EXPOSED: The Truth About Pennzoil and Quaker State (Plus A Sneak Peek At Our Next Video)

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EXPOSED: The Truth About Pennzoil and Quaker State (Plus A Sneak Peek At Our Next Video)

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Pennzoil and Quaker State make motor oils that are the same viscosity, the same specification, and they are made in the same plant. Could they actually be the same oil?
We analyzed a bottle of Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 Synthetic and Quaker State 5W-30 Synthetic to find out. Watch as Certified Lubrication Specialist, Lake Speed Jr, reveals the findings. The results are quite interesting...
We also provide a sneak peek at an upcoming video based on the comments from this video: • EXPIRED: When Does New...
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Who is the ⁠ @themotoroilgeek ? I'm a Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers Certified Lubrication Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst (I've maintained both of those for over a decade). I also worked for Joe Gibbs Racing for 12 years as their lubricant specialist. During that time, we worked with Wix Filters (one of our sponsors) to test and develop filters for our race engines. We also worked with Lubrizol and Chevron-Phillips Chemical to test and develop oils for our race cars. Following that, I was the head of R&D for Driven Racing Oil. During that time, I formulated and tested over 50 products. We also worked with Cummins, Comp Cams, Oak Ridge National Labs and General Motors on various R&D products. Those efforts are recorded in peer reviewed white papers published by SAE International and ACS Sustainable Chemistry journals.
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@dougrobinson8602 6 ай бұрын

Please do the history of motor oil. I'd also love to see you evaluate Big Box brands like Kirkland and Supertech. Keep on educating us. There are a lot of snake oil myths to be busted!

@dalehilborn691 6 ай бұрын

Kirkland, supertech, and Amazon basics are all blended by the same place

@vais3 6 ай бұрын

@@dalehilborn691 Warren oil. I believe they’re a blender and distributor. Not certain where their base stocks come from.

@Good-luck-Jonathan 6 ай бұрын

Those are low-end group 3 and don’t compare to some of the better ones when you look at the lab work from users postings.

@tuckerhiggins4336 6 ай бұрын

They're fine. Any oil is better than no oil

@camsheet4649 6 ай бұрын

I’d love to know about Kirkland please

@BornToDrive1500E 6 ай бұрын

A video about history of motor oil would be really nice!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@Michael-yi4mc 6 ай бұрын

Once upon a time in the 1800’s. Yawn!

@boostedrex9460 3 ай бұрын

Yawn for you. Not for me or others requesting it bozo @@Michael-yi4mc

@derekelliott6098 3 ай бұрын

*engine

@JimSix-jo6hf 2 ай бұрын

I would love to see it, motor oils have changed a lot, and Lake is the guy to do it

@MrEFHATCH1990 3 ай бұрын

A channel about one of the most hotly debated and hated subjects on internet car forums, genius! Now we just need a guy to break down the science on tires and there will be no more fights on the forums! Great work on this channel, I love it!

@lazerusmfh 3 ай бұрын

Tyre Reviews right here on KZfaq. Amazing guy.

@indyrock8148 2 ай бұрын

Lol was going say this. He does agreat job@@lazerusmfh

@Guspech750 4 ай бұрын

I never thought learning about the science of oil could be entertaining. But Lake manages to accomplish that quite easily. 👌

@JimSix-jo6hf 2 ай бұрын

yes he does a great job, I learn new things on every video

@williambikash6645 6 ай бұрын

IN the mid 1970's Smokey wrote about and tested a synthetic oil called All proof 5w-50. The article was in Popular Science magazine. He built a mild 302 Chevy and gained 20 hp and lowered oil temp by about 15 degrees. Went back to mineral oil and lost the 20 hp. He pulled the heads between tests and checked the valves etc. I called Smokey and ordered enough oil for 2 302 Ford boat engines. My gains were similar to his. I was thrilled with the results and thrilled to speak with Smokey. When i called back to reorder for another oil change he informed me that the chemist died and his son changed the formula and he didn't like it. The oil came out of Superior, Wisconsin. Recently i read that the product became part of Royal Purple.I currently use Mobil 1 15w-50 in BBC marine engines and some hiper Chevy small block boat engines that don't always have oil coolers like the BBC. The Mobil 1 15w-50 was first marketed about 1986. Always looking for the " perfect" motor oil😂 Your information adds another level of understanding, Thanks

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

I remember reading about that oil in his book.

