So, what do YOU think the Breen really look like under their suits? Let me know down below!

A friend of mine who was a prop and costume-piece maker for DS9 back in the day told me that the plan, never realized, was for them to be (basically) lupine, as suggested by their snout-shaped mask. But it was decided that it was more interesting to leave their form as a mystery. And so it is. And of course, my friend may have been supplying disinformation.

"Water vapor in air that movie's stupid", "aliens don't need your permission!" You crack me up, great ringtone BTW.

I had this silly idea for what the Breen could be a while ago, that under their suits and in their natural environment, they're literal walking snowmen. More concretely, they're jellyfish-like creatures with big heads that contain their brain and other organs, and under that head a big mass of long tendrils that they can use to shape loosely-packed snow into improvised limbs, they then wrap their tendrils around the snow "body" and move it around like a big puppet. As well as for movement, these tendrils have the function of absorbing oxygen, meltwater and nutrients from the snow up into the head of the Breen body. On Breen itself, the "snow puppets" the Breen walk around as could be in any shape that is convenient for the environment, but when going out into space, they restrict themselves via their fridge-suits to a humanoid form, for ease of interacting with the technology of other (overwhelmingly humanoid) aliens. I also this "walking snowman" idea could explain why their species and homeworld are both called "Breen", the word could translate to "snow", so a Breen is a Snow from Planet Snow. There's another interesting canon fact about the Breen that the Doctor gives in an episode of Voyager, that their females reproduce at what, by human standards, is a very young age. One interpretation of this could be that Breen exhibit sequential hermaphroditism, that they're all born female and then become male at some later stage in life. This could be quite an interesting thing to portray if the Breen ever make another Star Trek appearance. Moving away from their biology, I've always thought they might have more technological secrets up their sleeves as well. In a lot of their appearances, a character will remark about how odd it is that the Breen are operating so far away from Breen space, and then there's their capacity to be able to launch a sneak attack on Earth during the Dominion War... I think the Breen have access to some sort of transwarp capability, as well as who knows what other technology they might be keeping secret from the wider galaxy by posing as just simple pirates and raiders at the fringes of civilised space.

I also saw a crackpot theory that Breen soldiers might be reanimated dead bodies that use refrigeration suits to keep the decay from damaging the body to much

As cool as it'd be to see what they look like, the Breen should never be revealed, just always keep the mystery

I took my first look at them and cried 'Snoopy-Cylons!'.

In the Next Generation episode "The Chase" (season 6 episode 20) we learn that a large portion of the humanoids in Star Trek all share a common origin from a long extinct humanoid species that seeded themselves in worlds across the galaxy. So really humans, cardassians, klingons, etc. are all linked. Something makes me think that the Breen do not share this origin, which is why they are so different. I always found it odd how many humanoid creatures there were in trek, but the explanation of their origin explains it, and it also may explain why they all seem to exist in relatively similar atmospheres and conditions. The Breen didn't originate the same way (presumably), so they evolved in such a different atmosphere, which explains all the strange distinctions we see. It could also be possible that they aren't actually humanoid at all, and the suits they wear are simply shaped like a humanoid to make interaction with the other species easier. You know, having fingers to press buttons and hold weapons and stuff.

"Never turn your back on a Breen."

What is really confusing is when they capture Worf and Ezri the areas of the ship we see them have an oxygen atmosphere and so do the adjacent corridors, pretty nice of the Breen to change there life support systems to accommodate a couple prisoners.

Your idea of a jellyfish type creature could work well with nobody ever seeing one. You'd have to figure they have been killed before. If you opened the suit and whatever was inside already dissolved into goop you'd still have no idea what they were.

Thank you I'm glad you showed how Leia wore a Breen helmet in Jaba's palace to free Han. She's part of the Confederacy!!!

I think that the Breen is actually similar to an unmanned drone with the actual operator being elsewhere. Like flying a drone with the Breen home world being in control "real-time" far away via subspace, neutrinos or tachyons possibly?!

Love the ringtone lol

I like to think they are miniature Mycelial Networks in suits

I've always wondered how much of the suit design and sound design was influenced by Princess Leia's disguise (or "Boushh") from Return of the Jedi.

Part of me wants to know what’s underneath their suit but the other part loves the mystery. Awesome job on another great video Tyler!

