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I agree, attachment is for the weak and pathetic.

Meanwhile -- modern woke "games" be like...

@@DEADGAMESINC They are almost clueless and arogant as the jedi. the modern woke game makers i mean.

@@user-yd4el3ts2e the irony here is unbelievable...

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It's a good observation. That the Dark Side isn't a carefully crafted war machine, but instead is a force of nature. Uncaring and relentless. I think that makes it scarier than any of fascist imagery the more recent films tried to ape.

Just like a continent-wide firestorm starts as a small flicker of flame in a bush, in the outback.

​@@headoverheels88I was going to say the imagery was always there. And then I saw the 88 in your name. And realized it wasn't worth it. The empire was always fascist man.

@@JustSomeLint First of all, weirdly aggressive. Get a life. Second of all, I know you're ancient but please know we have these things called "streaming services" where you can see movies, even the ones before you're born. Ask your grandkids to have it set it up for you. Third, the recent ones have gone over-board in the imagery in the way the first didn't. As someone with a political science degree from an ivy league who has had to study exactly this, I stand by that.

The best part about that line is that if you really do spend enough time with Kreia that really isn't a surprise in the slightest. It still.... Really hits. But Kreia is very upfront and transparent with you the entire time. You get to that line and you nod your head. You know it's true. But the shaping of your character, the journey you take working through all the details, and all the different positions in the game... You have still realized something profound along the way, even if things aren't so different from when you began.

@@onimaxblade8988 to me Kotor 2, especailly the end of it is the BEST Star Wars has to offer, i respect the legacy of GL, but Kotor is like a aged fine wine, it has everything that makes a good SW, but mixed with more mature themes and concepts, Nietzche isn't for kids, it's not the simple, good x evil, is far more complex than that, yet lots of kids love it.

A lesson all star wars fans should know.

​@@onimaxblade8988I don't think Kreia is up front and transparent with you, a lot of what she tells you are outright lies. The whole quest starts because of things she tells you, that turn out to be untrue. She manipulates you into doing what she thinks you need. It's only at the end, when she feels you've earned it, that she starts being clear.

I saw The Green Knight recently, and it exemplifies this line.

Very well put.

Kotor games are more smarter than i am, and i love them for it!

True, but you have to remember ideals might be stronger then the person who believes it. That means that just because you believe something to be true doesn't necessarily follow that the person who believes it simply doesn't have to inner strength or outer strength to make it a reality. To contradict Keira's quote, if a ideal seems to fail because it couldn't withstand external factors, does not necessarily follow that it's not true or worth believing in.

That's exactly what Darth Traya, the Lord of Betrayal, would say... trying to convince people to betray themselves and what they stand for. Like Sion's pain and Nihilus' hunger, it's just what she does.

@@Slowpoke3x every ideals that rely on non human beings wil fall because, if you want it to succeed this ideal must be reachable (willingly not under threads or big incentives) by at least a big minority of the people if not it will be crushed by reality very very quickly. Thats why communism will always fail.

Bro was spittin'

It is called Star WARS for a reason. Most of the wars are centered around the Jedi and sith, not just regular folk

@@MALICEM12 That's why their perspective is interesting. It adds depth to the universe. Makes it more compelling in my opinion.

I mean its not like its the jedi starting wars for their own interests, "most people in the galaxy" would be dead a hundred times over without them

@@alexanderlaird6206 you don't have to intentionally be a problem, to be a problem. Thus why kreia wanted to kill the force.

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Yeah, that video really needed a response; moreover, it needed THIS response. I’m so glad it’s in the world.

Kreia, also known by the fans as a deeply well written character. Unlike other ones who deepest trait is "I'm a girl".

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An Old Republic show needs to happen.

No kotor built on the prequels before the prequels which was totj

​@@TheCouch-Co-Op Needed.

Just not Disney please God no

@@TheCouch-Co-Op, word. Animate it like Clones Wars/Bad Batch, or spend mega-bucks on Live Action.

