I think it’s crazy how they suggested in the video that he may try to overthrow Beerus hopefully we get a battle where beerus can showcase more powerful abilities id like to see it. But him becoming black with his transformation really does complete the whole Yin Yang thing which I like as well

Interesting.....

he may die this time for good

If by mercy twice you mean sparing Goku AND Vegeta then to quote Gimli from LotR… “That still only counts as one!”

If by mercy twice you mean sparing Goku AND Vegeta then to quote Gimli from LotR… “That still only counts as one!”

Same it won’t be the same without him but I believe he’s already seen it in the heavens!!

@@jacobramirez2184 yeah he has

I just hope Daman Mills could perform just as good as he is, or perhaps edit his voice to be somewhat closer.

Linda Young is still with us.

@@roamer1389 thank God

That's what I'm saying this man should be able to kill em all

Well, it’s 10 years. 10 days to us.

@@Moshuun I was thinking the same 😂

@@Moshuun indeed and that’s a lonnng time for someone like frieza.

It took him 4 to 6 months to reach the level of ssb. 10 years of training...he's become a god..

Nigga frieza

Okay but can we stop the cultural appropriation

Your not wrong

@@sabrearashi302 Frieza? Never!

He can say monkey without being checked😂

I 100% agree that Frieza trained to be strong enough that he could confidently beat a PUI Gogeta cuz Frieza is smart and calculative and if Black Frieza can truly confidently beat a hypothetical PUI Gogeta I think that means he could also beat a TUI or UE Gogeta and I also believe Frieza is hiding another transformation similar to Cooler’s 5th-Form on top of his Black form because it would be very unwise to show your true strength right away considering it didn’t even look like he was trying when he 1-shot them 2

_Watched seth’s video I see. I agree nonetheless._

@@mh.1. I even had the idea before seeing Seth’s vid so I felt delighted to see I had the same thinking process as him

Well if mui goku gets one punched, than he is stronger than beerus. So no mortal can currently rival him. So this should be interesting. But I wonder if frieza is evil though. I feel like he's like old vegeta where he won't kill the main characters but keeps acting like he going to

@@mh.1. I'll reference seth next time haha.

achieved a form that matched the darkness in his heart? lmfao fanboys will say anything HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THEY LITERALLY JUST COLOURED HIM BLACK LMFAO

You act like whatever new form frieze gets is going to win, doesn't matter if he focused on himself or not, he's the villain. He's going to lose

@@italianrager5831 >lmfao >most likely texting/typing that straight faced Despite OP's comment you sound annoying and obnixious as hell.

@@terribaddy well he one shotted full power goku and vegeta so in the present hes the winner. yeah he might lose in the future because plot so while goku and vegeta trains frieza will do the same. so really the only thing that could defeat frieza right now is the author.

Yeah, and the author will make it happen. You acting like these characters have free will and can think for themselves. News flash, they aren't real

Frieza probably realize how miniscule of hating the sayians are in the full realm of universes. Gaining total domination is killing the gods period.

there is not much difference he will be surpassed again wanted to see a buff golden form first they should also give him another form where he looks like his first form but big

I think a good story for keeping Goku and Vegeta alive is to use them to help fight Frieza's new "enemies"

@@SuperbMoves His next form I think should have him growing 2 horns.

@@charlesolinger9735 when the spoilers of this manga came out, i sat in deep thought and posted a comment in which I made up an entire scenario in which Frieza leaves Goku and Vegeta alive in order to recruit them to help him fight against his brother Cooler and his army, since Cooler is seeking to take out Frieza and his empire as "payment" for embarrasing the royal family by losing to a "low class Saiyan twice" and playing a role in getting their father killed years ago, and Frieza knows that Cooler is stronger than him even with this new black form. It's a pretty interesting story honestly, and I'm not just saying that because i came up with it. Lol. I really do mean it, because it gives Goku and Vegeta a legit threat to the universe and brings back a pretty popular character, cuz I mean shit, they keep bringing back all of these old villains, why not bring back the older brother of the "ruler of the universe"?

