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The BEST affordable Competition Shotgun!?

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TGS Outdoors

TGS Outdoors

Күн бұрын

It’s nice to shoot the latest £15000 competition gun, but most of us don’t have that money to spend, is it possible to get a comparable gun for less money?
I am a sucker for a 80’s trap gun, and when I saw this at Barbury Gunroom, I took it for a round of sporting and just had to have it.
Today I put it in front of the most critical team of judges I could find - Former World FITASC champion Ed Solomons and Sports Vision Expert Ed Lyons - to see what they had to say.
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@BrokenBarBox
@BrokenBarBox Жыл бұрын
A big pat on the back for the two Ed’s for stepping up and helping their friend. They did a great job carrying this video. Hope you are well and getting better Jonny!
@gnarshread
@gnarshread Жыл бұрын
Johnny is out there putting his personal health on the line so we can shoot for cheaper. Much respect! And those glasses are cool as hell!
@spoton6584
@spoton6584 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you are feeling better
@james-wb1jr
@james-wb1jr Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. The old Beretta exceptional quality look at the finish on the action all those years, and it still looks great. What a great spec gun. When you three get together the information on the ease in which it is delivered, make them the best films on KZfaq. Glad you made a full recovery
@spoton6584
@spoton6584 Жыл бұрын
Keep the awesome videos with the Ed's coming.
@hammyh1165
@hammyh1165 Жыл бұрын
My local shop had one of these in mult-choke for £550 not that long ago , in fantastic condition too. Very nearly bought it .
@davidpyper82
@davidpyper82 Жыл бұрын
Johnny glad you are ok now ? I see you struggling there in the background. Hope your getting a holiday and a rest . Thank you for your hard work + sash too . But don't over do it . Amazing content again God bless
@chadnolte9134
@chadnolte9134 Жыл бұрын
Great video on a classic O/U. Thank you Ed’s for you insight. Not just on this gun but on fitting and personal preferences. Nice glasses!! Jonny hope you are health once again and stay that way.
@lucluc8370
@lucluc8370 Жыл бұрын
I am a beginner and a few weeks ago I bought my first gun beretta 682 gold e, I was planning to buy a new Silver pigeon but when I saw the 682 I did not think long.
@tajzikria5307
@tajzikria5307 2 ай бұрын
Great gun
@Nathandkatieeats
@Nathandkatieeats Жыл бұрын
I haved owned 682X trap for 23 years and it had been sat in my cabinet for some time as I have shooting a different gun for some time. Watching this video fired me up to get her out and give her a blast which coincidentally happened on my birthday 🎉I can’t believe now that I didn’t just stick with the beretta 682X trap the whole time!! What a legend gun that dusts Clays for days 🎉🎉 Johnny you are so committed to your channel to even consider Filming this when suffering awfully that day 😮 I take my hat off to you dude! Hope your fully recovered now and keep up the good work 👍 ps would love to shoot with yourself and solumns one day 🙌🏽
@ceeg0
@ceeg0 6 ай бұрын
My daily driver is a 1988 28’ 682 supersport which looks very much your gun, and coincidentally I picked it up for 800 as well. After swapping the slippy original pad off, have had zero issues, aside from the loss of the press-in plastic bead, which improved my shooting in any case as I’m now comfortable shooting beadless.
@AlsAllAussieAdventures
@AlsAllAussieAdventures Жыл бұрын
Berettas are the best OVERALL shotgun manufacture in the world, there old stuff is simply amazing and their new 694 and DT11 are both amazing competition guns for the money. Cant go wrong!
@n.j.dougherty4872
@n.j.dougherty4872 Жыл бұрын
I have a 680 Gold with 29 inch barrels ported. Use it for everything doves, sheet and sporting clays. Has a adjustable comb thus able to have a great fit. Cost $1200. Will be the last gun to leave my safe. Great video keep up the good work.
@dg20120
@dg20120 Жыл бұрын
I’m slightly envious of used shotgun prices in the UK. The best deal I could find on gunbroker was around $1700 (£1300).
@markbutler9442
@markbutler9442 Жыл бұрын
Especially on some of the European and older SxS's. Prices are crazy in the US.
@chris10699
@chris10699 Жыл бұрын
Gun trader going massively downhill IMO - never seen a bargain, ever.
@GG-jw8pt
@GG-jw8pt Жыл бұрын
I just spent €1000 on a FAIR 16gauge jubilee. How do I find out how old it is and if the price was ok? (First time buyer).