The water vapor in the air bit about the movie Signs was so on point, huge peeve of mine lol

i hope the breen never get demasked, i love the mistery, also i think they are multiple species and probably have humans among them, probably OG Augments

Love the Breen and tholians 2 mysteries of star trek

Thanks for sharing your search of the information about this interesting race of Star Trek.

Absolutely STILL the biggest mystery in my head cannon 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️ Great Job Tyler🖖🏻

I opt for the Breen being a multi-species group with Breen being a cultural denomination, not unlike the Star Wars Mandalorians. As to odd (to us) biologies…not necessarily. They are anatomically symmetric, bipedal, have a sensory & communication organ platform mounted at the highest point of their anatomy, aka a head, they stand at around 1.8-2.0 meters high and they seem comfortable operating in a 1G gravity well. They aren’t so different than the rest of the main alien species in the ST universe.

Great video as always! Personally I think that the breen are "jelly like" and that they share a common ancestor with the founders (their territory is close to the gamma quadrant), but i also like the idea of them beeing a collective of species. Best regards from Italy/Germany

Awesome dude definitely deserve more subs

As I kid I always thought they looked like Leia when she goes to rescue Han with the thermal detonator. They have a very Clone Wars axis of evil vibe. Great video as usual buddy.

I'm convinced the Breen are one of two things: Either they're basically White Walkers from GoT and burst into goo when exposed to an M-Class atmosphere, or they're a collective of species who use the suits as a built-in suicide device, kinda like how the Romulans used to blow up their own ships rather than be captured, and not being seen by outsiders is somehow a religious mandate.

11:03 That' s something I never thought about... Them Breen helmets DO look like the one worn by Leia...

i think that knowing what the breen look like is like hearing morn talk(even though he apparently never shuts up off screen)

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well we needed a cold alien at the cold alien spectrum with the Tholian at one end of the hot alien of the Star trek spectrum

Perhaps, even without a circulatory system, perhaps they still have cytoplasmic streaming and or Brownian Motion taking place within their bodies, to circulate needed nutrients. What do they look like? Like humanoid cousins of K-9 of Doctor Who.

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I like the Breen

The Typhon Pact novel Zero Sum Game by David Mack shows some very interesting ideas on Breen society too. I really like the idea of them being composed of multiple species...and the way Mack uses the genetically engineered Jack pack to figure it out is plain cool.

The most famous Breen said is best, "Who am I? What am I?" - Neil Breen

Statistically, one of them has to be named Neil

Another fantastic video dude!!

Thanks

great content as always, love the mysterious aspects of the breen.

Awesome video I been looking forward to this. Love the comedic touches as well... There's some good comments and speculation on what the Breen might actually look like but I hope it's always left a mystery 🤔

On an episode of DS9 Weyoun says that he saw the breen home world and it WASN'T a frozen wasteland. He said it was beautiful and quite warm, then I'm pretty sure Damar says "then why do they wear the cooling suits?" and Weyoun says "nobody knows".

I'm sorry that I missed this videos premiere! I've been all over the place today and I still feel like I didn't get anything done. I'm excited to see your take on what the Breen look like and to learn more about them.

6:10 Neil the Breen !

The Breen coalition with many individual species united under the ‘Breen’ name would be cool and help to smooth out any inconsistencies in canon as well as their lack of a concrete identity. Also perhaps augmentation is a factor in their society, given how we’ve only ever seen military forces and no civilians - their soldiers being adapted to become unstoppable killing machines that don’t bleed (reanimated corpse theory?).

Major Kyra and Gul Dukat know what they look like. They knocked a couple out and stole their uniforms.

Love the phone call

Yep. They all look like Princess Laya.

I agree that the Breen are probably a collective of species hence them taking the style Confederacy, but I like to think of them as being all non-humanoids who unified to defend themselves against the prejudices of humanoids. Thus they wear the suites as mentions to better interact as stated, and explain why they have good relations with the Founders, similar history.

