Never really noticed how Tony barely wears a suit in Civil War, but this makes a lot of sense. Ironically, that’s probably my favorite version of Tony.

“Marvel Phase Two is in the Wrong Order” Kevin Feige with the Time Stone: It’s Rewind time.

Phase 1: Construction of the hero Phase 2: Deconstruction of the hero Phase 3: Destruction of the hero

I like to see somebody do small edits to these movies, so they can all fit in the Nando order

Civil War always did feel like the real Avengers 2...so this makes sense.

Related: The Incredible Hulk is a better film if you watch it after Captain America because you understand what sort of Hero they are trying to recreate after they lost Steve

"The Nando Order"? I'm sorry, I think what you meant to say was "The Nandorder".

I assume you put Guardians before Age of Ultron because it explains the Infinity Stones easily to a new audience and so it makes sense when pop up in AoU? You said you'd explain why you put Guardians where it was but if you did then I think I missed it 😅

what got me was when Feige was asked why civil war happened, he responded "So the avengers are not a cohesive unit moving forward into Infinity War." So it makes sense, like Nando said, you want to have characters at their worst at the end of the second act, but what rubbed me the wrong was was that the reasoning only spoke to future events. It was an argument that we need this effect so here is a cause. Nando's order in contrast gives us that the individual Avengers are feeling loss so when Civil war happens they are left separated. It reinforces a narrative based cause an effect.

Nando: MCU is broken and the fix is... Everybody: ??? Nando:MORE JUSTIN HAMMER!!!! You're all welcome

The helicarrier is in age of Ultron is called by Coulson at the end of season 2, although if you're ignoring the TV shows (like marvel does) then you wouldn't know that, but agents does flesh out the story of shield after winter soldier Edit: Thanks for all the likes!

I LOVE how you don't just point at the problems and complain about them, but also always has a creative solution. Thank you, I am inspired

The way this makes 100x more sense and probably would have helped Civil War fit better in the universe

"Tony suddenly has an army of drones." tfw you realize they did that in Spider-Man: Far From Home also...

Nando: Creates a view order to enhance first time viewing experience Also Nando: spoils everything about the movies in the view order

Tony doesn’t give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3, he starts over. It’s called the “clean slate protocol” and it serves as a way to shave down the suits as a distraction from Pepper and his well-being. He never said he was done being Iron Man.

This was perfect. My ONLY problem throughout was that it wouldn't feel climactic an ending, but adding Civil War fixes that. This is now my headcanon ordering.

was literally skipping around marvel supercuts thinking "you know somebody could really do better with a ultracut movie" and then I check my inbox and like okay

I actually watched Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier after Age of Ultron, so I can confirm that this works Edit: Not that there isn't continuity errors, but that the tone of the movies fits better this way.

I also love that this adds more oomph to the Pepper and Tony romance. Like, half of what Tony does in IM3 is to win her back.

Nando really do be like Thanos saying "Reality can be whatever I want" for phase 2

You know, I think I always took for granted that Civil War *was* in Phase 2, simply because in the lead up to Age of Ultron when we learned about Civil War being the next CA installment, the actors on social media made relentless jokes about why their characters might fight each other. Plus, AOU itself already establishes some fundamental disagreements between Tony and Steve that make the film feel like a Civil War pre-game show. So I definitely agree that it belongs there.

I always thought it was weird how IM3 ended the way it did, and Tony has suits again in AoU.

Me: Time to unwind with the latest Nando video. Nando: Alright, we've got alot to get through so turn your textbooks to page 616 and let's get started...

My biggest issue with this watch order is that it makes The Winter Soldier worse. The reveal about Hydra wasn't just big because it came from within SHIELD, but because everyone thought Hydra had been wiped out. Knowing that Hydra is still out there in some form weakens the amazing reveal in The Winter Soldier. Also, I know you said you weren't talking about the TV shows, but Agents of Shield explains away your issues with Shield's presence in Age of Ultron. Shield is still very much an active (underground) organization. Coulson is the one who discovered where Loki's scepter was (info which he passed onto Maria Hill), and he also gave Fury access to Shield's last remaining helicarrier.

You'll also have to get rid of literally EVERY reference to the Avengers fighting Hydra in the first part of Av2 -- not just one throwaway line. In fact you have no clear reason why they're fighting these people at all, other than being a paramilitary group who got hold of Loki's scepter, but how the heck did that even happen? (Edited to add: I do like the idea in principle tho.)

