you may like predator 1 and 2 for similer reasons to the first two terminator films.

@The Closer Look You're way late with this video, compared to other youtubers, but.. you still managed to add various interesting points. Good job 👍

Hi

@@phaolo6 ( *Edited* )

The pitch is far better than what we got. It serves as a good foundational start point to build up from.

Yes, but also imagine how George must feel...

@@davet9820 george doesn't give a shit about anything he didn't make

@@davet9820 Lol are you insane? Have you seen what George Lucas did to the movies lol? Dude destroyed the original prints even!

@@keithsimpson2685 Lol what are you talking about you are out of line

I honestly wish he would have told them to piss off if they wouldn't at least consider what he had to say about Luke.

If he's somewhat responsible for the Death Star, then it's millions or billions!

More like genoside

@behind you the entire point of the films is that all sides are retards the redemption is just a side thing, because there the universe works on binary karma - actions don't "stack"

@behind you Because he overthrew an evil force in the galaxy, saving millions if not billions in the years to come. If you don't believe in redemption you should judge yourself for eternity for all the sins you have committed in your life. That cookie you stole? There was a time when they chop your hand for that.

@@WayTooClose For Death Star are responsible Grand Moff Tarkin and Bevel Lemelissk.

It's okay, it's never the end of the world. Maybe one of us in the comments section or even me could possibly try rebooting the entire sequel trilogy in the late future, only near my early 20s btw. The only problem would be different castings, but it's not like I'm talking about the original trilogy. It's just that I've been lately learning so much about writing craft. :)

@@talanodeaFunny how you say that you are learning about writing when your comment is so poorly written.😂😂😂

@@goehoviewer I have only been learning to write for a few months, I follow this underrated channel Writer Brandon McNulty, & such useful content he has. His channel is more about story writing, rather than grammar, & grammar was always my weakness.

Also, I wasn’t trying to perfect my first comment, just getting my point across, the subscriber would understand.

@@talanodea Yeah i can tell that grammar is your weakness tbh.

Nah, the worst phrase is when you're arguing with them and winning the argument because you have a good point, and they say "It's my house..."

Haha, I knew I should have looked for this first. 😝

The Closer Look True.

@@TheCloserLook That's basically Rian Johnson. "It's my movie ..."

Melkor You know you’re doing something right when Morgoth Bauglir agrees with you.

Truly is his father's son

@@lavish263team5 Hey his father killed everyone EXCEPT his relatives. That's where he drew the line.

@@Dark6997 Parmesan though? Edit: *PADME* though?

@@a_stranger_loop Well I mean his blood relatives. Plus she died of a broken heart quite different than dying from getting stabbed by a lightsaber

@@a_stranger_loop lmao

Same... I didn't realize this video had an alternate plot from the title. Sure, maybe the details aren't perfect (how could we expect that from one guy) but the overarching theme is just so good... clearly different from the previous entries but with so many callbacks, world building, etc. Amazing that one good writer could come up with something this good but all of Lucasfilm created what we got.

@@justinberlage6701You can thank the disney plague for that

I'm going to believe this video

If a Disney exec were to see this, the one thing I would absolutely love and go crazy for is a clone wars style animation of an alternative timeline/alternate universe or what if sequel trilogy following this story. However the excuse goes, maybe connecting bits from legends. The point being I would love to see this regardless and i think animated would make the most sense.

grow. up. read. a. book. you. pleib.

You kids ain't going anywhere by spamming this lolol

Reminds me a bit of a story from kotor 2. Mandalore tells it.

whos the girl at the beginning? 15 minutes in and he still hasn't mentioned her, yet ive seen her over a dozen times??

⁠@@tronnorth726 What? Are you on the wrong comment or something?

Accurate. Definitely accurate. I actually like Force Awakens as a fun movie, but... it is too safe. That is certainly true. I don't really like The Last Jedi; it's a bold and original but failed attempt. So yeah, too bold. I don't like The Rise of Skywalker at all. It's a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt-yup, too desperate to win fans over. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like The Last Jedi far more than The Rise of Skywalker. A bold and original but failed attempt is much more interesting than a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt. They both suck, but I would willingly rewatch The Last Jedi any day over The Rise of Skywalker. At least none of them are as bad as the snore-fest that is Attack of the Clones. Edit: it looks like people don’t understand that this is my opinion and there’s really nothing that will change my mind here. Especially nothing about Attack of the Clones; you could not pay me money to sit through it again.

