Just like Newt, she managed to hide and hold out for longer than most, but obviously got caught not long before the arrival of the Sulaco.

Or the first alien took out the communications. Or maybe acid from the first one they killed. Maybe even a facehugger. They could have lost comms trying to get the facehugger of the first test subject. That leaves plenty of time. The first queen would have run off and looked for a place to nest. Maybe nothing else happened for over a week, except a few of the colonists casually searching for it. They couldn't have known how much danger they were in. Ripley only assumes that Newt survived longer than 17 days. The only thing that throws a spanner in the works is her "borderline" malnutrition. But Hell...that could be a few days without food

Duh!

That scene is one of the most pivotal scenes in the film. It literally sets in motion the entire fight in the hive. Before she wakes up and is subsequently and summarily flamed to death the troops were "safe". They would have been at least until they found the Queen's chamber. If she was not also dormant as the other aliens were. I watched a TV version where right as the woman's chest burst... Apone says "FLAMETHROWER move!.... *cut to commercial* UGH! one of the most frustrating edits I've ever seen in a film.

Timeline to receive a signal round trip LV426 to Earth and back is a month. Then time to delcare them unresposive and plan a rescue, cut orders (millitary time takes time) and dispatch a ship. Supposed time the troopers are asleep is 2-weeks more. Let's split the different and think Newt was alone for 7-8 weeks. Not only for two.

Tinnitus is fun that way

I can relate

You know why you have tinnitus right? It's because of the electromagnetic radiation from 5G and all of the other wireless devices out there. I put it to you. For your own health, leave your phone and any other wireless behind and go camping as far away from any wireless device and radar tower as possible.

@@LukeLovesRose ROFLMAO! Sorry, mine is from gunfire, some full auto. And explosions. The laugh is they bitch about them 3M ear plugs but fuck nobody says a word about them cheap dark orange junk made of solid rubber.😡

@@LukeLovesRose I heard you get it from being exposed to too loud noises while your still a baby-3yo and it from life on from then, it’s pretty common

Agreed! I listen to old videos all the time.

Sometimes I do exactly that!

Save all his lore videos onto one playlist Then Profit

Me too this guy makes a great unique universe even better. He’s really done his homework that’s for sure. Plz keep it up for us to all enjoy

His video Nestromo Revisited is one of my favorites. It's actually put me to sleep before, like listening to someone reading you a bedtime story. Even if it's a bedtime story about a killer alien lol.

Yo would literally be such a gooooooooooood series

Dark horse did a 2 issue called newts tails, issue one was what happens to the colony ,and #2 was when ripley and the Marines arrived.

Mostly.......

Would watch the hell out of that

Read or listen to Aliens River of Pain

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LMAO!

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I never trusted him.

Damn

Yeah, she had a scream that would break glass, that's for sure.

Well, they did say they played the footage in reverse to get the crawling effect so it was probably taking off the other way to get away from that eardrum shattering pitch. Newts scream is the ultimate bad ass text tone! Never miss a text

If having had a waterfall of little cousins in my younger years and later as an adult having 3 nieces has taught me anything, it's that girls under the age of ten have a piercing scream tailored specifically to make their own race go deaf if you're within ten steps of them when they do it.

I caught it as well. I did smirk after I heard it.

@@infojunkieworld same ^^

"They mostly only come out at night..."

Game over man!

Made me smile as well, Newt is one brave kid.

Lmao!

“ You know. For kids ! “ Whoops wrong film

Yeah, the new Predator movies are a far cry from what Predator 1 and Predator 2 were, let alone the early Alien movies. Predator 1 is phenomenal movie in its own right. The way it shifts tonally from being an over-the-top action movie to straight-up horror halfway through with the Predator making contact with the Squad is just fantastic cinema.

"Aliens" is a masterpiece, and will never be eclipsed by the crappy CGI-movies of today. Real heart went into that production!

It's much like John Carpenter's The Thing. Those practical effects STILL outshine CGI today.

I think that some of the effects in Aliens would benefit from a re-do. Love the film by the way, just think it would help.

I Might be stupid, but I liked a lot Prey.