@williambikash6645 6 ай бұрын

The oil cost $5.00 a quart, back in the 1970's and the 302 oil pans were oversize and held 7-8 quarts each engine..

@vsam868 6 ай бұрын

I changed the oil in my wife's car for years. It was only when I did the first change using Royal Purple with Synerlec (not the API certified oil) she came back and asked what did I do to the car. She said it drove better, quieter and engine felt stronger. She thought I did some kind of tune to the engine. I told her all I did was an oil change. That experience sold me on RP and I used that in my own car and the engine did feel stronger.

@mikeschlup5279 6 ай бұрын

Polyol Ester 2 to 1...plus some PAO..!

@williambikash6645 6 ай бұрын

@@mikeschlup5279 Are these chemicals still used and marketed by which oil companies? Thanks

@kanyeeastlolz 6 ай бұрын

-My thoughts on oil and related topics : -My favorite oil is the cheapest often Costco supertech or Amazon. - I like Penzoil ultra platinum, but only when it’s on sale - Wix filters always. -I’ve found that using a fumoto drainvalve and changing the oil early works wonders if you’re looking to own a car long term like 200k miles -4k-5k in mileage is the sweet spot for changing oil within 6 months

@Good-luck-Jonathan 6 ай бұрын

Warren distribution stuff is low and group 3 and you’ll get more metals than Pennzoil platinum ultra, which is one of the best off shelf oils. 200,000 miles no problem with the Warren oil and wicks filter. If you want to go to 400,000 miles better use platinum ultra and Fram ultra or Amsoil filters. In some engines certain Amsoil oils perform better than platinum ultra, but you need to do analysis trending if that is the case with your application.

@JoseHernandez-tz6xl 6 ай бұрын

you must own a Subaru

@Logjammer69 5 ай бұрын

I had back to back 2 wix gold filters seep on me.

@jd646 5 ай бұрын

Learn to install an oil filter @@Logjammer69

@OxBlitzkriegxO 4 ай бұрын

Wix filters are ok but they don't filter very well. Independent tests on BITOG have proven their synth filter nosedives at 20 microns, BAD.

@fordrac1ng81 6 ай бұрын

Spent the last 15 or so years nerding out on BITOG so I am very glad content creators like you have started making videos about these subjects.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@gobsmacked230 3 ай бұрын

I've been a BITOG aficionado since it started. Even though I'm now retired and driving a LOT less I still love this stuff...keep 'em coming Lake!

@anthonyiannone7618 4 ай бұрын

chemistry over brand , thats a great statement and i would love to learn what you have to say. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT MR SPEED!!!!

@frankjones4094 6 ай бұрын

I'm in Lake. You pretty much turned me into an oil geek now.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

LOL

@nathanielcasas8923 6 ай бұрын

This is definitely one of my favorite channels on KZfaq! No other channel is doing what the motor oil geek is doing for us and showing us the actual science and not just repeating what the motor oil company is saying about their own oil! 👍👍👍

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@El_Diablo_LI 6 ай бұрын

It's very obvious to many of us that you're speaking the truth based on science. So I think we would all love to see an episode, or more, on the history of motor oil I first became interested in motor oils when I bought my first brand new motorcycle in 1986. I wondered why there were car motor oils and motorcycle motor oils and wondered if I could run the cheaper of the two in my bike. I was also told at the time to not run synthetic oil in my bike because it would make the seals shrink causing oil leaks. Low and behold, against that original piece of advice, I did and actually started to see some oil seeping out of some seals which immediately made me switch back to conventional oil. That told me at the time there were significant differences in certain types of oils, but I'm also now aware that the additives are just as important, if not more, than what the base oil is made from. I'm so glad I found this channel and hope to get all of my questions answered over time as I watch future and past episodes. Thank you!

@dyllanmarshall3506 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for all the information and the video.

@sirdewd2197 6 ай бұрын

I feel like @LibricationExplained does a more detailed analysis.

@terrybuckwalter2340 3 ай бұрын

All consumers of motor oil should watch your videos. Science NOT speculation! Do not doubt for a moment the value of the research you provide to us! THANK YOU!