Beerus & Whis Def want let that happen lol

I mean yeah .. but aren’t they just like bus boy and a cook or something

@@brandongarza342 knowing freiza and Akira he gonna use them to train and In turn they gonna get stronger aswell I could see Gohan piccolo and the gang vs Frieza new army with a amped up maki and oil (with mastered transformations) while freiza fights Goku and Vegeta (post training) ppl forgot they mentioned all the heaters have that second form for a reason lol

Frieza loves to gather war trophies after nuking a entire race out of existence.

@@johntravolta8389 lmao true

Lower your expectaion, it would be cool if that happened but lets be honest. Super doesn't have the guts to do it sadly.

@@spritvio639 Don't have the guts or precision to pull it off well.

@@spritvio639 lol yeah I don’t blame ya for feeling that way but I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see. You never know, maybe it’ll be a nice surprise this time

@@spritvio639 Yeah I actually like super but they definitely stick to the same formula. Would be unique if Frieza went after the Gods

Frieza new power Still doesn't come close to the God of Destruction there Is a difference Beerus trained for millions of years vs 10 baby years 🤣

Facts

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*That nigga

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Me too. Its just a question of if the authors can figure out how to pull the trigger on such an enormous and complex multiverse spanning plot, or if they'll opt out of something so complex and give it an anticlimactic conclusion. I hope they can go through with it, but I won't hype myself up too much, just in case.

Yeah, there are so many ways they can go about writing the story of the next arc. We’ll see what will happen.

Yeah but he would never reach angel levels. Whis would still neck chop him easily

Hmm, I don’t know, i am probably wrong but I honestly feel both true ui goku and ultra ego vegeta should be on the level of whis or at least in the same ballpark though with all their training and fighting up until this point. Taking the account of both Moro arc and the recent arc of course. So we’ll see, definitely going to be interesting.

@@kevinliu2898UI/UE Goku & Vegeta are nowhere near Whis level. They're still not even at Beerus level. Although it might be possible Black Frieza is as strong or stronger than Beerus now.

As seen on saiyans, the transformations give lesser and lesser bonuses, up until they got god ki

Not true in the slightest.

@@rogersbryant1507 Freeza is cunning he would want others to do his work for him first. Before he even took someone like that on and counting to Oracle Fish and Whis someone else is stronger than Freeza in universe 7.

That makes sense. He'll probably continue to train and get even stronger before he shows up again.

Nah I hope Frieza gets a click and forms some form of a sinister 6 group 👀

Maybe he’d just be an anti hero so he can cause trouble but not anger beerus

@@yeetyeet5079 God I hope not.

@@songoku9348 his core won’t change but it’s nice seeing him have more layers vs being 1 dimensional like in z

@@yeetyeet5079 I don’t think he’ll ever be an anti hero. Frieza is a villain through and through. He’ll never be anything else. He’ll never be redeemed imo

Oh Goku, I will always be a villain. Nothing's going to change that...

How was Buu "made" that way? If anything Buu was made "more innocent" when The Kai from the past gave up himself and made Buu the fluffy pink child he is in Z before transforming.

Wishful thinking, but I'm with you.

Gohan arc maybe but gohan takeover hell no 😂

If you think about it, freiza didn't do anything special besides sacrifice some of his age for power just like granola, goku and vegeta could train for 10 years in the time chamber but it's like cheating

If anything fighting freiza and defeating him would make goku and vegeta 10 years stronger in real time

My dumbass mixed them up. I’ll leave it as is.

this looks fake

Man, what's with all these weird spam bots trying and failing to mimic the video uploader lately. I just can't see anyone falling for something so obvious.

@@secoTheSonicFan He may not have a choice if Frieza literally attacks him. What's he gonna do, stand there and let Frieza beat the shit out of him? He'd be forced to fight back.

