Why North Wilkesboro Still Deserves A Points Race

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The Iceberg

The Iceberg

Ай бұрын

The North Wilkesboro Speedway has now hosted the All-Star Race, a non points race, for the past two seasons. With that there has been some inadequate racing while also having some of the biggest hype from crowds and older fans alike. While the racing is not there yet there is still a big conversation around if this old school track should have a date on the NASCAR points racing schedule. I think it should and this is why North Wilkesboro still deserves a points race.
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@TheIceberg
@TheIceberg Ай бұрын
Do you want to see North Wilkesboro as a points race? Why or why not?
@JJA1987
@JJA1987 Ай бұрын
It deserves two like it originally had for so many years
@Dupontman627
@Dupontman627 Ай бұрын
Yes
@tobiojo6469
@tobiojo6469 Ай бұрын
It needs to be a point race for the next couple years.
@thomasrice9903
@thomasrice9903 Ай бұрын
It would be nice to see one big weekend for wilksboro with a cup points race, and the all star return to Charlotte while these cars are so good at 1.5 miles tracks
@FantasySportsZen
@FantasySportsZen Ай бұрын
No thanks. But if it's good for the sport I'm fine with it. Outside of Bristol, the short tracks are a rough watch. And just boring racing. Better in person I imagine.
@isaacsalas9495
@isaacsalas9495 Ай бұрын
When this track ages just a tiny bit, and the short track package is fixed. This race will be good as hell. Schedule it for a hot weekend and some higher HP?? Get the tempers going with the drivers, so much potential
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
Preferably not Talladega hot. It got nasty when the DieHard (or EA sports) 500 was held there in July. NWB that same time would make it worse for fans, drivers, and the track
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld Ай бұрын
​@@S.K.R.E.Inc.North Wilkesboro isn't Talladega plus Wilkesboro is on the East coast not the deep south.
@grahamcrackergaming1540
@grahamcrackergaming1540 Ай бұрын
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldit can still get wicked hot chief. I live in Northern NY and the past 2-3 years the summer months have been in the high 80s and well into the 90s. One of those years it was near or at 100 degrees Fahrenheit on a couple of those days. Which btw hasn’t been common in for NY State. I can’t imagine what it’s like for the rest of the states on the east coast especially once ya start going further south.
@jameshall7699
@jameshall7699 Ай бұрын
try going to a las vegas race in September 🥵
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Ай бұрын
I’m literally waiting for North Wilkesboro to have an Xfinity race and a Cup points race. Hopefully 2026. Bring back the 400-lap race!🙏🏁
@cito1101
@cito1101 Ай бұрын
You mean 400 lap race?
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Ай бұрын
@@cito1101 it’s the same thing.
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
Wasn't it 500?
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld Ай бұрын
I thought it was 500
@tommythetreat000
@tommythetreat000 Ай бұрын
A 400 mile race at a 5/8 mile track would be 640 laps.
@SuperNASCARrocks
@SuperNASCARrocks Ай бұрын
I would be all for North Wilksboro having a points race. I’ve been lobbying for it for years.
@D2RCR
@D2RCR Ай бұрын
North Wilkesboro totally still deserves a points race. The truck races they've had show that the track has tremendous potential, NASCAR just needs to figure out this short track package.
@naparacingfan9275
@naparacingfan9275 Ай бұрын
They definitely deserve a points date as well as Rockingham! A points race could make for a better racing product with lap traffic. Logano led all but 1 lap but he also didn't have a lot of lap traffic to deal with.
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
Rockingham is a long shot at this point. It's more likely Chicagoland returning than even considering the rock
@johnhenryNC
@johnhenryNC Ай бұрын
When I was growing up, NASCAR always took Easter Weekend off and Mother's Day Weekend off. As for North Wilkesboro, they should have a points race, and I believe the racing would be better if you had 40 cars out on the track. Last night, some of the best racing up front was when Joey Logano was trying to put Bubba Wallace a lap down. That allowed 2nd & 3rd place to catch up with Logano. You would have bump & runs with the leaders trying to put guys a lap down and drivers trying to stay on the lead lap. Overall, North Wilkesboro is old school NASCAR and even though it only seats 30,000, it looks better on tv for those 30,000 seats to be full than have 50,000 in a place that seats over 100,000.
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 Ай бұрын
They could not this year because of the Olympics.
