's, but if you ask me, if is not Iceman, I'll go for Idris El a Wanna be
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
The Mexican Falcon well even avengers endgame time traveling rules are very frustrating
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@luisangel1922 Bishop was the only logical person to use. But, we all know the “FOX-Men” franchise is allergic to that...
@jubjub7101
@jubjub7101 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first Nando movie I don’t agree with 🤯
@NONstopNINJA5
@NONstopNINJA5 4 жыл бұрын
Same! His first bad take I think 🤔
@MorganEdgy
@MorganEdgy 3 жыл бұрын
"One small change" - replaces the main character
@blipmachine
@blipmachine 4 жыл бұрын
First time disagreeing with Nando. Days of future past was perfection!
@NONstopNINJA5
@NONstopNINJA5 4 жыл бұрын
Same! Easily the best xmen movie and I normally find myself agreeing with nando but not today I guess. I wonder who he wants sending back? Got to be Prof X right??
@MilkyWayGrump
@MilkyWayGrump 4 жыл бұрын
> We'll talk about Storm later > Basically doesn't talk about Storm for the rest of the video except in passing ... HMM I WONDER WHO IT'S GONNA BE
@antoniobrooks1113
@antoniobrooks1113 4 жыл бұрын
what was there to talk about? the character has always been wasted
@MilkyWayGrump
@MilkyWayGrump 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniobrooks1113 I mean fair, but my point was that it makes the "cliffhanger ending" a tad obvious.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion and I also have a problem with Wolverine in the x-men movies (in fact, I even hope that, once MCU introduce the mutants, they have the x-men without wolverine in the first movie, saving Logan for a sequel), HOWEVER, in the case of DOFP I think having Logan wasb't that of a problem compare to the other movies for 2 reasons : Reason 1) It helps progress the story more efficiently. If the time traveler was any other mutant like Kitty or Bishop, then FOX would need to devote some of the movie to establish develop the character, which could take away from the main focus that is the DOFP which is Xavier, Magneto and Mystique story. By changing and going with already establish character like Wolverine, who, for better or for worse, has gotten more development than anyone else in the franchise it free more time for the story to focus on Xavier and Magneto and their attempt to stop Mystique from killing Trask. Reason 2) It helps developted the relation between Wolverine and Xavier, since, unlike the previous movies in which Xavier was the wiser mentor while Wolverine was the impulsive and "act by instict" hero, in DOFP the roles reverse, with Logan now being the one who guides the young and broken Xavier, in the same way Xavier did for him (This plot continues even futher in Logan).
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 3 жыл бұрын
@Osman Yousif That's the main problem with Fox x-men. They were not X-men movies they were either Wolverine and their friends movies or Jennifer Lawrence and their friends movies, not treating the heroes as team or giving any character a personality nor a development. I hope that, when the mutant are introduced in the MCU, Kevin Feige and whoever direct the x-men movies give the characters the proper development, showing us a Cyclops who evolve in his role as the leader of the x-men, a Jean Grey who goes from a innocent kind girl to one the most selfless members able to sacrifice her own life to save others, a Angel who starts as warn and noble guy who lose his wings and is transform into the vengeful Archangel becoming a tragic and sympathetic character and so on.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 3 жыл бұрын
@Osman Yousif I already did and even suggest some pitch for how the mutants could be introduced and portrayed in the upcoming mcu movies. I even add some of their casting choices to my fan cast
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Bishop made the most sense out of everyone. They also could’ve added Trever Fitzroy, whose actual power is time travel to those “Random Mutants” they just threw in the film just to say they used some other X-Men. Lol.
@Wmei64
@Wmei64 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says. This will ALWAYS be my favourite x-men movie and x-men story overall
@tomlinson1710
@tomlinson1710 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@GalatraicMinds
@GalatraicMinds 4 жыл бұрын
The Cliff hanger is killing me lol
@ScottKorin
@ScottKorin 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the whole Stryker/Mystique thing is one small continuity issue in a SEA of continuity issues with these movies. I mean, how can you explain Trask changing into a white "little person" when he was a big beefy black dude in the first X-Men? Why doesn't anybody else age, except Emma Frost who, apparently, ages backwards? Why is Jean showing Phoenix powers at the end of Apocalypse if she doesn't get them until Dark Phoenix? That's just a few!
