Kapampangan too :(

Why?

Ilongo please?

Ibanag too..its a dialect around isabela or northern part of the philippines

Ah that makes sense, I was wondering. Can we have more please?

Irwin Mier, Generally speaking, all kinds of communications are considered Language. Afterall, its etymology comes from the Spanish/Latin word Lengua and Lingua for Tongue. Even for the Deaf is called Sign Language. Tho I know the difference, I will give you definitions from Google. 1). Languages are broader, and dialects are smaller and more specific, and often regional. Languages are thought of as more formal and clearly defined, whereas dialects can be looser and more fluid in use. Oftentimes, languages are adopted as “official” by countries and states, but dialects rarely are. 2). Dialect, a variety of a language that signals where a person comes from. The notion is usually interpreted geographically (regional dialect). 3). A dialect is a form of a language spoken by a smaller group. Someone's accent is a part of their dialect. In this way, sometimes someone's accent can show where they are from. Hopefully this will enlighten people about the difference of Language and Dialect.

@@chattcedric6321 Yes, reading the definitions 2 and 3 aligns with what I see as the difference between a language and a dialect. Dialect as a variety of language: True. Tagalog has many varieties and it differs by province. Ilocano has two major varieties. Cebuano also has a couple of its own local varieties. Dialect as a form of a language spoken by a smaller group: Also true. Batangas Tagalog is a local form of Tagalog from Batangas. Boholano is a local form of Cebuano in Bohol. Those two examples are dialects of their respective langauges.

@@irwinmier8878 There you are, you now know the difference between Language and Dialects. But there are still some people insisting that there is no such thing as Dialect, instead its all Language. Some say that those Local/Regional Vernaculars are not Dialect but rather Language. My explanation is enough, no need to be a boring parrot repeating. Any grade schooler will understand. But some people are so hard headed and full of false pride as not to accept that they're wrong.

@@chattcedric6321 true this!!! daming triggered pag dialect ang tawag sa mga yan eh.

@@chattcedric6321 simply put, all dialects are languages, but languages aren't dialects, if that made any sense

I'm a Filipino who can't speak Tagalog but can understand it and can read it, since I mostly speak Hiligaynon or English lol

@@madhie-kun8614 where is Hiligaynon spoken? I only knew tagalog & bikol since my parents are both from Bicol

@@_calcherrym from what I know Hiligaynon is mostly spoken in south east Iloilo and Negros Occidental.

Samee and i keep mixing up bisaya and tagalog lmao

Filipino here that's also just a Tagalog speaker. I have several clues to identify languages even though I don't speak or fully understand them myself: Bicolano has a lot of hard and thrilled R's. I also know words such as "sarong" "maray nga aldaw" and "magayon" so those gave it away Waray has a lot of H sounds My parents speak Cebuano so it's not that difficult to identify it Ilonggo is like a mixture of Tagalog and Bisaya, with a distinct intonation. They also say "gid" instead of "gud" or "gyud" Chavacano is easy, sounds like a mixture of a lot of Spanish and Bisaya Additional languages not mentioned there: Kapampangan has a lot of 'E' and 'U' sounds. I also hear a few words from it like 'kekang' 'kekami.' Ilocano has a lot of double consonants and they pronounce their letter e's as schwas. Aklanon has a weird "l" sound Of course, this is only including the major languages. If you mix it up with other languages with similar qualities, I wouldn't be able to know the difference. For example, I've been in Tuguegarao for a while now, but I can't really identify if people are speaking Ilocano, Ibanag, or Itawis, because they all have double consonants, has that rough quality, and schwa sounds. And I haven't been actively learning these languages.