@@andrewheaney4874 I legit love Attack of the Clones. The bad dialogue is hilarious and I love watching it with my family to make fun of.

@@lonebattledroid4474 Nice. If you like it good for you. I just cannot find anything to be enjoyed in it. I can for Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, both of which in my opinion are much better than TLJ, Solo, and TROS. And even Rogue One to an extent (which is massively overrated in my opinion) You could not pay me money to sit through Attack of the Clones again. Sorry if that offends prequel fans. I’m a massive fan of the Clone Wars show though!

@@andrewheaney4874 no problem. You're way more respectful than how other fans use to act when I told them I liked the prequels. The one good thing about the Sequel trilogy was because they were so universally hated other fans went back and sorta in a sense forgave the Prequels and now PT and OT fans live in harmony.

@@lonebattledroid4474 I enjoy the prequels too. They're not perfect but I also think that there is a lot of bandwagon hate on those films.

Exactly Luke was good and forgiving and kind. And they trashed his character arc

One of the stupidest arguments is that he did it in instinct

It was supposed to act as a night light against the nightmare.

@@thatoneroyalguard7060 If he HADN'T ignited the lightsaber, but just reached for it when he sensed the darkness and Kylo wakes up to see Luke with his hand on his saber staring at him in fear it could work. But igniting the lightsaber and preparing to strike? Ridiculous

@@RandomMagus yep

Somehow... Morgoth has returned

oh the blue wizards as well

I can't be happier that Tolkien wrote appendices, which goes 250 years into period after Return of the King, so no one can destroy Lotr same way they destroyed Star Wars.

@@lukasopalka3396 Disney would declare all that non canon and then cherry pick the bits they liked.

Lukas Opalka We had the EU which were considered canon before the Dark Times. Before Disney.

So true :/

For real!! I definitely got emotional for this one

I'm almost in tears now. So much better than what we got, it's unbelievable.

Same here

Same for me

Damn really?! I thought it was cringe inducing

AI? You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Abrams and Johnson could ever be. You don't care about art or work or even gratitude. You only care about consuming good content, regardless of effort or human soul. Do fucking better.

Me too...smile

wun word: woke

AI?... You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Rian and Abrams could ever be. You don't care about creating a good story or even the effort put into a good story. You only care about consuming a good story. Do better. And I know either you or YT hid my last comment, but I will not be discouraged.

I absolutely hated how Disney wasted a great idea and an interesting character.

I remember when Finn was gonna be a Jedi I rather see him as a Jedi than Rey I can take Rey seriously

Well said Abraham Lincoln

just like real life!

You really are honest Abe

I cried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.

Bruh I got more emotion out of the Taco Bell ad I just got than the whole sequel trilogy

Yeah just listening to him simply _tell_ his story is more enjoyable than actually _watching_ the real films.

i got more emotion out of anakins sand line than every single Disney star wars film combined

No joke

This is the most well-known of the Jedi rules. Love leads to attachment and attachment leads to strong emotions, which are the path to the Dark Side of the Force. Because of this, Jedi are forbidden to fall in love.

I enjoyed the prequel trilogy despite its issues and I enjoyed TFA but after watching TLJ and ROS, I feel like TFA was only "good" to me out of nostalgia sense. It felt good seeing the characters we all loved again and what happened after the trilogy ended.

Um marvel ?

@@Coolguy-mk7hg Not everything marvel does is right. Look at Captain Marvel, Iron Man 3, Thor, The first Avenger, and The Eternals

@@vise_atoxity8083 iron man 3 is amazing, watch cosmonaut variety your if you don’t believe me

Hour*

@spooky katt from all angles i'm afraid too

@spooky katt I’m not sure what bad sequels and reboots have to do with the fall of Western Civilization other than that we keep electing increasingly-delusional celebrities into office for some reason (i.e. Ronald Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo, Donald Trump from that one scene in Home Alone 2, and lest we forget Kanye West’s quixotic attempt at qualifying for this current election during one of his manic phases...), but I do agree that Hollywood is basically one big high school clique that was basically impossible to join in if you don’t have last names like Stallone or Banks or Disney, even when the economy was doing well...