@dg20120
@dg20120 Жыл бұрын
@@GG-jw8pt The date of manufacture can be obtained by contacting the manufacturer. The value depends on your local or regional market. It’s worth what someone will pay for it. You’ll need the model number and then search the local market to see what it’s going for. If you’re in the U.S. and it’s in good shape, you probably got a deal.
@jameswilson6717
@jameswilson6717 Жыл бұрын
You and Ed are the dream team simple.All the very best 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@bartram33
@bartram33 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 682 gold e for £995 recently, 32” sporter, cased, original chokes. Well used but still an absolute joy to handle and shoot, lovely wood and still looks good despite its age (2003) they’re still out there, might look for a 30” now as well.
@adrianbird4116
@adrianbird4116 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Ed Lyons comments on the glasses really hit home. I know it’s his job and he should know what he’s talking about 😊but it made a lot of sense. I have a new pair of vari focals and really struggled the other day to even see the targets on one stand in particular in a shootable position. Maybe time to look at some ‘made for shooting’ glasses?
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy to help if needed 😎💥💥
@gnarshread
@gnarshread Жыл бұрын
I struggle to articulate to my ophthalmologist what I need in a pair of sunglasses. Short of walking into his office with a gun, I don't think he'll ever really understand.
@neilbrailsford4882
@neilbrailsford4882 Жыл бұрын
johnny you did look poorly sat in that buggy glad your on the mend. got to sort a consultation with Edd to sort my eye problem out great film
@Retired-Tom
@Retired-Tom Жыл бұрын
Very interested in the glasses, i wear polarised vari focals and yes, find myself looking over the top
@glenns7139
@glenns7139 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as usual. I love these budget gun reviews. Keep it up Johnny
@andrewhilditch4036
@andrewhilditch4036 Жыл бұрын
I had a 682X in 30 then a 682X in 32” couldn’t shoot either of them! Changed to a 3800 32” and my scores improved significantly.
@Blondejam
@Blondejam Жыл бұрын
Cracking bit of kit. Hope you are over your illness, keep up the good work!
@frankcasey1673
@frankcasey1673 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you back fit and healthy Johnny great video guys 👍
@RockBandEclipse
@RockBandEclipse Жыл бұрын
Got a 682 super sport last year for £600 its really hard to miss with, only 28 inch barrels but i like the speed and balance. There are some bargains out there if you're in the right place at the right time. Another great vid and its good to know youre feeling better now.
@grahamsimpkins1540
@grahamsimpkins1540 Жыл бұрын
Great video TGS I did like them glass !! Hope your all fit and well Now Johnny!!
@johnh8197
@johnh8197 Жыл бұрын
Hey Johnny! First off, thank for another great video. You always do such a great job. I would to see you review the newest Browning Citori, Hunter Grade 1. I think it come out late 2021 or maybe 2022. I bought the first one my local shop received. I installed a 1/2” spacer and purchased a full set of Midas grade extended, choke tubes. It was a very affordable option, and I absolutely love it. I use it for clay games as well as upland hunting. Please give it a look, I value your opinion.
@GonzoTheRosarian
@GonzoTheRosarian Жыл бұрын
Get well soon Jonny! Great video, you have excellent friends to step up to the plate!
@peterreece2340
@peterreece2340 Жыл бұрын
My favourite Italian Trap gun. Even over that real expensive one you see on the range quite often.
@tomski0007
@tomski0007 Жыл бұрын
With a birthday coming I know what's top of my list. Might not be able to shoot as well as you guys but can definitely look as cool with a set of them glasses. Glad you feeling better Mr C you did look like you was struggling. Another top video.
@markbucher7609
@markbucher7609 Жыл бұрын
Great video and review. Keep on keeping on Johnny, I just wish we had gun shops like your's here in the US
@patricksmith7574
@patricksmith7574 Жыл бұрын
Solid video, thank your guests as well.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
They held this one together! Would have been a slow and groan filled filled video if it was down to me that day
@patricksmith7574
@patricksmith7574 Жыл бұрын
They definitely stepped up on this one, hope as is well for ya.
@JHruby
@JHruby Жыл бұрын
WTH Johnny. Hope you are all right.
@greeno1961
@greeno1961 Жыл бұрын
Superb video as usual Jonny, Hope your back up to speed after your hospital visit, Looking forward to the next video
@mattwright2964
@mattwright2964 5 ай бұрын
Had various clay guns, mostly Beretta and the 682 30" I had was by far the best. Just seemed to work for me.