Amazing, wasn't it? Like a ticking clock....

especially when we know the horrific fate for everyone. Ultimately everyone involved at LV426 ends up dead soon there after.

ooh yeah I love the early stages of the infestation when colonists are getting pulled away and going missing little by little and the infestation just keeps getting worse and worse until basically all hell breaks loose

I recently read the book and I wholeheartedly agree.

Don't Disney own the rights to Alien now? It'll probably be a six-season binge watch this time next year.

@@Tormented22 If disney did it, all the aliens would be gay.

@@LordFalconsword The sexuality of the xeno was established long ago: Queen makes egg, egg makes facehugger, facehugger makes alien. Homosexuality is extremely simple, relatively speaking and not somewhere the xeno species can go. The group of humans however? Maybe one would be gay and one would be trans, and some would be brown and some not. Like society, really, if you think about it. And between you and me, before they actually do this in a show... ...wouldn't it be awesome to see a badass trans woman (or man!) doing cool shit in a film about hostile alien creatures? We don't think of trans people as being badass. I know for a fact Caitlin Jenner could whoop both our asses though :) ☺

@@Tormented22No.

Alien Isolation 2

Every other thought in my head while listening to this was your exact statement. It would be horrifying. It would be such an excellent sci-fi horror movie. It would have a built-in audience I just don’t see how it would not be a success. You wouldn’t even have to throw hundreds of millions at the budget. As long as you used good costumes the sets would honestly be minimal. I would even relish the chance to watch a fan made version of this. But anyway. I second your emotion 👍🏼

I m in agreement. They should have gone ahead with making a film on Hadley’s Hope before making the likes of Prometheus and Convenant which to me were a disappointment. That said Resurrection was not all that great and it’s when the franchise started to really lose its way. I liked the idea of Alien 3 and the plot but it was the CGI which let it down.

Same here!! I'd absolutely LOVE a prequel movie about Hadley's Hope! Maybe set just after Isolation. The tense foreshadowing build up of the company's decision to start a colony, Newt's parents being all like "This will be the big break for us!" All the subtle signs of the colony being infiltrated, people mysteriously dissappearing. Just get someone competent to recreate the old school 70s style and we're made! Anything better than the "actual" prequels like Prometheus or Covenant.

Read the two issue comic "Newt's Tale" for your prequel.

Totally agree!I always wanted movie about a Hadleys hope it would be for sure better than Covenant or Prometheus crap

also catched it :P

Its game over Maaa'an !!!

@@wtfsalommy3250 it's game over man MOSTLY!

@@jackmullin9247 that would make for a shirt 💪

JC can borrow alien is undestructible from t1000

Sometimes your imagination is better than what can be brought to the screen. This is part of what made the first two Terminator movies and Aliens so good.

YES! :D And the dude who got his throat slit in Clive Barker's "Nightbreed"

Don't forget, he was also a cop in The Fifth Element too, his name is Mac Mcdonald, the guy IS Sci fi!

Thanks , I couldn't remember where I'd seen him before and I recently watched aliens again but it still didn't click.👍

@Cracking cheese lad Ace Rimmer would defeat the aliens barehanded

@@johnjaleco5683 just make sure you smoke him a kipper for when he's done 😁

Or at least a animated movie, that would have worked well.

Seriously. Covenant was a super let down. Prometheus was awesome though.

@@jaybeam1466 Convenant was okay, i liked it but it i agree, it could have been better. Their reasons for landing on the planet was fine but after that the plot was pretty weak. It was like they tried to cram more lore and explanations than what was needed, which messed everything up. Honestly there are alot of Alien comics and books, why not use those to make movie.

On Audible they have this time-line as a cast reading. It's really good

Its pretty badly written. People making obviously stupid decisions. Marines etc getting picked off ons by one. Splitting the parry to charge in to..what? Save the infected? Aliens easily overrunninv a secure area with one entrance vs automatic weapons etc. Its ludocrously bad

If not Marines, at least Private Bonded Security Teams. The Colonial Marines discovered the Colony and all the evidence of armed Battles with the first waves of Xenos.