Yes because our language is a Spanish creole

cuz itsa creole just like haitian creole sounds like french with african language mix into it

Because chavacano is spanish creole

@bohhhh njjjjjjj and did someone ask for your opinion??? 🤨🤨🤨

It's easy to tell the difference between Chavacano spoken in Cavite and Chavacano spoken in Zamboanga because the latter mixes in some Bisaya words which the Chavacano speaker used in this video. :)

for real hahaha. i'm from laguna but most of the time, i really can't understand their tagalog hahahaha

I'm from Oriental Mindoro, specifically Calapan. Most of the people here in the city sound like normal Tagalog people. Commonly, we use a combination of Manileño and Batangueño vocabularies. The people from the provinces have a similar accent to the Batangueños. To the very south of the whole island of Mindoro, Tagalogs and Bisayas often mingle as we are directly above the region of Visayas.

now call someone from Marinduque for them to hear Marinduque tagalog haha

Batangas is a good example of a different accent for Tagalog.

should be Marinduque Tagalog. that dialect of Tagalog sounds different from mainland tagalog

Some languages can be really hard to know. I guessed Hiligaynon at Waray lol

The Samar-Waray and Cebuano-Bisaya were very close. I'm a Davao-Bisaya native and lived in Cebu for years, but I didn't recognize it actually. The girl said it was a dialect but not Cebuano. I was surprised she knows well.

Nindot

@@TeaDrinker-eq3md chada

Lucky you, I'm still struggling to understand the other Bisaya languages despite the shared vocabulary. Hoping to learn more Waray-waray soon 😭

You can add Kinaraya-a the western most dialect in Visayas

pareho pareho ra sila doh

Each region is composed of numerous provinces. Each province has its own language

Grabe ba! Pano ka nang ga tuon sng mga language?

@@madz4591 Hello! Nag migrate ko sa isa ka French-speaking City and nag study ko full time French sa school for 18 months, tapos damo ko Bisaya speaking classmates that time ano pa naka learn ko gamay, kaso mix Cebuano & Mindanao Bisaya akon na learn. Tapos naga learn ko now Spanish sa Duolingo app, pero basic pa lang kay 1 lesson a day lang gina himo ko.

Good to hear that actually we're almost the same since I can speak major languages in our country thanks for me that I study in a seminary in cebu for 4 yrs. which is I have waray,hilonggo,bicolano,chavacano,boholano surigaonon classmates that's why learn and spoke also that languages and given that tagalog and English is already learn and actually I can speak Spanish like 60-70% of it and 80-90% swedish as I im residing now here on sweden

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@@janelleroco8694 nope dialects

@@janelleroco8694 In this case, dialect is the correct term. She's referring to students from Cebu, Bohol, and Davao which share the same language but has different dialects

@@janelleroco8694 It would be wrong if she called Tagalog and Bisaya dialects, but she didn't. She specified the regional variations of Bisaya which actually are dialects so she's right.

As a non-fluent heritage speaker with both parents from Bohol, I noticed the following to easily spot the differences between the various dialects of Cebuano Bisaya: 1) Cebuano - shortcuts for words, like "balay" becomes "ba'ay" or "halas" becomes "ha'as"; tends to use "w" instead of "l" for example "uwan" instead of "ulan" (though I noticed this in Bol-anon as well). 2) Boholano (Bol-anon) - a lot of "j" sounds for words that contain a "y" ...for example "maayo" becomes "maajo". Also the "k" in "ako" becomes "h" which leads to the popular Bol-anon phrase "aho aho, ija ija". 3) Dabawenyo - uses a lot of Tagalog words (e.g. they're more likely to use "ano" instead of "kuan")

Lol i just realized that hahaha

Sometimes you can, and the pronunciation.

The mouth and mannerism can give it away.

@@nickcarlogayoma3955 yup!!! It’s one thing I use to understand what my parents are saying, because I can barely speak my families native mother tongues; but I understand.

Sometimes how they look can give it away. Like I find it pretty easy to guess if someone is ilocano just based on their features.

Sometimes they include Masbateño to the list, another variant of Bisakol.

Bikol masbate,,

That's why I said that bicolano,Visaya,tagalog,ilocano are languages

Sorsoganon & Minasbate are Visayan languages that are only within the geopolitical Bicol region.

