IFR flight lesson in the clouds - SAMPLE Patreon exclusive

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5 жыл бұрын

Join us as we file and fly IFR from San Carlos to Livermore California. Austin has recently completed his private pilot check ride and is now moving on to his instrument rating. Early on in that process, we fly a complete flight from start to finish to see how the process works and what it will be like when he gets his rating. We use the autopilot. We take the vectors. I handle things that are beyond his current abilities and explain how to process an IFR flight. This is a (pretty much) unedited look at a real IFR flight lesson and is an example of the kind of bonus content that Patrons get as a part of supporting The Finer Points channels. Please enjoy!
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@j.vincenttaylor8916 5 жыл бұрын

Really cool to watch saturation point happen. Reminds me of when you explained ifr to chops as a gym workout and getting to that point where you cant lift any more weight. Great vid, as usual. Thanks

@SuspiciousMan 5 жыл бұрын

I wish you were my instructor.

@BrianAnim 3 жыл бұрын

"one twenty five thirty five" is one of my favorite callouts when doing a changeover.

@ramimehyar481 5 жыл бұрын

You really knew where to cut that sample! right on top, the beautiful top scenery! Tempting to become a Patreon :D indeed!

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah it was so beautiful up there that day :). Join me on Patreon! Top level Patrons get a 1/2 hour of face time each month to answer questions, talk flying, etc.

@hellions5 5 жыл бұрын

Love the "real world" IFR video. I just flew flew into LVK last week. Great airport, awesome controllers.

@freedom4u18 5 жыл бұрын

Your video’s are so much help and the patience to explain everything going on. Can’t wait until next video.

@kiltedpiper98 5 жыл бұрын

I am often amazed at your teaching ability and deep technical knowledge. This video raised the already very high bar I had for you as an instructor. Amazing. Your students are blessed to have you as an instructor.

@paulredman1447 4 жыл бұрын

Jason, you rock!! When I'm 'grounded' I always check your vids to keep me thinking.. Cheers from UK..

@acirinelli 3 жыл бұрын

"little more right rudder" has to be the number one thing said from flight instructors

@brianmoeller3539 5 жыл бұрын

"Thumbs up" before I even started the video. Jason is KZfaq aviation gold! Jason....Where did you get that checklist? I like the slim profile of it. Much easier to handle than a larger card.

@ctn830 5 жыл бұрын

I love these videos. I appreciate them as an instrument student

@stan8235 5 жыл бұрын

Pass on to Austin that there is a stereo/mono DIP switch inside the headset control box, that he needs to switch. Apparently your plane (at least the one you were flying that day) has a stereo output and Lightspeed default is set to mono.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Stan!! I will for sure pass that along

@c172flyer 5 жыл бұрын

He is handling those radios like a champ!

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's not afraid to dive right in there

@MrDucatizombie 5 жыл бұрын

Great Videos guys...keep up the good work!

@adamrivera3285 5 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video. Thank you!

@REBooner30 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I recall the feeling of complete mental saturation.

@Parr4theCourse 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, I remember landing once and told my CFII to taxi back to the ramp... I was SPENT!

@topofthegreen 5 жыл бұрын

So awesome , I love these videos!

@mortidus 5 жыл бұрын

Love the video, also the Lightspeed headset must be brand new! (still has the plastic on them) Love my Zulu 3. Thanks for sharing!

@mortidus 5 жыл бұрын

Also, he needs to flip the dip to change from mono or to mono depending on the audio panel, dip switches are under the batteries... ;)

@Parr4theCourse 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, kind-of nice refresher as well.....

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Watching it -- it always amazes me how much learning really gets packed into a single flight lesson. We should all be recording and watching

@Parr4theCourse 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheFinerPoints Yea my wife would film my lessons PPL & IFR with an iPhone from the back seat (no audio), I was amazed as well how task saturated I got during training!. We have since "graduated" to 2 GoPros, audio and a KZfaq Channel; "Parr 4 the Course" (pun intended), and in two weeks flying from Wichita Kansas to the Bahamas, our longest flight to-date. a little daunting but we'll manage. Got my PPL @ 60 and IFR @ 61, and LOVING it!

@scottfranco1962 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome systems familiarity. These days I end up teaching my instructor how the glass works.

@brianparkman8183 5 жыл бұрын

Great video and great instruction. Are there a lot of IFR videos and instruction in the Patreon only content?

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of these types of relatively "real time" videos. Some IFR, some VFR. There will be a lot more IFR ones coming because Austin is just getting started in instrument training. (It kind of depends on what kind of students I have at the time ... it's a window into my life)

@MichaelLloyd 5 жыл бұрын

This makes me glad I'm a Patreon :)

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support Michael! It makes a huge difference

@MichaelLloyd 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheFinerPoints It's a fair trade. Your videos make me a better, safer pilot.

