This Is Why Heihachi Is Bad In Tournaments

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@ghilzai
@ghilzai 4 жыл бұрын
To play Hei you need to train like hei , in the mishima arts for 50 years lol. But he will always remain the most chad mishima
@bendover2684
@bendover2684 4 жыл бұрын
Chad heihachi vs Virgin jin
@TheMegaPingasMobile
@TheMegaPingasMobile 4 жыл бұрын
@@bendover2684 virjin
@Kydino
@Kydino 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMegaPingasMobile turbo incel devil virjin.
@thejoekage9499
@thejoekage9499 4 жыл бұрын
And he has the strongest flex launcher and arguably strongest 12 fr if you do f1+2 into omen launcher, there’s just something so nice about landing his combos, I wish he was more viable
@ghilzai
@ghilzai 4 жыл бұрын
@@thejoekage9499 oh hell yes , nothing quite like headbut into omen for a 12f punish but such ass range lol
@amircat1009
@amircat1009 4 жыл бұрын
Heihachi is old so his back hurts in tournament play but JDCR likes old men
@problazaj4301
@problazaj4301 4 жыл бұрын
When jdcr said that I was like🧐🧐🧐🧐
@jtr7168
@jtr7168 4 жыл бұрын
So JDCR loves old guys and Nobi loves baby?
@M5M4_hdz
@M5M4_hdz 4 жыл бұрын
No he likes old people
@7sinsAvaritia
@7sinsAvaritia 4 жыл бұрын
@@problazaj4301 he corrected it after he said that he likes old men, he likes playing old characters
@dal4268
@dal4268 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Serrano since when?
@addydiesel6627
@addydiesel6627 4 жыл бұрын
TMM: Devil Jin and Kazuya.. YT caption: double chin and calcium..
@ace6806
@ace6806 4 жыл бұрын
Also Heihachi - he Akshay lol...
@kazumasatou9520
@kazumasatou9520 4 жыл бұрын
Kazuya - Kasia,Calsio,calcium
@jek93milani
@jek93milani 4 жыл бұрын
Diablo Jim and karakas
@2hot4u68
@2hot4u68 4 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome 😆
@yashsahu1842
@yashsahu1842 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have nothing but respect for JDCR for even showing us Hei in tournaments not to say he won EVO 2017
@davidsourdis2905
@davidsourdis2905 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he win that one with Dragunov
@yashsahu1842
@yashsahu1842 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsourdis2905 But we did get to see Heihachi in most of the tournament even in the grand final
@tk_foxer
@tk_foxer 4 жыл бұрын
That’s true JDCR’S is such a good heihachi player and his instinct for crouch cancel to electric is so good
@inder3944
@inder3944 4 жыл бұрын
Thats because he uses a cheatbox
@seanraf2554
@seanraf2554 4 жыл бұрын
@@inder3944I hope you're joking because jdcr only got the hitbox cross up this year. Every time he used Heihachi before 2020, he used a regular arcade stick.
@erykaldo2l270
@erykaldo2l270 2 жыл бұрын
@@inder3944 Cope harder, scrub
@GarzaTheFather
@GarzaTheFather 4 жыл бұрын
i think i finally understand why tekken is so hard like imagine, you finally get the 100 hours to understand 70% of your character you then have to learn how your character interacts with every other good character in the game but then oh no whats this your opponent is playing PANDA you start sweating thats not akuma, thats not a mishima, thats not dragnov you were even prepared for a geese you have every meta matchup known but you get hit with the 300 pounds of pure fluffy terror you load into the match its ok, this character is trash you say smirking in confidence BAM panda uppercut 37 dmg youre on the ground Bear crawl, low low low low low low youre in the blender now the last thing you see is this black and white blur your last thought nerf devil jin
@ThinkingHuman
@ThinkingHuman 3 жыл бұрын
I have laughed 😂🤣 but feel this so deep.
@rossmanmagnus
@rossmanmagnus Жыл бұрын
dude 15 min delay? finish streaming go to school get a job get married have SIX KiDS get old DIE COME BACK TO LIIFE GET RESSD! Fff..... dude stop smoking c-rack! okay
@GarzaTheFather
@GarzaTheFather Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanmagnus what
@ibrahimDagoat786
@ibrahimDagoat786 Жыл бұрын
@@GarzaTheFather reply two years later 😂 but still, this comment is so accurate
@RobinMask
@RobinMask 10 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingHuman deep like rick and morty...