I study at Bicol University. Students from different parts of Bicol are there. So I get to hear a variety of Bicol dialects so it's kinda fun to learn.

She came back to the Philippines a lot of times too, after living here for 18 months and they have a song in Cebuano (I think they published it 2 or 3 years ago). She's a singer and a very amazing person, bubbly and friendly in real life!😁

Beth has the cutest laugh/ giggle 🤗

Ang lakas makasosyal pakinggan ng chavacano.. i like it!

Sorry ya Madam! Hinde ya perfect mio Chavacano kay ya tarda ya tamen io nuay kun quien ta man kwento Chavacano ki na Tate!!!😄

@@dearlycarrasco3919 ahh ansina ba? Perdona lang mi madame🤧😂

@@stephanielim5544 🤣 🤣 🤣

@@dearlycarrasco3919 tu se na vídeo? Donde tu parte aquí na Utah?

Ilonggo is people the language is hiligaynon

Technically, ilonggos are the people of Iloilo and the language is hiligaynon but informally, people use both interchangeably.

@@jchavez1431 oh thanks for the info! I really still need to learn a lot!

But some people will disagree with the informal usage so better stick to technicalities. 😄

@@staffordshire16 let me add also that there are two major languages spoken in Iloilo - hiligaynon and kinaray-a, so using the term "Ilonggo" interchangeably with "Hiligaynon" is somewhat confusing. 😁

Ka swerte ninyo uy,naay Pina Spanish jud ba ay.

Wow, glad to meet Filipino polyglot here..What languages are those?..

And I can't even speak Ibanag properly, even though I'm surrounded by Ybanags

I'm 100% Cebuano, a language enthusiast too. I speak fluently in Central Bicol, Ilocano and Hiligaynon. I can communicate as well in Kapampangan, Waray, Tausug, Butuanon, Mandaya and Higaonon ( One Of Manobo Languages )..

@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 same😭

ALAMAT SLAYYY sa that some left the group and not much mix content recently, hopefully therell be more soon but other wise they seriously are underrated and they need to be known more man

Hiii Magiliw! 🤎 Same I'm more exposed to different PH languages because of Alamat!

Magiliw! 🤎🔥

Same same same! I got it all right because of Alamat hahahah. Hello po co-Magiliw!

Haha. Nice, nagtagpo tagpo tayo dito.

"inilaklako ka idan, madi mo pay ammu"

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languages*

You wouldn't identify them. You don't even know whats the difference between dialects and languages.

the comments here are aggresive 💀 chill

@@seurn7801 Regionalism at its finest

Yes technically because both have the same tone and diction, however, there are terms/words that are spoken exclusively in Iloilo, thus differentiating the two.

that makes sense actually

Yes, considering majority of the Hiligaynon-speaking populations in Mindanao are migrants from Panay. My great grandfather (brother of my maternal great-grandmother) was one of those said migrants. I have relatives around Soccsksargen Region.

is it called hiligaynon in panay island?

@@karinvasu3005 if you ask people in Panay island they would usually say Ilonggo instead of Hiligaynon.

Thea Rivera, you should not be embarrassed because you're one (including me) of the 95% or more Pinoys who cannot identify and/or speak the 185 Dialects of our Country. How can the people living in the Tagalog and Ilocos Regions understand the Dialects of the Visayas and Mindano and vice-versa? Even Linguists will have a hard time learning it. How much more Foreigners.

@@chattcedric6321 Ah, my pardons, but those vernaculars are classified as languages, not dialects!

@@PunoNgBuhay I and Google already explained that regional languages are distinguised and/or defined as DIALECTS. And apart from the different regional languages called Dialects come the LINGUA FRANCA widely spoken as LANGUAGE. But if you insist I respect that. But if you want to widen your knowledge and not by self speculating, why not check Google or any Encyclopedia available. BTW, those I explained by Google are not mine, I just copied/pasted it for documented proof. If you want me and others to believe you, pls show some concrete proof. It's hard to argue without proof. Otherwise, we ended up "Agreed to Disagree". Got my point?