One of the most underrated videogame scores.

That Republic Commando theme his hard as well

Mandalorian Outpost goes hardest 🔥

Well stated 🤙

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@@TheCouch-Co-Op Just a heads up. His name is pronounced "Knee-Cha" not "Knee-Chee" :)

Indeed, if anything he was trying to understand and solve nihilism. Not adhere to it.

I read recently that Thoreau is often portrayed as rejecting people when he in fact loved visitors to his famed cabin- at which he only lived for two years. It seems that his goal wasn't to get away from people, but to get away from being part of the rat race and spend his precious time on the things he loved. (I'm not a philosopher or historian. It's just my understanding from recent articles.)

He came up with Nihilism to reject it to learn of his ideals to just stop at Nihilism is half-assing it. Which is what a lot of people do. If there's nothing more then MAKE more do well by people so when they do finally pass they had an amazing existence as they go into the void. Don't make life that very void for others because they deserve better.

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Something something Spiderman.

Good point. If anything this is maybe the failing of the Old Jedi Order, that even though they taught Jedi that all life is part of The Force they expected Jedi to both support life, and keep themselves separated from it so as to avoid being tempted to corrupted by it.

@@WickedPrince3D Serve the Force, but don't use it. Serve Life, but don't be in it. Essentially: don't be a force user and hide away. Be Mitraa Surik, the Exile. And since Surik is a hole in the force, this can extend to: be the death of the Force, be Kreya.

@@JerbilKonaiI think my opinion of Mitraa would differ from yours. But I'm not entirely sure what you are getting at here. If perhaps those first lines are your interpretation of the Jedi or if it's an alternate philosophy. Jedi did use the Force; they just didn't abuse it; force it to do THEIR bidding; use it against itself; etc, their approach was more passive. IMHO Mitraa wasn't a hole in the Force; she'd removed herself from it to save herself from Darkside corruption during Malachor V. Other Force Users didn't understand her, and couldn't sense her, but she was still there. She used others something like a blind-man's white cane to help tap out The Force so she could use it; while remaining somewhat distanced to protect herself from corruption. The Force Bond between Mitraa and Kreia for instance proves that Mitraa was present in the Force; but in a way that wasn't obvious to other Force Users. Additionally, I can't consider Mitraa a true hole in the Force when she was instrumental in re-creating the Jedi Order.

​@@WickedPrince3D One thing of note: I wasn't going for your opinion in particular, but rather what I got out of your post. So, sorry for the @ . It is hard to make a note where an idea originates in a thread and keep things stylisticly simple. I may have simplified things to make both "rules" similar sounding, but the expanded reasoning was: (Rules of the Jedi Order:) Serve the force, but don't use it (selfishly, otherwise you fall to the dark). Serve life, but don't be in it (for your own sake). From that I go for one extreme solution of those two rules: Don't use the force (don't be a force user) Don't let life happen to you (hide away) Both approaches are what Surik did before the events of KOTOR 2. And to be fair, even some of the other Jedi Masters (to a degree). The hole comment may have been me misremembering whether or not Kreya called Surik a hole or echo or if the monicer hole was meant for Darth Nihilus. If Surik was said to be a hole, then my comment stands, if she was an echo though... I'd understand an echo as essentially a give and take: give what you take, which I can't put on any character in particular. Though maybe that is an interesting point, when noone is perfect. In a sense Anakin was like an echo, returning kindness for kindness and harm for harm. Only when he failed to do so with Padme on Mustafar did he truly fail as a golden child of the Force (I don't consider the fight between Maze Windu and the Chancelor as a failing of that rule, as the Chancelor's actions seemed to be kind to Anakin, while Windu and the other masters were more clear in showing their critique than their kindness). And if she was an echo of the force, maybe she never could be a healer of it, as she would return the twists inflicted by use of the dark as well. Which only means the Order may be a reflection of what it once was, even if made better, and therefor destined to eventually repeat the errors of the past: have their members rush into a war they don't fully understand, take the sith lords down but are reduced to the last, who then rebuilds. In that sense Surik and Luke are mirrors of each other, like Anakin and Revan are mirrors. A war, the death of the order, masters in hiding, a fallen Jedi eventually redeemed, a second war, and someone who returns to the order to rebuild it. If one thinks about it, quite a lot of similarities. If only there was a lighthouse for a Bioshock reference as well :b

Couldn't agree more.