@chrisguardiano6143
@chrisguardiano6143 Ай бұрын
If this happens in my view, then it also opens up the possibility of the All Star Race slot being moved internationally & NASCAR really attempting to gauge interest in the sport outside of the US. Both Montreal & Mexico City would be the ideal places to have the All Star Race in this scenario as NASCAR has raced at both places in the past with the Xfinity Series to large crowds. There is also a growing decline in the popularity of F1 in both countries that NASCAR could take advantage of. If the All Star Race is a success in either Montreal or Mexico City, then they should be added as points races shortly after to help NASCAR grow in either country.
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld Ай бұрын
I don't think NASCAR wants to go international with the All Star race though. They want to stay close to Charlotte. It's a Pipe dream.
@D4nkfury
@D4nkfury Ай бұрын
Having a full field would help the racing here as well. The multigroove aspect of the all star race was very entertaining for the first 10ish laps after restarts, put twice as many cars on the track as they had this past weekend and I think those stretches could go much longer. Plus when they figure out the short track racing that'd be even better
@tomdalfonzo9959
@tomdalfonzo9959 Ай бұрын
I personally feel that the NASCAR All-Star Race has outlived its usefulness, and that North Wilkesboro Speedway should be awarded a points paying night race. I'm not sure the best time of the year for such an event to be held, but here would be an excellent title and sponsor for it: The STP Legends 400. This would be a too perfect pairing, the title sponsor of the driver that won 15 Cup races at NWS, and a honoring of the legendary drivers that raced and won at NWS.
@kevinsnow9465
@kevinsnow9465 Ай бұрын
I wish they would bring back the gen 6 car for the short track and road course races exclusively. The truck races have been great there.
@nascarnational
@nascarnational Ай бұрын
well 2025 won't feature a points race for this track like i forgot so that imo is interesting, especially considering that it creates a stop-gap between now & 2026. i'll be more than shocked if nascar doesn't significantly improve upon their short-track & road-course program between now & two years from today. i just get a vibe it'll happen, & quite convincingly at that. in my opinion, it's not if but when nwb gets a points slot. the logic, timing, & circumstance makes total sense.
@xNobodyOfConsequenceX
@xNobodyOfConsequenceX Ай бұрын
A high horsepower/low aero grip package would make racing here so much better IMO. That being said, the racing has improved from last year. I think there should absolutely be a points race next year.
@NASCARFAN93100
@NASCARFAN93100 Ай бұрын
North Wilkesboro deserves a Points Paying Event Even though The Short Track Package is underwhelming to say the least
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 Ай бұрын
"deserve"?!
@rmg_2771
@rmg_2771 Ай бұрын
Definitely think NWB should get a points race. And I think running it on Father’s Day weekend would be cool. Give it a theme and a weekend to connect all generations of nascar fans at its most historic track. Maybe SMI takes away a Vegas race. I know Vegas is a bigger market but the main reason it got a 2nd race was to boost the tourism in the fall. Since then Vegas has gotten a NHL team, NFL team and a F1 race. So it might not be needed anymore, plus attendance for the 2nd was really never good.
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
A 1990s themed race. The best decade in history meets the peak of NASCAR history
@johnmunro7548
@johnmunro7548 Ай бұрын
It does deserve at least one points paying race. The fans show up at North Wilkesboro that is obvious. It’s more the cars not the track in this case. Even in the 80s and 90s at the end of Wilkesboro’s time, the cream always rose to the crop and it was usually the top 10.North Wilkesboro showed, who was the best who had the best car, and who the best drivers were. My only case is they need to work on the short track package with this car. You get some decent racing at Wilkesboro this place will shine once again.
@craigstephenson7676
@craigstephenson7676 Ай бұрын
if they add horsepower or if Goodyear can deliver a really good tire this track definitely deserves a points race
@camren_kerber
@camren_kerber Ай бұрын
I think it deserves one. I think with more cars on track and more lap traffic it could ramp up battles for the lead. I also think a day race would make things more interesting especially if the race stays in its current place on the schedule. I think we need to work on the short track package and tires to really make this a reality but I’m all for it. Nothing wrong with a good ole ass whoopin either
@TracksideViews
@TracksideViews Ай бұрын
Rockingham will be back next year for one of the top three series. The track owner hinted at it himself.
@jakeschopper8462
@jakeschopper8462 Ай бұрын
I appreciate that Nascar hasn't forgotten where they came from. However, I think they should've just left this track back in 1996. They've outgrown it.