@mylessmith8059
@mylessmith8059 4 жыл бұрын
You say that the Trasks and the Emma’s are two different people...duh
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
@@mylessmith8059 Trask I can buy, Emma though?
@TheIronMask1954
@TheIronMask1954 4 жыл бұрын
Wai-wai-wai...did this mad lad just say mystique has a chance to beat wolverine but Gambit doesn't?....Shut it down, Nando
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 4 жыл бұрын
Gambit destroyed to he whole world at one point!..he's the best
@zenquantum1246
@zenquantum1246 4 жыл бұрын
DoFP isn’t bad. For me, It’s one of the highlights in the series because it feel like more of an ensemble. It would’ve been more interesting to go forward with the future cast from there or explore an alternate timeline with Mystique derailing Wolverine for her own purposes. My recommendation for watching the series is: 1. X-Men 2. First Class 3. X2: X-Men United 4. Days of Futures Past (it works in continuity if you can overlook one flashback) 5. (Optional) Deadpool 1 & 2 6. Logan
@brycelennon9255
@brycelennon9255 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be cool if they mentioned at the beginning of DOFP, that a team member was sent to the past already. A few things changed, but he failed. This is their last hope. Once Logan makes it to the X-Mansion in the 70s, he still fights Beast. Then, walking down the stairs with Charles, we see Havok (Replace his character with Banshee in Vietnam). Havok and Logan smile at each other. In a separate scene Havok and Logan catch up. We learn that Havok was the team member sent to the past originally in the 60s, but failed at stopping Mystique in the 70s (His entire body was sent to the past, rather than conscious). Unfortunately, his device broke, trapping him in the past. This would prove that he is actually the time displaced, younger brother of Cyclops, rather than the older one. During the fight scene with the sentinels, Havok gets killed. That would have more of an impact than his weak death in Apocalypse.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 4 жыл бұрын
So, you just want to fix the Summer brotherhood problem?!
@thriftedjumper8767
@thriftedjumper8767 3 жыл бұрын
This video about one of my favourite movies came out on my birthday last year. how funky.
@Omega_Orion
@Omega_Orion 4 жыл бұрын
4:10 Which mutant you ask? (Answer cut) We'll get to that (Hold the shot) But first let's talk about Wolverine (Wolverine becomes center of shot, no cut) I swear if you are indeed sending Storm to the past, this is the most brilliant answer cut of all time, and I cannot imagine how you came up with this scripting/scene choice
@promqueenkiller
@promqueenkiller 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. Looking forward to seeing if it's Storm.
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Bishop.
@danieldosso2455
@danieldosso2455 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they just wanted to capitalize on Hugh Jacked-man's popularity
@pierce8878
@pierce8878 4 жыл бұрын
I really loved that it was Logan who went back in time personally. It was cool seeing him having to use something that he never really uses to win battles: his brain. Seeing him having to act as a mentor to Charles was really fresh and enduring to me. To be fair, if it were someone else travelling back in time instead, it wouldn't nearly be as entertaining. Logan interacting with the younger versions of the characters were the best parts of the movie. with him and Beast being a standout moment.
@assassinpredator1
@assassinpredator1 4 жыл бұрын
Its like you didnt even watch the movie They explicitly say that it HAS to be wolverine cause hes the only one alive in the 70s that can complete the mission, they dont physically send your body back they send your consciousness back into your past body, so if youre about to say it should have been iceman or storm youre wrong cause they were even born yet in the 70s, therefore they have no physical body to send the consciousness back into Also im pretty sure they mention that its extremely painful and rips your brain apart which is also why it has to be wolverine cause he can heal his brain fastee than its being ripped apart
@arthurbriand2175
@arthurbriand2175 4 жыл бұрын
Also that is a scenarist excuse for giving top billing to Hugh Jackman. You do realise these rules are made up and not grounded by anything right? That when you create a story you can rewrite rules as long as there is an inner coherence and logic to them. The rules you just mentionned are just excuses for not letting Xavier back into the past. Although I do agree with you that Nando should keep to the comic rules and only do time travel in a younger body, that still leaves Magneto, Xavier, McCoy, Quicksilver. Or maybe he wants to introduce a young storm but that would be a stretch.
