I think Zeno would've been capable of making universes on his own, or with the help of the Grand Priest, and that's why he so casually destroys 6 universes long before DBS and would casually destroy the other 12 universes during the ToP, and that's why he employs Gods of Destruction to destroy planets within those universes. That why Zeno plays a game with planetoids that can easily destroy them. He doesn't care if he destroys anything because no one is his friend, besides Goku or Future Zeno, and before making those friends or if they were selfish during the ToP, he could just make another multiverse to replace the multiverse that disappointed him.

Zeno represents the fans of dbs, as the fans get excited when a tournament happens, and have great power, as the person can simply switch the channel, “erasing” all the universes, or the multiverse. That is why even gods such as beerus fear Zeno despite his childlike self. As beerus says, “what does Zeno see in that mortal” as Zeno/fans of dbs enjoy Goku as a character and how interesting he is Edit: this actually has been confirmed by Toryama I believe (hope I spelt his name right )

Zeno created that button he gave to Goku to travel to him or call him!! So yes he creates, in fact created something rather powerful (not even Whis can travel in an instant)

What if Captain Ginyu body swapped with Zeno

Something ive always wondered: Zeno can erase grand priest But can grand priest reach zeno and kill him before zeno closes his hand? Who knows

Isn't it ironic how in a way, the most godly character is the most down to earth

There’s many flaws in the argument. He is presented as ruler of the multiverse. Also erasing is not destructing. For every god of destruction there’s a supreme kai. Zeno is meant to be both. Just because you don’t see him create doesn’t mean he doesn’t. You don’t see the supreme kai do any creating and that is literally his job.

I think that Zeno is that multiverses G.O.D and there are more multiversal gods

You know that Zeno is the weakest character if he doesn't use his power but he can beat Yamcha easily

I can see what you mean. Like, if this was true, then how beerus has hakai zeno has its own technique of destruction

We need a buddy comedy with Zeno and Dr Manhatten getting into lovecraftian level shenanigans

Great channel man, keep up the great work

Hmm.. I never thought of that thanks for the great video dude

Hey Carthu, I’ve got a good video topic in mind that I’d love to see your opinion on. How do you think Trunks’ “Super Saiyan Rage” transformation works? All we really know is that it was enough to catch Black off guard multiple times, and that it was achieved through sheer anger and well, rage. In my opinion, I feel like the form’s strength is based on the amount of anger or rage the user has while in the state, but I’d love to hear your thoughts on the transformation, like your opinion on a hypothetical multiplier, or general strength range

An interesting idea! We haven't really received much about Zeno, but maybe someday he'll be cleared up a little!

If there are multiple universes with multiple Zenos then why was Zeno completely alone then? Wouldn't he be able to find a friend with others who will treat him like an equal?

Do what if goku allowed krillin to kill vegeta at the end of the sayian saga

If I was Zeno I would probably just go "Sup, I created you but you are allowed to do whatever you want. Just don't try to injure me in any way and you're fine."

amazing video dude

One thing you didn't adress: Every GoD has not only an angelic attendant but also a kaioshin. So who is Zen-Oh's kaioshin? Is it Zalama? Or is it someone else?

Awesome bro i love your videos

Here's a concept for you : What if you have other people pose as the heroes in the story, remember the interactive what-if? This might be even more interactive. So basically, the people have to solve the problems, or rather, they have to defeat the antagonists. So you could have a What If (Insert Scenario Here) and have the people who are in charge of the heroes making choices. For instance, finish it quickly, or let the fight the drag on. It would be kind of like Dungeons and Dragons in a way.

Super good nice job man

Moral of the story, be fearless and god might just chill with you.

Epic video dood

This is a really cool theory I like it and it sounds completely plausible cuz we all know if you're the top dog and you don't want to do something you don't do it 💯

Zeno is a child. Body and Mind. Which is why he is so dangerous, all that power in the hands of someone who doesn't understand its consequences. The Grand Priest is the guy behind the throne, the one actually running everything. The worst part, is while Zeno can destroy universes at whim, there is no one that we know of to counterbalance him and create new universes.

Gods and Angels: Bowing and shaking in fear Goku: "Yo Zeni! Suh dude!"

Yo carthu your videos🔥

This is why people think the grand priest is the strongest 1. All zeno does is destroy which classifies him as a destroyer 2. The grand priest is the father of all Angel's which classifies him as a angel 3. All destroyers have a angel attendant 4. The Angel's are always stronger than the destroyers That's what I think

I'm here I just wanna let u know cuz I think ur channel is gonna blow up soon so I wanna let u know I've been here for a while

I came up with the same hypothesis just a couple days ago. I have a few points that you seemed to miss so I'll probably make a similar video to this with my added points

Yes first again love ur vids

Nice theory 🔥

Actually that makes perfectly sense nice video

This vid was lit 🔥

goku acts normal next to zeno beerus: *sweats* supreme kai: :0 whis: 👌

With the way the god hiearchy is going, I'm going to say that the god after Zeno is going to be a teddy bear.

