Interesting

2007 Speedweeks and 2013 Spingate

The team Clint Bowyer nearly won the championship with.

They’re known for spin gate

Spingate 2013 Finishing 2nd in the standings in 2012 with Clint Bowyer Going from an Underfunded joke into a Competitive Toyota team(until Spingate happened) 2007 Speedweeks

It's like Senna saying if you don't go for a gap that exists but in a more technical way...

@@s21b0b lol if you do not go for the gap you are no longer a racecar driver... after senna intentionally wrecked Alan prost for the world championship.... aryton 😁 GOAT

@@joeyjohnson4826 ANd this is why Nascar and F1 was good with the Waltrips, DEI and jeff at least the spirit lives on at the iRacing stuff

@@Bitterman5868 and then there's Maldonado, who makes the gap himself, even in F1

@@truedarklander nah Maldonado just sends it into any car

I posit that the "cheating" was so poorly done, plus the animosity toward Toyota's introduction, that it has to be sabotage.

Karma

Honestly I feel that there is some back door NASCAR politics. Plenty of good ol boys cheat and help their team Ted every race. But NASCAR always seems to turn a blind eye to specific teams and burn others for everything.

You are completely off just like everybody else. It was not a orchestrated deal. Ty Norris was talking to one driver trying to get him to pit while a whole different thing was going on with bowyer it was 2 separate incidents and for two different reasons. It was not what the media lied and said. Every team in nascar was doing it. Ty Norris said a Hendricks car kept faking mechanical problems on the track to manipulate the race. Bowyer and his spotter and ty and the driver he told to pit it was not related at all. It was a crucial point in the race and so it happened at the same time along with 3 other teams faked stuff simultaneously as the mwr incident. It was every team in nascar doing it. But because they ran two radio loops together it made it appear they were on the same radio doing it. The reality ty Norris had no clue what bowyers spotter was telling him to do. Ty did tell the one to pit to do something with a lap. But they got thrown to the wolves when literally 4 teams did the same thing as them during this race but the media or someone covered it up.

Nah Rule 1 of cheating now is to just do it with NASCAR's favortism. Its blanant. Just look at Chase Elliott the past few weeks.

Yeah too bad he wasn't as talented as a driver than he was a talker but either way it was Soo funny

@@travisshort7929 Dale Jr was a very talented driver....you go out and try to race Mr smartypants

@@travisshort7929 He was talented, but had major medical issues. To hear what he was dealing with is scary. I can't believe he raced for so many seasons like that.

@@travisshort7929 little fact for ya. Out of all the NASCAR drivers ever to run a race, junior is 32nd all time in win. The best ever? Absolutely not. But very talented and only someone who either doesn’t know the history of NASCAR or someone who just hates him for no reason, would think otherwise.

2 time Bush champion, 2 time Daytona 500 champion, 5 straight wins a Talladega. Yeah every driver does that right,

He did say that was crazy

Very diplomatic lol

Though what?!

@@cjr1881 tbh Idk why I wrote "though" at the end of this comment.

If you aint cheatin you aint tryin

Yeah Toyota in it’s first year was actually trash, kinda crazy how they’ve grown from then.

@@vanguardtrainer924 they didn't land any big team the first year, that was their biggest issue. Then Gibbs didn't want to play second fiddle in the Chevy camp to Hendrick so they changed. And here we are LOL

@@vanguardtrainer924 however closest to a win in 2007 was actually Red Bull with Vickers. They hit the setup just right in the 600 and were one of the fastest cars that race, then he lost power steering. I felt so bad when that happened. Yea Blaney was 3rd at Talladega in the fall but Vickers' run in the 600 was more impressive.

@@doomusrlc Dave Blaney was a tremendous sprint car driver.

@@1USACitizen192 yea just his Nascar stats are... lacking, to put it lightly, haha. I'm not denying his skills, just don't think he was suited to Nascar.

Is that true? How?