@danieldishon688
@danieldishon688 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing, if you don't send Wolverine back, you can't have the moment where the guy with all the background the movies have built Wolverine up with ends up in the alternate happy future where Jean Grey and Scott are alive and he's a history teacher. It was like a great end Back to the Future moment that wouldn't have as well with any other character from the original trilogy of movies. Also the only other character the original movies kind of got us invested in was Rouge but the way they set their time travel rules up, she might not of been born yet to quantum leap into her younger body yet.
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary. Bishop was the only logical choice and they blew it just like they blew it with every other X-Man not named Wolverine.
@danieldishon688
@danieldishon688 3 жыл бұрын
@@trealsteve I'm not sure you understood the nature of my point. What's "logical" and "necessary" in a plot point cause and effect since is not the same as what's "necessary" from a cinamatic movie making and story telling perspective. No one had EVER seen Bishop before this film. The audience would have little involvement investment in him and the changes he sees caused in the timeline at the end of the film because the history of the past 4 or 5 films are not HIS past history. They were ours the audience past experience, and Wolverine experienced all those films with us on screen. Wolvierne is the only person who could justifiably react to all the great timeline retcons as an audience proxy. Yeah you could fit Bishop into this story logically but the emotional pay off would never be the same. It almost wouldn't be worth bothering to bring back the original cast for this new film at all if it was going to be about Bishop.
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 11 ай бұрын
@@danieldishon688 🧢
@danieldishon688
@danieldishon688 11 ай бұрын
@@trealsteve you came back 2 years later to show me a blue hat sticker?
@_Kamahl_
@_Kamahl_ 4 жыл бұрын
All your theories are better! I LOVED YOUR APOCALYPSE VIDEO AND THOR THE DARK WORLD!
@John73John
@John73John 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Honest Trailer for DOFP said it best: "In a world full of other cool X-Men... meet Wolverine for the 7th f***ing time!"
@ScottieSobel
@ScottieSobel 4 жыл бұрын
Aw man, you don’t have to end on a cliff hanger, you know we are going to watch it regardless.
@Vapouriste
@Vapouriste 4 жыл бұрын
The way this video is set up is cheap, I'll be honest
@kellie8969
@kellie8969 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree that Wolverine shouldn’t have been sent back in the past. I believe that it worked because Wolverine is the protagonist, but not the focus. Wolverine is the character we have followed so far, so it makes sense to follow him through the movie as well. He is our perspective character we have had for 5 movies (for better or for worst) so we should stay with him. I think the characters in first class should have been in the movie as well. We can see new relations created, but those characters can get killed off on-screen. The movie happens all around him. The other characters in DoFP are the characters are the focus. We just get to see these new versions of these characters through Wolverine.
@kellie8969
@kellie8969 4 жыл бұрын
Failingpepper 11 As a massive Wolverine fan, I agree. Wolverine shouldn’t be the main character of a major X-men story. But he was already built up as the main character in the movies
@kellie8969
@kellie8969 4 жыл бұрын
Failingpepper 11 First class was a sort of reboot to the franchise, so it doesn’t apply. Days of future past was meant to combine the reboot and originals, so it makes sense he would be the protagonist. Apocalypse and Phoenix takes place before Wolverine joined the x-men, so it doesn’t apply
@Emohawk707
@Emohawk707 4 жыл бұрын
For me, X Men Days of Future Past is awesome, I love it the most out of all the X Men movies... I think for me it’s Days of Future Past, X2, First Class, X1 then all the rest (not including Deadpool)
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 4 жыл бұрын
Logan > X-2 > DoFP > First Class > DP1/X-1 > the rest
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
🤮
@jeremy4ags
@jeremy4ags Жыл бұрын
one thing about the "time travel" was that they didn't send back his body, they just sent back his conciousness to himself in the past. So first, you needed a mutant that existed in the 70s, thats also in the future. OR you'll need a different time travel mechanic which would also work
@KavonNiknafs1708
@KavonNiknafs1708 4 жыл бұрын
What is with all the two parters from everyone! I just want to watch a complete video!
@huntcd2012
@huntcd2012 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, for some people, KZfaq is a business, so the more videos they release, the more money the get from the views associated with them.
@Littlemonks214
@Littlemonks214 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Hugh's Wolverine and RDJ's Iron Man are kinda similar in the public eye. Both aren't the leader of their respective but the movies, and by proxy the audience, see them as the best superhero in their respective universe and when they die, everyone idolizes them as a legend. Oh and both of them take on a younger protege, sidekick, son/daughter character which basically them but younger.