@themotoroilgeek 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@kevinarnott9484 3 ай бұрын

Yes thank you very much 🤙

@kevinarnott9484 3 ай бұрын

I’m waiting for the the Amsoil test!!! I will say this I ran Amsoil 2 stroke oil in my chain saw years ago and it was like a brand new saw , I don’t cut much anymore haven’t used it since, back when I tried it it was hard to find “ early 90’s lol, you or anyone reading this I have a ford 3.5 ecoboost , I want to do what’s right , I just put a quart of Lucas in my oil change, I’m going to dump it out !!!

@MyerShift7 2 ай бұрын

Sadly, we've seen that science is speculation and propaganda with left wing nuts

@dbmail545 4 ай бұрын

I'm old enough to remember "Pennsylvania grade" motor oil base. All I would run in my performance engines: HD40 for air-cooled engines, HD30 for water-cooled engines.

@themotoroilgeek 4 ай бұрын

Right on!

@outwiththem 2 ай бұрын

Single grade. And some STP in too. Too thick. I was young and youtube was a vulgar word..

@redlywaxer 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Lake for all your testing, teaching, and sharing. So glad we found your channel! And yes, please do a history of motor oil for us!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@aoeuidhtnsnthdiueoa 6 ай бұрын

I can't wait for your history of motor oil video!

@24hourgmtchannel64 6 ай бұрын

Yes, 9:52 is exactly what I'm say when I stupidly engage in any oil debate. Yes, I also would be interested in the history of motor oil.

@kendavis1198 6 ай бұрын

Tell y'all what folks. SCHAEFFERS OIL is gonna be Right at the TOP of the HISTORY OF MOTOR OIL. They started out making some Weird stuff, and Wagon Wheel GREASE! Guarantee it'll be right at the Beginning Somewhere of the History Of Motor Oil!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@tomm9860 5 ай бұрын

Ford Motor Oil and the Oil OIlzum use to be the best in my day.

@rshettle123 4 ай бұрын

The best oil is by whoever changes it the most.

@klauswilson4687 3 ай бұрын

I agree changing oil is more important. Frequency is everything.

@philipfarnam6013 2 ай бұрын

Agree. It's a machine. Put oil in it. Change it once in a while...and don't drive like an idiot. You'll be fine.

@markdavidson1049 2 ай бұрын

Not really. The best oil is the one that has the best wear protection and sludge prevention and ALSO gets changed on time.

@lonniebeal6032 2 ай бұрын

@@klauswilson4687 Nope, the additive package is everything.

@Shadows-RC 2 ай бұрын

@@lonniebeal6032There are folks with a LOT of miles on stuff like Kirkland and SuperTech synthetic. OG poster is correct. Keep it changed and clean without going overboard. If it's not a super car, get realistic and drop the super dee duper veja veeta vitamin oils. People are making obsession into a hobby. It's neurotic imo.

@airline3hum 5 ай бұрын

This never gets old! Who would have thought oil would be this fascinating, even for us gear heads. But then again, what's more important for any mechanical device rotating 1000's of times a minute for hours at a time than healthy oil. Love that you're testing and comparing the big brand names, too!

@themotoroilgeek 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@sm7091bs 6 ай бұрын

Always nice to watch your content! Not to long, informative and some humor makes it delightful to watch. Greeting from the Netherlands

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@John_D2 6 ай бұрын

A video on "the best oil for air cooled engines" would be really interesting. Thanks for the vids, Lake !

@mrtdiver 6 ай бұрын

Are you thinking for airplanes? That's my first thought when you say air cooled.

@felixschubert7800 6 ай бұрын

Porsche & VW Bug

@gnarlytothemax 6 ай бұрын

and Harleys@@felixschubert7800

@brianchisnell1548 2 ай бұрын

I use Valvoline VR-1 straight 30wt in my VW engine. High zinc, for flat tappet engines. Really happy with how much quieter the engine is.

@davidbays9848 5 ай бұрын

I worked for 12 years at The Lubrizol Chemical plant at Deer Park, TX. I was an operator involved with the processing of the Marine Diesel Oil Detergent Component. It was a Labor Intensive Process, very little automation and Lots and Lots of Filtering the end product. The Plant was built in 1955. All the Bottling was done in Channelview,TX.

@themotoroilgeek 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! We used several products that came from the Deer Park plant at JGR.

@barongilocano 5 ай бұрын

Please make a video about mixing oils - different brands, different viscosity, etc. Thanks, Lake! Wishing you all the best for this channel.