@@the_elmeister infraction

Actually no, it was 25 points however he finished 19th, and that gave 25 points, it was a coincidence

@Jacob Hendrickse creates no incentive for new teams to arrive at the sport, makes established teams secure of their spots and allows awful teams to have guaranteed spots if they have one charter (RWR as a example). The Charter system is just a way Kauffman found to get his money from MWR back after helping the team's demise.

Yep just ask Ty Dillon

NASCAR can get rid of the charter system any time they want to, but they won't for some reason.

@@Gucesarl charters offer guaranteed money to its holders, offering an incentive to new owners like Spire, 23XI, and Trackhouse

*Modern, and I prefaced that they aren’t the best due to being caught lol

Didn't Joe Gibbs or somebody else have a Flexible rear part right before the rear spoiler at Talladega the first year they had the car spoiler reduced to 50% of the year before in 2010's, the NASCAR people had to fix this and make the spoiler bigger for the superspeedways and then bigger due to Talladega. If Talladega were removed from all racing on at least the big oval and forced to race the road course, there would be no loss for me as all almost all racing wants to have the big wreak at Talladega superspeedway. Then remove the non road track part and move grandstands around to fit the new designed track.

@@caseysmith544 yea hass did that

@@cadenchristiansen3553 Okay I was not really watching that year at Superspeedways due to the low downforce being removed for the year prior and that year the incident happened. I just know a team did that in 2010's sometime. Also do not really watch Talladega much now due to basically the track waiting for the big wreak and being a big line of cars stuck in one train.

@@caseysmith544 talledega is not really the train anymore also yea there are big crashes but the finishes always pay off with amazing photo finishes

1 year later: The Spingate occurs and Bowyer's career start to decline.

And he’s still the worst driver of my lifetime with a career in elite to mid tier cars

told the truth.

Oh don't start that with me! And this guy didn't even mention the related controversy where Joey Logano robbed Gordon of a Chase spot due to Penske and Front Row collaborating

Can you give a timeline? I've never heard of that

Mmmmmmm. Boyer team cheated caused him title I think

@@ToumapassarZEZOCA the 2012 saga: Martinsville 2012 Spring, 6 laps remaining. Jeff Gordon is leading and Jimmie Johnson is second. David Reutimann, driving the 10 for Tommy Baldwin Racing, is having an engine go up in smoke. The problem is, if Reutimann goes behind the wall, a car will pass them and they will wind up being 36th in owner points for the next race. After bypassing the pits with an easy route in once or twice, the car gives out and stalls headed into turn 1. Caution flies. After Pit Stops, Gordon, Johnson, and Bowyer are the top 3. On the restart, Bowyer kamikazes, wrecking Gordon, Johnson, and himself, enabling Ryan Newman to slip by and win on the ensuing restart. Now, this win would have been a milestone for HMS, I think #200. Hendrick later stated he flew out executives to this race in case this momentous occasion would have happened. Gordon is livid, and puts it in the memory bank. After a few more brushes on track throughout the year, it all culminates at November Phoenix. Gordon, after Bowyer races him hard and cuts a tire down, has had enough. Under green, Gordon sandbags until the 15 comes around, making a right and wrecking himself, Bowyer, Logano, and Almirola. At the time before the incident, Bowyer was about 18-25 points back from Keselowski. After the race, Bowyer is down (I believe) 48 points. Ultimately, Brad wins the championship as Bowyer placed second, and Johnson blows a transmission, making Brad K the 2012 champion. So, indirectly, Reutimann sets off a chain event where Jeff Gordon removes Bowyer from championship contention. As a Gordon fan, I want to say Jeff did it because he was mad at Clint, not because he was trying to enable a 2 car showdown between Brad and Johnson, as one theory states. As to whether I think what Gordon did was right or wrong, I don’t know. As for a suspension? Well, Kenseth got suspended 3 races in 2015 for the same incident, when only Logano paid for it. So, regardless of my personal opinion, NASCAR was inconsistent in their rulings.

