*Sad Canadian Noises*

Nail yakupov has never been alive for a Canadian teams Stanley cup win and he's wayyyy out of the league

@@lanemarsOilers have had lots of high picks, this century. Nail nailed his own NHL cough cough in

Now that you've put it that way...

Think it's just bad luck for canadian teams

Yea!

The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.

@@Borodin410 This is the dumbest thing I have read today. Thank you.

@@brAnd7onX87 Look it up. Canadian teams, before Bettman, were penalized in an even distribution. Ever since Bettman took over they are all collected near the top of the league in penalties.

@@Borodin410 Sure thing buddy lmao. That explains why the Ducks, Panthers, Coyotes, and Wild were top 4 in penalties and Montreal was 5th, Ottawa was 6th and they both have an enforcer on board so it makes sense why they're near the top. You clearly don't like the fact that Winnipeg was near the bottom of the league in terms of penalized teams. Most of the Canadian teams were more so in the middle for last season. It's kind of funny you clear the NHL wants to help their newer markets when the Islanders, Penguins, and Blues were some of the least penalized teams in the league, and it makes sense. It's almost like if your team holds an enforcer or a very physical player (or multiple), your team will take more penalties wow who would have thought!!

@@HarryRiceHockey One season in isolation. Look at penalties taken in the playoffs by Canadian teams vs US teams since Bettman took over.

I've always thought it'd be Winnipeg or Ottawa to break the curse, just because that'd be funniest and no one would expect it

@dustyb58 many variables would be funny if the Jets won, no doubt. But the Leafs doing it would "piss off" the most people. For suuuuuuure 😂 Im a Canucks fan btw 🙃

Leafs would piss off the most people by winning.

Edmonton or Toronto for me.

Why

Low-key a better name than Yeti or Blizzard😂

Utah HG > Utah HC

@@LSA30 Yeti is betther than Hockey Club or Blizzard

...and none since 98...

LGRW 🐙🐙🐙🐙

And three game sevens in a row in the SCF during the mid-2000's.

​@@DodgerFan1988 The last two of them having teams from the south winning their first Cup while defeating Alberta teams whose last cups came back-to-back (Calgary in '89 and Edmonton in '90)

And that team (Baltimore Stallions) moved to Montreal after winning the Grey Cup.

The Baltimore Stallions’ success played a HUGE role in us getting the Ravens not long after

They saw to it in the CFL that An American based team made it to the Grey Cup, right out of the gate. Much like they did with the NHL during their 1968 expansion. The NHL actively works to ensure we see 2 American based teams whenever they can. The day before the League looked the other way on the Wayne Gretzky High stick that cut Doug Gilmour under his chin for 7 stitches, in OT of game 6 of the 93 Conference Final, with the Leaf's up 3 games to 2 and Montreal already clinching as the Eastern Conference representative, the American Networks had announced that their would be no Stanley Cup Final coverage if it were to be the Leaf's vs Hab's. Gretzky should have got 5 and a game and the Leaf's who were short handed at the time, should have had a 4 minute PP after about a minute of 4 on 4 had expired. But the Kings were protected and there was no call and Gretzky himself was allowed to stay on the ice and score the Kings PP OT winner, seconds later. That happened, whether you like it or not. BTW, the Leaf's swept the season series with the Hab's that year. A Finals against them would have been a favorable match-up for Toronto.

Also keep in mind that the Blue Jays won the World Series twice, the Raptors won the NBA Finals, and Toronto FC has won the MLS cup in the meantime

​@BloodRider1914 well the jays last world championship was in 93. Ironically the same year Montreal won the Stanley cup. So it's also been 31 years since a Canadian team won an MLB world series, granted the blue jays are the only Canadian team currently, but the Montreal Expos didn't move to Washington until 2005.

@@ja3188 I was coming here to say this. I was surprised that he missed that. THG is usually so accurate

I always forget that Gretzky didn't win one down there

yeah also as THG pointed the League would lose money by rigging games

Bettman works for money. more money to be made in the US hence he is inclined to support conditions that support the US.

​@@TheHeston83and Hockey seems like an incredibly hard game to rig. Especially considering the amount of staff needed to run these games, the outcomes being pre-determined WITHOUT ever being leaked seems like an impossibility

​@@davidwordsworth5584Isn't Toronto the 2nd most profitable franchise? Montreal is up there too. If he wanted money he'd send those teams to the finals and would cash in BIG time

It's not a single force preventing canadian forces from winning, it's alot of factors, namely higher taxes, and its a sheer numbers game at the end of the day, there's only 7 canadian teams of 32 teams, and even before expansions, there have generally been more American teams, that skews the odds in American teams' favor.