@Zero_dice
@Zero_dice 4 жыл бұрын
6:15 when he wants to drop a combo,and he cannot. the KZfaq curse is always ald everywhere
@TheClash79Elx
@TheClash79Elx 4 жыл бұрын
Remember Ruperto from Venezuela, he's a great Heihachi player too. If he could find a sponsor you will see him performing so well with the character in a lot of tournaments.
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
I think the word "bad" is a bit too rough. I'd say Heihachi is one of the most difficult characters to use it you wanna get good results in tournament.
@medjo1
@medjo1 4 жыл бұрын
JDCR 2020: i like old men...
@vrydmason9763
@vrydmason9763 4 жыл бұрын
The reverse KZfaq curse- tries to wiff a move, starts landing it over and over again inadvertently
@catalyst-tekken5585
@catalyst-tekken5585 4 жыл бұрын
TMM : Heihachi is bad at tournaments JDCR: Hold ma Trophies
@megidolaon6045
@megidolaon6045 4 жыл бұрын
You have highly informed opinoines of this game and an understanding that I can not find with other content creators. Question, in the time of arcades was frame data available to player's and when was it introduced?
@yeah5874
@yeah5874 4 жыл бұрын
Heihachi is definitely insanely fun
@mariosantoso2541
@mariosantoso2541 4 жыл бұрын
Main man, can you put notation button during explaining? I think it would help for new player that wanted to understand some basic moves.
@LiftedLegend2000
@LiftedLegend2000 4 жыл бұрын
I should probably mention the cross up that JD uses makes his crouch cancel electrics easier and almost instant
@chandan1583
@chandan1583 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get it… do you know how exactly he does cc electrics so fast ?
@Rv3Ariez
@Rv3Ariez 4 жыл бұрын
The precision and difficulty is part of the charm of the character. I hope he stays this difficult. Not everybody deserves to play him.
@bendover2684
@bendover2684 4 жыл бұрын
He wont be in Tekken 8
@rpast5656
@rpast5656 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Dover he will be
@TheMegaPingasMobile
@TheMegaPingasMobile 4 жыл бұрын
I must be jesus for playing eliza then huh
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
That last part you said didn't make sense lol
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
@@bendover2684 He has to be. He's one of the most popular Tekken characters ever.
@michawoo9560
@michawoo9560 4 жыл бұрын
Kazuya: hey dad what do you do after ff3?
@kiingn7794
@kiingn7794 4 жыл бұрын
@Vance Walton does that work? Damn
@BopshotBully
@BopshotBully 4 жыл бұрын
@@kiingn7794 thats 3 diff combo starters there
@thefrenchmishima1810
@thefrenchmishima1810 4 жыл бұрын
Or the hard way: ff3, electric, f3, iWS4, bf2, 3 f 3+4 2, 1
@ResonantNewt
@ResonantNewt 4 жыл бұрын
I simply do very fast bf2, 3, cd4, 4,1 then I close with d1
@kiingn7794
@kiingn7794 4 жыл бұрын
@@ResonantNewt that's exactly what I do
@jermainekidd4648
@jermainekidd4648 4 жыл бұрын
In Tekken 3 & Tekken Tag 2 he had some good moves but they remove some of them like his back 1 & his F,D,F 4 & after the 4 u could have hit either 1 or 2 but the nerf Heihachi strait into the ground :(
@viktorstanev2752
@viktorstanev2752 3 жыл бұрын
Heihachi Tournament video: "This is why Heihachi is bad in Tournaments" Kazumi Tournament video: "This is what makes Kazumi a Tournament monster" Whoever said opposites attract... they were not lying.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 4 жыл бұрын
These seem like handicaps but to me it's just things you need to be aware of and work out alternatives. Heihachi's strength is pressure so you also don't need to focus on whiff-punishes as much as the other Mishimas. If you can't get a WS 2 punish, maybe you could try like a WS 4 and come up with something while you have the frame advantage, for instance. His d/f+1,2 doesn't give amazing oki but you can still follow it up (and if you're using d/f+1,1 to keep them honest then it's just on you to play smartly with it and not have it ducked). I play Heihachi better than the other two Mishimas, I think. His strengths feed into how I play Tekken moreso than the other guys. I know he has some holes (bad WS options and weak lows) but what he excels in feel comfortable to me.
@jawnjawnson525
@jawnjawnson525 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I feel the same way. I started with kaz and got to genbu. Then took a break and tried heiachi and I feel so much more at home even tho he’s imo harder than kaz and dj.