@WebbedManiac
@WebbedManiac 4 жыл бұрын
In the comics, Iron Man is the benefactor of the Avengers. He is also one of the founding members of the team, Cap isn't. He was one of the main members of the Avengers way before the movies came out. It makes sense for Iron Man to be in a leadership position because he's someone that the other leader, Captain America, can have disagreements with. It's kinda similar to Batman and Superman. Wolverine on the other hand was not the established leader before the movies. The comics team leader is Cyclops and we never see him lead the team in the movie.
@donquixotedoflamingo9037
@donquixotedoflamingo9037 4 жыл бұрын
That's what makes it perfect, there are two stories... You said it yourself, the only people who didnt like it are the people who compares it to "original"... This is the perfect xmen for me. They both showed the peek of thier power on one story, and other one gives us their fisrt struggle... But i like your story, nice.
@ScottK7048
@ScottK7048 4 жыл бұрын
I thought one of the main issues was that 1. His healing factor allows his mind to deal with going back so far and 2. Aside from Charles and Erick he's the only one who was old enough in the 70s. Erick was in prison so that wouldn't work and sending Charles back seems to resolve all the tension which would mean no movie
@guyr3618
@guyr3618 4 жыл бұрын
I... Can't relate to any of these issues. The First Class timeline was WAAAAY more engaging to me.
@mra4521
@mra4521 4 жыл бұрын
To those who survive the Coronavirus Crisis on the Infinite Earths, when you remake the Marvel Cinematic Universe, might I suggest that Days of Future Past and Age of Ultron be merged into the same story. Make sure you keep Ultron's personality exactly the same though because let's be honest his face and his voice coming out of all the sentinels would be very entertaining yet terrifying at the same time.
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 4 жыл бұрын
Also, Wolverine literally disappears from the movie's third act, because, well, this wasnt his story, he went to the past to give Charles a message, once that was done, it was up to Charles to convince Raven to change history while dealing with Erik. Magneto literally swaps Wolverine from the movie.
@aarobec
@aarobec 4 жыл бұрын
Kitty pride though? Right? Shadowcat? She does it in the comics if I’m not mistaken. She’s literally just sitting there as a time machine in the movie.
@tomturtle1018
@tomturtle1018 4 жыл бұрын
Man that cliffhanger was like checkmating with a Bishop
@haydenphillips297
@haydenphillips297 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a pun refering to the second part?
@brewmaster2912
@brewmaster2912 3 ай бұрын
Tbf, Logan was the one the audience connected with the most so it makes sense for him to play an important role in DoFP. Plus, he’s relatively in the same state in the past so it’s safer for him to go.
@HALO20601
@HALO20601 4 жыл бұрын
So, does anyone have an idea what Fox was originally planning with having Mystique disguised as Stryker? I feel like that they originally wanted her to form the Brotherhood of Mutants, with Past Wolverine as one of the members. Or maybe they had no plan at all, and were just sequel baiting us. What do you guys think?
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
HALO20601 and the brotherhood never came back
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Elchert and that was dumb of their be half
@brianwombacher1046
@brianwombacher1046 4 жыл бұрын
You may sway me in part 2 but based on this video I don't agree. Sending someone other than Wolverine wouldn't fix most of the issues brought up. And while sending someone else might create more conflict, it wouldn't make sense in the story. If anyone could go that far back, then they would have already done it. Plus, we get to watch Wolverine have to deal with fighting without the adamantium this way.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
He had half a movie devoted to that
@k2tme451
@k2tme451 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you leave this on a cliffhanger making me want to watch the next video due to the sheer anticipation of you unique view on a franchise I love!?
@toothless489
@toothless489 4 жыл бұрын
The reason they send Wolverine to the past is that they are setting up a love triangle between him, Storm, and Black Panther. It's not hard to see Wolverine woke up, leaving, and Stryker catching up to him, and him ended up back where he started maybe Stryker using Magneto's helmet or something like that. Because Stryker is no fool to see Wolverine and not try to get his hands on him to make a weapon.
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's the easiest and most obvious character to connect xmen and avengers that even the most casual fans can pickup on ......well now maybe Deadpool
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 4 жыл бұрын
Or Bob lol
@iamthebatman6557
@iamthebatman6557 4 жыл бұрын
DoFP is actually my favourite main X-Men movie (excluding Logan). Although i do think First Class is a better movie
@v.v365
@v.v365 4 жыл бұрын
Have Colossus throw Wolverine Have Magneto throw Wolverine Have Storm use Wolverine as a lightning rod Nando doesn’t want a Wolverine, he wants a giant metal spike ball to throw around at his enemies
@manleeman5212
@manleeman5212 4 жыл бұрын
Part 2 better be coming soon nando!