@@emmettm7482 wow. Crazy stuff. Sounds to me like Gordon did it on purpose. He loves Hendrick motorsports. I think he's taking over when Rick steps down

It not only killed this team but Toyota long term with seat issues and a gut of talent they have.

But it sparked MTJ career

@@IrvinAlvarado44 Yep until some teams Dropped Ford for Toyota or Doge left NASCAR entirely.

@@crazybut6641 true it did land him first Furniture Row then Gibbs but at same idea he may have done a stellar early playoff run at MWR run maybe a cup run in the team???? Oooooo

Micheal Waltrip ----------------- Worst poker face ever

I agree they were on p o I n t

@@CertainlyCaro he turned extremely hard left at the 4th left hand corner he saw

Mikey:pronto,clint Clint:yes mikey Mikey:s🅱innala Clint:why Mikey:truex isn't the chase yet,just s🅱in or your fired Clint:*sigh*fine

Pronto 🅱️owyer? S🅱️innala.

It is 2 Ns, not 2 Ls

@@zikalokof1challenge414 It’s right

They shouldn’t be in nascar, T0y0dErS are well built reliably cars, a Camry !! Wtf?? And now they’re doing Supra bodies, so I guess BMW is basically in.

It is weird how when Toyota’s are in the lead in the last few laps they seem to pull away from the field like their standing still

@@jasonvogue4487 yea Toyota should be in nascar ,and so all other imported cars should be.

@@jasonvogue4487 it’s about engineering and mechanics. NASCAR companies represent nothing the average consumer can purchase, this isn’t when nascar used actual stock cars. So it makes perfect sense. Toyota makes great engines. That’s very important. Take a look at their F1 team. Or the Lexus LFA. Toyota deserves to be there maybe more so than other companies. Plus the bodies of the cars are restricted heavily anyway, dimension and design wise.

@@jasonjgr8580 I would personally like dodge to be back instead of Toyota but I'm just a nostalgic fan lol. I don't watch nascar much anymore since my favorite driver Jeff gordon retired but I'm excited for the next gen cars for some reason

S🅱ins

My thoughts exactly, we need skeptics like this in F1 because it's stupid to think Alonso didn't know about it, I mean it's not like he's managed by the fired, disgraced and banned team leader as a manager...oh wait he did rofl.

There was a reason Spingate was also called Singapore Sling for a while.

If there wasn’t a plan already in place, Alonso would have refused to pit so early in the race or at least he would have questioned it strongly

@@sdewey4152 And incidentally, that cost Massa the 2008 title. I can't believe Renault are taking him in for a third fucking time. I can't even believe Ferrari took him in 2010 after having shafting them just two years prior

Strange how NASCAR said nothing about it, considering they hate JGR.

Talladega and Martinsville this year.

@TNS1089 Calm down Chase fan, that was only a joke lol

@TNS1089 yeah and he has 1.21k more subs that you. I wouldn’t call him a loser if I were in your shoes

@TNS1089 Dude, why're you being such a buzz kill? It's obviously a joke, just admit you're being grouchy. We all have bad days.

@TNS1089 F.O.D

And Now This Chase Guy Is A Cup Championship

LOL

DINOCO'S ALL MINE

Yep

Either way it shouldn't be in a car

@@Fandom_Junkie not in a cup car at least haha. Who knows if it was some drag racing power adder compound lol

It was sterno camping fuel.coat the inside of intake or breather with it and it'll slowly dissolve and hopefully be gone by the end of the race.

If he had some kind of manager for everything, he would have been a dominant figure in nascar.

Them cheating joe gibbs cheaters

Damn Toyaters

Honda is not owned by Toyota. Other then this yeah the info is right and both Japanese teams jumped ship to Indy car. CART/Champ Car is dead now anyhow or at most a very very small official race series.