@@chattcedric6321 Ah, my sincerest pardons, but I don’t believe we’ve spoken before. Furthermore, though I understand that you only wish to explain your stance, I would like to say that there is no need to be this aggressive about it. That aside, yes, that definition of “dialect” does exist, but it’s actually quite a political and arguably discriminatory definition that unfortunately still exists, usually as a way to undermine regional languages and their speakers and to give power to state languages. It's usually a way for the state to homogenize the country by stamping out ethnolinguistic groups. Yes, a lingua franca is a language/vernacular used for communication amongst speakers of different languages, but it doesn’t just have to be at a national level: there are multiple regional lingua francas across the world, and while somewhat related, a vernacular being a lingua franca isn’t a requirement for it to be a language. Here’s a discussion of this topic from a professor: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6mVmKRnppqmc3k.html

it's okayyyyy you are awesome

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@@vipjacq as someone said above "all dialects are languages, but languages aren't dialects". that's why she said Visayan dialects because some of the languages spoken in the video were dialects, dialects are also languages remember. "@chatt cedric Yes, reading the definitions 2 and 3 aligns with what I see as the difference between a language and a dialect. Dialect as a variety of language: True. Tagalog has many varieties and it differs by province. Ilocano has two major varieties. Cebuano also has a couple of its own local varieties. Dialect as a form of a language spoken by a smaller group: Also true. Batangas Tagalog is a local form of Tagalog from Batangas. Boholano is a local form of Cebuano in Bohol. Those two examples are dialects of their respective langauges."

@@markpaulpangan7618 +1 ka po sakin. In fact, they speak bacolodnon-hiligaynon dialect, zamboangeño-chavacano dialect, sentral bikol dialect (?), samareño-waray dialect, and cebu-cebuano dialect.

@@markpaulpangan7618 i think you're confused. while yes, all dialects are languages, that's not what OP is implying in their original post. they're implying na the visayan languages featured like cebuano, hiligaynon and waray-waray ARE ONLY dialects when in fact, it can be both. kaya kinorrect na it's visayan languages* and hindi dialects.

@@dammma well the OP didn't say any of that, you just assumed that

The north is just Ilocano. Are there other languages in the north? I'm not sure if Kalinga have their own language. The south has more varied languages from Maguindanao, Maranao, Tausug, etc.

Visayan not that the same maybe if you hear same words spoken by other visayan languages it's from a cebuano language

@@wavemaker2077 ilocano,kapampangan,pangasinense, Igorot languages, ybanag are the northern Philippine languages.

But us hiligaynons can also understand a little bit of bicolano and a lot more for Sorsoganon because it's also visayan.

Ikr? Should have included Kapampangan. That is such a distinct Philippine-based language on its own. None of those other Filipinos will understand Kapampangan at all. They probably wouldn’t even recognize or be able to guess Kapampangan if they heard it. Atin kang malan a masanting? Aku, ala ku. Pero atin kung salol na marakal busbus a mabilug. O nanu, bisa kang mangan keni o keta? Ba, kapamu na pen. Minatut ka?

Even if they see a negrito, he might be speaking in either Kapampangan, Pangasinense, Tagalog or Ilocano. They still have to guess the language just the same.

wow this is very informative for me as I've always thought speakers from both Iloilo and Bacolod are speaking Ilonggo and that Ilonggo and Hiligaynon are used interchangeably as they are both the same and exact language.

@@hwana-xq9gy yeah often times tourists kind of confused it at first, but Ilonggo actually refers to the group of people native in Iloilo while Hiligaynon is the language that we speak. In Iloilo, if someone says he/she can speak "Ilonggo" mostly or chances are the mistake will be ignored since Ilonggos seem to be fine with it since it's in Iloilo anyway. However if you go to other Hiligaynon-speaking areas like Bacolod, Sultan Kudarat, and other areas in the South, you'll be corrected, this is because the regional identities are still strong, and people are proud of their origin and culture. For them Ilonggo is an identity and the language is Hiligaynon which is actually correct. I can understand the confusion of the visitors coming to our place this is because unlike Cebuano, the same term can used for both identity and language, unless you are from the south, where you may be speaking Cebuano but you could be Davaoeño or Cagay-anon.