@SolusFather
@SolusFather 2 жыл бұрын
playing online against scrubs is not the same as playing against tournament pro level players
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolusFather You're a scrubz
@SolusFather
@SolusFather 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolidSonicTH Says an online player
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolusFather I'VE BEEN TO TOURNAMENTS. ... I never made it out of pools but get rekt anyway.
@brohham3078
@brohham3078 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap last time I was this early I saw kid jin fighting Devil Kazuya
@xscorpionix9448
@xscorpionix9448 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@blankname170
@blankname170 4 жыл бұрын
hey swe i was wondering what happened to bob? i dont see him often in tournaments. i was wondering if you could do a similar video with bob from tekken 7 and explain why he is not seen in tournaments anymore
@denis8906
@denis8906 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao when a kaz is low hp and he tries to vortex pressure me while im on the grouns i usually spring kick, it hits nearly all the time
@zealotroman6034
@zealotroman6034 2 жыл бұрын
Until u get sidestep punished
@ArchbowMistress
@ArchbowMistress Жыл бұрын
I find it so it so funny that this video did not discourage me at all. If anything, the extra difficulty made my eyes shine in joy XD
@BabyBoyJr.
@BabyBoyJr. 4 жыл бұрын
Now the hitboxlcrossup is legal in some tournaments, mishima players are good now specially kazuya because of his pewf is easy to execute with the crossup. -14 is easier to punish with pewf
@pyscho86
@pyscho86 Жыл бұрын
2 years later, hei broken
@alexgutierrez2783
@alexgutierrez2783 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a breakdown and tips etc for Jin. I watched alot and honestly prefer your method of teaching. Like beginner intermediate and advanced. Highest I got was vindicator. My have average is warrior. At 660. Wins and I feel like I'm stuck
@TojekPL
@TojekPL 4 жыл бұрын
Dont focus on your character, youre on a level you need to start labbing other matchups. It was either Knee or Nin who said " I dont care how much you know youre own character, but how much do you know your,s opponnent character. Couse thats the player who wins.". So focus on learning the rest of the cast and how you can utilize your charachter against them. Have a nice day bro. 😁
@alexgutierrez2783
@alexgutierrez2783 4 жыл бұрын
@@TojekPL I have, but i have had issues executing properly to counter the rest of the cast and sadly I have no training partners
@Shun_Monk
@Shun_Monk 4 жыл бұрын
Block punishing with the electric is the reason I decided not to play Mishimas in Tekken. Props to all of you Mishima players who can do that with consistency.
@diegoderyp6265
@diegoderyp6265 4 жыл бұрын
Ah. That's why I never win locals. It's heihachi; not my lack of knowledge and execution. Thanks TMM!
@bedstain5045
@bedstain5045 4 жыл бұрын
Heihachi is a sweaty character dawg but he is so much fun to play
@wolfjohnson5130
@wolfjohnson5130 4 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Serrano FUCKING FACTS, laws literally are so fucking different in ranked
@bedstain5045
@bedstain5045 4 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Serrano naw law players just press buttons they dont ever sidestep or move around they just slide low and spam strings. Law players are pretty braindead tbh the smarter ones use his parry at least
@TheJayCoconut
@TheJayCoconut 4 жыл бұрын
"What's up guys. MainManSWE here hoping you're all doing awesome as always."
@TheKelz
@TheKelz 4 жыл бұрын
chantillycakes let’s all agree that we actually love that.
@leosharman8630
@leosharman8630 4 жыл бұрын
Question: What makes mainman so toxic?
@mkecorey9283
@mkecorey9283 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why not just warm up before the tournament? Never been to one so just curious
@TojekPL
@TojekPL 4 жыл бұрын
There is no possibility for it. Most of ppl travel to tournaments. If you live really nearby to tournament then maybe you can practice a bit before at home but for 99% of people, its impossible.
@chandan1583
@chandan1583 2 жыл бұрын
You can take your laptop with you anywhere. I think everyone should be doing that
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 3 жыл бұрын
IMO Devil Jin's jab range should also come over to Kazuya and Heihachi. That's something that doesn't make sense to give to him exclusively.
@BlueGangsta_MX
@BlueGangsta_MX 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know bout that, his ws launcher is i18 + the drop range (in my opinion it is useless...) I'm not saying cc EWGF is a easy thing to do, but you "sacrifice" a lot if you use his ws punisher instead... and in my opinion that's not worth it. some think buffing it to i15 is too much, but If it won't be at least i16, It's there for no reason...
@mr4996
@mr4996 4 жыл бұрын
Hi TMM, what's a disadvantage of using normal God Fist as a punisher? does it not come out at 15f, too?
@h13nr1
@h13nr1 4 жыл бұрын
Why not electric then it is faster and stronger?