@natethegreat7821
@natethegreat7821 4 жыл бұрын
I see where you’re coming from and (obviously) you have a well fleshed out perspective. However, I strongly disagree with you on this one. This was a very strong film with a seamless take on time travel and a reliable lead. Like it’s shocking how well this film worked and I love it for that. This is my favorite X-men film. But again, I see where you’re coming from.
@smac646
@smac646 4 жыл бұрын
Nando why are you filming in Leech’s room from X3
@_Kamahl_
@_Kamahl_ 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks Kamahl
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
~1:30 to 1:42 This is LITERALLY my childhood. First the Phoenix Saga. Then the Sentinels Apocalypse. John Byrne's art. Chris Claremont is probably why I became a writer. This is literally my childhood there on the screen. Thank you Nando...
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
I'm plugging you bro~ Great Nando... 🌺💜💕💥🦋🧚‍♀️⭐🧚‍♂️💫 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrhyedumrrWnp5c.html
@tripttwe
@tripttwe 4 жыл бұрын
Nando, your renditions always hit the mark! Can you give one for The Dark Knight Rises? With so much hype coming from TDK, I felt like the third installment was mostly a letdown with moments here and there. I'd enjoy hearing what you'd do differently.
@reedime5396
@reedime5396 4 жыл бұрын
Wolverine is the main character of the X-men movies because Hugh Jackman was getting the biggest paycheck.
@EmeraldTalks
@EmeraldTalks 4 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly not Ian McKellen or Patrick Stewart.
@OneAndOnlyYesMan
@OneAndOnlyYesMan 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not really how it works. They didn’t make him the main character BECAUSE he was getting the biggest paycheck. He eventually GOT the biggest paycheck because he was so popular and could negotiate a better contract.
@reedime5396
@reedime5396 4 жыл бұрын
@@OneAndOnlyYesMan Actually No. Hugh Jackman never negotiated for a better salary or contract ever in the X-men films. In fact, he took pay cuts later on as Wolverine. He was always under contract to do a set number of X-men films, and the studios insisted he be top billing in the movies he was in. The same situations occured with Halle Berry and Jennifer Lawrence.
@simonegreco1958
@simonegreco1958 4 жыл бұрын
@@reedime5396 He only took a paycheck cut for Logan to allow it be R rated It doesn't change the fact that the OC logic is wrong
@Yvaelle
@Yvaelle 4 жыл бұрын
This is called the Suicide Squad trap. If you pay Will Smith to be the star of your movie, then you feel compelled to give 1/3rd of the airtime to the least interesting character.
@FueledFromFiction
@FueledFromFiction 4 жыл бұрын
NO, IT’S NOT OBVIOUS WHO WOULD REPLACE WOLVERINE PLEASE JUST TELL US!!!! Storm? Cyclops? Beast? Nightcrawler? Xavier? Magneto? I don't wanna wait for the second video 😭
@LesProductionspasunRonddansLBa
@LesProductionspasunRonddansLBa 4 жыл бұрын
Am not sure if your joking or not... but am pretty sure he meens Bishop.
@huntcd2012
@huntcd2012 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, someone has pointed out that he more than likely means Storm. Each time Nando has brought up who could go back in time, Storm was shown prominently in the clip.
@waverunner6
@waverunner6 4 жыл бұрын
The future stuff really wasn't important narratively speaking, which is why it gets way less screentime and most of the characters in it have no lines and just fight sentinels. The movie is set up to priotize the more popular reboot timeline. Leaving Wolverine stuck in the past would've been a huge mistake. Whether we like it or not, Wolverine is the central character of this film franchise so it was a no-brainer to have him be the connective tissue between the two timelines. And frankly it's one of the few great ideas that this franchise had during its lifetime.
@matthewrandell5055
@matthewrandell5055 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. The fight scenes in the future are some of my favourite X-Men film moments but I dream rewatching the whole film because I find the past quite boring and I hate the Jennifer Lawrence Mystique character
@zfrank4095
@zfrank4095 4 жыл бұрын
11:40 he doesn't heave him, he shop-puts him toward the guy.