@benallen2196
@benallen2196 Ай бұрын
Put a full field of cars on the track and run 400 laps would help the racing a lot more. Dividing the race into a 100 and 2 50 lap segments really didn't let the tires wear out like they should have
@gamez4420
@gamez4420 Ай бұрын
while this isn't inherently an argument for points races, I feel like a lot of people are overlooking one of the core reasons bringing the track back got greenlit to begin with: it was to help the local economy of the county. The track brings job opportunities, and provides a venue that SMI can rent out for weekly racing/car shows/concerts/whatever else anyone wants to hold there, and the county can put a fee on that to get more money, which in turn can help keep taxes down, or possibly even lower them a tiny bit in the area (though that's a long shot to how much it'd actually do). If putting a points race in Wilkesboro will provably help their economy, I support holding a points race there 100%.
@erictakaki394
@erictakaki394 Ай бұрын
Have the race during the day and watch the tire wear with the soft tire improve dramatically
@kylehill5593
@kylehill5593 Ай бұрын
Yes they need more cars out there and they will have to fight traffic , it will make it so much better. No one can really get a big lead undeservingly
@ATK10155
@ATK10155 Ай бұрын
If they can fix the Short Track Package. Then sure. Otherwise, I think it’ll be a Xfinity/Truck series only stop within a few years once the attendance goes back down.
@alanott7561
@alanott7561 Ай бұрын
I bet an Xfinity race would be phenomenal
@cito1101
@cito1101 Ай бұрын
North Wilkesboro is SO BACK!!!!
@slayer11447788
@slayer11447788 Ай бұрын
It doesn't need a points race "right now" with this package. The leader led 199 of 200 and couldn't really be passed. Once the package gets fixed, then yes, it would be good
@joshuamessenger
@joshuamessenger Ай бұрын
A points race with a full field of cars would produce a much better race. Long green flag runs, Lapped traffic, etc. Nascar killed their own gimmick with the Primary vs Soft Tires by scheduling a planned Caution every 50 Laps...
@crocidayle
@crocidayle Ай бұрын
It was also weird because once the track rubbered up the Option tires didnt wear like in Practice
@D2RCR
@D2RCR Ай бұрын
@@crocidayleThe option tires failed because they didn't do any testing practice at dusk or night. Cooker temperatures meant less wear.
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 Ай бұрын
I think the cooler track allowed it to be so fast too.
@crocidayle
@crocidayle Ай бұрын
@@D2RCR I get that, but should it have doubled the length you can go?
@gagemcpherson1956
@gagemcpherson1956 Ай бұрын
I would love for it to be a points race but not until they get this short track package fixed race was pathetic last night
@benallen2196
@benallen2196 Ай бұрын
The racing was much better this year and actually had a lot of passing in the middle of the field. Especially after pit stops. My guess is the TV just showed Joey Logano the whole race. If there is a full field of cars as well as more laps to increase strategy and tire wear I think that would be a much better race.
@danielfoster3642
@danielfoster3642 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything The Iceberg says.
@patmanbnl
@patmanbnl Ай бұрын
Give the fall Vegas date to NWS and move the All Star race back to Charlotte. If you're not gonna give the teams more bye weeks, at least give them two weeks at home in May.
@jeffreyrainey1015
@jeffreyrainey1015 Ай бұрын
this is such a nerd question, but why does MRN broadcast races at North Wilkesboro, if it is a track that’s owned by SMI?
@conlinlundnerg3749
@conlinlundnerg3749 Ай бұрын
You know I wish if we had a good short track package then put a points race there
@TheAdidasKnifer
@TheAdidasKnifer Ай бұрын
I be all for it make it happen
@tanjirouzumaki144
@tanjirouzumaki144 Ай бұрын
As someone who lives near North Wilkesboro, I don't want people to hate the track because of the car... We saw good racing for position... just not the lead
@robertlynn4435
@robertlynn4435 Ай бұрын
My Opinion is if hope NASCAR Add North Wilkesboro become of Point Race Replace Bristol Spring Date that be Great and NASCAR keep One Bristol Date Race with Night Race that will be become Crown Jewel at Bristol Night Race and NASCAR All-Star Race Rotate Tracks to IRP Indianapolis Raceway Park for All-Star-Race and Non-Points that will be Perfect for 2026.