@@josephruiz7233 yeah they first saw signs of combat when they saw the huge acid damage in the main entrance of the colony. They even assumed that the threat was non existent.

“These people are here to protect you…they’re soldiers.” Newt: “It won’t make any difference.” Hudson to other Colonial Marines: “Did she just call us f*ckin soldiers?”

@@trevorduna7666 Cameron made that aura and attitude intentional. The Marines thought that the Aliens were wiped out. That's the affect that Cameron was looking for with the Colony looking like a former, and I emphasize "former", Combat Zone.

@@josephruiz7233 that's what made it so perfect. They let their guard down against the deadliest threat. 120+ deadliest threats.

But with business ethics as it is today...... Does it surprise you?

At least the xenos wouldnt fuck each other over for a percentage right..? @@justsayain9794

This little bit confused me a bit the first time I watched it, I always thought it was convenient that the prospectors just so happened to find the derelict ship coincidentally as Ripley was thawed out but on rewatch I realized that the prospectors were literally sent there by the company and by Burke more specifically after Ripley reports her findings. Pretty scummy of them

That's what the moral of the story was. Ripley says: You don't see them f*ucking each other over percentages.

Nice, Frost.

Yeah, looks that way.

Hot as hell in here

@@charleshemphill6923 Yeah man but it's a dry heat.

Knock it off Hudson 🤣

Quit your grinning and drop your linen, we got ourselves a new upload!! ;)

Happy birthday to the greatest science fiction movie ever made

I liked some part of it. Other parts i didn't like towards the end.

I like the book, too. The only minor quibble I may have, and not even a quibble really, is the description/location of the egg chamber in the book. Or rather the discrepancy between how/where Kane found the egg chamber by being lowered all the way down into it, and then how the Jorden's found the egg chamber right next to the fossilized Engineer. Not a big deal for me at all, but a discrepancy. Still really enjoyed the novel.

I’d rather have James Cameron do this instead of an Avatar sequel

Or heck, even a TV show of the event.

@@eddieolshefski6467 there is already a book, could easily adapt that to TV or a movie.

As much as I'd love a prequel with the events leading up Aliens, I think it's better as a story untold. The Aliens special edition with extra scenes allows us to imagine the horror, less is more sometimes!

@@trj1465 Yeah don't give Disney any ideas. We don't need another effed up franchise.

She’d grow up to be one tough cookie. Think Vasquez on steroids with Ripley’s experience

@@GuinessOriginal Shame she died in a crash soon after escaping. "Newt died on the way to her home planet."

yeah, that would have too traumatizing to most people or kids. Watching it slowly happen and grow...you are right, HAUEhuaheau91.

I thought Rebecca/Newt died along with Hicks?

@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 In Alien3, yes.

I don’t doubt she may have escaped the 2nd last battle or last battle. Maybe with the group that left after the loss of both teams. Either way she survived that long is incredible but it was only a matter of time before she was caught. Unlike Newt, she probably didn’t know the duct system and good places to hide. Only so many places to hide with 100+ Xenos running around.

Mom took my brother and I (I was 10 or so) with friends to see the original in the theater. My brother and I made it to the chest buster scene and ran out of the theater, we waited in the lobby until the film was over. I have been fascinated with the Alien story (ies) evermsince that night.

Me too and I love it

Same that sounds amazing it also sounds refreshing.

What will be the ending be? Waking up to a group of Marines trying to save you as you hang from the wall?

@@hippoace Could be I'd rather there was no happy ending, there really wasn't one for any of the colonists save Newt unless you include Alien 3 then maybe not 😁

@@glenakatsr Brackett perhaps? Loosely following River of Pain.