​@@TheCouch-Co-Opkreia:revan never fell the republic would have fallen had revan not gone to war the council did not change revan as they claim they mearly striped away the surface and allowed the true self to return one who was willing to wage war to save other but that is what I belive as a master knows there apprentice

One of the best to ever do it.

Well said

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It could also be the worst of the worst and to be used as a deterrent. But generally, yes ;b

No, not really. Author makes massive flaw in extrapolating point of Kreia's philosophy and does not take into account the ying/yang dynamic of light and dark side. It's good video essay but by now means is it perfect.

​@@Nobody32990he needs a peer review

I also think you have missed the point of Revan’s story. He didn't actively join the Sith, he was a spiritual figure. But, as Kreia says, he didn't truly fall. He allowed the Emperor to use him. And the point of the game is to do what is moral, what is objectively right, not simply follow light or dark. That's why in the Old Republic era, as well as during the New Republic and beyond you also hear of people falling to the light as well as the dark. Balance means balance, not simply pretending that one side is inherently better. True balance means using both "good" and "bad" as needed and finding the least extreme path as often as possible.

​@@alexhudson277true balance from the aspect of taoism and Yin and Yang you would be right however since George lucas mixed middle eastern concepts with Christian ideals your idea of true balance is wrong, as George lucas once stated the darkside is perversion of the force, even some what like a cancer. Qui-gon was as close to balanced as you could get as he followed the will of the force not the jedi dogma.

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Welcome to the pack ;)

Isn't living in cages in apartment blocks, working in factories, living with people crowded into cities in a dirty environment a form of captivity?

@@cantionaleecclesiasticum5378yes

It's so like kotor staff to make great stories attached to games that don't work

Is it Drew Karpyshyn?

​@@smugplushExactly, like L4D2 and B4B

​@@ZerklassDrew Karpshin was also instrumental to Mass Effect's story.

I would like to hear the unabridged thesis

I understood That Reference🤓😎

More like the Story of Dath Plagiarise

I would actually like that.

at least we can put this on the fridge

Give the Sith warrior story a try. Preferably light side. It really feels like KOTOR 3. It’s so unique too.

Have you seen Andor yet? Fair if you have but if you like KOTOR I expect you'd also like it.

Interestingly enough, Chris avellone and obsidian were actually not fans of Star Wars, more trekkies allegedly. They spent hours talking about what they hated about Star Wars and channeled that into a perfect deconstruction, but not an assassination

@@jeremygeller9145 LOL. No wonder I liked/played Kotor 1 more than Kotor 2.

@@seanmccormick1412 to each their own, kotor 1 is a perfect Star Wars story, something that neither the prequels or sequels could replicate, kotor 2 misses a few marks due to the tight development window, but its plot and characters are some of the best in video gaming

@@jeremygeller9145 This actually isn't true They were told by Bioware "we ain't making KOTOR 2, you do it" so Avellone, who knew 0 about star wars, did a bunch of research on it to figure out what it was like It wasn't some deliberate hate piece, they didn't know enough to hate

Kenobi had good scenes, and many not so good ones.

Because neither is completely right, ...saving the republic to die another day, and perpetuating the Jedi to stagnate right up until Revan's disappearance leaves you a little bitter when you no longer are at the age most of star wars is enjoyed by, the careless teens and mid-twenties. sure its a preferable ending to win the day alongside your companions, and not having to murder half of them for being unable to submit to your change of ways and morals.. its the more lighthearted entry of the two by far. ...Revan was an instrument of change, but very little in control of their own destiny, in so far that the Force (or the plot.) would almost never let Revan go, that is if you take SWTOR's continuation of it all into account. otherwise the mystery left behind in K2 leaves a nice empty space to imagine one's own ideas and reasonings.