@pendragonfan42
@pendragonfan42 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised I haven't seen a comment recalling that it was never planned for Logan to go back, but rather Charles. But the film created the scenario of "the further back you go the more scrambled the mind", thus suggesting that Logan was the only one to physically survive the process (Ignoring that neurological and psyche damage isn't all that directly related to physical damage, but whatever).
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
Wait you're telling me that Charles was originally supposed to go back instead of Charles
@haydenphillips297
@haydenphillips297 2 жыл бұрын
I am fine with all the wolverine stuff in days if future past, but, With the Mystique-Stryker reveal at end, I would change that. Mystique would have brought Logan to the X Mansion, so Wolverine could be a side character in the other films. Wolverine would never go through weapon X, always having the bone claws, which I think is cool. Also, the Logan in the past would have never woken up in the future, with no memory of the last 50 Years, so, Charecter Devolpment Logan gets in movies like Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix will stay. So how will the other movies play out? Well Apocalypse will be mostly the same, with Logan teaching at the school, and when the mansion blows up, Stryker sees Wolverine and takes him with the rest of the gang. In this version, Storm wouldn't be a horsemen so, Apocalypse will only have 3 at the time Apocalypse kidnaps Proffesor X. Also in this version, Havok is alive, but Havok would be kidnapped by Apocalypse, becoming a horsemen. So, for the final fight in Cairo we have Wolverine, Mystique, Quicksilver, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Beast, Moira, and Storm because why not? The rest of the movie is the same. In Dark Phoenix, Wolverine would have a cameo in the very beginning, leaving the mansion for the events of the movie, which would tie in to a new version of Deadpool 2 somehow, mabye he leaves because of what happens in the icebox, and goes to hunt down Deadpool, Russel, and Juggernaut. No real effect on the events of Logan, I don't think this version of events changes much, except Wolverine has bone claws in this. Tell me what you think of this new version of the timeline!
@LibertyBridgeProductions
@LibertyBridgeProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta give this a rewatch cuz I like wolverine here but maybe your right.
@uutakke1
@uutakke1 2 жыл бұрын
The best part about all this is Mystique never killed Trask in the first place, he's in X3 played by Bill Duke. They realized their mistake and tried to hide it by saying "well we never gave him a first name so there, it can't be the same person" 🙄
@HariOmRadhaKrishna
@HariOmRadhaKrishna 4 жыл бұрын
My X-Men Top 5: 1) Days of Future Past, 2) X-Men 2, 3) Logan, 4)Deadpool 2, 5)The Gifted SE 1. *Great video, so far!
@traysutherland8491
@traysutherland8491 4 жыл бұрын
Dude Logan shouldn’t have been about Wolverine dying, it should have been about him discovering his past
@hozeiya
@hozeiya 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they could just send anyone other than wolverine. Kitty’s powers in the movie don’t allow her to physically send someone through time, all she can to is project a person’s consciousness into their body in the past. And as it takes place in 1973, Kitty can’t project her consciousness that far back because she hasn’t been born yet. There’s also another reason sending people back puts an incredible strain on the mind. They needed someone whose brain could heal from the damage and that meant Wolverine.
@nohaste417
@nohaste417 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda checked out when he disregarded deadpool as just fun
@cosmos1610
@cosmos1610 4 жыл бұрын
I mean Wolverine was one of the only characters old enough and able to withstand the trip. But I have one nitpick with the film. When Kitty sends Logan back they disappear meaning he was successful,spoiling the ending.
@mohdsalmand1385
@mohdsalmand1385 5 ай бұрын
I've read the comics and i've seen all the shows. As an OG X-Men fan the movie fixed all the things i hated in comics and Shows. It's my favorite version of Days of Future Past.
@themusicalhayes
@themusicalhayes 4 жыл бұрын
Yo that Mystique eye flash Stryker reveal got me confused like nothing else in the franchise.
@SupaSayinSkitch
@SupaSayinSkitch 4 жыл бұрын
4:35 Prediction Time!!! I agree and I think; A: a shortcoming is that you put wolverine in a position thats mainly dealing with other characters and being the voice of reason. B: a shortcoming is you lose one of your most effective killing machines doing what he does best! XD I'd to have seen Wolverine in the cave tearing through adapting sentinels while he watches everyone else die! And who to send back instead...taking out the whole needing his healing factor to counteract the damage from the brain splitting whatever nonsense; I'd send Xavier.
