Stoner Discussion ft. Allen, Jimmy, Philip, Merphy, and Johanna

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8 ай бұрын

Come listen to us talk about John Williams's magnificent STONER.
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@thefantasynuttwork 8 ай бұрын

I never knew a book about weed could be so moving

@merphynapier42 8 ай бұрын

Loved this discussion and it was wonderful getting to chat with you all! Thank you all for pushing me to give this book a chance!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 8 ай бұрын

"Cool" thumbnail, Allen! 😁I have never been prouder of being a nerd than when chatting with this crew!

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Hahahahahahah thanks Philip

@bartsbookspace9798 8 ай бұрын

This was the most interesting and inspiring discussion on a book that I’ve ever listened to. Of course Stoner, the singular source material, has a ton to do with it, but the thoughtful analysis by all the participants made this video fascinating. Thank you to all 5. I want to now re-read Stoner. ❤️

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@thefantasythinker 8 ай бұрын

It's about time this discussion happened! You guys brought up so many great points. I also feel like this book was Williams' love letter to literature with how he portrayed Stoner's dedication to it. Fun discussion!

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Such a great book! Thanks so much for watching!

@vermadheeraj29 4 ай бұрын

To my understanding Edith was a type 1 bipolar, her problems already existed before meeting Stoner due to her upbringing or could even be genetic, seeing that her father committed suicide( I understand that he became depressed due to a traumatic event and not initially ) and her daughter became an alcoholic. In other words she was a manic depressive, her bouts of mania gave her the energy to handle parties and her theatre group but on many occasions she went overboard and had an episode. Other times she was in a prolonged depression which rendered her unable to function normally. The reason she was obsessed over her daughter was not because she loved her or she hated Stoner but she saw her as a project of purpose which kept her in a hypomanic state which sometimes turned into hypermania. As for her relationship with Stoner, she used him as a way to get away from her father, pretty much the same way Grace did with her husband. After her father's death, instead of healing, she started seeing Stoner as a stand-in for her father and directed a vindictive crusade towards him, something she wanted to do against her father.

@Sueellenmschke 10 күн бұрын

Great insight…I also thought she seemed Bipolar.

@tgibridays 7 ай бұрын

Thank you all for this wonderful discussion. You guys doing this discussion actually was the motivator for me to finally read this. There were so many revelations of topics and details that I hadn't picked up on in your discussion. Like, I didn't pick up on Edith's trauma, but looking back, it seems starkly obvious. Thank you Jimmy for making us all read this! It's definitely one of the best books I've ever read and I hope to pick it up many more times in the future.

@marsnf9464 5 ай бұрын

This was a gem of a conversation! Gave me so many new perspectives. Thank you for this video!!

@mitch8948 8 ай бұрын

Listening to this before reading it. Don’t try to stop me!

@sorenkrane 7 ай бұрын

Finished Stoner last night. You're discussion was so enlightening, so deepening to the story, that I appreciate it even more. So first, thank you for the recc (in the Pacing video) and second, thank you for this intelligent conversation. Much love and reading ❤️

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 7 ай бұрын

Thank you and I'm glad you enjoyed the discussion!

@Joey48283JosephBailey 8 ай бұрын

S tier discussion!! I really need to reread this book annually and check out William's other books. Thank you guys!

@carrieicanhasbooks 8 ай бұрын

Just ordered a copy, will have to check both this and your review video out after I read it.

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

It's so good!

@mastersal4644 8 ай бұрын

Finally managed to watch this. Lovely discussion. Made me tear up

@mattkean1128 8 ай бұрын

I was always paranoid about Edith after she suggested their daughter lie about pregnancy to trap a man. In fact if Grace hadn't been born too long after the wedding I might've thought... they got married awfully quick. I did suspect Edith of infidelity. There were just too many little moments.

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Yes!

@francoisbouchart4050 8 ай бұрын

I loved Stoner and I was fascinated with your thoughts. For me, the books is about the devaluation of education. Stoner is the bastion of higher learning against a changing world that views education as a commodity that can be purchased. Thanks.

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Yes! Such a good point! That devaluation has only continued

@dubbs648 8 ай бұрын

You all brought your A game for this discussion. I just want to say thanks

@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 8 ай бұрын

Thank YOU for watching!

@mightyp2000 24 күн бұрын

Edith being a victim is an interesting angle that I never would've thought of

@jersy6406 6 ай бұрын

Such a good chat. I didn't even noticed what had happened to Edith. I interpreted her response to sex and her relationship towards Stoner the exaxt other way: That the way girls were raised back then, being sheltered, not aloud to be young men on their own and told sexuality is shameful made her react that way. It was so interesting to understand her better now.