If I may add a new post-credit scene for Winter Soldier: We cut back to Sam’s veteran’s of war meeting, a woman walks in. Sam asks who she is, she replies “a victim of war, who would appreciate your help.” Camera pans up, it’s Wanda Maximoff!

I would actually move Ant-Man to before Civil War, after Iron Man 3 and I would likewise move the end credit scene of the Avengers Assembling to the end of Winter Soldier. First, Falcon must show up in the movie as it explains how Ant-Man joins the Avengers. Second, Ant-Man specifically raids Avengers HQ, not SHIELD. It reflects that while Cap's intentions are noble, he lacks the resources necessary to run the Avengers as a global force and that leads to the problems seen in Civil War. And third, speaking of Civil War, this movie would directly lead into that movie, considering the post-credit scene has Falcon seeking Scott out, presumably because of the events of Civil War's first half.

This honestly makes way more sense then the existing order. Marvel needs to hire you dude

Age of ultron always felt like the iron man 2 of the avengers. I like iron man 2 but it spent too much of its time setting up future movies. Ultron felt important because of what it set up

Tony never stopped being iron man. Iron man 3 ended with tony saying that he is still iron man. He blew up the suits because they represented his need for control that he lost when he went through that wormhole. That’s why each one is built for a different purpose with different abilities, they represent an attack he hadn’t expected, an occasion he felt he was unprepared for. A manifestation of his need for some form of control. Blowing up the suits wasn’t him giving up on iron man, it was him giving up on control and responding to threats out of fear. It’s called clean slate protocol because it’s a new start for him to be better, which he tried to do through the use of the drones to protect citizens and the creation of Ultron to protect the earth. Creating the drones wasn’t undoing the end of iron man 3. The only problem I had with this video was your reasoning for why iron man 3 should go after age of ultron. Everything else seems fine though

4:13 “Age of Ultron makes two decisions that I really do not agree with. The first is-“ Me: *KILLING OFF QUICKSILVER! KILLING OFF QUICKSILVER!!!*

Cinemawins said something that I think explains the ending of iron man 3 the best. The clean slate wasn't him ending iron man, but him putting other things in his life, like pepper. I just think he was turning a new leaf

These movies will be RE-ORGANISED into the First! Nando! Order!

To be fair, I think the idea is that Tony is trying to step away from being Iron Man after 3, dropping the idea of these suits he controls for an AI that controls them without his input; but he has to step back into the suit until Ultron is ready, and then full-time because Ultron didn't pan out. Kinda like his plan for an Iron Man team in the anime that he has to drop at the end of episode 1.

If that's the case, Age of Ultron should drop the entire "Hydra" part since Hydra is to be revealed working in the Winter Soldier, which is set after Age of Ultron in this new order.

This is the proper way to watch the mcu in chronological order Captain America The First Avenger Captain Marvel Iron Man Iron Man 2 The Incredible Hulk Thor Marvel's The Avengers Iron Man 3 Thor The Dark World Captain America The Winter Soldier Guardians Of The Galaxy Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2 Avengers Age Of Ultron Ant-Man Captain America Civil War Black Panther Spider-Man Homecoming Doctor Strange Thor Ragnarok Ant-Man And The Wasp Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame Spider-Man Far From Home

Start of video: Why change the movies, why not change the order End of video: Makes more changes to the movies than would have had to the first time around. 😂 jk it’s a gr8 video and I get your points. Personally the release order still works for me but I totally get it.

the issue is winter soldier directly sets up Avengers 2. The whole reason the avengers reunite is that Shield falls.

I LOVE this reworking of the phase, everything makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE!!! I think someone who knows how to edit should try to make the little changes Nando explains: dialogue and Falcon cameo in Ultron, Friday re-dub for Iron Man 3 (which might not even be possible, but idk), stuff like that. Even without them though, this is my new headcanon for the MCU.

Tbh the MCU has always been a bit of a mess and all over the place. I guess downtime is finally getting people to ask questions lol

Agents of SHIELD Season 2 actually explains where the Helicarrier in the end of Age of Ultron comes from

I just thought of tag lines for the boxes of these movies based on "The Nandorder". Phase one: Assembled, Phase two: Disassembled, Phase three: Reassembled

One huge flaw with all of this. The SHIELD stuff in Age of Ultron makes sense because it connects to the show Agents of SHIELD. In the show, Shield goes underground after the events of Winter Soldier with a skeleton crew and is run by a resurrected Phil Coulson. Coulson regularly communicates with Fury and Maria Hill, passing along the intel about the location of Strucker. And more importantly, restoring a carrier for use in Sokovia.