Jeffrey Thrash if you were to dive deep into the events that mainstream television does NOT report on, then you’d find that those “celebrities” (trumps a business man far more than he is a celebrity) are far more fit at running for president then the ones that look the part. You can either have criminals and traitors who do all sorts of messed up stuff and whose corruption knows no limits orrr you can choose the political outsiders who don’t know how to conduct themselves presidentially yet are very successful at running a country, even if you never hear about it in television.

@@philipseitz95 Thanks for the giggles. Do you honestly expect me to do a complete 180 with my opinion this close to a major election by using the same meaningless Fox News talking points from 2016? Speaking of Fox News, it’s the most popular TV news network on cable and now owned by Disney after the Fox merger, similar to Star Wars here, meaning Fox News is the very definition of “mainstream television.” Nice try pretending to be a free-thinker, again, it would have actually fooled me prior to the 2016 election. Finally, thank you for answering my question as to why people keep voting increasingly delusional and out-of-touch celebrities into extremely important government positions. It sounds like the people that think millionaires and billionaires who didn’t even really have to work for their money would even be capable of sympathy for less-fortunate Americans are pretty delusional and out-of-touch themselves. Good day.

well said. great story arc. It is very sad that the Sequel died trough the egos of two directors and the lack of a good story arc for the triology by disney

Tbhat is an insult to fanfiction

@@TeylaDex agreed. Every other fan fiction I saw was better than the sequels

@@lordrevan5601 yep. I mean, theres also a lot of objectively bad fanfiction out there, but even those brought joy to at least the author. So they have still more worth than the new trilogy.

But JJ and Rian clearly arent fans of star wars so it cant be a fan fic

@@clearedmammal5874 exactly.

The worst part is that every interview mark has had about the sequel trilogy is like that. You can see the pain every time, and you can practically feel him holding his tongue when it comes to the shit that upset him. Like how he is straight up complaining how they arent aiming for the fans, and everyone starts clapping like its a good thing and he just gives up. Like no one was even listening to him in that room.

@@jamiesadf5829 Yeah break mine heart also. As child to grew with WS universe. Indeed. Just pure despair.

Hamill always looks sad, always has. He's got resting sad face.

@@jamiesadf5829 I'd put money on there being a "clap now" light flashing to make the audience clap

Everything is going as I have forseen

underrated comment tbh

Is he going to analyse this video? I feel that it would have been nice to have some more characters to connect emotionally to.

People have written doctoral theses on Shakespeare plays that would take like 20 hours to read.

@@deriznohappehquite I mean cinema is just our more modern day version of stage plays, basically. So it makes sense. Though usually the Shakespeare essays are praising his work, not tearing it apart limb from limb.

@@randomcommenter7343 well, most of Shakespeare's work is actually good and worthy of praise

They didnt even understand what he was talking about.

All they saw of what he said was the "you go girl do your own thing" type message and they loved it 🤢

For some reason, I can see Joker feeling insulted.

Anyone have the link? I’ve seen it once before but I wanna see it again and can’t find it

Oh no! Luke didn't do what you wanted or act the way you wanted him to? After how many years? Holy shit! It's almost like he's supposed to be a human being! Weird! Jesus Christ grow the hell up.

I was going to give you a like, but it's at a perfect 66 right now. 😆 now I can give you a like

The moment Mark the guy who played Luke Skywalker one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema, voiced a single complaint about Episode 8 I gave up on Star Wars, Disney ruined it.

I didn’t make it past Rogue One (which I thought wasn’t too bad) but without George, these films are just a parody.