@Blizzburn
@Blizzburn 4 жыл бұрын
No no, normal god fist IS 15f Electric god fist is 14f, but is much more faster in recovery and much more knockback on block If you only use normal one, it's extremely punishable. If it gets blocked, some can even launch punish you
@reiji3546
@reiji3546 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blizzburn It's -10 on block dude. Who can really launch at 10 frames besides Akuma ?
@Blizzburn
@Blizzburn 4 жыл бұрын
@@reiji3546 Really? Okay maybe not extremely punishable, but I was able to punish normal electric on block using 12f move tho? Edit : Just checked, it is -10 on block, huh. I'm starting to ge confused here. Also you didn't said anything about normal punish so uh, my bad. Thanks.
@doublejacketjimmy391
@doublejacketjimmy391 4 жыл бұрын
So would you say Hei is harder than Kazuya in tournaments?
@muhtadaali8847
@muhtadaali8847 4 жыл бұрын
JDCR should say something back😂
@rpast5656
@rpast5656 4 жыл бұрын
This is my main I got a arcade stick for my birthday and I will play him in tournaments and I was meant to go to Japan but corona ruined my holiday
@kakacech
@kakacech 3 жыл бұрын
Little bro question her please. Dude in the video at 4:58 Mentioned a specific input for Heihachi's electric. Does that mean there are multiple inputs for electric whether it's Hehachi or another Mishima? Also at 5:17 He said Kazuya has fast easier electric Would appreciate your answer brother
@rpast5656
@rpast5656 3 жыл бұрын
@@kakacech just one input but slightly different between the three Mishimas
@syphion3777
@syphion3777 4 жыл бұрын
Talking about lows, what are ur thoughts on marduk's lows. Im a marduk main and almost all his lows are launch punishable and some are -ve on hit
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
what's -ve?
@syphion3777
@syphion3777 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickimperial579 negative frames
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
@@syphion3777 oh i see. I didn't get what the ve stands for lol. that's crazy that some are minus on hit
@syphion3777
@syphion3777 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickimperial579 marduk's down 2 is minus 2 And i think down 4 is minus 5 Qcf 2 is +5 on hit and u cant do it again they can interrupt u if u do it again with 12 or 13 frames if im not wrong Downback 4 is almost useless because u fall down and don't have any good mixup unless u get a clean hit for which u need to be at point blank range Downback 3 is the same case but it is a little bit good Vts down 1+2 is -33 on block and can be interupted depending on the situation And i think that's it
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 жыл бұрын
@@syphion3777 man that sucks. I kinda hate it when characters in fighting games have moves that are minus on hit. I'm fine if it was negative 1 or 2 but more than that is just ridiculous
@elvivacious9487
@elvivacious9487 4 жыл бұрын
The reason jdcr can duck strings and crouch cancel electric reliably is that he ducks highs using df instead of dB or d , using df to duck highs buffers the forward input to make it so that when you duck using df you only need to input the electric afterwards
@elvivacious9487
@elvivacious9487 4 жыл бұрын
joceja23 that’s just high execution and it’s actually just frame , almost impossible
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that the df buffers a forward input so he inputs: df,n,d,df2? Or do you mean he ducks with df and the hits f because his stick is closer to the f position?
@GunarebleCato
@GunarebleCato 4 жыл бұрын
@@grantgarbour I honestly don't find the df buffering F to be accurate as this is the first time I'm hearing about it but that's just my opinion. You can either CC with SS or (dash electric) f,f,N,d,df.
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
@@GunarebleCato yeah f,f,n,d,df is the easiest way for me to do it. Especially since launch punishable lows usually give you a decent amount of time to launch them. I've never heard of df buffering a forward input either, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that
@Tongue.Tornado
@Tongue.Tornado 4 жыл бұрын
@joceja23 yes he can because of his mist step
@petergriffin5539
@petergriffin5539 4 жыл бұрын
At least give the old man an F knowing that he's a senior citizen
@ephraimdivina4828
@ephraimdivina4828 4 жыл бұрын
Man i like Heihachi so cool and i want to learn him but his execution demand is too much for me 😩
@caffeholictj1708
@caffeholictj1708 3 жыл бұрын
How about heihachi's df 1,2??
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
Idk man I've been to majors and locals if you get there early enough you can definitely get some warm up casual sets, and if not just warm up in your hotel room, or before you leave the house if it's close
@Jonathan-cz4ky
@Jonathan-cz4ky 4 жыл бұрын
You say “if you get there early enough” but most people have to travel to the tournaments and some of the times internationally! Very difficult to get there “early enough” let alone even have time to warm up in your hotel room before the start of a tournament.