What some people have talked of is wishing you could play AS Newt. She's alone. Her brother, and parents are gone. All she has is herself and her knowledge of the colony airducts. Maybe have a tutorual stage where she played "the game" (hide and seek) inside the air ducts with her friends. The novelization of Aliens mentions this twice. Once when she is being jeered as a"cheater" by her brother Timmy right before their parents make their fateful journey. This is shown in the deleted scenes of the film. And later in the novel only Newt says to Ripley "I was best at the game" and Ripley understands she probably meant the air shaft system given where they found her living. She goes on to mutter about having a good memory and that she could get into places others were too big. It makes her the Marines' Ace in the hole when they're escaping. When we think about it Newt was not so minor a character in Aliens. She was every bit as important as Hicks, Vasquez or Bishop. EVEN Newt as a playable character for one level would be interesting. A DLC pack since her mission would start with death of her parents and end when the Colonial Marines and Ripley arrive.

Or maybe even the first 30 minutes of Aliens showing more of what happened at Hadleys Hope. As we do see the start, but it then cuts away after the event with Newts parents. They could have filmed it and released it after. Maybe as a short film at least. As my idea would surely screw up the pacing of Aliens. The pacing of one of my other favorite movies is slightly annoying. 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day'. I seem to lose interest after the prison break and they are driving at night in the car towards Sarah's Mexican friend with the underground weapons storage. That is when I usually stop watching, almost every time I re-watch it. Where the pacing in Aliens is perfect. I'm going to re-watch Aliens now to see if I'm remembering the pacing correctly. Both directed by James Cameron as well as I'm sure you know. "Have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "Have you?" :)

There was a series called Hadley's Hope and 3 others, 1 being a UK series that looked like Hadley's Hope. Hadley's Hope had the girl named Newt. It was on the cover of TV guide, I had this TV Guide until '00 when it came up missing. There was the movie too and you could buy the big wheel. People called it the Hadley's Hope big wheel.

Have you seen ‘Prospect’ from 2018? It’s decent.

@@Ryglado I wasn't a fan of that film man, I wanted to like it but it was just boring!, I'll tell you what is good though Sputnik from 2020, it was a great sci-fi horror, not that I'm a horror fan but it's a horror like Alien is a Horror! You seen it?

Raised by Wolves was great also! I feel it was the vision Ridley mixed the Alien franchise up in and anoyed us all with Prometheus and Covenant! Not that I didn't enjoy them but they weren't 'Alien'!

@@S-T-E-V-E No worries! I can’t disagree that that Prospect was slow moving. Yes, I did see Sputnik and liked it a lot! Another alright low budget one was Archive, if you saw that. Yes, I’ve seen Raised by Wolves too - excellent first half of the series and definitely worth watching! Yes, we didn’t need Prometheus or Covenant (but Prometheus was good if it wasn’t an Alien film!). I’m holding out a little hope with the new Alien series with Noah Hawley involved, but only a little.

@@Ryglado I haven't seen that, I'll give it a go, there's a little known sci-fi from 2018 called Extinction, it's really good in my opinion, give it a go! Also 'I Am Mother' is a great sci-fi film, you might have heard of that one!

I always wanted to see an alien Isolation sequel with the hordes of Aliens, but a much more subtle approach to combat. Something whereby the player character has the potential to fight off a half dozen aliens or so, but the gameplay penalises combat randomly. Ie- hit points required to kill aliens is random. And sometimes a random xeno may take more ammo to kill than the limited supply the player carries. Aliens that are programmed to use the ducts, and structure of Hadleys Hope to traverse the colony, whilst you try to hide like Newt. And there are a few small groups of surviving colonists, some with an engineer, a doctor, or security specialist in their midst. You have to choose which groups to save, by running quests such as to barricade one group in at the expense of another, or put in place security turrets, or restore the power so they can monitor swarms, and hide accordingly. The games story should be multi-tiered, with the characters being dependent on player choice. Who lives and who dies. The doctors can provide you medical assistance. The engineers can help remotely guide you to parts of the facility that can be closed off, or hatches that can be forced open, and security can remotely control turrets, help you setup mine traps, guide you to dead comrades with weapons and ammunition, or help give you quests to cobble together the components to build your first flamethrower etc… Sewers, vents, corridors. It should be all open to the player. An open world, with colony tractors as transport. The facility, the landing field, the atmosphere processor and all its sub levels and engineering facilities shown and not shown in the film. Alien Isolation plus, in the high octane vein of aliens.