I never saw the appearance of shield as weird or out of place in AoU, maybe because in agents of shield we were shown that shield wasn’t completely dismantled, we see that like half the agents were actually from hydra but there’s a portion of shield still functioning

I'm in the middle of an MCU rewatch and honestly this really works for me. I have been pushing Civil War because it really didnt feel like a follow-up to Ultron. Ultron could use the rework. A lot of the characters have 1 liners that are funny, but not organic to how that character would act in the moment. Although I would miss the Falcon cameos, but I just love Falcon.

"Marvel Phase Two is in the Wrong Order" Thanos: *Impossible*

So I guess you’re going to ignore how agents of shield explains the helicarrier.

14:43 Avengers: Age of Ultron should have been called "Avengers: Reassembling The Avengers To Do Another Avengers".

The surprise helicarrier is actually explained in Agents of SHIELD.

You are a writing Genius! Someone hire this man!

4:41 The Helicarrier is from the show Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. You have to watch its first two seasons also to get the full picture. 5:47 Tony never stopped being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3. The movie ends with him collecting the remaining parts of his destroyed suits, and uttering the words "I Am Iron Man".

KZfaqr: *makes video about Age of Ultron w/o mentioning Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.* AoS fans: "Umm, actually..."

IMO: In the Winter Soldier, it’s just revealed that hydra survived in like one third of shield. The whole thing isn’t taken down yet. So, in Ultron, Ultron takes over project Insight as it launches, with an awesome battle with all the Avengers spanning three helicarriers.

I love this idea however there's too many lil changes that does ruin the continuity....

Nando V Movies: Phase 2 Marvel films' order is wrong Me : *Laughs in DCEU*

You’d have to drastically change all of those movies

I disagree. Iron Man 3 perfectly sets up Tony and his headspace for AOU, The Winter Soldier also perfectly leads Cap into AOU, and Thor Dark World does as well. In Iron Man 3, Tony said he was “trimming down” the Iron Man thing, in other words NOT retiring! Age of Ultron also starts by the Avengers cleaning up Hydra after TWS so that would not only take away an entire opening action sequence that connects beautifully to TWS, but it would also keep hydra out of the picture which would mean that you would have to do MAJOR reconstruction to AOU since hydra had the scepter. Also, shield is still shut down in AOU, they literally say so early on in the film. Just because Fury had access to an old helicarrier doesn’t mean shield is still operational. Plus, in regards to your AOU opinion, Age of Ultron has better character development than the first Avengers! Less like caricatures and more like relatable humans.

Your channel became one of my favorites so quickly! This is GENIUS! can't wait for the next video

It's kind of crazy to see this fit together so well. You nailed the corrections, and everyone's character development feels much more fluid and natural. Well done!

Agents of Shield explains the helicarriers in an expertly done way. I thought you had seen the show...and if not, do it man!!

Great points, Nando! I also like the idea of Thor 2, GotG, then Avengers 2 because it introduces the Infinity Stones in a more organic way, especially following Avengers 1 where we got the Tesseract. You could honestly probably move the Thanos post-credits scene from Avengers 2 to GotG Volume 2, since by that point, we’ve already seen 5 of the 6 stones.

I've been thinking of this order for years AND nando you just fit it amazingly!!!

This absolutely has to be one of if not the best videos you’ve made Nando. Me and my ma love these and I know she’ll love this one

For that part about Star Wars at the beginning I disagree. It's not Luke's story, it's Anakin's. George Lucas himself said it.

So we're just gonna ignore the gem that is Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

Long time follower, this is still my favorite video you have made. The point about Tony hanging up the suits and it being a big deal in Civil War is such a genius idea I wish was canon.

I appreciate your hard work. Thank you!!

Among the opening lines of Age of Ultron: "We've been after this thing since SHIELD collapsed" Nando viewer who believed him about the right order: "Wait, what?"

Age of Ultron is terrible but re: Tony’s opening contradicting the end of Iron Man 3 - an addict making some grand gesture and then relapsing almost immediately checks out way more than loads of other MCU decisions. Not saying that was a conscious choice (of course it just happens because Iron Man gotta Iron Man), but for the character it totally checks out.