@assclown4570
@assclown4570 Жыл бұрын
Jonny,that sounded serious,you ok? Hope your better!! Prayers your way!
@user-bd6nm7du2j
@user-bd6nm7du2j 5 ай бұрын
very new to shooting here........Ed's.............love your sartorial style!
@FeckArseIndustries
@FeckArseIndustries Жыл бұрын
Johny looked like he'd been 'at one with nature' in the trees! Up close and personal with the dot leaves.
@tallboy49
@tallboy49 Жыл бұрын
I have a 682 gold e and it is fantastic. A little on the heavy side but one learns to deal with it.
@tempestmkiv
@tempestmkiv Жыл бұрын
That's a great buy! I've had several 682's and they are wonderful guns!
@hunter827
@hunter827 Жыл бұрын
I own a 1988 682 sporting and adore it! Beautiful gun easy to shoot
@johnroland6679
@johnroland6679 Ай бұрын
Great video. I wish I could find that in the states.
@mallardcutter7209
@mallardcutter7209 Жыл бұрын
Saw Ed in the thumbnail and knew it was going to be a great video !
@bikeronnie
@bikeronnie Жыл бұрын
Not that I’ve ever thought Mr Lyon’s was an ugly bugga but……….. daaayyyymmmm, when he whipped them specs off!! 😂😂😂
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 Жыл бұрын
Thanks…I think? 😂
@Greentank11
@Greentank11 Жыл бұрын
i shoot the 682 supersport and i have won multiple competitions with it, better than most of my other guns! And only £700ish
@Rattlecanjeff
@Rattlecanjeff Жыл бұрын
Can’t get that gun in the US that cheap! Hope you’ve recovered from your illness. Love the channel.
@the45er
@the45er Жыл бұрын
In the U.S. that would be $1019 today. I would say that it would be almost impossible to find a Beretta 682 in any workable condition for that amount. That shotgun, if you could find it, would be in the $24-2800 range.
@ShotawayFilms
@ShotawayFilms Жыл бұрын
Looks like the cat is out of the bag on the glasses.Get well soon JC.The Beretta you want is the F.I.T.A.S.C. Edition.A real gem for sporting birds.....with or without feathers..
@spencerchurchyard7755
@spencerchurchyard7755 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jonny, good to here from professionals. I always believe spend a few quid @ a good shooting school & learn the basics before tackling difficult clays. You will feel a lot more confident. Keep the videos coming especially with the professionals.
@starfruitscuba5338
@starfruitscuba5338 Жыл бұрын
Never a bad video!
@matthewdeepblue
@matthewdeepblue Жыл бұрын
If I need a balancing lens in the glasses, would that be a problem? I've got one bad left eye
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 Жыл бұрын
No problem at all!
@crookedarrow3535
@crookedarrow3535 Жыл бұрын
Two weeks in the hospital sounds serious! Glad you are on the mend… you are on the mend, right?
@WMsaintT10
@WMsaintT10 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to make it to the Jack Link's Cup in Feb Johnny?
@G78.
@G78. Жыл бұрын
Great video Jonny hope you’re feeling better mate
@jamesmartin3914
@jamesmartin3914 Жыл бұрын
wanted a 32" hard to find usa, but i have handle and shot 30" barrel also seen trap combo's
@paulwilson7234
@paulwilson7234 4 ай бұрын
TGS would you ever consider doing a review on the Beretta ASE gold sporter?
@danielbarwell569
@danielbarwell569 Жыл бұрын
Just picked picked up a 682 trap for just under £700 as my first gun.. mostly because of this video 🙈
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@deanriley5690
@deanriley5690 4 ай бұрын
I like the aa12 for trap shooting
@paulharter2343
@paulharter2343 Жыл бұрын
One of the best/solid guns ever built. And ,yes, I own one, so maybe a little biased 😉
@fullchoke01
@fullchoke01 Жыл бұрын
I'd happily take a 682 over a new 686 and have a tough choice against a 694, the 682 era was when beretta actually put passion into gunmaking, and yes can get a number of world level guns for peanuts, miroku 3800, winchester 6500, 682, 425, nikko shadow, all where shot by world champions
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Жыл бұрын
There can be only one Ed 😉 great vid JC 💪
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 Жыл бұрын
Thanks but Ed S is okay too! 😂
@majestic._
@majestic._ 6 күн бұрын
What make vest is Lyons wearing?