Yeah but Beerus is a moving goal post. For all we know, he’d KO freeza with low difficulty. Some people think he can take it to Whis now which is even more silly lol

@@ssj6jose lol yeah, they keep buffing Beerus every time there's even a possible hint that he might've been surpassed. I kinda hope the day where Beerus loses his throne isn't far off. I've enjoyed having him as a hard to reach milestone to surpass, but its been long enough, and it'd be nice to see Frieza be the one to prove to Goku and Vegeta that, hay, tis guy actually can be surpassed, like yeah its been their goal all along, but seeing someone do it before them would be hella motivating.

Yeah but we like wasting our time cos we have two months till the next chapter lmao

To overthrow the omni king he will have to defeat the Grand Priest first. No matter how strong black frieza is now...I seriously doubt he is anywhere near the Grand Priest level

@@Jaboyd_17 I don't think he'd even need to fight Grand Priest given the angels are technically just attendants and observers, they aren't supposed to get involved. Though I suppose GP could work by different rules. The main obstacle if not GP, would be Zeno's bodyguards who are probably quite strong in their own right.

@@dreadrath They are not supposed to get involved mortal battles. Any threats that involves God's there are different rules that apply. The Grand Priest will not just sit back and watch anybody attack Zeno. Especially if he has direct permission from Zeno to defend him at all costs. But let's give your argument the benefit of the doubt and say Frieza finds a way to get pass the Grand Priest. Yes the guards are another problem. But Zeno himself is a whole other problem. He has the ability to erase you just by snapping his fingers. You can't defeat that with a power level. 1 is bad enough. Universe 7 has two Zenos now. I don't think Frieza wants that type of smoke

@@Jaboyd_17 Very fair points. Which means if there's ever gonna be a rebellion of this kind, Frieza would need to find some indirect method of going about it, one that only uses direct confrontation as a last desperate and hopeless resort. Zamasu at least showed that GoD's could be neutralized by way of killing the supreme kais, and by extension the angel of that universe would become "Inactive" whatever the hell that means since they clearly don't die. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of workaround, since clearly this isn't something raw power can accomplish. I'm not sure Frieza could fake a friendly disposition to befriend Zeno like Goku sort of has, the guy just oozes evil, so that's a no go (Plus I'd respect Frieza a lot more if he did devise some clever indirect method of conquering the gods) It might be a cheap solution, but he might be able to exploit the Super Dragon Balls somehow. Eh, I dunno, I mean he's doomed to fail no matter what, I just hope whatever he does, its clever, impressive and has a major impact even after he fails, even if only to put the fear of mortals actually being a genuine danger into the thus far arrogant god hierarchy.

So your telling me that some how gohan got stronger than goku and vegeta who have been training for years with beerus and whis, with absolutely no training 🤔. I honestly don't think that they are related I think its a boruto situation here.

@@angeloftheuchiha.4810 he didn't say that... Plus the Goku in the manga is several years younger than the one training with broly so technically yes the Goku we see in the manga is weaker than Gohan in super hero probably lol....

Yeah, they also mention moving Broly to Beerus' world to keep him safe from Freeza. At the time I was like "Broly beat Freeza down bad, why would they need to keep Broly safe from him?" Now I know.

@@veambeam that's was the narrative of the movie, you don't have to flat out say that if you say it correlates with the movie, the only way the two can exist together is if you don't know what has been going on in the last two arcs. We saw gohan in the last arc he wasn't this strong and he had been training again, just for him to all of a sudden stop again? Why?

@@JeremyB8419 I mean he is the reincarnation of Kid Buu who has the Grand Supreme Kai's powers and was only beatable with the Genki Dama because he was pure evil. This guy was also teleporting around the universe blowing up planets like he was stepping on bubble wrap.

We need to know the actual name of his race.

He’s a mutant

I thought his race were called frost demons?

@@700mobster His race was never specified any that you've heard were fanmade.

@@700mobster Officially his race is called 'Frieza's race'. That's all we know.