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-cz4ky yes we all know of people who have trouble in customs like arslan and gets to the tournament late or as soon as it starts which sucks and is out of his control. But if you are traveling to a tournament then you should definitely plan to have enough time to arrive comfortably, get settled, eat and warm up. Especially if traveling internationally, flights are delayed all the time, should plan to arrive a day earlier. For locals don't plan to arrive as soon as the tournament begins, I try to get to my locals hours in advance and a lot of people are already there waiting for it to begin and warming up. I've been to a lot of locals on the east coast, tri state area and they are all like this no matter the travel time. Maybe it's different in europe
@Jonathan-cz4ky
@Jonathan-cz4ky 4 жыл бұрын
Grant Barbour There lies the problem though, many people have to work around their own schedules, some people work, some have kids, some have school. And of course there’s the issue of financial ability to book flights, (other days are more expensive than others and hotel prices vary greatly). Sure it’s awesome to plan ahead, but not everybody has the same luxury and there tend to be other complications that are out of their hands.
@SnakeFang
@SnakeFang 4 жыл бұрын
10:09 What makes DJ's jab better than Heihachi and Kazuya's?
@josemota9188
@josemota9188 3 жыл бұрын
Dj's jab has mad range compared to kaz and heihachi, making punishes more consistent and more capable of controling space
@AzgarthX
@AzgarthX 3 жыл бұрын
new upcoming video after 4.20 patch: Why Heihachi is a God in tournaments
@TheNonHiddenSingularity
@TheNonHiddenSingularity 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t age well
@overkillrick
@overkillrick 4 жыл бұрын
Video on electric block punishing ?:((
@neloangelo7297
@neloangelo7297 4 жыл бұрын
He got lumbago!
@gallantsteel8542
@gallantsteel8542 2 жыл бұрын
can you explain why jin is good in tournaments?
@Mysterious13138
@Mysterious13138 3 жыл бұрын
Tekken 5 tas heihachi: hold my belt!
@MRxyz940
@MRxyz940 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that jdcr heihachi isnt compareable to choksaes. But he is probably the better tekken player .
@felipechaves6100
@felipechaves6100 4 жыл бұрын
Different styles tbh. I don’t think they’re comparable
@suzuku6974
@suzuku6974 3 жыл бұрын
@@felipechaves6100 they need to increase hehachi style he is the best
@ibn_al-Xuffasch
@ibn_al-Xuffasch 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he returns in tekken 8....somehow
@justagamethrower
@justagamethrower 4 жыл бұрын
He probably will honestly, Kazumi is dead long before 7 and she's somehow here so who's to say they can't do the same with hei
@addydiesel6627
@addydiesel6627 4 жыл бұрын
He can be Heihachi Ghost
@adityasingh-ho7tt
@adityasingh-ho7tt 4 жыл бұрын
Cyborg heihachi
@ibn_al-Xuffasch
@ibn_al-Xuffasch 4 жыл бұрын
Ari Jappendi Bruh I just want him back anyway, I genuinely don't care whether he returns as an unplayable boss character or shit, I just wanna see him back at it again with a cool new design and a badass stage and theme
@GNF_cao
@GNF_cao 4 жыл бұрын
Why the frame data in game Say 11 for electric but you Say 14 ?
@sanchezo95
@sanchezo95 4 жыл бұрын
Because the inputs add to the start up of the move. Ewgf is 11 frames, but forward, neutral and down add 3 more frames, making it 14 frames as fast as possible.
@GNF_cao
@GNF_cao 4 жыл бұрын
@@sanchezo95 thx bro
@upplsuckimcool16
@upplsuckimcool16 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Heihachi have a low combo starter? Is it so slow more then DB2?
@ResonantNewt
@ResonantNewt 3 жыл бұрын
Hellsweeps
@rickeylee2820
@rickeylee2820 4 жыл бұрын
So basically, TMM wants Heihachi to have access to a i15f Launcher.
@TheNonHiddenSingularity
@TheNonHiddenSingularity 2 жыл бұрын
He has One. Just a diffucult one. Also it wouldn’t change very much … the problem of heihachi is the lows … duck only for hellsweep and it’s ok
@MaverickHunterVile
@MaverickHunterVile 4 жыл бұрын
What if Heihachi gained a launching safe HS as a rage drive? Like his old HS to Demon Uppercut from Tekken 3? Steve got a 14f launching RD, why can't Heihachi? It wouldn't break him. Also, decrease the recovery frames of WS 3, 1+2 on hit.