@themotoroilgeek 5 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

@rickss69 3 ай бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek Yeah great...then nobody knows what the heck you have concocted or it's properties.

@vais3 6 ай бұрын

GTL based oils are one of my favorites. History of the oil would likely be helpful for many people. Especially an introduction of the various oil group types for some.

@matthiasgrunwald895 6 ай бұрын

Why?

@vais3 6 ай бұрын

@@matthiasgrunwald895 in what regard are you asking why?

@supersportimpalass 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@vais3he is obviously curious why you say GTL based oils are your favorite. Is it really that hard to figure out his question based on your comment? 🤦🏼‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@vais3 6 ай бұрын

@@supersportimpalass very open ended question to an entire statement. Yes, I will ask for clarity before conveying my message. I’m thankful you could respond for them.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@d.vinny1997 6 ай бұрын

Oh this is awesome! I use both of these oils and I’ve often wondered the differences since they are both SOPUS products. Thanks so much for taking the time to properly inform fellow oil nerds like myself! I am really looking forward to your motor oil history video!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@smg1093 4 ай бұрын

I was born and grew up in Oil City, PA, home of Pennzoil, QS, Wolfshead, and Amalie. The natives always used Pennzoil.

@bullwag1978 4 ай бұрын

Been using wolfshead forever at this point

@TastySurrealBowl 6 ай бұрын

It’s good to hear you emphatically state IT’S NOT THE BRAND THAT MATTERS it’s WHAT’S IN THE BRAND. Too many car guys love to bluster on about what they always relied on “back in the day” because they had X number of cars run 250,000 miles without a hiccup using “good ol’ reliable ____”. I grew up loyal to conventional Quaker State in my first 30 years of cars (80s, 90s, 00’s). Then when everything changed and little GDI engines with turbos became the new normal I relearned how to find the right oil for each vehicle I bought based on its individual engine. I quickly learned brand is not what matters most anymore. Thank you for your analysis & advice on the samples I’ve sent to SpeedDiagnostix, and thank you for making these videos and continuing to educate!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@akdomun 6 ай бұрын

History of motor oil would be great, especially the landmark court case between Mobil1 and Castrol which allowed any oil (semi synthetics included) which performed like a true synthetic to be called a synthetic in the US!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@hotrodray6802 6 ай бұрын

All the more reason the we need LAKE SPEED Jr.

@billp5656 6 ай бұрын

Would be highly interested

@eugeneoreilly9356 6 ай бұрын

Castrol f****d it up for everyone by imho falsely winning the court case.

@rolandotillit2867 6 ай бұрын

That actually blows my mind, I thought QS was a GTL based oil, thanks for setting the record straight!

@Nellis202 6 ай бұрын

It’s still damn good oil and at a great price. Their Ultimate Protection is as good as any advanced synthetic oil out there and can be had for $22 at Walmart. Just a dollar more than SuperTech or Kirkland. For a 5,000 OCI , it just can’t be beat.

@kalani1987 5 ай бұрын

@@Nellis202as of 3/1/24, this QS Ultimate is on sale on Walmart online for $19 per 5 qt jug

@jimotten6206 5 ай бұрын

The ultra endurance Quaker State might be GTL Beausoleil

@wholeNwon 4 ай бұрын

@@kalani1987 Which is why I bought it and I keep my cars "forever"...26 yrs. now with my daily driver. No issues. I also ignore the time interval between changes.

@123suzukisamurai 2 ай бұрын

Just discovered your channel. Fascinating and very informative content. Thanks for these

@murrayjimm 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the results on pup versus QS.

@charlesjacobs9785 6 ай бұрын

It would be very interesting to see the history of motor oil

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@keithfraley9275 6 ай бұрын

Bob is no longer the oil guy, YOU ARE. I'm glad I discovered your channel. Great info. Keep it coming.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Wow! Thank you!!!

@buckaroobonsi555 6 ай бұрын

Bob is dead and has been for some time. He was a great guy I knew him and was on bitog from the beginning. He was a Schaeffers sale rep not a chemistist or tribologist. You did not know him and are talking out your rear! The modern site is a mere shadow of what it once was. On top of that NORIA is a better place to go if you actual want to have intelligent conversations about lubrication of all kinds!

@DGander007 6 ай бұрын

“Bob is the oil guy”. BITOG is the OG of online oil forum and advice. Truly a pioneer. He will be missed. That said, this KZfaq channel is great as well. Cheers.