As deep as a kiddie pool

@@morbincrusader5123 XD

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Interesting take!

@@officialjerm9122 Thank you ^^ I have a less serious take… Frieza’s race are all “cold” themed names, right? Well, no one saw Black Frieza coming like how no one sees black ice when driving :p (it would be such a Toriyama thing to do)

Ya gotta watch out for that sneaky dangerous black ice. Last night I was in a perfectly safe neighborhood, walking away from an atm, and black ice snuck up on me and practically robbed me of my balance.

Dude he hadn't even transformed before destroying " the strongest in the universe "

@@bradcarver8127 sometimes white snow can be pretty dangerous too

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Ur handsome damn😳

It's more so that it's just lame. They can do that and make it a physical transformation. I did like golden freiza tho and this, just this should also have at least some physical differences. As for the main characters they defo need more than just aura and hair colour changes, which is where tails would come in handy if they ever gave them a return

Could also be him mocking UE and UI, since black white and purple seem to be the theme of Saiyan forms right now if we count beast Gohan.

I don't think it's that deep honestly

@@DreJ912 it is. There’s a reason they keep using colors. It’s symbolic.

@@ashebull123 true I don’t think he cares about mocking them or getting revenge anymore That’s what makes this form is symbolic

Broly Goku fusion?

😂

I don't think he'd make the same mistake twice...

@@juanmaldonado5288 he actually did....trunks saga and DBS resurrection F

@@s7vendadonofficial220 Trunks saga?? Don't remember that saga

Idk. He still has a ways to get on whis and grand priest level

@@TheKingMarkell That’s an understatement. Frieza possibly has surpassed Beerus but the Angels are WAY above the Gods of Destruction! Frieza is nowhere close to Whis in power. Whis brought the dude back to life lol

The Paradox I hope so.

@@blaketindle4703 Beerus is as strong as the plot requires him to be, he’s a moving goal post. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made it so that Beerus one shots frieza still. Now the angels, they’re on a whole different level. No mortal should ever even get close to Whis, let alone the grand priest. The grand priest would raise his eyebrow and kill frieza no matter what color he achieves lol

Until the arc afterwards

Beerus is as strong as the plot requires him to be. They could easily make it so that he can one shot freeza.

Probably doesn't help that he was training alone (As far as we know) so without something strong to test himself against, his options are limited (Unless he pulls a Piccolo in early Z and figures out the multi-form technique to make a copy of himself to train against) Also Frieza has never had a formal teacher of any kind to teach him different ways, he's entirely self-taught, which explains his creative yet straightforward fighting style, no martial arts, form or proper technique (Unless he's imitating Goku's moves) though he does have some pretty unique ki and telekinetic based attacks, so he can get pretty imaginative when he wants to.

Who's to said he trained in there alone? He took Tagoma to train with him before. Maybe he grabbed another lackey... Or multiple and beat the crap out of them for 10 years straight.

@@diegomedina9637 nobody could survive him beating them for 10 years.

@@superskullmaster like i said maybe he took a lot of dudes in there and beat them up for 10 years.

@@diegomedina9637 well that might explain why he stayed for 10 years because one sided fights don’t give much gains.

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Same, but with Cell the writers can keep saying "Zenkai boost" and have them keep going. But with Frieza, it feels as if we're back to Namek level power. Well, that was Zenkai after Zenkai. Bad example. 😅

More like superman and darkseid dynamic

@@Jiron127 yes

Pure Vessel, Frieza never fought kale

Pretty sure he did in the manga

@@blackfrieza1912 He did in the manga which is the continuity we're talking about

He never took Kale seriously, he eliminated Jiren and he was still able to keep fighting against Broly despite losing. Now, he can casually oneshot those 3.

@@purevessel4506. I don't take the manga version of tornament of power seriously since they retcon and change alot of shit

You know what they sayyy...

Well this is modern dragonball, whats next Super Saiyan Green Puar?

@@13tapioca 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@Cay9z crazier things have happened

I miss Chris Ayers…