@zusfrankenstein8561
@zusfrankenstein8561 4 жыл бұрын
Wolverine is a short little guy who eats a lot, sleeps a lot, smokes a lot, and curses a lot. He's less leading man and more the resident grumpy uncle of the X-Men.
@exchanegedtag
@exchanegedtag 3 жыл бұрын
The X-Men Prequel/Reboots have the same continuity as the Resident Evil movies! Maybe they looked at Marvel Vs Capcom and thought, hey we'll treat this like Resident Evil...
@everythingabouteverything3304
@everythingabouteverything3304 4 жыл бұрын
Days of Present Nando Set
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
0:10!! HA!! Brilliant intro...
@DrMike18
@DrMike18 4 жыл бұрын
"What's wrong with Wolverine?" Everything. Everything is wrong with Wolverine. I really hope when Mutants get introduce in the MCU that Wolverine isn't really used. If we need a Wolverine in the story then use Daken or Laura. They're far more interesting.
@sidecharacter3193
@sidecharacter3193 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Angelo they should use him but have him be more sidelined
@DrMike18
@DrMike18 4 жыл бұрын
@@sidecharacter3193 I would also be cool with that. I just don't want the next X-Men to be WOLVERINE...and those other X-guys.
@sidecharacter3193
@sidecharacter3193 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Angelo true it should be X-men and wolverine from time to time
@isinganddootherthings4616
@isinganddootherthings4616 4 жыл бұрын
When's the next part of this video coming out
@anthonyvillanueva5226
@anthonyvillanueva5226 4 жыл бұрын
Nando's gonna send back Booster Gold it's so obvious
@nbasizzlereels5315
@nbasizzlereels5315 4 жыл бұрын
I think they did the mystic thing was to show that that is how wolverine gets his anomantiom all along?
@PsychoBible
@PsychoBible 4 жыл бұрын
I gave up on these movies long ago. I love X-Men too much to enjoy them.
@marvindroide
@marvindroide 4 жыл бұрын
Why they didn't adapt the animated series version, I will never know. Send Bishop not being sure about who the killer is. A future Sentinel after him that the team in the past can't stop, only run away from. Wolverine going out like a badass in the future, etc.
@adriel4040
@adriel4040 4 жыл бұрын
Send professor X right? I think I'd be pretty cool. It would given more credence to having a mind travel so far back considering such a powerful mind like the professor. Logan made kind of sense, but Professor X is the better option. He could still recruit Logan, if they wish.
@bluelocimon
@bluelocimon 4 жыл бұрын
I bet it's Charles the one you are going to mention as the time traveler, because it's him and Bobby the ones with Kitty when all of this happens, but Bobby is more usefull fighting in the future or protecting Kitty. And because the reason why Logan was the one who could go to the past was that his mind could heal itself, but Charles mind as a telepath, could also work
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
10:27, "So, like, WHAT?!?" Indeed... (🥰🤩)
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
I've been having a hard time logging onto Patreon (I'm having phone problems) but-- yes! As soon as I can get back on Pateon, I'd like to support this great content. This is literally my childhood comics and my adult decompress movies, many of which I truly love, unfolding here. Of course I should help pay for that 😉🥰🦋🧚‍♀️
@ramblinwriter4987
@ramblinwriter4987 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sending Storm back? YUP, you are... and THIS would be cool. She'd be like, what...mid-teens? That still can work but then where is she in relation to getting to Charles and Erik...? OH, can't wait...
@jamesfulton564
@jamesfulton564 4 жыл бұрын
OK, the way you framed it, it's either Iceman or Storm, but can I get an honorable mention for Rogue, though? She can have literally ANY power she touches, making her a great natural foil for Mystique (one steals your image, one steals your being). We'll ignore that Mother/Daughter thing. Also, & most importantly, it ties in to the beginning of the franchise that started with not Wolverine as the main character, but Rogue. Just Saying.
@BBXcompany
@BBXcompany 4 жыл бұрын
if you didnt tell me you got a new camera i stil wouldnt be able to tell a difference
@fryphilip7474
@fryphilip7474 4 жыл бұрын
I think the mcu should have a Wolverine trilogy and a X-men trilogy, and Wolverine should only be a supporting character in the X-men movies
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
Nando when are you going to finish your last Defenders rewrite
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