@@foulmoodcentral2830 Yeah forget about the Revan novel and Swtor. Stripping Revan's agency is about the worst thing to do for the character.

Remember what Korea said, perhaps Jedi didn't erase his identity, just stripped it if what coveted the surface, the things brought by mandalorian wars, the Sith etc. Basically Revan we play is the man he was before the war, and this man was a Jedi still.

@@user-pm3wk6lw6m Even so, that comes across more as a writing soft retcon than what acutally happened. In kotor 1, the playable character outright rejects the title of 'Revan.' Meanwhile, the character actively destroys their own empire they built up to stand against the True Sith. Everything Revan once stood for, is actively destroyed by this 'new' Revan. The Jedi council may have only allowed Revan to be reborn, but the Dark Side ending is allowing the original Revan to be reborn much sooner. Effectively pitting him as Lord Revan with a new apprentice, as though the Jedi hardly touched him. The Jedi Ending, Revan destroys his own empire, and only later realizes what was actually at stake. Even then, KOTOR 2 is clear the dark Revan recieves his full memories, while light Revan it is more ambiguous. Coupled with Kreia's distain for redemption (Ajunta Pall tomb) and Zez Kai Ell's point that Redemption wasn't Revan's choice... Not to mention HK-47's comments. Light side Revan, HK comments that his Master went from his true Potential (pre amnesia) to a low point. Yet, with the DS, Revan, HK claims Revan went from a high, to a low, and then RETURNS to his true potential. I'm sorry to type a book, but narratively there are more sources that would urge the player to acknowledge the Dark Revan is more in line with who Revan was originally, while Jedi Revan was a changed forced upon him.

The original order of force users, The Jedhai (spelling might be off) believed in true balance. When the schism happened it was like the Light Side followers declared themselves right without understanding the Dark Side followers. Jolee Bindo would be a great example of this original order acting for the wellness of the universe rather than holding on to the beliefs of the Jedi or the Sith. He does what is right not what a religion tells hims is right.

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@@TheCouch-Co-Op For awhile I considered female light side revan to be my favorite and then male exile, but I like the story you presented a lot. What do you think of male/female light/darkside revan? Which is the true one? You did use light side female exile as your canon interpretation which I feel is actually a very positive story. Somehow in my couple of playthroughs of Kotor II I was always convinced the council stripped the exile of his/her connection and I would personally blame them, lightside or darkside playthroug.

Morals aren't real.

⁠@@DontPretendtoCare Everything that occurs in a deterministic world is absolutely necessary, because all events are inevitable and unavoidable There’s an error in your thinking. In a deterministic system change, actual change is literally impossible. Don’t you agree? Why or why not. We all push agendas to “educate” people and have them act as we prefer That’s called morality. But you say morality doesn’t exist. Free will is not required for morality to exist. Morality is merely about preferred ideas about human behavior. The type of society you prefer is merely the product of your values But people don’t always agree on the preferred conduct of people in a given society.

@@DontPretendtoCare go live life without them and see how you like it

@@dubscheckum8246Everyone does every day of their life pussy.

Thank you!

We'd love to explore more Star Wars characters like Jolee in the future, if you can think of any others!

Isn't Jolee Bindo the biggest iconic character people point to for a "Grey Jedi"? If the whole Grey Jedi thing is not really a thing, there can probably be something interesting with both him and Ahsoka. Personally, I am a fan of Star Wars I have always thought there has been those seeds that the Jedi being held up as the only system as flawed. There needed to be something that took into account of the arrogance of the Jedi and a system that pushed the individuals into immersing themselves in the dark side. Was kind of hoping that Baylan Skol and Shin Hati could be something like a start.