Breen seem to be a multispecies faction to me. If you look at the Breen in canon they have different body types. Some are towering muscular figures will others are short and stalky. Some are even scrawny. Could be just that the Breen like us humans are just diverse in stature. Its cool that the Breen are still a mystery regarding their appearance so we can speculate and create theories about them. We do not need enything in science fiction to be explained and we do not need an origin for everything. Mystery and speculation make things interesting. I tend to think the Breen are like the Xindi except I think the Breen have a canine, feline, primate and a type like the Andorians. Primate Breen are the bigger ones because I think they are sasquatch like primates. Maybe the Breen are like earth a long time ago when more than one type hominid lived except other species of intelligent hominids like Neanderthals did not die out. Could be a a federation of different hominids that live on the same planet. They can be all princess Leia under the helmet. Breen could also just be humans and the Federation is covering up their appearance that's why we do not know what they look like even after the war where for sure Breen bodies where recovered. The things characters in Star Trek say about the Breen could just be rumors and speculation. Maybe the Breen evolved to rely on their suits because of an ice age or them colonizing an extremely cold planet out of necessity. On earth the Neanderthals evolved to live in extreme cold and modern humans can live anywhere with the right clothing or suits. The Breen may have evolved so they can only live in their suits or have an immune deficiency and can only live in a sterilized suit like the Quarians from Mass Effect.

I always wondered why Weyoun told Damar that the Breen planet had a Comfortable temperature , when Damar would know What the breen planet was like since the Cardassian have embassy on their planet. That piece of dialog always confused me. Lol

The Breen sound similar to the Vorlons of Babylon 5. There, the race was a large, glowing worm-like creature that was stuffed into an environmental suit that was designed to hide its appearance. The Vorlons also insinuated their native atmosphere was very toxic to most life forms, although this was most likely another ruse.

Under the suit is a princess with headphone hair.

The Breen look like Boushh from Star Wars, the disguise Leia wore in Return of the Jedi. I originally thought they were some sort of crossover teaser. I guess instead they are just an example of convergent evolution.

So I’ve reasonably found your videos and have been binge watching them this past week and can’t help but feel you should be a reference source for some of these writers when is comes to the new series. I feel nobody has an appropriation and knowledge of the Star Trek universe like you do. Once I finish my watch through of Star Trek in the official timeline order I will for sure have questions and have to rewatch these videos to pick your brain or see if you answer any of my questions. Please continue the good work.

I don't think they should show a Breen without their suit. Some things are best left to mystery in tales.

In a novel it stated that they were many races and wore the suits to look the same.

I've always theorised that the reason that there is so much conflicting info about the Breen is cos they purposefully spread misinformation about themselves to confuse there enemies.

The concentration of a compound is vital to the reaction. It's entirely possible that the humidity in the air is not concentrated enough to break down the Signs aliens skin in the same way diluted acid isn't instantly lethal to humans but can be an irritant.

That’s just great, under the breen suit they look like Howard the duck 🤣🤣😂😂

I support the idea of a multi species conglomerate as it was described in the novel Zero Sum Game. Some of them would evaporate or just liquify on class M conditions, some of them look like wolves and some of them are almost human like and all share a very special interest in a strict privacy

They better never reveal what is inside the suits, the mystery is what makes them interesting. Plus in Star Trek Online where things like must be approved by CBS for the things that have to remain canon, it is revealed they come from the Rolor Nebula

I once asked a Breen to describe himself in 1 word and he only said: "Brzghhazzrszzszhdzhgz"

Breenie babies!

Your outro absolutely slaps

Going by the helmet design i always imagined they look like Leia Organa in _Return_

You give great analysis to the world of Star Trek, OR. I am binge watching ST9 episodes and haven't gotten to episodes with the Breen Confederacy. I kind of hope we never see a Breen without their suits as it's sort of an enjoyable mystery species. I wonder if the Breen Confederacy are still a force in the 32nd Century and will the Federation and Starfleet come across them again?

another wonderful video!

I've always had this theory that based on Weyoun's account of the planet, and the things that we've been told about their physiology; that maybe they wear refrigeration suits because their planet underwent some kind of major global warming. Maybe they did have a frozen planet at one point, but catastrophy forced them to don the suits, because it's no longer habitable for them. They seem to breathe oxygen; with the Breen in the Jem'hadar prison, they woulda had to hook him up to something, or replace his 'air' over long periods of time; unless the visor and helmet take in the oxygen from the environment. And in water for example more oxygen can diffuse into colder water, so perhaps the colder environment in the suit helps facilitate breathing without a circulatory system.