@bendav 5 жыл бұрын

The camera angle had me thinking you were in a left turn - had to keep referencing the attitude indicator to make sure you weren't turning! Just like any IFR flight! Did you plan it that way?! :)

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

haha, I didn't notice. Funny you got the "leans" from KZfaq!

@ctn830 5 жыл бұрын

Hey where can i get that checklist? Looks the perfect size. I fly a C-172N & S

@brianmoeller3539 5 жыл бұрын

Are Austin's headsets new? Looks like he didn't take the protective wrapping off the ear piece ;)

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

He was trying them out, doing an A/B comparison against the Bose

@ctn830 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheFinerPoints Which headset won? Who wouldn't want BOSE. But for $1200 do I really need them as a GA instrument student?

@sasha-01 4 жыл бұрын

dude, i would be your best student (not because i am the best just because i want to keep getting better)!! All I do is study these days since getting my CPL just to stay sharp haha. I so want to work as a pilot and quit flying a desk...........

@Mikinct 3 жыл бұрын

A pilots 1st solo flight is something. I bet a pilots first solo IFR flight must be “interesting”

@zwesterful 5 жыл бұрын

I've been having the same volume balancing issue you guys were describing. My brother had on the lightspeed and I had on the bose. I notice you guys have the same lightspeed/bose pairing. I wonder if its something to do with those two brands mixing. . . I turned everyknob on the panel and the headsets and couldn't get a good ATC/intercom balance.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Review the comments above somebody had the solution - "Pass on to Austin that there is a stereo/mono DIP switch inside the headset control box, that he needs to switch. Apparently your plane (at least the one you were flying that day) has a stereo output and Lightspeed default is set to mono."

@jameshuggins7320 2 жыл бұрын

There seem to be many factors leading to the student being saturated. He’s obviously distracted by the volume differential between instructor and controllers. Also, the cockpit is unnecessarily frantic.

@North49Radio 4 жыл бұрын

Brutal. Couldn't get two thoughts together during the whole video. Is that frustrating as an instructor or what?

@jjohnii 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the frustration builds when you have a student who thinks they already know what you’re going to say.

@estherromero1919 Жыл бұрын

What plane is this?

@zibinhe5299 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have some tips for ifr student that cannot train in an airplane that has autopilot?

@townsendheal8471 5 жыл бұрын

Trim . And hope ur plane doesn’t have any persistent turning tendencies in straight and level .

@marklee1462 4 жыл бұрын

hold the yoke like it is made of soft banana wrapped in tissue paper. i.e dont get a death grip on the yoke and triim. This is the polite version

@jeffreyjustis5338 5 жыл бұрын

Do things change substantially in IFR training? I'm VFR with 60ish hours and the radios were understandable until the end... so much info at once!

@flynjay1 5 жыл бұрын

It is a pretty drastic difference in mental focus compared to VFR. You don't realize how much you rely on the outside world until it goes away. He also had it pretty easy since he is flying with a great autopilot.

@gveduccio 5 жыл бұрын

Much different you are in basic class... IFR is advanced... Landings become an after thought when using foggles or hood

@RIP5582 4 жыл бұрын

Busy.

@golls17 5 жыл бұрын

Dang this video makes me wish I had money to get my PPL... then get IFR... alas it's a rich man's hobby...

@mvpflyhigh8436 4 жыл бұрын

Your an awesome instructor but your student needs to focus on important thing instead of headsets

@rustusandroid 4 жыл бұрын

I have a pet peeve with people that don't remove the plastic wrap on their electronics.... I hear a bunch of great IFR training talk.... but all I see is that plastic...

@rackum44 4 жыл бұрын

Pull power back. to 23? go to 24.No go to 2350. You just always have to be right don't you

@briank1916 4 жыл бұрын

As an instructor you had a lot of information to give; but you overloaded him way too much. If I was trying to fly; I would have told you talk about half that amount. You can't teach everything in one flight.

@davidfern6833 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure of the intelligence of teaching IFR flying this way ----- using an autopilot as the primary means of aircraft control is asking for trouble. This kind of lesson would be much better spent using a procedural trainer on the ground.

@TheFinerPoints 3 жыл бұрын

I don't entirely agree. I totally agree that as time goes on we need to make sure that he can do this all by hand (and with failed equipment). I believe it's important to be able to think through the flying before having to do that and this lesson is fairly early in his training. Single pilot flying in the clouds is hard and somewhat "nerve wracking" for students (and sometimes experienced pilots) I want him to practice this under that pressure and get this real world experience. I will use the simulator for more extreme scenarios and other skill building drills.

@joblessalex 4 жыл бұрын

The world's shifting to paid everything now isn't it? Used to be you'd post KZfaq videos for fun, now it's "I'm rich and can afford to fly, but all you guys better pay me extra to watch! Not only that, but MONTHLY or else!" Cmon guys, this shits getting old.