What I love about Nando is he’s a great rewriter. He could title the video “Why falcon can be galactus 1on 1” and I’m just like “.....I mean it’s nando so sure probably”

Another I love about the order is we didn't really get to see the Avengers spend time as a team in Avengers Tower, as soon as they were shown in AOU, that same time had them move out from there to Avengers compound which was being run by SHIELD not Tony Stark. So to move from AOU into Winter Soldier makes a lot of sense. You could even swap the last two movies in the Nando order to have Ant-Man be the last movie since the post-credits scene alludes to Civil War to make it seem a more organic transition

"I'll explain why guardians goes before AoU" *never explains it*. It's because of the infinity stones and Thor's quest at the end of AoU isn't it.

I always felt that Phase 2 was a bit of a mess. Much as I like Civil War, it shoulda been an Avengers film instead of a Captain America film. Captain America 3 shoulda been based on the Nomad story from the comics. Cap witnesses a depressed U.S. President commit suicide, shaking his faith in America. He tries to cut ties to the government but they own the name Captain America so he ditches the identity to become Nomad. But then Red Skull returns and kills a kid wearing a Cap costume, forcing him to reclaim his mantle. Also Age of Ultron & Civil War shoulda been the same film, Ultron manipulates the Civil War to distract the Avengers from his scheme.

I'm so stoked to hear about the machete order! I've always taken a firm pro "toss Episode I directly out the window" stance!

Yes, exactly! Once I wanted to do a rewatch and had to check with google to see what is the order of this phase - it meant no sense to me. Thanks for the video

tl;dr Joss wrote a sequel to his first avengers film foremost, and an mcu film second

For your order to work like you said you'll have to ignore a lot, so how does that work if I've never seen the film's. If I told a new viewer your order, it would cause confusion, falcon wasn't just at the party he's at the end as a new avenger, then winter soldier he's introducing himself, just ignore the male voice of Jarvis for an entire film is ludacris and Nick Fury in AOU makes too many comments to ignore about the status of SHIELD. And there's post credit scenes and Tony's arc reactor plus just other minor things characters say. It's one thing for small inconsistencies but the level of ignore is too high lol.

Now this is my headcanon order. As you said, you just need to imagine some lines being different and don't watch 1 post-credit scene. Although, in your version of Iron-Man 3, Tony could just be using a different AI with a Jarvis text-to-speech over it. Oh yeah, when I first saw the first two Avengers movies, I wasn't really aware of the non-Iron Man movies, so I just accepted what I was seeing. This sort of brings that back.

4:31 This was explained it Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (seasons 1 and 2). 10:44 He didn't destroy *all* of his suits. We knew he had at least 40, and the ones that were destroyed in Iron Man 3 were at most 20.

4:30 agents of shield explained and set that up. don't you dare change it

The Helicarrier was explained in Agents of Shield

This is so much better narratively speaking, i hope this order gets some mainstream recognition and somebody make tiny changes all around.

Another thing that this helps with is that no one ever points out that Ultron and Project Insight are almost exactly the same plan.

From one side: what you say makes sense (especially having ultron before winter soldat), but on the other, we lack that fine thread that connects movies the way you'd suggest in form of mentions or snippets of dialogue. I'd still rather watch it the way it was made I guess...

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Thank you so much for this!!

This makes all of those movies better. I always thought Ultron and Civil war fell short, and i think this helps explains why. glad you fixed the order.

16:09 does anyone know the background music?

Haven’t watched yet but I’ve been saying the same thing for years! Winter soldier should come before Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World. Let’s see what you say...

I love this! Great job!!

When I first saw Age of Ultron I thought about the Helicarrier thing and was like "Huh? But isn't SHEILD gone?" But then as the movies went on and started to get crazier, I completely forgot about it.

Has Nando seen Agents of SHIELD? I always got the impression that he had but I'm not sure now since he didn't mention them in this video.

Dude, the excitement when i saw this is real

I really like this it feels like one of those theories that fit so well you just except them as headcanon

Holy, this is GENIUS. Can’t believe how much this simple fix takes care of in terms of continuity and improving character arcs

Honestly, this is so functional that I'm surprised it wasn't the intended order.

I wish the NandovMovies Version of Avengers: Age of Ultron was Canon in the MCU.

This all makes alot of sense. Well done sir. Well done.

This is so friggin awesome! What a awesome take on the universe