Yea, ive never had a bike with e-start and im gonna keep it that was as long as i can. gotta stay young

I'd rather have a Kickstart.... what happens when your out in the mountains and high elevation with temp changes.... what if your battery is going bad and didn't know it..... boom stuck like an idiot when all you would have had to do was keep kicking.

Bottom line is the bike sucks!

@@rip.n.Rob.61 no mercy😂

​@04756100 bike doesn't suck at all.. all you need to do is buy a new rear shock or send the stock one out forks are fine. Softer motor mounts help soften the chasis up. Most 450s are 10k+ you can build this suzuki and still be well under 10k

ya and people have been saying suzuki's bikes are no bueno for quite a while

@@utube358 dude! Every other bike has electric that makes this Kickstart Suzuki uncompetitive from the start !!!! Grow a brain please 😂

Unless you live in a one-horse backcountry town these things are being sold at $7999 still.

@@moodyshooty yeah, I don’t understand how the guy bought that bike for $5,300. Maybe the dealer was going out of business?

These guys are fn wankers....2 da looo!

@@thatalaskaguy I bought a brand new 2019 kx250 for $6500 OTD, then the dealer closed down a couple years later. But Kawi has rebates for their bikes too.

@@carsonevans4252 do you think the $5300 was a real price?

I put Torc1 Racing Vengence Flex control levers in gold on mine & it's sick. The package came with a set of black ones too, but the gold with the shocks looks nice.

I totally Agree,I bought a 2019 rmz450 brand new and did my own changes and additions,love the bike ,And I am no pro rider,Just a person with a passion to ride hard,No regrets

It's a good opinion. 99% of people cannot push even a base model stock suzuki to its ability. Way beyond what average joe realizes it's capable of.

And sound amazing

@@aydenrich262👍🇦🇺

I'd love that, it's awesome seeing yellow in the playing field again, nevermind the fact that it's Roczen👌🏼

You cannot develop a new bike in one year. Also you cannot develop a new bike if you are not in the MXGP series, which allows running prototypes. I bet there will be no new bike in 2024.

@@nestserau they might have been developing one this whole time and no one knows

The biggest thing for me right now (eyeing a new bike) is the missing e-start. I'm short and light, so I need to get the suspension re-done on any bike anyways. Also means if I tip over anywhere I always have a hell of a time getting the bike running again. An e-starter would help so much for that.

Keefer said all new 450 in 24

Yes you can. Get one while prices still good 👍🏻

For 5k you couldn’t get the weight near the Honda and it still wouldn’t have E start.

@@bradpowell843 I don´t think that the weight is a big of a deal. If u put 2k in the suspension 1k in an exhaust and 1k for a vortex I think you would get a better fitting bike than a stock Honda

They’re literally nearly $10k already in some regions. No clue where AJ got this 5300 number but every dealer in southern CA is selling RMZ 450s for $7999

@@bradpowell843you are a liar if you say you can tell the difference of 2 pounds 10 pounds yes very noticeable 2 pounds not noticeable you sure as hell can not tell the difference

Id wait til 24 when the new one comes out. Even if you want a 23 they will blow them out. When they update the bike

don't wait. cant go wrong.

A bike is a bike is a bike - when new ones come out they aren't totally reinventing the wheel, and if you found one say 6k and threw another $6-8k (which is basically what other brands will cost you OTD with taxes and fees) you will have a stupidly good machine. Your skill, technique, experience, and fitness is much more important, cause at the end of the day if you have those you can really push any machine and find comfort! -That's why I bought the CRF450R-S (2020 Twin pipe remake)! I got a stupid deal on it, and it's no lesser of a machine, and now I've built it into an RX...I will admit that I'm kind of a hypocrite though, cause this machine was my dream bike and wanted to keep it forever...so I invested more into it than what I paid for it, but I wanted comfort at speed, reliability, and wanted predictably at the old age of 35. lol I'm already broken from 5 deployments in the military, Federal Civil Service afterwards, and Deep Sea Diving working in the oil fields of the Gulf of Mexico - can't risk a big injury with my TBI so found Showa A-kit suspension very slightly used (3 Hrs), and Art of War re-valved it for me, and Bundy Built Engines helped me next door...I'll never buy anything else again between that and my 2019 TM Racing EN300ES 2t - just rebuild, and focus on my riding & fitness! SO GO GET THE ZUKE! Twisted Development can make that engine a baddy for $5k, buy a Barnett/Hinson/Rekluse clutch, and get suspension revalved and if you bought it for 5500-6k you've basically paid the same amount OTD as a new KTM 450 and really will have better quality and power with the same money invested - just my two cents. And KYB, Showa, WP, AND Ohlins (and I believe MX Tech) all make suspension for it if you want to upgrade later. You'll never be a better rider than the level of bike you can build - your bike will ALWAYS be a better bike than you are as a rider! 💪

@@jonathondavis170 you're talking about an unprecedented upgrade here. A bike that hasn't been updated since 2018 being updated for 2024 is not comparable to a year to year upgrade u typically see.