Fr idk if it’s cuz it’s 4 am for me but I almost cried cuz of how much better it was and I realized that mark wouldnt act that story out and instead it would just be the joke it is now

Good you’ll lose ur humanity when u watch those films

and somehow... the sequels are still 10 times better the the prequels

@@royalkingdom2801 The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

@@AlexanderTheBloodraven very original mate

@@royalkingdom2801 Oh, so you want me to start listing off the facts? Well, okay, then: The Star Wars prequels definitely had problems, mainly in the fact that George Lucas was mainly thinking about the child audience when he was making the trilogy. This led to the creation of Jar Jar, who mainly just came off as annoying and unnecessary rather than comic relief. There is also the fact that the dialogue in the trilogy is more dramatic and ‘poetic’ than the Original Trilogy, which led to some important lines coming off as comedic rather than being dramatic or romantic. That being said, the story of the Prequels is amazing. The worldbuilding is made in breathtaking detail and provides amazing context for the entire franchise. The plot tells the tragic story of how Anakin became Darth Vader in amazing storytelling and allows you to understand Anakin’s turn to the dark side completely. Meanwhile, the Sequels can BARELY be called a trilogy or a story at all. Each of the movies were made by different directors who both had different plans for how the trilogy would end. Every time they made a movie, they did not even build their story from the plan that the previous film set up and instead made up their own plan as they went, which ended up causing the themes of each movie completely contradict each other. For example, The Force Awakens was basically just a remake of A New Hope, with a fancier Death Star. All it did was basically try to build a new story that tried to appeal to the Original Trilogy, however, instead of trying to build A New Story off of the Original Trilogy, they basically just tried to copy everything from more iconic films to try and look appealing, instead of coming up something new and original. However, The Last Jedi has the exact opposite problem. It tries to make a story that was new and original, but instead of building the story off of the legacy of the Original Trilogy’s characters and accomplishments, they essentially try to make every single one of our favorite past characters look as pathetic as possible so that they can new characters look better. Luke’s entire character was completely ruined by this movie, because he turned into the exact opposite of who he was. He went from a brave, determined Jedi to a cowardly, pathetic hermit who wouldn’t even leave the planet he was on to save his own sister and the Rebellion. These are just a few of the countless problems that the Sequels stupidly created. Let’s get into the characters shall we? First off, Rey is a terrible protagonist. From the very first part of the trilogy, she has NO character development. Absolutely NONE. Her abilities in the Force are not attained through hard work and determination, but are just GIVEN to her by the writers for no other reason than to make her overpowered. And it’s not just the Force they made her overpowered with. They made her win EVERY SINGLE LIGHTSABER DUEL SHE’S EVER HAD. The first time, literally the FIRST TIME, she ACTIVATED a lightsaber, she went up against a guy who had been trying with the Force and his lightsaber his ENTIRE LIFE, despite having NO training with any blade-like weapon of any kind. And she WINS. The first time that both Luke and Anakin fought in a lightsaber duel, even though they had trained their asses off, they got their asses handed to them. Because of course they did. Both the opponents they were facing were significantly more experienced and powerful than they were. The point of that was that both of them eventually overcame their struggles and grew more skilled as time progressed. But Rey didn’t overcome any struggles, because she was never defeated. She was already made the most powerful character by the begining of the trilogy through nothing else but 10 inches thick plot armor. There are countless other problems in the Sequels. So many that I can’t even get into the full number of them without turning this reply into an entire book. The Prequels definetly weren’t perfect, but they were definetly better than a dumb story that MAKES NO SENSE and ruins every single one of our favorite past characters. The fact that you are actually trying to say that the Prequels were WORSE than this garbage makes me wonder if you’ve actually watched Star Wars at all.

@Anne O'Nymous ayo I watched that last week lol

Meesa make yousa with genetic engendering

@@gorg6151 this made me giggle

okay, that'd be a top tier shitpost that'd have me laughing for a solid 10min until I release they're being serious.

@@gorg6151 "Yousa knows what theysa says abouts males with lengthy tongues?" *Tongue wave*

or I'd probably believe that I was trippin' on something. lmao

Forget mark hamill he's a bad actor and Harrison Ford carried the franchise

Powerless? He made Luke who he is and there's no one else on Earth who could play that role. He had all the power to stop it, he could have stopped production by quitting halfway through and forced a rewrite.

@@secretsocietyofschnauzers then they would have just CGI him into the movie and he wouldn’t have gotten paid irl.

@@matthewhelm7069 Harrison Ford not only took a massive dump on his Han Solo character, he will ruin Indiana Jones even more in the upcoming feminazi Indy flick. He "carried" nothing in those Disney abominations of Star Wars. He's a grumpy old fart.

@@Ricardo-cl3vs fair enough

NGL same honestly

I don’t even know the names of any of the planets that were blown up

@@superninja493 I dont think we were told, what these planets are called...