It would have been a pretty awesome movie.

I agree 👍👍@@squidlipssupreme168

Instead of the novel, listen to the audio drama. The cast do a great job, it's very well done. You can listen to it on KZfaq.

assuming corporations hadn't had bought the justice system in the future.

Let's be honest, whether the Xenomorphs got him or not, Burke was never making it off that rock

Agreed, it would be a good project if disney every decides to do anything.

@@breembo The story is pretty much already done for em too! No wait, not even pre-production and they've already ruined it by adding way too much random stuff. Dang, it was good while it lasted.

Not really interesting, as everyone know how it would end. A short, like half an hour feature movie add on to the Aliens movie, would be nice though.

@@antonicholernik1747 So? Just because we know how it ends doesn't mean there can't be interesting story lines or characters. I mean it's just your opinion. There has been a comic line about it after all known as Aliens: Newt's Tale.

@@antonicholernik1747 Titanic is one of the best selling movies ever, and the ending isn't exactly a mystery :D

Great exchange between Private Vasquez and Lieutenant Gorman, then of course the classic "Awe Man" by Private Hudson. Rest in Peace, Bill Paxton...

@@erict.5724 I would Marry Private Vasquez but she would wear the pants in the house.

@@walterheisenberg9278 Ditto.

@@walterheisenberg9278 She also wears a Smartgun, if you need a spider to be exterminated

Aww mannn

Its an amazing tale well acted. Even if we know how the story ends.

Guess ill Google that

You won't be disappointed,it's awesome

Haha.... Don't worry friend, you are not alone. I was 12 when I saw this in the theaters.

At least we got to grow up with good films. These movies today are trash.

Yep. 1986, it was ahead of its time for scifi. Great sets, and effects. I was 19yo

Same here. Aliens and Die Hard are the most influential cultural events of my youth!

When it came out I was there.

I think it's more they understand the value of darkness for cover. They're obviously much smarter than mere animals.

millions of drones made of acid-resistant plastic that seek out xenomorphs and blow up near them could eradicate any alien infestation, flying, swimming, or crawling drones, makes no difference. They may have thousands but we would make millions. Poetic justice.

Alien is my favourite.

Thats what he is summarizing here. No idea if the Fire and Stone series connects in. Its not really contradicted by the novel but the book doesn't make it reasonably likely either. On the upside it means Aliens in a universe without Prometheus or Covenant which I am totally good with.

@Mel Gibson After 4 Beers I actually think the thing could take the xenomorphs

I feel like they'd work together

I've alway wanted to see Xenemorphs vs Starship Troopers (the soldiers, not the bugs)

The thing and alien are the best sci-fi horror films ever made, so I'd imagine that would make for a prolific film

@@elektrobear2027 The xenos are silicon based hence I think they would be considered non-organic to The Thing imo. However I'm not opposed to the idea' but I think it would be them saying to each other "look you do your thing I will do mine and lets stay out of each others way."

After the marines are attacked, Hicks also states that they won't be reported overdue for 17 days before help is sent out. Ripley reminds him that Newt survived longer than that with no weapons. It took over a day for Newts family to get to the alien ship and the father had the face hugger attached on June 21st. The rescue team arrived on the 22nd and he was brought back on the 23rd and had the alien burst out later that day. The other team went out to the ship on the 22nd, which means they shouldn't have made it back until the 24th. Yet they are all back and have aliens bursting out of them by the 23rd. The timelines don't make sense. It also would have taken time for the Queen to be laying the eggs and have them develop with grown face-huggers inside, so the aliens wouldn't have grown in number as quickly as they did in this scenario.

Also, don't forget that newt was reported to have "borderline malnutrition...but no permanent damage." So it makes sense that newt was on her own for longer than 24 hours when she was found by the Marines and Ripley.

According to this, It did take roughly a month. Newts family die on June 26th and she escapes, Ripley and the rest arrived JULY 27th.

Go install fallout shelter lol

@@glenakatsr I've played it but I wasn't really referring to a mobile style game. I remember back on PS3 a tower defense game called savage moon. Kinda something that style.