We're just getting started ;)

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Christian theology has a deep heritage of valuing knowledge as an extention of God's truth and creation. This goes for most Christian faith traditions until the 1800s really. The ones who express the kind skepticism toward knowledge you seem to describe are actually a minority and mostly concentrated in the USA. They actually are often the ones in Christianity who are most skeptical of the Christian faith tradition ironically.

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Some of the smartest videogame writing ever.

Don't speak too soon ;)

What's also interesting about Revan is that he never bent the Force to his will. Rather, it bent him to its will. As Kreia says, his power was like the heart of the Force. So much so that even as a child one could see his future already carved out before him by the nature of the universe itself. And even as he tried to forge his own path, he ultimately ended up following the way that had already been set for him.

Agreed. I never did like the "redemption via amnesia" plot. It felt more real if Revan reclaimed his identity as Dark Lord of the Sith, the Jedi paying the price for trying to use him. Perfectly leads into the battered and bleeding galaxy of the sequel after the fledgling Sith Empire implodes.

@@dianabarnett6886 Yes... :)

@@DBArtsCreators I strongly disagree with this. Revan's whole persona, is bending the Force to his will. He was steeped in the knowledge of ancient Sith Rituals, and "Even then you could see the Jedi he would slay, etched on his soul." Malachor V demonstrated Revan's heart. "Yet with Revan, there was the same commitment, but it was a subtle thing, like weaving threads in a tapestry, or strokes upon a canvas. He spoke through battle and tactics in a way one could never do in words. He showed his heart at Malachor V, and finally at the end of the Jedi Civil War. I believe he was speaking to Malak in that final battle, though few knew it." ―Brianna, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2 - The Sith Lords "Observation: Master, I do not believe that the Mandalorians were the true target at Malachor - I believe that the intention was to destroy the Jedi, break their will, and make them loyal to Revan. I do not know if you examined the records of the deaths on Malachor, but you cannot escape that many of the Jedi and Republic soldiers who died were not Revan's strongest supporters. Observation: I believe that Revan was "cleaning house" at Malachor V. What ones did not die became Revan's allies against the Republic." ―HK-47 to the Jedi Exile To say Revan was benevolent is silly. Perhaps one might say he was a pawn of destiny, and such is what led to his survival for so long as he was captured by the Jedi... but make no mistake, the first game makes it abundantly clear when talking to Yuthura; the Jedi serve the force, the Sith bend it to their will. While you may debate the semantics of whether or not Revan was truly 'Sith,' he indeed taught everyone to bend the force to his will. He corrupted people, just as he corrupted the force, breaking them, until only his will remained.

True!

I can't believe a corporation that wants to sell merchandise might phone in a story to sell merchandise quicker

The jedi should stop being lazy and ACTUALLY get to work. NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!!!! Would it have killed them to at the bare minimum, save anakin's mom?

The trap here is thinking the Jedi should be one or the other. That humanity is binary and not a degree with many different aspect. Meta-narrative wise, K2 pointed out that the need for conflict will always corrupt jedi, at any time, under any Order. So a perfect jedi order work as intended eternally is impossible. It's ultimately fall on the individual to push their agenda through.

@@mdd4296 Excellent point, and the reality that the Force itself is the issue.

@@colbyentzminger217 no its dark side users.

@@valentinchappa6702 Dot and by extension, Kreia make the argument that the force is the issue. Yes, dark siders are the issue, but only because the force itself hardly permits force users to be 'human' without severe risk of falling to the dark side. It is, almost as a fact, inevitable that someone not dedicated to the Jedi way of life will eventually turn dark. So while the Sith and dark siders are an issue, they are the symptom, not the disease. Yet it is this mechanic that fuels the endless war in the star wars galaxy. Look up "the foundations of star wars" or "the philosophy of Kreia" if you've not already seen them. They argue this point.

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>Having your entire life philosophies existentially shaped and challenged by mediocre consumer entertainment products for children. Yes, I have no doubt in my mind you wore a mask and got the vaccine. The truth is you're not even sentient, you're an NPC in real life

Don't speak too soon!