"The More childish and weak looking the character is the more they're insanely powerful" - Toriyama Logic

Zalami: Creation Grand priest: Balance Zeno: Destruction

MIND...........BLOWN 😳🤯, INCREDIBLE 🤓👌🏾!

God that zeno pic right there is looking to my into soul

I've never consider that perspective. Thanks.

I BELIVE ITTT

Awesome, on a side note I would've had the Grandpriest be the boss. Instead of Zeno. And have zeno as his prodigy instead of his master. But strick upbringings would isolate him from making friends, similar to Gohan and would lead to a whole new ark making up until where Goku shakes Zeno's hand. Here I would have the Grand Priest furious that a lowey mortal would dare touch his son without consent. But let it slide once he sees' Zeno laughing for the first time in eons. Fast forward, Goku brought future Zeno and the two boys begin playing, this would lead to a slightly irritated Grand Priest with two children to look after. Before Goku leaves he would respectfully, ask for the Grand Priest to give Zeni some independence. Explaining that he can't make him into himself, he has to find his own potential and decisions. Later on, this slight scale in confidence would suggest the TOP to the Grand Priest after explaining the rules, and the reasons why he would be impressed that the two Zenos thought if this all on their own. Everything would pan out like the original, with Zeno actually being permitted to leave into the mortal realm. With a curfew of course. I mean it's not that I hate Zeno he just had no character development. And I would've loved to see this pan out like this.

You should make a video on how long the saiyans will last. It is a question that has not been spoken of on KZfaq as far as I’m concerned

Is the song in the background from DB Super soundtrack? I am loving it.

The intro ends at 9:28 if someone wants to skip it.

I love the dubbed version where zenny says "you go back or bye bye"

Bro I been trying to convincing my friends that zeno is a god of destruction of the multiverse but they don't believe me

Alternate theory name: The Beano Theory Zeno + Bean = Beano

Wow thats cool carthu

It hits spot on to work. We just need Toriyama to confirm this and all will be candy dandy for an interesting arc. Btw, I have a theory of my own. Goku hasn't mastered UI, why? Cause he just achieved it's complete form once and even Beerus said it. Next step for Goku is to mastered it and go higher than it is, just like Ssj in the cell arc

Maybe zalama might be his supreme kai

Zeno be like: Yeetus I deleteus Ur unvirses

What if zamasu was never stopped by zeno

I don't think Zeno is a god destruction but it's the other way around. The gods of destruction of each universe are pale imitations and they have the power to erase but not in the same way as Zeno. Zeno's ability seems to be to be a reset, he reverts creation back to it's original state. I am not sure what that would be but my guess is that the place and where Goku went when the Genki Dama blew up are the same, it's a realm of pure Ki energy.

*Zeno appears* Me: Hello zenni! Zeno: Shut up, I will erase you! Goku: HI! Zenni! Zeno: Goku senpai 😍 Me: *Infinite fear* Zeno: *Erases me*

My theory is that Grand Zeno's physical strength goes beyond logical understanding and far surpasses even a fusion of all the angels including daishinkan. It just doesn't make sense that a blue and purple toddler holds such a high power and his best move is just erasing things. What if Grand Zeno encounters someone he literally cannot just erase

if anything this is a lesson in true humility and respect, goku is actually showing respect to zeno by being himself and honest despite his position of god of destruction, and it seems that in this show they arent exactly evil but true chaotic neutral, meaning reason and diplomacy isnt out of the question, as demonstrated by beerus, albeit in a cruel and impossible way. point is, in situations where powerful characters are true neutral, they often lean towards characters like goku because of that humility. its a breath of fresh air from being pampered and treated like a porcelain doll.

If you think of Zeno and the angels as just aliens that happened to set up a government first rather than true divinity that created the multiverse, things start taking on a much different tone. Zeno may just be a child emperor from a powerful race after the previous emperor died, with the angels acting as a sort of shadow government controlling the multiverse through their closeness to the omni-king. It would explain why the grand priest seems so sinister, and so often speaks for the omni-king. What if those erased universes aren't actually erased, but are the universes where angels/kais/Zeno's come from, and are simply not gone to anymore, with the angels saying they don't exist. I mean, we're kind of just taking them all at their word for it that they're gods and angels and stuff. We've seen that destruction energy isn't something that only destroyers can use. Ultra instinct isn't something only angels can use. We've seen mortal races able to use 'divine ki'. Honestly, I think that they're just really strong races that came up with some good techniques and have a good PR game going. We've seen some areas where mortals even outperform the so called divine. People like king kai became irrelevant in power fairly quick, and even the bigger divine races like whis can be outperformed, with the yardrats developing an instantaneous movement speed that can outperform whis's fastest movement.