@MaverickHunterVile
@MaverickHunterVile 4 жыл бұрын
@Vance Walton But it's just another mid. TMM talked about his lack of good lows and poor 50/50. Giving him this extra RD addresses some of that problem without ruining the character.
@IHavePills
@IHavePills 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaverickHunterVile hei doesn't need a SAFE LAUNCHING LOW on top of his power mids and amazing df1. If you want to buff his lows, you have to nerf his mids.
@PrimoHydra
@PrimoHydra 4 жыл бұрын
@MaverickHunterVile @Vance Walton Ya love to see a regular non toxic discussion on the youtube comments, rare these days
@MaverickHunterVile
@MaverickHunterVile 4 жыл бұрын
@@IHavePills It's a once per round move, just like Steve's 14f launching Rage drive. It doesn't change anything about Heihachi's lows, outside of rage.
@IHavePills
@IHavePills 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaverickHunterVile I'm surprised you even used "safe", "low" and "launcher" in the same sentence. I'm not a fan of once per round overpowered moves. The same logic wouldn't apply with other characters anyway. I believe that if you're not trash like Gigas, those weaknesses give them identity. He was designed to be a high pressure character with good mids, punishment and damage, not a 50/50 character. Giving him a low with ridiculous properties like that would ruin his identity.
@dck6381
@dck6381 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see mainman in tournament.But in the finals
@ICEMAN-Z8
@ICEMAN-Z8 4 жыл бұрын
Why the electric is 11frames in the frame data???
@murcielago5290
@murcielago5290 4 жыл бұрын
That's the speed of the animation, players take the input into consideration so it's normally 14 frames
@leafygreensmusic
@leafygreensmusic 4 жыл бұрын
The frame data for moves like f,f or f,f,f or ff* do not count the frames. So when he says the fastest the electric comes out for Hei is 14 it is because the directional inputs usually count as 1 frame each - so electric is 11 F + 1 Frame for forward input + 1 frame for neutral + 1 frame d,df input
@inujosha
@inujosha 2 жыл бұрын
This may be a very noob question, but how do you reset your positioning like he did in practice mode and how on earth can you make the computer actually fight you in practice mode? Extra useless information: I looked up player data online for Tekken 7 ranked play online. There are only 1800 players in the United States. I main Ganryu and never realized just how little people know and play him. Out of 1800 people that play online in the United States, there are only 5 Ganryu players, and I'm one of them. 😳
@chandan1583
@chandan1583 2 жыл бұрын
How and where did you look up ??
@rossanderson4156
@rossanderson4156 4 жыл бұрын
Finally some decent content on YT again from mainman
@BBK187
@BBK187 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 lol TMM obviously forget that Heihachi has f32 into ff2 which actually gives more easy mode i15 damage compared to Kazuya, and very good oki!
@kyuuk3tsuki
@kyuuk3tsuki 4 жыл бұрын
you might have that backwards f+2, 3
@romansidiropoulos7033
@romansidiropoulos7033 4 жыл бұрын
and its safe, but i guess TMM is talking about mid options, to mixup with the electric
@TheNonHiddenSingularity
@TheNonHiddenSingularity 2 жыл бұрын
Is ff2 linked ? I don’t think so .. + oki for What ? There is no 50/50 with heihachi while kazuya has One
@BBK187
@BBK187 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheNonHiddenSingularity ff2 is guaranteed after f23, and you can get very good oki after each grounded ff2
@TheNonHiddenSingularity
@TheNonHiddenSingularity 2 жыл бұрын
@@BBK187 following your comment, I just checked and … tadam : it is not And again as I said, oki position on heihachi is not near as usefull as Kazuya ..
@pokc4016
@pokc4016 4 жыл бұрын
Actually,I think in his last video,JDCR said that Heihachi is the best Mishima in the game,myb it's a little subjective,but what u thinking about that?
@h13nr1
@h13nr1 4 жыл бұрын
If you have aggressive playstyle
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
@@h13nr1 jdcr actually said he likes hei because he can play defensively lmao kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9GXf5ylp9KWdYk.html
@pokc4016
@pokc4016 4 жыл бұрын
@@grantgarbour Yeah,JDCR likes to play very patient and defensive,but he's Heihachi is godlike no matter how bad he is as a tournament character
@grantgarbour
@grantgarbour 4 жыл бұрын
@@pokc4016 yep, playing defensive in this game is way harder than playing offensive. Just shows how good he is and how much he likes tekken lol
@Scrabble12
@Scrabble12 4 жыл бұрын
at 3:40 what does he say? It gives you very good what?