The fact that 2 starfleet officers stole suits from Breen and we still don't know what they look like is wierd. Maybe they're some kind of form that brains can't process, like a Lovecraftian species, so not only do they need the suits because they're used to such cold weather but also because other species wouldn't be able to see them. It's a far fetch idea I know but it would be an interesting idea that has very seldom been in Star trek; a species that reacts to different kind of light which may also be the function of the helmet, to help them see in the light that most humanoid species are used to.

They could be gaseous forms or like spirits, sort of like the Vorta in Babylon 5 or Johann Kraus in HellBoy who uses a suit to be around humans. They choose to take the shape of a humanoid not because they have to, but to make others more comfortable, at least in terms of humanoid to humanoid interactions. Although they have too many humanoid traits like crossing their arms or possibly their ship design, assuming they have been seen on the inside, to be fashioned for humanoid use as well.

nice video friend, for me the Breen is the most FANTASTIC alien race in the star trek universe should had been federation allys like the klingons

4:50 you OWE us a slab!

Alien life maybe more Earth like than we realize.

For all we know they could be an energy based Life form.

Thanks for your super work. I have been a fan since I was exposed to the airing of the first show of the first season. I was 5 and the gray hair of " Nancy" made me afraid of my grandmother and her gray hair. I never missed an episode. So thanks for blessings us with your great video. Julian Wilkins

An ‘undersea’ amorphous species kinda like changelings but requiring a cold environment that interacts with the outside world in powered suits which circulate the appropriate atmosphere at appropriate temps. Like a reverse diving suit.

Seen that mask somewhere in a galaxy far, far away, in about 1980...LOL!!

An Ice crystalline race that uses energy for locomotion but required suits when not in a sub freezing environments.

I recently came across a very interesting bit of biology regarding priapulid worms. Apparently they don't respirate, nor do they have a need to utilize oxygen through blood for metabolic & necessary chemical reaction purposes to stay alive. They have instead developed a respiratory pigment within their cells called haemerythrin which gets oxygen to where it is needed. It would be fascinating for Star Trek writers to give the Breen this ability.

4:50 God I hope that's your real ringtone

I thought (since Enterprise) that the Breen could be an ancient offshoot of the Aenar who left Andoria much like Romulans left Vulcan. This would explain not only the refrigeration suits (assuming the settled on a planet not as cold as Andor), but why the Andorians thought the Aenar were extinct or apocryphal....So many of them left to later establish Breen that Andor nearly lost track of those they left behind.

Q: What do the Breen really look like? A: Ubese

The Neil Breen cameo 😂

Wait, the Breen home star is possibly a red dwarf, and they need specialized suits to interact with other species..... Breen are Vorlons!

Love the flash of Neil Breen there. Well done👌🏻

“These are small aliens that you could prolly beat in a fight” ….rofl I’m so done rn

oh yeah thats right i just realized the breen are kind of like the sand people from star wars.

The Breen mystery is a novel idea. By that I mean that it makes no sense outside of the narrative. I mean... there's a war with the Breen. Which means, dead and captured Breen. You mean to tell me that nobody pulled the mask off a dead Breen? For that matter, we know two main characters that did exactly that and it's completely glossed over. Kira and Dukat disguise themselves with Breen suits to rescue Ziyal. Meaning that one or both of them definitely saw a Breen without their suit because they literally had to take it off their bodies. I suppose we could argue that they found some kind of supply area where they got the suits but that seems unlikely. Kira is maybe stealthy enough to do that but, why would she risk that when there are guards walking around with the suits? I've always maintained that a good mystery raises more questions after trying to examine it than you had before and the Breen mystery definitely fits that criteria. x_x

Well the Breen can be impersonated! Nice idea of multisexed, multispecies planet.

Princess Leah is in one.

Some say they come from a galaxy far far away

Frosty's Hathouse....sounds festive.

I think I could beat up a jellyfish...

Surprised that helmet didn't get them sued by Lucasfilm; it looks like the helmet Leia wore disguised as "Bosche", the bounty hunter in order to infiltrate Jabba's palace.

They look raw

In Lower Decks Shax states "the breen dont take prisoners". This may be why the Breen are seen as such an overpowering force; they leave no survivors.

Lmfaooo not that ringtone tho! I saw somebody comment on another ST culture video that that song is like the Rick Roll of Star Trek and I so agree! Haaaaaaa Other favorite line, "Aliens can be whatever they want and they DON'T need your permission!"

Good one

I would love it if they happen to look more like part of the dog family even though you brought up interesting stuff of what their bio chemistry could be