Bettman put an end to that nonsense lol.....As a Habs fan he's gotta go

@@BMXIX In the case of the Canadiens, they have qualifications irrelevant to competence in building a team, unique to their team, that may keep them from hiring the best man for coach, GM, team president, etc. That is, they have to speak French. It seems to me this is also the case with other Canadian teams. Not the "speak French" part, but political (and business) considerations that have nothing to do with running a hockey team keep them from hiring the best man for the job. US teams usually aren't held to the same constraints and this has helped them be more successful over the last 30 years.

@@BMXIX Right….. bettman Sure thing

Yeah, if you were to tell someone in 1984 or something that Canadian teams wouldn't hoist the Stanley Cup for an unbroken period of 31 FUCKING YEARS, they'd probably think you were on something. It's utterly bizarre.

@@RRaquello if you really look at it, it’s just that dynasties were easier to assemble then, and it just happened that two of them were home in Canadian cities.

i was about to comment to same thing but i’m only half way through so i wasn’t sure if he was guna fix it or not lol

@@justinz39sabres Took 45 years

Agreed. However, the 2001 finals stang worse for me. That collapse after taking a 3-2 lead in the series and with game 6 at home was surreal.

habs did something no other team has been able to or will ever be able to do again....an eastern team won the western trophy

As a Sabres fan, I think the series would be called off at 3-3 so neither team would win. Sigh. 😢

My headcanon is that Bettman impishly traipses around the locker rooms during the playoffs, pulling sick pranks on the Canadian NHL teams Like, electric shocker in his palm for handshakes, a lapel flower that sprays water, whoopee cushions on the benches…the whole nine yards

I don't hate Vegas, they have real hockey fans there who do properly love their team.

Didn't the the Flames and Oilers take it to 7 games in 2004 and 6? Calling that a fluke when Flames MIGHT'VE scored a cup winning goal that wasn't called.... Idk man

@@beaverchicken ehh it was pretty much a fluke looking back at it now. 2004 was their first time they made it past Round 1 since their cup win, they had missed the playoffs about 6 or 7 seasons in a row before 2004, and they didn't even make it past Round 1 again until 2015. I'd say that's a fluke run

@@beaverchicken i wouldnt call them flukes but id call them goalie epic runs tho

2024 oilers wasn’t a fluke either you don’t get to game 7 of the SCF by luck

Vancouver isn't making the playoffs in 24/25

The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.

@@Borodin410 bad calls happen its not some conspiracy you just posted teams have been just good please I am american hockey fan stop making us the enemy

@@TheHeston83 Before Bettman came in with the expansion mandate, Canadian teams were evenly distributed among the other teams in the league in terms of taking penalties. After Bettman, and since, Canadian teams have collected near the top of the league in taking penalties. The refs know what they're doing. So does Bettman.

@@Borodin410your claim is demonstrably false. Please stop.

@@Borodin410 Okay…so how does any of that explain Edmonton not being able to shoot a puck with accuracy into the net Game 7?

I hope Montreal

Vancouver has also had 2 x game 7 L's during the drought

@@Frizzyy I see 5 Game 7 loses by Canadian teams Oilers x2 Canucks x2 Flames x1

And those two teams were both from the American South

There's 32 teams in the league after all, if the Cup was awarded on a rotation, each team would win once in 32 years. But since that's not how it's done and the same teams win multiple times, there just have to be a lot of teams with long droughts.

And it’s been 16 years

I am a Sens fan, I remember most people I talked to said we needed to be perfect in the SCF against them, and even still it might not be enough. That Anaheim Team was complete from the net out in every way, we were lucky to win 1 game against them

Young Bobby Ryan in his prime, a young Corey Perry in his prime, Getzlaf in his prime, Silferberg in his prime, Scott Neidermayer and Chris Pronger as your top d pair, that Anaheim team was killer

@@nathanbrisebois8756 Bobby Ryan wasn't on the Cup winning Anaheim team.

@@nathanbrisebois8756 You clearly dont have a good memory lmfao. Bobby Ryan "in his prime"... you sure? Dude Bobby Ryan wasn't even on the team, let alone "in his prime". Ryan was *just* drafted in 2005. Silfverberg in his prime?? Bro, Silfverberg wasn't even drafted yet he was 16 years old, when Anaheim won the cup. Ottawa drafted Silfverberg in the second round in 2009 and traded him to the ducks in 2013... he wasn't even a duck until 2013... yet somehow you remember him beating your Sens in 2007...??

@@CrimsonicStorm daydrunk my bad

Your smiling because a Canadian team hasn't won in over 30 years? Nice.

@@adam.vision bit funny, innit?

I always say that the Wild is practically a Canadian team with the hockey culture. Sad to see the curse extends to it too...

Just off the top of my head, Avs had MacKinnon and Erik Johnson for the most recent one (though obviously they didn’t draft Johnson), Penguins had two (Crosby and Fleury) along with 2nd overall (behind Ovi) Evgeni Malkin, Capitals had Ovi.