@@Hibbedat Exactly, I know it was just one planet destroyed in A New Hope but Tarkin said that Alderaan was being destroyed

so did the fucking filmmakers

It gave me chills

I even cried a little

I shed a fuckin' tear at the end of the new script pitch. God damn it, Disney...

Agreed. I hope this can replace the last 3 movies.

It was almost the catharsis I needed.

just one sign he had no idea what was going on

no fucking chance he would

I see you don't understand Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

@@cerebrophage7709 From what? Nothing bad happened BEFORE he tried to kill his nephew... sure hiding away after the incident and the temple being burnt down makes some sense.

@@1001History the kind of confrontation and what he had to do with his father and what vader did and how vader did it, and what luke had to do to his father might be a bit traumatizing. Being someone who struggles with PTSD myself, this makes complete sense to me: nearly abandoning ones convictions to protect yourself and others. Not only this, he realized in that moment he was about to repeat the same path his father took. Edit: further, PTSD blocks out your memories and leaves only the intense feelings there and specific stimuli that trigger those memories as a warning system. The summary you give in your post is a summary of what Luke confessed summary. We don't have the full story, just Luke's and Ben's brief recounting of events. No context, nothing. Just a sixty second retelling.

Huzzah, a pundit of quality.

So say we all!

I didn't know you were so into Star Wars Joey. You are a multi dimensional character.

Isn't that the beauty of imaginative fiction? Being able to choose how you want the story to end, rather than some corporation?

@@wyatteichholz3139 Joey salads is certainly not quality

yeah i feel the same way. It reminds me of Lucas' face when he signed star wars over to Disney. they both look so disappointed, ashamed and completely aware compared to Disney/Rian Johnson.

I think he purposely let his feelings show, if subtly. Only thing he could do without acting against the contract, I suppose.

@@chav3136 Well Lucas could have ya know, said no, you’re not having my creation. He’s no right to look disappointed or ashamed whilst he was willingly signing it over to them.

@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle yeah true. I just think he looks really regretful that's all but youre right. Disney might have given him loads of promises that sounded good at the time and he said yes but regretted later. Idk 🤷‍♀️

He didn't betray his own fans--we asked (demanded) that he play in this new trilogy, assuming the trilogy would be good...and then Hamill got his script for The Last Jedi and was now obligated to comply. You can tell he had many pleas with Johnson to consider the fans, and Johnson--being an arrogant dick--refused to listen. That's why I love Mark Hamill and freakin' hate Johnson.

I saw someone literally trying to defend Luke attempting to kill Kylo in his sleep by saying, "Well it's different, and it's not HIS story, it's Rei's story." Like, seriously? Who cares if it's Rie's story, Luke should still act like Luke. Then again, he also was moved to tears at Leia floating herself back onboard the ship from deep space.

​@@LWolf12 let's just say that sequels ate not canon

@@basedhalo I'll agree to that.

​@@basedhalo Tbh, none of the star wars movies are a napoleonic war era cannon (Dont sue me, I get the difference, put that gun down STOP-)

Seems like a reasonable reaction to working with teens TBH /s

this is basically mase windu lol

Sad part is, it wouldn't matter if we did. Star Wars is owned by disney and while yes they are greedy mfers, they are also unapologetic control freaks. Even if he bought the licensing rights to produce something they'd tear it apart and stitch it back together so gruesomely nobody would recognize it. For all some of my friends talk about 'the importance of copyright cause otherwise anybody could just sell horrible shit with your name on it and you could do nothing about it'... there's only one company allowed to make star wars now and they are making horrible shit with its name on it and nobody can do anything about it.

I agree; mostly. The story was so epic, I actually got chills. But the Yu Hang Wan part needs improvement. It's as if they were a main part of the first movie, then sidelined, and were finally gone. But the rest was incredible.

get elon musk on board we will have a better story in no time

we don’t need a billion dollar budget, just someone with animating skills and a whole lot of time

@Alexander Asher how could you tell?

Building? Nah, it is more of a poorly made carbon copy.

@@liaml.e.5964 More of a cheap knockoff made in some sweatshop.