@valencia4943
@valencia4943 3 жыл бұрын
oki
@borone1998
@borone1998 4 жыл бұрын
2 uploads in 1 day? Is this a dream? im cooming
@ldking5132
@ldking5132 4 жыл бұрын
When mainman uploads he always uploads several vids that day.
@elvararchfeld9734
@elvararchfeld9734 4 жыл бұрын
Hello cooming I'm dad
@itshuncho9309
@itshuncho9309 4 жыл бұрын
Y is it easier to do a electric with kazuya than the other mishimas
@PrimoHydra
@PrimoHydra 4 жыл бұрын
He has multiple inputs for it, and another frame of leniency considering u can do it a frame faster than any other mishimas
@itshuncho9309
@itshuncho9309 4 жыл бұрын
I know all of that except for the multiple inputs wat u mean by that what are the inputs
@PrimoHydra
@PrimoHydra 4 жыл бұрын
Its Huncho if u press f n df2, quickly, u get an electric. I would’ve responded sooner but I wanted to test it first 😅 he can do it the original way as well obviously but f, n, df2, is way easier and consistent in my opinion
@daft2114
@daft2114 4 жыл бұрын
you dont have to be super strong to block d/b2 lets say 33% to 50%. The reasion is the audio
@eldonearlcleofas8281
@eldonearlcleofas8281 4 жыл бұрын
ohh you mean him shouting "BASHHEE" or something like that
@kylefields3951
@kylefields3951 Жыл бұрын
VS Fighting 2nd place, OTB 1st Place, East Coast Throwdown 2nd Place. Heihachi's been on a tear recently no cap.
@rpast5656
@rpast5656 4 жыл бұрын
Wait hold up ganryu and heihachi both have a headbutt are they both bad
@neverendingstory8379
@neverendingstory8379 4 жыл бұрын
JDCR vs TMM first to 10 The Old Man vs The Son
@best_dad_ever5716
@best_dad_ever5716 4 жыл бұрын
Nah...many good players do block db2 , even online...they block when he sneezes "Haaasheeehh"
@parasectkazuyabandicoot5360
@parasectkazuyabandicoot5360 4 жыл бұрын
Best_DAD_Ever I always hear “Hussy!”
@photondebuger45
@photondebuger45 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...... Sounds like tournaments are just who can be the accurate with very strong and easier characters kinda reminds me of Tekken 6 tournaments where it's just bobs everywhere
@SalveASMR
@SalveASMR 4 жыл бұрын
You can say he's a bit rusty in tournaments.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 3 жыл бұрын
WELL SEASON 4 SURE SOLVED THAT WS 3,1+2 PROBLEM...
@Gitohandro
@Gitohandro 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you always said kazuya is harder
@chrislabedzski9076
@chrislabedzski9076 Жыл бұрын
Well the actual reason is because jin and kazuya and devil jin are more popular and look cooler, aswell as popular with the ladies too, they are the main roster of Tekken games therefore they be mostly chosen because of it,,, plus I ran into Jin 8 times in a row, and kazuya 5 times in a row without restart the same battle
@six-stringphantom1402
@six-stringphantom1402 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I think of the stereotypical asian and then some.. JDCR comes to mind immediately. Hell, didn't he wear glasses without the lens? What was that about
@kachym5064
@kachym5064 4 жыл бұрын
is it good to start takken7 right now ?
@garryjones1776
@garryjones1776 3 жыл бұрын
no
@Duplotopf
@Duplotopf Жыл бұрын
@Kayden McCallum lol
@ryangalloway3107
@ryangalloway3107 Жыл бұрын
He's not bad, he's just irrelevant. No reason to play him in a tournament if DJ exists. Even Kazuya has the -13 punish niche.
@leonsantero9903
@leonsantero9903 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to at least mention otgf
@TheAlexhotz
@TheAlexhotz 2 жыл бұрын
Heihachi will forever be my main
@matthewtonna1
@matthewtonna1 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you always say firteen instead of THIRteen???? (13) 2:35
@justdplmao8749
@justdplmao8749 3 жыл бұрын
English isn’t his first language iirc
@pandawolf5990
@pandawolf5990 4 жыл бұрын
the real reason is bc grabbing is non existent in evo lmao you gotta kick and punch
@Darkerwolf03
@Darkerwolf03 4 жыл бұрын
Why is kazuya's electric easier?
@xaviercasseus5353
@xaviercasseus5353 4 жыл бұрын
You can cheat out kazuya's with f n df+2 instead of f n d df+2.