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 Ай бұрын
It's not N.Wilkesboros fault that 1. The Allstar race didn't do hot when it went to Bristol, the only other short track to get an Allstar race, why are we mad when it's again shown short tracks aren't good for the Allstar race. 2. Those soft tires were still too hard. I get it the lower Temps didn't help but the fact JoLo went on to win when only chamging his tires once and ran it on soft proves Goodyear again failed us. 3. The short track package once again has shown us that this car wasn't made for short tracks and nascar messed up big time. They need to start seeing about working on adding horse power. It seems like the gear ratios were pretty close to how drivers want it so I'm not worried about it. Overall, give N.Wilkesboro a 400 lap race with a full field of cars in May or September during the day with tires softer than what we got last night I think we might be onto something.
@BraydenBunch58
@BraydenBunch58 Ай бұрын
Have it as a playoff race, 2 Truck races a year, And maybe consider Xfinity
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
Replace Vegas with NWB playoffs
@RasscalGaming
@RasscalGaming Ай бұрын
Short track racing for Cup series is bad but I believe Xfinity and Truck series would be better
@MICKEY-LOGANO
@MICKEY-LOGANO Ай бұрын
North Wilkesboro should absolutely have a points race.
@Caterpillarjon
@Caterpillarjon Ай бұрын
"shilling for the sport" I'm looking at you SiriusXM channel 90 Dave Moody
@mikeyandoh7857
@mikeyandoh7857 Ай бұрын
NASCAR NEEDS to add more HORSEPOWER, to separate the men from the boys!😊
@charlespetersonjr1994
@charlespetersonjr1994 Ай бұрын
I've said it last year, we've lost this track once...........we can't lose it twice.
@austinemms9772
@austinemms9772 Ай бұрын
Not only does it need a points race, it needs a new package for the track to reach another level. This package and car are pretty bad.
@D2RCR
@D2RCR Ай бұрын
The Bristol tire could work as a bridge to a new package or car.
@Dougie1969
@Dougie1969 Ай бұрын
Short track racing used to be excellent before thus car came along. But then again This car has been nascars biggest failure
@StarryniteTrist
@StarryniteTrist Ай бұрын
Please make it a points race...worst part of all star race is if my favorite driver doesn't make the cut then watching the main race is not that exciting. Also hate that dudes with solid performance get nothing tangible.
@joshuapboston1999
@joshuapboston1999 Ай бұрын
North Wilkesboro does deserve a points race, but not yet. Not until we get the tires or the cars perfected for short tracks.
@robmurphy7801
@robmurphy7801 Ай бұрын
Yes north wilkesboro deserve a points race fuck the all star race
@connorbingel7134
@connorbingel7134 Ай бұрын
It deserves a points race because the racing was fine and people keep over reacting. It felt like normal Saturday night racing on steroids. I didn’t watch it on fox though so maybe the coverage was ass
@petersburg8920
@petersburg8920 Ай бұрын
No no no. Cancel all short tracks. The madness needs to stop till they fix the car/tires
@KidnamedSubbs
@KidnamedSubbs Ай бұрын
If they get Rockingham back then have the 2 alternate where one gets the all star race date and the other gets a points race then switch for the next year and repeat
@Dupontman627
@Dupontman627 Ай бұрын
Kyle Busch vs Ricky Stenhouse Jr
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 Ай бұрын
Kyle Busch -- the only NASCAR diver to be suspended for a week. Hr isn't just Kurt's younger brother -- h's still a baby.
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
It needs a points race, taking out TexARSE for this track would it come full circle
@StephenGibson829
@StephenGibson829 Ай бұрын
This track in 2026, should be a points race, Charlotte should get the All Star back (even tho I agree with Brock Beard with Atlanta). Likely won't have COTA in 2026 cause the SMI Lease they have. I see Wilksboro taking that race date.
@robertlynn4435
@robertlynn4435 Ай бұрын
No I love COTA for NASCAR if NASCAR add North Wilkesboro become a Point Race NASCAR will remove of Bristol Spring Race Date and NASCAR keep One Bristol Date with Night Race that make clear ?
@StephenGibson829
@StephenGibson829 Ай бұрын
@robertlynn4435 trust me I want COTA, but they already don't know about a date next year, so 2026 yea I can seee it being gone... and Bristol spring will only be replaced by Nashville Fairgrounds
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 Ай бұрын
If NASCAR can't fill the stands at a short-track All-Star Race then they have a real problem. How can NASCAR justify a points race?