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leaving a community you have spent almost 2 decades in, ever since you were a little boy is a nearly impossible position to take. Not to mention the time his romance with Padme panned out was also the time Clone war started, abandoning the Order at that time would make him see himself a traitor. Also what is he gonna do outside the Order? Just leeaching off Padme? Jedi training doesn't prepare you for employment. This is like asking somebody just leave their job because they dont like it. The real question is whether the Jedi Order's non-attachment rule is unproductive. And according to George Lucas, it is. It isnt that Jedi shouldnt get attached, but the key is to know when to let go. The Old Republic Jedi Order was clearly in the wrong during the Mandalorian War. 1st, this war was much less complicated than the Clone War. The Mandalorian had no unadressed grievance, they were crusading and genociding for land and power. 2nd: Kreia made this argument implicitly, that how do you even hope to know your enemy if you dont engage in practical action with or against them. If the Jedi didnt participate in the war, even just to investigate their concern, then how do they even know what is happening, who is pulling the string, what is their strategy, what is their purpose... 3rd: when we turned to the surviving Jedi Masters in K2, all of them were way off base in their judgement, esp the most ivory tower of them all: Atris. And the 3 Jedi Masters, despite being "cast down", had their mindset so conditioned by the Order they refused to egange with life and saw the truth in front of their eyes. So while Revan, Exile and co fail in the sense that they caused further harm to the galaxy. If the Order has engaged earlier on, would this have happened? Would Revan's fall happen or even be neccessary? If we take Revan's war as a way to force the Republic to reform, either by beating him or by being conquered by him, then maybe the Order could have stopped this crusade in the first place by joining the war and steered the Republc toward more peaceful reform. And with that the Jedi genocide wouldnt have happened. Bottom line is the Order refused to act whether to uphold galactic peace they lay claim to nor protecting their own intersts, while have all the power and every reasons to.

@@mdd4296 "Jedi training doesn't prepare you for employment." Ahh yes, all that technical training they receive to be able to survive definitely couldn't be turned around for profits, for sure. Not like Ahsoka wasn't shown working in a garage to pay her way or nothin' 🤣🤣 As for the rest of it, we'll just have to agree to disagree friend; they chose to not engage in a conflict occurring outside of Republic space because the vibes were rancid and they weren't sure why, but then a bunch of their young adult members went off to war and died or worse, became monsters. There is no objectively correct answer. That's the joy of the storytelling.

@ane There is a difference between working in a garage for a short time to pay their way and working a 9/5 job. The way Jedi was trained from childhood, they can barely hold an usual job. Most who left the order, if not falling to the dark side, became hermit and vagabond even b4 the war. They can definitely survive the world, but their life quality nose dive. Anakin also dont hate his current job before being manipulated by Sheev. But this is just one out of many reasons Anakin wouldnt or shouldnt leave the order he loved just to pursue a life with Padme. The real question is whether the rule was unproductive, and George Lucas said it was. Luke flipped the rule on its head when he created a new order, before that lore was nixed by Disney. The war didnt occur outside Republic space, the Outer Rim had been Republic space for atleast 10k year before Mandalorian war, when they first fought the Hutt to keep that region. They have fought several wars since then, before Mandalorian. And the Rep had already joined the Mandalorian War before the Jedi. There is no best answer in the sense that we dont know the best course of action, esp at the time the decision has to be made. However, there is a difference between the bad course, which the Jedi took and a decent one. If you try your best and fail, tough luck, you have my sympathy. If you didnt try anything and claim moral highground because of a "objective correct answer" that has never existed, anywhere. Then nah, you deserve the consequences. It's not like the Jedi was ignorant of what the Mandalorian was doing. Hell, the Mandalorian didnt even bother giving their war a fancy dress. It's not like the Jedi isnt funded and trained to deal with this exact type of crisis. How does the result prove them wrong? Self-evidence, with the Jedi genocide and further harm upon the galaxy by their ex members. Of course, some Jedis would disagree and go to war, that happens all the time be it in SW or rl. In fact, your very inaction against an unjust war fuelled the youngster's dissatisfaction with you. The youngsters you taught to keep peace and love life in the galaxy. The very least you should do is keeping track of those people, esp knowing how dangerous Jedi can become. A point that K2 wholeheartedly made. And even if we ignore the result of their uninvolvement, they still did (or more accurately didnt) everything to put themselves on the backfoot 1. They saw that the conflict is rancid. But they didnt bother finding out how it is rancid with facts on the ground. In fact, Revan found out about it after winning the war. The Council would have had the upperhand if they knew that fact the same time as Revan. 2. Leave millions to be killed and annexed by an invading power, empowering that very power. who drew no line in the sand, which can only lead to further galactic destabilisation 3. Didnt do anything to prepare the Republic against such threats until Revan returned and steamrolled them.