Yep

i think that will go down as one of the biggest issues, and TFA having literally ZERO things happen, just expecting the next film to carry the entire story from a start point where there's literally 2 hours of filler

I actually answered all the question's as he is possibly smugging to himself thinking that he found some refutable evidence. Except that all these questions have been ansered in the FIRST movie. for example. Is the first order a small faction or a large faction? Small faction. Stated in the first movie of the sequal trilogy. Why didn't they built a navy instead of starkiller? Limited resources. So they decided to built one death canon that soaks up energy from the sun instead of creating new energy and deliver that first blow in a desperate attempt to destroy the enemy. Why didn't the New republic do anything? The new republic didn't want another war and only saw the first order as a fringe group. All of the question he so smugly spouts can be explained. Yes explained poorly with not much logic placed into them. But they CAN be answered.

Y E S

Exept for rogue one tbh

Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams do love Star Wars. Loving the franchise is not a guarantee of quality. It also requires hard work, solid planning, and adaptability. The people making sequel trilogy definitely lacked the latter two.

@@magnusprime962 and they were just two children playing in a 4 billion dollar sandbox fighting over who got the dump truck

I must say I haven't seen season 2 but still I might doubt. Roque one is also a star wars movie and it's tbh the best star wars movie released beside the OG trilogy

:)

I Icried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared. And Kylo has to try and make her see that she should follow her own path instead of staying with her evil mother. The only comparison I can make is Zuko and Iroh but this is obviously way different.

@@TheCloserLook You are very proficient in the art of the storytelling, my dear friend, but sadly I can only wish you the best there is for you, I knew why I subscribed, and now more than ever know why I stayed with your content, even though I never aspired to be a writer/director, you always pitch me a little closer to finally try to do something that is truly mine, and for that, I am truly grateful, thank you :)

you're not alone I cried too

Yes, that was beautiful, the end scene would have been great

"The most beloved *non-animated* sequel of all time" Fixed

Please because I thought the same

I thought the dark knight

I swear I could see Shaffrillas sweating when he mentioned a perfect Sequel

@@cogahan3105 me too 😅

Please

wdym this is the sequel trilogy

That’s what I’ve been doing for months 😂

I really hope someone in Disney step up and says "let's pretend than never happened" and restarts the sequels. Yeah, I know how bad everyone thinks of Disney, but they do have some nice films and cartoons. Oh, and dont let J J Abrams film anything important

yes

Let us watch him lose his mind for several hours due to the stupidity of Disney.

Aditya Singh sigh the sequels ruined the prequels and the original trilogy and we need people like him losing their minds

Ardent Gamer no Disney just don’t understand star wars

The story he told at the later 3rd of the video was nice

All Disney understands is Star Wars = Profit

Sad thing about not reverting Han into a scoundrel is it isn't as fun and interesting.

@@falshion1837 Think how much scoundrel tricks he could use as an Alliance General. He could be the disliked one, the "honourless", yet effective... Imagine Han Solo devising the "ramming" plan, and telling everyone on the room "but i will not be piloting"... (while Akbar step up).

Erico Schroeder interesting!

Question: Who thinks Obi wan should've been the protagonist for the Prequels (so the gut punch of a protagonist becoming evil was lesser)?

Agreed. I differ with Closer Look that they did Han any favors and semi well. Disney and JJ went out of their way to destroy the Han we knew and loved. Dead beat dad, slipped back to being a low level smuggler (and incompetent one at that), lost the Falcon somehow, etc. All of which happened without explanation. It's clear Disney and JJ were desperate to spike the OT characters to push their inferior ones instead of having a natural progression, mentorship, and hand off. Oh who am I kidding? At this point we all know Disney did not have an outline or over arching plan for the sequel trilogy

Let the past die. I totally agree lol this guy has some great ideas

Kill it if you have too

Every time i see that scene of the fleet being destroyed by 1 single ship jumping in the hyperspace, my heart bleeds

@@raf.nogueira same! It totally breaks cannon, and how the heck do they all split perfectly down the center? I’d get it if the center one did and the others were pushed away but it’s so illogical it hurts

Just put it in legends lol

Yes both JJ and Rian had a vision but the death of Fisher kinda messed most of their plan

Lol to imply that they didn’t have huge massive budgets (for their time) for ESB and ROTJ is ignorant af

@@deadshot5007 Rian had a vision of showing his activism in support of identity politics and shitting on george lucas by destroying his creation at the same time as Rian does not give a shit about maintaining the sandbox of someone else when given it to play in. JJ had a vision of racking in tons of cash in merchandising by just minorly changing everything so that it is his property so he gets the merchandising money instead, just like he attempted with Star Trek. Sure the death of Fisher threw wrenches into a number of things, but as it happened during The Last Jedi's production run a couple reshoots and have Leia die instead of going mary poppins would have solved the issue.