@robpowell9162
@robpowell9162 Жыл бұрын
How to hide a sponsor sales video for glasses as a gun review 😂 Jonny, great hybrid video and if it pays for more content then keep them coming! I wasn't a fan of the gun scope, but curious to what's next! If you're not fully tied to Hull, would be good to see a cart review (Barbury mixed shot cart, B&P returning to market etc)
@K80Ed
@K80Ed Жыл бұрын
Not especially hidden…!
@robpowell9162
@robpowell9162 Жыл бұрын
@@K80Ed indeed. I'm ok with it by the way, the videography is still ultra premium compared to all over channels
@chris10699
@chris10699 Жыл бұрын
What happened to Johnny? Why was he in hospital for so long??? Take care and speedy recovery ❤️‍🩹 🙏
@charliedillon6319
@charliedillon6319 Жыл бұрын
I find this very interesting. I got a beretta scroll when I was 18. Brought it new and the guy that sold it to me said it fitted me almost perfect for it not being a fitted gun. Now I have picked up and shot a lot of guns and 70% hit ratio on live game I don’t think is too bad. My first and still favourite gun is a Niko shadow. I maybe wrong but it is very cheap. However back when I used to shoot a lot of clays 85-90% was an okay day with my good days being around 95% out of 50 clays. My beretta on the other hand the last time I shot clays I shot shot 3 out of 25…. Went sod this and went home. Not fun. I’ve had it out on the pigeons and live shoots since and again I stuggle to hit anything. As I say ever other gun I pick up I am usually fine with. The only difference which I can put it down too is the guy said you should be able to put a pound coin on the receiver/chamber and all you should see is the beed at the end. Every other gun I shoot with my eye is flat to the rib. I added a spacer to my gun to bring my eye down and shot 75% last time I went out with it. This is very frustrating to me and too still not be able to shoot great with a gun I’ve owned for 4 years now is a joke 🤣 any help ?
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need that stock adjusted!
@johngeorge2081
@johngeorge2081 Жыл бұрын
Great candidate for a MR or similar stock as a shooter grows in ability. Solid first or second gun.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Teague chokes and a MR stock
@adensmore100
@adensmore100 6 ай бұрын
great vid. did you have your appendix taken out? hope your better!
@duck_rifle5879
@duck_rifle5879 10 ай бұрын
Came for the shotgun and left with a trio of man crushes......
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@alvaropastora1147
@alvaropastora1147 6 ай бұрын
I see all three of you wearing different ear protection what brand are they and what are the differences between them
@forddude1976
@forddude1976 Жыл бұрын
Johnny really didn't look well, pleased his well again
@sofalugger
@sofalugger Жыл бұрын
Am 1/2 shooting a Nikko Shadow Trap...£300.00 its 95% condition too!!
@ryanmccarthy1215
@ryanmccarthy1215 Жыл бұрын
What happened to you Jonny C? 🙈 You certainly didn't look yourself but glad to hear you're sorted now
@Incountry
@Incountry Жыл бұрын
How times can you say “Kit”…?
@MrSeamus1964
@MrSeamus1964 Жыл бұрын
I am glad you have mended, 2 Weeks 😮
@bentleyfatheree1616
@bentleyfatheree1616 Жыл бұрын
One of the best guns ever made. A used 682 in the states is significantly more .
@carson7wayne
@carson7wayne 7 ай бұрын
What kind of recoil reducer do they use.Is the dead mule any gd
@raducirstoiu2253
@raducirstoiu2253 Жыл бұрын
It would have been so awesome for Ed to elaborate on what he would have spent those 150 pounds on that gun to improve it (as a person looking into buying a 682 myself).
@RobGreenside
@RobGreenside 10 ай бұрын
Adjustable comb for sure !
@AnthonyNewman-pq3el
@AnthonyNewman-pq3el Жыл бұрын
you two boys look like models johnny looked like death warmed up ! hope he is ok 👋
@rudyelizondo1935
@rudyelizondo1935 10 ай бұрын
Great vid as always. Please tell me where you bought this great deal shotgun, I live in Texas and all our shotguns sell for a lot more!
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors 10 ай бұрын
I got this one at the Barbury Gun Room
@paulwilson7234
@paulwilson7234 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video 👌
@dukeneverwinter
@dukeneverwinter Жыл бұрын
i want that jacket.....