Exactly 😂

Pavel Bure was one, I guess? Vancouver in general seems to be incorporating plenty of russian players. So does Montreal I think. Markov and Emelin were the staples of their defence for years. Kovalev also played there significant time. Teams like Jets, Oilers, Flames don't use a lot of russian players indeed (although Oilers tried to draft Yakupov, to their credit. Did not end well for them). But I think they are just more canadian-leaning in general. I saw a chart that showed this year's Oliers were almost entirely canadian, which is pretty rare in today's league. Also, on the other hand, Boston is one of the least russian-friendly teams in the league, and they've been doing relatively well in the last 15 years. So I'm not sure there are any grand conspiracies in this regard.

Pavel Bure for the Canucks (and he did play for them in the drought era).

@@andreylopatin7230 I was referring to a more recent trend of SC winners, say in the last decade. The examples you gave me, like Bure (retired in 2003) and Boston (last SC cup in 2011), do not really address my point of recent SC winners having Russian superstars. Markov and Emelin were decent players, but not on the level of Russian superstars I gave in my list. I still stand by my hypothesis.

@@ishave1627some of the guys you mentioned were can’t-miss top draft picks so Canadian teams didn’t have a chance at them unless it was via free agency years into their careers. And although I can’t speak for every team, my Avs never had a key Russian player during any of their Cup runs. I remember one Russian being on the 96 squad but he wasn’t a top player.

@@MDK2_Radio I'm not saying you absolutely need a Russian superstar to win the Cup (like your Avs). And I know some of those players were top draft picks. but Kucherov was drafted 58th, so every team had a shot at him, Vasilevsky 19th, Tarasenko 16th and Bobrovsky was undrafted. And some Canadian teams have been pretty bad over the years so it can't be argued they didn't have high draft picks. The biggest implication here is that if certain teams exclusively "neglect" a geographical area containing high-end players, they're not availing themselves of the best talent pool. I don't know what goes on in the war rooms of Canadian NHL teams, and I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly said, it's just that it struck me as a pretty obvious roster coincidence that all of the Canadian teams don't seem to have Russian superstars.

Why? I hope the Cup naturalizes and renounces its Title so it just becomes Fred Stanley's Cup.

and therrien

What are some of your other superstitions?

Must be something in the waters of Lake Ontario.

Tell me about it (says this Sabres fan). I’m coming to terms with never seeing a Championship (Bills included). But it’s OK as long as (1) Toronto never wins (2) Vancouver (expansion twin) only wins after a Sabres miracle.

I dunno man Ottawa feels real cursed.

It's on a team by team basis. Here's my crackpot analysis Habs: After Roy left management never undertook a full rebuild and the Habs were mostly a yo-yo playoff team with some occasional strong performances (Carey Price's mostly), but it took until Bergevin's firing to get good management. Sens: An absolute joke of a franchise at times which got to the finals once but has suffered from serious underinvestment. Leafs: Literally the worst management in the NHL under Ballard which polluted the franchise. They've been contending for nearly a decade at this point but have weak fan-pleasing management. Jets: No one wants to play in Winnipeg, it's that simple. Oilers: After 2006 they had a mixture of awful luck and poor management which led to a long enforced rebuild, but since then they at least got lucky with the draft in 2015 (after the Yakopov disaster) but have struggled until recently with depth. Flames: I don't know as much about them other than that they got fucked by Tkatchuk but they're going into a rebuild probably so ehh. Canucks: Good teams that just can't get over the hump, but I see them contending from now on.

When the avs won it again in ‘22 landeskog was also one of the best captains in the league at the time

@@Colton_Dane yeah, but I wouldn’t put him with the 4 I mentioned, which is not a slight.

Madness on both ends

yep and 440 are good V8 engines....in engine you need ....OIL!...Oilers win next year! 😂

Yeah….. Real big brained comment there Feel free to expand on your conspiracy

Tell me you don't know how probability works without saying it outright

@@OldDistantHermit It’s incredible mental gymnastics

@@father042 They're shimmering stickers. Don't know the technical term, but they have some special finish to reflect light

Once Canadian teams are in the final, anything can happen. The fact that they're 0-7 is an anomaly Gary continually expanding the league though into the US is a big problem for Canadian teams. It's more teams to play against, free agents going elsewhere, draft picks going south etc. All this for American cities where the NHL is the #4 or #5 sports league in town. Edmonton was a street party for three weeks

This would be a great analysis if they didn’t sweep the panthers in ‘96 in the final. And obliterate the oilers in round 3 in ‘22

There was no struggle in any of their Cup runs. NJ were a great team in 01 so it took 7 games but it wasn’t a struggle.