Astoundingly, too much money has made a trainwreck of MANY films. It seems to erase creativity, copykill and make directors and execs rely on effects and CGI.

@@saymyname2417 that's the problem with today's movie unfortunately. Movie nowadays is treated like products & they have to in order to justify their cost so they can appease their shareholders. The problems with blaming the failure of star wars on individual like KK or JJ is ignoring the elephant in the room.

I don't really like the sequels, but his fan fiction is... well, it's your average convoluted fan fiction. It has cool ideas, but I don't think it would work as an actual movie trilogy, at all

Well, he's but one of the plethora of fan fiction writers who wrote better story than Disney. That's not much of an achievement, in all honesty.

Right Jar, Jar was a horrible character. Oh wait, I forgot we are pretending Lucas didn't kill it with 1-3.

@@meoff7602 What are you talking about, Jar Jar was a great character! You wish Disney "sequels" had characters half as goof as Jar Jar

@@ambidexter2017 I have no clue what Disney did. I skipped the beating of the dead horse.

Ahsoka is better than all the sequel female characters.

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 I want to hate this heresy but I can't find a reason to disagree and I hate it.

You forgot that they actively reduced the non-white characters on asian promotional materials, proving that they really didn't care that much for diversity anyway.

How is Finn there to be be black? He's a useless character sure but its not like they tried to make social commentary about his race.

​@@gamblorrr Well that's pretty much the thing he is unlike any other clone before him, who are all pretty much the same as their "father" or "prime clone". But he has to be different for "diversity" reasons whilst adding pretty much nothing to the plot and being completely useless, that is pretty much the definition of being a token character, he's there just to be there and for no other reason at all. Not even for something like social commentary because in that case, he wouldn't be completely useless, but he's there just to be there, just to check a box, in the hope that for example someone like me would go "Hey that guy looks almost a bit like me, now I feel like I am included in the Star Wars universe, doesn't matter that he's a completely superficial and he's actually a lousy representation effort". It's just a very cheap ploy and actually having the opposite effect they hope for. If they wanted to do something to actually represent, they could at least have done a Lando, make a character with some actual personality, an arc and who is actually of importance to the plot.

He could have been a zuko. But noooo

I dont even know what kylo's goal was, take over the galaxy because vader kinda did that? Turn rey evil because power?

I would like more if Kylo just stayed and died as sith it would give a memorable lesson about that not everyone can be redemed.

@@kacperaskawski3461 After seeing the terrible way he died, I'd have to agree. On the other hand, he would go down as the worst sith in history.

@@pumkin610 yep but at least he wouldn't be just emo, discount Vader.

The prequels felt much more of a fantasy world, felt more like Star Wars. The sequels didn’t really do this.

Episode 3 was my favorite

Even with the issues with the prequels, they did greatly expand the world, generally very creative and builds up to the OT.

Like Coruscant was a FANTASTIC idea! In a fantasy epic where society is spread across different planets, it makes perfect creative sense that one of them has to be a central hub. And its made even better by the fact that Lucas didn’t just make it this shining metropolis, but he gave it its slums, and factories, and dinky corner-street diners 👌🏻

Same

Fans of Olde Mandalorians: "Weren't proper Mandalorians anyway."

@@undertakernumberone1 Statement: You show excellent logical skills... for a meatbag.

@@undertakernumberone1 oh yes

Obi-Wan: Your clone wars and David Filoni have already done that!

honestly at that point in the edited timeline mandalore would probably be it’s own faction that took over the remains of the hutt clan

I'm actually inclined to agree with you. The actors themselves weren't too bad(except the chick who played rei. She's so dumb).