Lmao!

I would never buy a four stroke motorcycle for the motocross machine it just does not give me the hard on that I had when they were around

I've got a 2018 with 110 hrs and the crank went bad...that's right, top end and everything else is fine. Bike was full of oil aswell. Oil was changed 2 rides prior and screen was cleaned.

@@KrustyQuad 👊🏻

@herdfreak2 yea sucks man....not sure what the hell went wrong.... trying decide on which crank to get

That would be sweet. Do you think that would mean they’d create an R&D department?

@@DirtyMagpie181 yes . now a days “factory team “ doesn’t really mean in house it can be privately ran like that star yamaha team, in that case there is more flexibility to run parts that conflict with team sponsors , but the factory one off parts and development would be happening aswell with the japanese, which they were at the first two rounds so clearly they are developing something , or maybe that just went watch . but a factory team is coming and a new bike is coming that’s for sure

Geez dude, they didn’t kill JGR factory team just to start a new one. Also a couple dudes watching a race means just that.

I second that!!!

Someone gets it

Pennsylvania

That is a crapy dealer. They are out there you just got to dig a lil!

Waste of time and money Brett! Your average guy would not notice any difference! Just ride!

Here in Chicago I see them around $6400 so to hear that he got one for literally $1000 cheaper out the door is insane.. makes me somewhat want one since you’d have all the freed up money to mod this thing into a race ready bike. Just my opinion.

I don't know how he got that crazy deal, but I bought mine last year for 7k out the door. That was during the height of summer too.

Its well worth the price! $9k msrp is not cheap.

They’re $6400 out the door here in Illinois. Knowing that you can maybe get it way under that price is making me want to go back to the dealer and see what’s up lmfao.

@@OleMisss what dealership??

that is a tough test to do accurately as the fastest rider will nearly always be ahead, no matter the bike. its just bike math. yes even in a straight line.

Add on to my previous comment. $5300 out the door! Wow that’s a really good deal. I’m going to research this. Anyone know where you can get them that cheap? I almost find it hard to believe at that price.

@@shawntblin5423 here in Illinois they’re $6400 out the door according to my dealer. Wonder if that’s the best they can do because hearing $5300 out the door is making me really want to go back and buy it 😂😅

I’d say a Rmx is a good woods bike, pretty hard to find though

I know right. The base MSRP from Suzuki is $8,999.

Local dealer near me has 2024 kx450s going $6950 out the door.

Ya that is unheard of in California Where is this deal?

These dealers just need to move units apparently. I see them consistently for $6400 out the door here in Illinois. I almost pulled the trigger but now knowing it’s possible to get it way under $6000 makes me want to get back to a dealer and start asking for one lol. Can’t beat that price even with the downfalls. Just mod it with the extra cash into a race ready machine.

Welp too late I already got the KX. Bummer. Big buyers remorse

But the 2018 has other characteristics that the 2017 doesn’t

@Ayden Rich True but in Reeds opinion the previous gen was better

Don’t change it if there’s nothing wrong with it!

Must’ve woke up on the wrong side of the bed

Get one and find out

$5300? Jesus Christ. For that price you can’t even complain. You just freed up $4000 for all the mods that the other bikes would need too if you plan on really racing it hard. I saw them for $6400 out the door in my town and thought that was a good deal last winter. Guess I was wrong lol.

ya i mean 5300 is what people are selling 5 year old used bikes of any other brand on craigslist. granted, most of those still have electric start lol

@@randal3122 exactly, I wanna know where it was purchased at as ill buy one right now.

@@OleMisss yea, I wanna know where he got it for that damn cheap.

That's because kawasaki provides more financial and part support than any other manufacturer if you ride their bike as a privateer.

Privateers pick whichever bike has best OEM contingency payout.