The accent and the pacing of how he talks at first i thought he was speaking Karay-a but some of the words give it away.

Ilonggo is not only used to call people who are natives of Iloilo. It is more right to say that Ilonggo is the term for people who are using Hiligaynon as their mother tongue because if Ilonggo is only for Iloilo natives then we, Ilonggos who are not natives of Iloilo, don't have a name? Hiligaynon is the language and Ilonggo is the term for the people. The Hiligaynon in Iloilo and the Hiligaynon in other areas of the Philippines are dialects under the same language. People used Ilonggo and Hiligaynon interchangeably and are getting used to it so we don't take an extra mile to correct them.

@@binsoy728 I won't be confident to say "Ilonggo is the term for the people who are using Hiligaynon as their mothertongue." although this is somewhat correct. Despite having Hiligaynon as their first language, you'll never hear people from Negros Occidental refer to themselves as Ilonggo, especially around Bacolod area, it's always Negrense or Bacolodnon, unless a person is born in Iloilo and migrated to Negros. It's like saying we should call Davaoeño and Cagayanon people, Cebuano because it is also their mothertongue. It's actually pretty simple, if you're born and raised in Iloilo, then you are Ilonggo, if you are not, but speak Hiligaynon and have been living in the area for some time, then you are free to consider yourself as such. I do admit that it would have been better had I put "Peope living in Iloilo", rather than using the word "Native". While I do agree that more and more people are getting used to interchanging Hiligaynon and Ilonggo, it's not always the case, and I'd rather use Hiligaynon for it's more appropriate.

proud Waray din,,Taga diin ka ha Samar?

Yeah but we mainly use the usa-duha-tulo when we talk about quantity and use the spanish when it comes to pricing

Yes cebuano language has more of a Spanish words and mix with Malay since the spanish came to the Philippines when Magellan first set foot in cebu and the first Spanish settlement in Cebu and during that time the natives originates from Malays so the language are mix that is called cebuano

Thank you! I thought it was pretty interesting:)

patalon

And I think he's from rinconada. He said "Maray na aldaw" instead of "Marhay na aldaw".

Kaya nga eh cebuano ako pero ganong mag bilang ang mga bicolano parang hindi bicolano ang lalake

We also count that way (uno, dos, tres, etc) in my town in Catanduanes same with Northern part so he’s still correct. Some town in our province count “saro, duwa, tulo, etc” specifically the southern part of Catanduanes.

We also count that way (uno, dos, tres, etc) in my town in Catanduanes same with Northern part so he’s still correct. Some town in our province count “saro, duwa, tulo, etc” specifically the southern part of Catanduanes.

If you know Waray and Bisaya I think it's easy to learn Hiligaynon.

Mine is minus Waray... Also currently living in Cebu It sucks knowing just 3 languages...

Nice.

I knew it was hiligaynon the moment i heard "to". Simply the language filled with endearments. He can also hide the lambing in his voice.

The Biggest Confusion of most Cebuano speaking people in Cebu, Mindanao, and Dumaguete is that almost all of them think that Cebuanos are the only Bisaya people, and almost all of them think that Bisaya is the Cebuano language which is totally False. This is like hijacking Bisaya term away from other Bisaya people like the Hiligaynons, Karay-a, Aklanon, Waray, etc and depriving them of the Bisaya identity.

Bisaya is actually Visayas, the region or location. Cebuanos, illongos, and Waray2x live in the Visayas. 😂 They won't understand each other once the deep words are used. 😂

Te amo❤

Wen! Kasta met awan ti love ti ilokano 😭😭😭