@@liambrasier6590 its not Rei's actor's fault. Its the directors fault for not doing a retake of the scene. The actors all have acting as their profession, they are skilled enough to do it.

yeh i was feeling bad for the actors like daisy ridley. its not that i dont like her as an actor i just didnt like your character

Considering that multiple key actors are dead there's no fixing the lifetime fuckup of Kennedy and crew.

@@liuxoB nah Daisy Ridley really isnt that good of an actor

Ok you got me there.

That was *his* mistake

I tought exactly the same thing.

Shrek 2 is great! That's how you do a sequel: a natural progression of the story/character arcs, more worldbuilding, new likable characters, villains with understandable motivations, and the same look and feel of the original.

@@akai1up And then follow it up with a disappointing third movie.

and all of them piss on our intelligence

tros also pisses on leias legacy making her out to be some great jedi instead of a politician but i mean i totally see her learning from luke as well so idk

for a second i thought TROS meant "the revenge of the sith" i was so confused

Disney: Pisses on George Lucas' legacy.

@@emmakielty5552 They screwed up Han too, regressing him so he's a smuggler and dead beat who runs away.

Ah yes a schaffrillas productions fan. I approve :)

Shrek 2 one of the best sequels. Shrek also a franchise that is continued to be talked about today.

The Dark Knight??!!

Terminator 2 Empire Strikes Back The Bride of Frankenstein The Dark Knight The Road Warrior No particular order, off the top of my head, but I think these right here are the elite sequels

Ryan Tiller The Godfather 2

omg that is what I thought too

Yea, Godfather 2 is some minor, bshit sequel. Shrek 😁

Schaffrillas is a religion

My mind went to Toy Story 2

The best thing is, Shrek 2 also falls into the same category he's talking about. It respects the original movie but expands on the themes and ideas of it.

Ik right

Just goes to show how far Disney has fallen. It is less than a shell of its former self,

@@pippleyfisching9214 they are so detached from the very fans they claim to pandering to.

Surprised Disney's not hired him yet XD

He still did a fantastic job.

He was hyped to be what Alec Guinness was to him so long ago. He knew obvious he’d be in the mentor role to the protagonist of this era, but that didn’t bother him. Think I remember he said he got himself into shape and the whole nine yards just to be given a 10 second cameo at the ass end of the force awakens. They really did him dirty. The scene of young him staring off into the two evening suns of Tatooine longing for something more than being a moisture farmer will forever the most iconic scene of the whole franchise to me.

Aww feel bad for the bad actor who gets fans groveling at his feet for participating in a shit movie. BTW he loves the films and hates fans that don't. Go read his tweeter.

@@BoleDaPole You are fake news. Hamill has NEVER said that. 1/10 for bad trolling because you have never read any of his tweets..(It's obvious to anyone who follows him you are full of it.)

Mark Hamill wasn't thrilled to do a sequel. He said "my out will be that Harrison is never going to agree to this".

Yes. Been telling people how Disney star wars is cringe

@@thepowerofthegodhand7003 you're not wrong! When The Force Awakens first came out I thought it was mediocre, but that it would just get better from there. But. It didn't.... Rey just DID NOT feel believable. She didn't even show signs, in my opinion, that she was a supposedly powerful force user. Choreography was garbage, even if Kylo was the only one that knew how to fight.

The craziest thing is, Finn was hinted to also have Jedi powers in the first film. I know that it would had been a stretch, but giving him some time to be allowed to take a Jedi weapon (he might have found) and just start using it throughout the films, and have it pay off later would be nice. We also do need Po, Finn, Rei, and Kylo to actually join up here or there in some episodes. Like have some moments with Po and Finn, but then later have Finn accompany Rei on missions, while Kylo and Po dog fight some enemies in space together. Then later have Finn and Kylo discuss their thoughts on the Order and if they have doubts while Po sees what is happening to Rei and tries to talk to her about it (which can be one of the many driving forces to have her look herself over in the mirror). This dynamic would help foster in some fun moments. Basically a majority of the cast would be in the villains shoes most of the time, which isn't common in Star Wars.

I've seen several plot pitches like this online from several different creators. It makes me wonder how in the HELL Disney dropped the ball on this with their nearly unlimited access to talent and resources. What a shit show.

For a sec, I thought you meant the channel JustSomeGuy.