@@caseysmith544 I mean the series that now uses the name Champ Car is anything but dead.

Also their Celica rally car which had a "legit" air restrictor

@@GreenTheGrape They also pretended the fuel tank was a luggage spot for the GT-One - although that was a case of homologation special wars in 90s GT1.

dident want to be a rat.

Dale jr should have brought that up when Clint was on his podcast?

@@johnriggle5336 yeah that would have been entertaining but not surprising they didnt talk about it im sure its not clints favorite subject lol.

Didn't Dale jr spln out on purpose at I think bristol before not to go a lap down or something like that

@@paulburgess1574 yep lol

You do know that Jet fuel is Kerosene? Try that in your car and see what happens.

Jet fuel would slow it down.

Yes guys, that was his point. Read. Comprehend. Post. In that order.

Yep high sulfur deisle

It was more like Sterno.

Rubbing IS Racing 😂

JR. Forgot that 1 also...

To be frank, it was so blatantly obvious that it would have been impossible to defend that in anyway regardless of whoever it was. You already had one of the commentators (ironically himself a former MWR driver) pointing out how Dale Jr's car didn't touch him, then Jr himself further confirming he didn't get into the car (His tone was hilariously sarcastic as if he knew what was going on), and then Rusty not wasting anytime in saying that looked suspicious.

Not near what you're acting like he got caught cheating there was a handful incidence that weren't proven the one where he told Jimmy if he won the race to knock the back of the car out Jimmy Johnson was a great driver he was the man

@@chrispennington6890 opinions do very

Look at phoniex 2012 jeff gordon

Uke Kid bowyers fault

43 Car Field

@@b.d.cooper8671 facts

You do realize every team cheats or bends rules lil bit ...hell first nascar strictly stock division race and winner was a cheater with heavy duty springs ....smokey used 7/8 scale nova after Chevrolet pulled out.....teams use..used lead shot to spill out during the race ....they run 380ci 400ci motors but yet when inspectors poured cylinders they got 358ci.....soooooooooo we all cheat its racing its our DNA to push it to limit

There was 5 laps to go for one, and two Clint did not know it, he was Told to do it by his crew chief in "code". So he would have not known when to do it at all on the track, without the information his crew chief had.

oh nice Acceleracers pfp

Nether was Robby Gordon, kept loosing his glove or roll bar padding on the back stretch......

Unfortunately that's only half the sentence.

Wait why?

@@gage2040 NAPA left MWR for Chase Elliott.

CHEATER CHEATER! Toyota cheater You know what I hate This is a parody of the little caesars cheeser cheeser commerical

Dodge: ill just put my middle finger for all u...fu** u Toyota

lol what fans?

You forgot about Danica Patrick

How do these guys get their hands on this stuff?

Spot on. Peace.

Viva la Raza

Youre Not First.... You're Last 😂😂

DennyDelivers I'm angry to😡

Yep even failed on dancing with the stars

Michael Waltrip is the worst driver in NASCAR history

Worst driver and he a moron

The folks watching NASCAR today have no clue who that is and that's sad he was the best driver/owner ever

@@ericwilliams6915 I love the stores about that guy

They also looked good on diecasts. I still have some of them lying around somewhere

Probably the one thing that made those cars stand out.

ok...

Smokey Yunick pretty much summed it up. The spirit of racing, in all forms. Is reading between the lines and slipping in some cheating. If they got to rewrite the rules because you had a creative interpretation or you just were so goddamn smart that the techs couldn't figure out your performance gain then that is an innovation. Like it or hate it all teams from grass roots dirt track, to formula 1, motogp and wrc rally. Plus everything in between including Nascar which has a vibrant history of it. All racing does the amount of sheer competition for any edge leads to this. Gray areas and creative interpretation is all it will ever be for the engineers and race strategists.

tore up to much stuff.get u out as quick as low performance.

@@ixlr8677 I’m just sayin talent wise he had a lot of potential