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 Жыл бұрын
It’s a cracker! Speak to Simon at Clements & Church Bham 👍
@canbrit4621
@canbrit4621 Жыл бұрын
how about a vid with them handling a true budget gun not just an old premium that has aged into budget. I think that's what most people think when referring to budget. Still a good vid tho well done.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Not sure we wouldn’t end up in court if we put a budget new Turkish gun in Ed’s hands and let the honesty flow.
@danjamison3727
@danjamison3727 Жыл бұрын
Have a 682 Super Sport Beautiful gun Paid £1000 But was trading a gun in well pleased Another great video great to see you back to normal whatever that is Ha ha
@jh1982a
@jh1982a Жыл бұрын
great video....get well and shoot more
@franciscojaviercolonrentas5982
@franciscojaviercolonrentas5982 11 ай бұрын
Tremenda escopeta muy precisa y no da problema de nada la recomiendo
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 9 ай бұрын
Ok, so which gun is this?
@skovlykke1000
@skovlykke1000 9 ай бұрын
have you tryed the catma arms 505 erd
@James-ln2dc
@James-ln2dc Жыл бұрын
Hey Ed & Ed question here. Are the glasses impact resistant or shatter protected in any way more than a standard pair of optical glasses? I always get a little nagging voice in the back of my mind when I pull out my standard optical glasses to use instead of protective glasses for shooting👀
@K80Ed
@K80Ed Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, highest level of impact resistance!
@James-ln2dc
@James-ln2dc Жыл бұрын
@@K80Ed Cheers mate! Now I just have to choose between Hiroki or Milans. PS love any and all your videos with Johnny. Learn so much every time
@K80Ed
@K80Ed Жыл бұрын
@@James-ln2dcif it’s more a shooting frame then Hiroki for sure, more leisure with the odd shot then Milan!
@toddcollins4329
@toddcollins4329 Жыл бұрын
Ed, what about prism in a lenses with your glasses? Any issues?
@edlyonssportsvision9197
@edlyonssportsvision9197 10 ай бұрын
Should be fine!!
@silvershroud9291
@silvershroud9291 Жыл бұрын
seems to be a big push for 32inch barrels, would 30 be the sweet spot?
@K80Ed
@K80Ed Жыл бұрын
30” is fine for your regular club shooters
@mikepurdy3952
@mikepurdy3952 25 күн бұрын
32" Barrels 😂 Sounds like You're "Over-Compensating" for something... 😂
@matthewfenton8775
@matthewfenton8775 Жыл бұрын
Would you class a Miroku mk38 as world class gun?
@peterbalac1915
@peterbalac1915 Жыл бұрын
After watching this video im am definitely in the market for a new gun, B,,blunderbuss 😢
@ddoherty5956
@ddoherty5956 Жыл бұрын
Elderkins in Spalding have one but I don't think it's for sale 😉
@leepearce4742
@leepearce4742 Жыл бұрын
I think I remember this gun from a certain members day earlier in the year 🤔
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
😬
@RuanEllis
@RuanEllis Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, the trigger is terrifyingly light!!
@dankruger2890
@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын
I like that gun
@charlesdouglas2877
@charlesdouglas2877 Жыл бұрын
What is a competition gun?
@frosty-nl1jb
@frosty-nl1jb Жыл бұрын
a great video
@ddoherty5956
@ddoherty5956 Жыл бұрын
Was it £800 because you're in the trade Jonny or was that retail?
@682GoldE79
@682GoldE79 Жыл бұрын
Shhhh, stop telling everyine about 682's, there'll be less around for me! Got a 30" X-Trap, Gold & Gold E, i'd like a Supersport.
@jamieponder8750
@jamieponder8750 Жыл бұрын
Hey!….wanna make a cheeky £200…you don’t want another cab queen😂
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
😂 why not! Before it goes rusty and dusty
@jamieponder8750
@jamieponder8750 Жыл бұрын
Is that….why not!( yeah I’ll take ya money)….or why not! ( nah she’s a keeper)😊…..I’m currently looking at a Zoli Mid rib….apparently my 694 doesn’t like me now the summers here….likes me in more clothes😅….that looks like a great gun to ‘Frankenstein’ get things right at lower cost
@mchughcb
@mchughcb Жыл бұрын
Not feeling too well and 2 weeks on hospital? Either its serious or the NHS is seriously understaffed
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
The NHS did a great job, I was just unaware of how bad I was.
@mchughcb
@mchughcb Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors Mum always said we are just one blood test away from deaths door. God speed
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoorssevere dehydration?
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