Zeno is stronger then the GP he just isn't a fighter and why would he be? you needs to throw hands when you can just erase people .

So since there is several multiverses then this is:Megaverse.

When this mans said the grand priest was str onger than Zeno I was sleep asf . The anime said the grand priest was in the top 5 fighters in the multiverse not the top 5 strongest Zeno is overall stronger but he is not a fighter

"It's turtle all the way down" and "there's always a bigger fish"

good summary and analysis of Zeno's relationship with Goku. Also nice bgm, reminds me of the french child melody frerojoka or w/e. Do you agree with the notion that Zeno is analogous with the fanbase (or at least the child fan market of Dball)? To elaborate shortly: if the kids aren't satisfied the franchise gets essentially erased

The music is fucking haunting

What Im wondering is that since all GoDs are linked to their universe's Supreme Kai, a creator god, who and where is Zeno's Omni Kai?

Hey what about "if captian ginyu transformed into a ssj in gokus body?"

one day dragon ball is going to get so advanced that there will be multiable multiverses

Do what if goku always go full power

4:55 "Shut up, I'll erase you." My stupid ass: pffffffffffffffffffffffft-

Do a how powerful are zeno guards are theory

In the beginning, I noticed a flaw. You said Daishinkan is the strongest but in the anime, it is stated that he is the 5th strongest in the entire multiverse

Makes sense.

Carthu, could you do [What if Raditz never came to earth] video?

Hi Cartu dogo thank you for teaching me what Zeno is I be watching more dragon ball videos in the future

Imagine using the Super Dragon Balls for a boat 💀 Earth Dragon Balls: Are we a joke to you?

You should do a what if on if vegeta and goku had a version of them in universe 6 since aren’t they parallel universes?

what if goku wished the most powerful version of himself to come defeat cell after realising that he can`t defeat cell by training in the hyperbolic time chamber. (i`m talking about current super dragon ball heroes goku, or if you want you can use the T.O.P arc goku) it`s about if gohan didn`t have the potential.

the GP being stronger could explain how the angels didn't get erased or why they are so chill around zeno while the G.O.D freak out.

*Cha Cha real smooth*

Other Known Multiverses(if Timelines are also considered as Multiverses) that were NOT shown in the Anime: 1. Cell never showed up, meaning Piccolo never assimilated Kami, making Kami STILL Earth's Guardian 2. Cell killed Future Trunks and went back in time to create the Timeline we are currently viewing 3. Zamasu killed Gowasu, became a Supreme Kai, stole Goku's Body and killed him along with his wife and kid (that monster) 4. The Timeline Whis created by going into Future Trunks' world's past to prevent warn Future Beerus and Future Whis about Future Zamasu, most likely leading Future Beerus to erase Future Zamasu before he meets Goku Black, obtain the Super Dragon Balls to gain Immortality How's that? It'd be cool to see the Z Fighters visit other timelines other than Future Trunks'

The Zeno theory is mysterious well at least or atleast it sounds like that

There has to be multiple multiverses in dragonball only traversable through time travel, which the humans invent. So multiple universes in groups of 12 - 18, each with their own version of Zeno, copied an infinite number of times for all the different timelines that could possible exist. Cool.

I remember when I first watched dbzs I had the passing thought of if someone created the super dragon balls (I thought of it like a namekian) and as such there would be people stronger than that (think of it like a a chain) you got the main cast where there’s namekians then you got the saiyans etc.. but with the super dragon balls you would have this super namekians and then above them the saiyans and that just repeats

If zeno is the GoD for this multiverse, I wanna see the Kai that he is tied to

Could you imagine using the most powerful thing ever for a boat when you could use something much weaker for one

You really deserve more subscribers

So the theory is that even more powerful characters exist for Goku to fight one day? Sounds on point.

Hey I swear Zeno told the guards that they would go bye bye instead of saying shut up

If the Grand Zeno is the GoD of the Multiverse where are the Kais of the Multiverse?

That was more a review of Zeno than a theory...

Best way to entertain him would be to get him a bunch of books, a TV and some video games.

Interesting

1:58 is that supposed to be frost?

So would this being above zen-oh sama be the supreme kai of the multiverse or is the supreme kai on the same level and there's someone above both of them?

2nd love your videos lol

Now what would happen if cell consumed zeno?

May I ask what program you use to edit your videos?