@therealanonymous12
@therealanonymous12 Ай бұрын
Give North Wilkesboro a playoff spot in place of the roval, because we really don't need anymore roval,do we ?
@smetanka42
@smetanka42 Ай бұрын
преемственность поколений и все дела это кончено классно, но... Гонки в Уильксборо были чертовски скучными, просто не смотрибельными. Этот час тянулся как два или три. NASCAR сделал машину которая абсолютно не может ехать на шорт треках но при этом пихает эти шорт треки везде и всюду. Хоть новость о возвращении Рокингэма порадовала
@jwrailve3615
@jwrailve3615 Ай бұрын
Bring back Texas world speedway.
@votekyle3000
@votekyle3000 Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s gone gone
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
The closest to it in resemblance? Fontana, and it got bulldozed for Fontucky, which is suspended indefinitely, I heard
@jwrailve3615
@jwrailve3615 Ай бұрын
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. Texas world is still there, it’s just not in any condition to have racing on it and all the stands and structures are gone I think they park dealerships surplus supply vehicles in the middle. They would kill it there in 2024, right in the middle of Austin and Houston, literally minutes from the massive Texas A&M which is a bunch of wealthy rich “country” kids wanting any excuse to tailgate and get lit. The next gen car loved auto club so I can’t imagine how good the racing would’ve been at Texas world, it was extremely bumpy and the racing was damn good for the grand National busch series.
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld Ай бұрын
It's dead
@stephenholloway6893
@stephenholloway6893 Ай бұрын
If NASCAR fixes the short track package then yes if they don't then no based on the racing product on track. Sure Larson going from the back to the front was great but otherwise the racing wasn't that good.
@godsmacking99
@godsmacking99 Ай бұрын
No, maybe in 5 years once the track surface wears in and they could actually pass I wouldn't mind a points race, then and only then though. But right now? No, who wants to watch 400 laps at North Wilkesboro where nobody can pass after 5 laps and one guy leads the whole time? No thank you. I didn't need reminding, I've always been of the opinion that North Wilkesboro was never a good track that produced good racing and I think it's blind nostalgia that it was brought back and people are doing a lot of mental gymnastics trying to justify how the track is actually good. It's not, stop pretending. Go watch old NW races from the 80's and 90's, most of them were just like what we saw these past 2 years. Even Ken Schrader said in an interview that NW was never good to watch races on but fun track to drive. It may be a track drivers like but it's not a good track for fans, especially with these cars and the low HP that just makes passing that much harder on flat tracks like North Wilkesboro. This is why it's rumored we're losing a Richmond date next year to make room for an international road course race. Good riddance to Richmond, North Wilkesboro's sister track and not sad to see it go at all. People say 'but the truck races were good'. Not really, the only time they could make passes was when they caught lap traffic and got slowed down enough trying to pass the lap car that the guy behind them caught and passed them. It's not a good racing product when you have to rely on lap traffic just to make passes and put on some kind of race. Even the gimmick tire options didn't make a lick of difference, everybody was running equal speeds no matter what tire they were on. Just the soft tire took off slightly faster because it heated up faster, it only took a few laps longer for the prime tires to equalize but by that time, they were too far behind on a track where you literally can't pass so it was a lost cause. Total pointless gimmick. I say it all the time on these Nascar videos but if there's an old track that deserves to get revived, I would've taken Rockingham 100 times out of 100 over North Wilkesboro. Nascar fans just proving again how blinded they are by nostalgia.
@zayjackson427
@zayjackson427 Ай бұрын
Not in this car
@wyo_garage20
@wyo_garage20 Ай бұрын
This was the most boring race I’ve seen in a LONG time. In fact, it wasn’t a race, it was follow the leader. Atrocious. Let’s not heap them on the schedule yet
@thebattery500
@thebattery500 Ай бұрын
No points race. There is a reason this track was abandoned in the 90 's.
@S.K.R.E.Inc.
@S.K.R.E.Inc. Ай бұрын
Yeah, that was all the devil Smith's doing. He bought the track, so he could get rid of it and put TexARSE, his "masterpiece" on display. And everyone hated the track, especially after it's reconfigurations made it from bad to worse
@johnglynn9354
@johnglynn9354 Ай бұрын
It's doesn't. The track has always produced boring racing and even more so now.
@Rowdy_2469
@Rowdy_2469 Ай бұрын
you want another boring race?
@votekyle3000
@votekyle3000 Ай бұрын
No, it doesn’t deserve one.
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