@@mdd4296 Lmao you're quite the troll, friend. Have a nice life.

​@@MsIvalanetalks out of his ass. Gets hit with objective facts that oppose his headcanon. Calls the other guy a troll. What a loser.

I like both powers, so I try to maintain it somewhat neutral, in order to get only the powers that seem the most effective, doing the most with what little I have. It's what I did in "Infamous".

We'd love to do more philosophical breakdowns on games like this! if you can think of others to cover let us know.

Heck yeah!

In the games, you don't get the name. The character is only ever referred to as The Exile for the most part in order to give the player character choice. In The Old Republic: Revan, the canonical version of the character you play in KOTOR 2 is brought up. I haven't read those books myself, so idk how deep it goes into everything but most of the EU books I have read were good, so I'd probably give them go if it interests you.

The game did such a fantastic job with each of its characters.

Would love to do a Mass Effect video!

@@TheCouch-Co-Op I’ll stay tuned then! :)

Mace Windu apparently had that power with his purple Saber. As did Luke Skywalker in the EU, before he was downgraded to Coward Luke hiding on Green Monster Milk Island. Timothy Zahn wrote Luke as Grand Master of a New Jedi Order

You'd be surprised how often folks gotta reminded of that. Idk how to word this delicately, so I'll apologize for those who find it blunt or offensive, but the most popular religions of our world struggle with this concept often. Morality is "owned" by the religious and their various versions of a god, according to their tenants. Whatever the god says, or what the folks that determine what their god has said, goes. Even if it's something we would view as horrendous. The very idea that it's their god's word/decision makes it morally and unequivocally correct. Anyone or anything that goes against this god's words or actions makes it and those doing said thing morally wrong. The same goes for those that have managed to gather enough power and sway over society in non-religious ways. They are able to push their views and dictate what is right and wrong within their sphere of influence, or at least have the power to impose and push their views on the topic through legislation, bribe, intimidation, etc. The rich and powerful often get lost in their own power and lose some, if not all, of their ability to relate to those they affect. What is good for them is good, and generally, the folks that complain about their actions are jealous, an enemy, are just trying to bring them down, and are therefore bad. Obviously, it's not that black and white with either example, and it wouldn't be fair to say that's how it always is. But, without the constant reminder that even if you think you're doing "good" you could be actively harming the world around you, it's not hard to get lost in your own ideals and become unable to self criticize honestly. At least to the point of actually changing behavior and views on wellbeing for the better. So, this topic is a rather important one. While not new, it's very easily forgotten, and makes a pretty interesting story if applied well.

It's a shame the Old Republic never got adapted to the big screen!

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Thats because both kreia and kotor 2 were made by obsidian the same studio thats behind fallout new vegas, bioware wasnt really involved with it and naturally they couldnt learn anything from it to use in any of their future works

@d4128 Bioware was involved with the first game. Regardless of the game, there's simply no comparison with anything modern they made.

@@BIGESTblade yeah especially that anthem crud

A Mass Effect video we can get behind

@@TheCouch-Co-Op originally they were trying to stop the universe from being torn apart at the subatomic level from the mass effect itself

Only facts.

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