@PrimoHydra
@PrimoHydra 4 жыл бұрын
Xavier Casseus it’s not really a cheat. It’s apart of his mist step I think it’s called, can’t recall at the moment but it’s been in the games for ages
@xaviercasseus5353
@xaviercasseus5353 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimoHydra i meant it in a way as it can be done faster.
@justaotter2085
@justaotter2085 3 жыл бұрын
heihachi has the best pokes of all mishimas lol
@justaotter2085
@justaotter2085 3 жыл бұрын
@Kayden McCallum hey that's cheating XD I mean even then Jin slightly overcomes heihachi with a reliable ws2 or uf2 but only slightly lol but I feel hei is more versatile imo
@meme_market5949
@meme_market5949 Жыл бұрын
Heihachi will always be the most chad Mishima
@crosleybendix97
@crosleybendix97 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to have a now canonically dead character to be dead in the tiers.
@jays.6843
@jays.6843 4 жыл бұрын
Kazumi.
@crosleybendix97
@crosleybendix97 4 жыл бұрын
@@jays.6843 fair point
@Kisame253
@Kisame253 4 жыл бұрын
Heihachi is great and Jdcr is a beast
@The15231
@The15231 4 жыл бұрын
What's a tournament?
@trishanliam
@trishanliam 3 жыл бұрын
heihachi mishima isn’t bad player in a tournament or online. There are No bad or broken tekken character it how you control character them
@jinkazama7587
@jinkazama7587 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I see Japanese/Korean crazy Heihachi players. This probably due to TMM mains Kazuya.
@MarelWhite
@MarelWhite 4 жыл бұрын
your face cam hurts my eyes, there is something off with the colors or brightness
@vhyles
@vhyles 4 жыл бұрын
I think that he's just too white xD
@MarelWhite
@MarelWhite 4 жыл бұрын
@@vhyles yeah thats probably it xD
@FGirao
@FGirao 4 жыл бұрын
Poor old man, I like to play him but you gotta have years of mishima training
@bigdsweet
@bigdsweet 4 жыл бұрын
No you don't. Why do people think Mishimas are impossible to play without hours of practice?
@JoaoPedro-ps8lk
@JoaoPedro-ps8lk 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigdsweet do an electric without training
@bigdsweet
@bigdsweet 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoaoPedro-ps8lk That's the thing right. You can't play them unless you do electrics? That is wrong. They are plenty of fun to play without electrics especially Heihachi since he has some of the best mids in the game.
@Daevic10
@Daevic10 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigdsweet it's the best move in the game lol, u can't just ignore it
@takasquad1391
@takasquad1391 4 жыл бұрын
bigdsweet heihachi without ewgf = no damage heihachi
@dreikonoz77
@dreikonoz77 4 жыл бұрын
is this a mishima true baby ? :D wher are the diapers :D
@GodlyCarnage
@GodlyCarnage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate you’re a fucking legend
@madnesssupreme
@madnesssupreme 4 жыл бұрын
Was this video made because JDCR said Heihachi was best Mishima?
@memphisphonky811
@memphisphonky811 4 жыл бұрын
I actually find akuma the easiest char...I could already do his facd without thinking I find if you played a lot of sf4 you would find it easier.
@eldonearlcleofas8281
@eldonearlcleofas8281 4 жыл бұрын
Yep SF4 version Akumer has more tighter execution that this version of Akumer.
@memphisphonky811
@memphisphonky811 4 жыл бұрын
@@eldonearlcleofas8281 Akuma/gouki and geese difficult for a tekken players easy for a 2d players :P
@aligamerable
@aligamerable 4 жыл бұрын
For someone that never played a 2D fighter, Akuma is the hardest character. Now I understand how much damage he can do when you have execution and I respect that.
@GunarebleCato
@GunarebleCato 4 жыл бұрын
Heihachi has i15 f23 into guaranteed ff2 but has strict timing. Still execution heavy.
@retardedmeliodas2042
@retardedmeliodas2042 4 жыл бұрын
f23 is only natural on ch what are you talking about
@GunarebleCato
@GunarebleCato 4 жыл бұрын
@@retardedmeliodas2042 lol you're kidding me. Right? F23 is a natural combo on normal hit please do some labbing before deciding to post what you don't know about.
@WeMissDimebag
@WeMissDimebag 4 жыл бұрын
It’s natural and borderline hit confirmable on regular hit.
@jheddrickloyola3103
@jheddrickloyola3103 4 жыл бұрын
JDCR *wants to know your location*
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