@CedroCron 6 ай бұрын

Yeah it's full of junk science and a heavy amount of bias on their forums and when you question them the mob jumps all over you. I left a while ago.

@Good-luck-Jonathan 6 ай бұрын

Does Noria have a forum to make posts? @@buckaroobonsi555

@speterbilt 6 ай бұрын

I use pennzoil ultra-platinum in my 2017 v6 Tacoma for the last 2yrs. It is fantastic. Truck idles so smooth. Can't even tell it's running and has over 127k miles on it.

@rubenfranko6600 2 ай бұрын

I just started using penszoil platinum on tacoma and it’s awesome next time ultra platinum.

@speterbilt 2 ай бұрын

@@rubenfranko6600 the utra platinum is amazing. My truck idles so smooth. It took like 2 changes for it to idle so smooth, but worth it

@oveidasinclair982 5 ай бұрын

I use Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20 in my 07 Camry (only 68K miles) and 0W-20 (112K miles) high mileage in my 13 RAV4, I do 3000 mile oil changes on both cars using OEM filters. I am totally satisfied with the Pennzoil natural gas derived oils. My 07 Toyota Camry is a known oil eater, Toyota used low tension rings on the pistons from 2006 to 2009. I purchased this car in March 2023 with 61,100 verified miles on the vehicle (real good CarFax report). When I change oil it takes about 4.8 quarts to get to the fill line on the dip stick and around 2200 miles I have to pour the rest of the oil left in the 5qt jug to get it back to the fill line. I did 3 oil changes on it so far (little over 10,000 I put on it over the last year), all three change sequences were identical. I use 5w-20, the oil pass through over the rings is minimal, on the RAV4 there is NO oil pass through over the rings, I never have to add oil to that engine over the 3000 mile change interval.

@propergarage4249 3 ай бұрын

Put some thicker oil in it 5-40 would be perfect!

@kevinirvine8038 6 ай бұрын

Thanks lake for the great topics and high end video quality. Some of my favorite videos on KZfaq by far!!!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@dwaynemcallister7231 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Lake! I recall in 1991 after I built a 351C engine for street a drag usage after break in I chose Torco 5W-40, the dealer provided me with brochure's on the history of the Torco brand going back to the post WWII era. They spoke of Gus Johnston, Bob Lancaster who invented the first 20W-50 racing oil in 1948 long before SAE identified this viscosity. He was racing a Ariel Square Four at El Mirage dry lake in California and he needed to find a way make the engine live through a race.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@save16thave 6 ай бұрын

351C engines are great and are the king of all small blocks. Just had to say that.

@dwaynemcallister7231 6 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree, and ai do miss beast, owned it 30 years. The guy I sold it to pulled the quench heads and put open chamber on it, big mistake, but yeah they can really make a lot of power.@@save16thave

@donrichter3523 6 ай бұрын

Which is why Ford dumped it after about 5 years.

@dwaynemcallister7231 6 ай бұрын

After 1971 they were looking for low emissions, performance was dead @@donrichter3523

@SlwRpr 6 ай бұрын

Shake or no shake, first time i have ever heard that from anyone other than me to myself. I tend to shake the oil bottle some before using in engines. I'm just thinking i don't want to leave any of those additives stuck to the inside of the bottle. Enjoy your videos and all the research you share.

@arnimkrause5696 4 ай бұрын

Same here. Been changing my own oil and filter close to 50 years and I always shake the bottle first before pouring it into my engine.

@scottwhitcher265 6 ай бұрын

First time seeing your video explaination. As an engineer (and old mechanic), I enjoyed it. I've beed using Pennz since the '70's and ling ago noticed customers who used QS in their cars tended to have paraffin gumming things up. Those who used Pennz, Valvoline or Castrol stayed clean. Much agree with the one who pointed out that oil change FREQUENCY is most important. Do the math and it would take a lot of " extra" oil changes to equal the cost of an overhaul...even one you do yourself...Same goes for paying a bit more for a Wix or quality oil filter.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@richcombs4805 6 ай бұрын

Such a pleasure to listen to a fellow engineer. Having helped application engineer and sell API machinery governed by 2000 pages of enduser specs and Shell DEP specs, I can say for sure that their ultra tough project requirements tend to yield higher quality and consistency, and that Ultra certainly helped my car reach 400,000 miles. I did not know Shell owned them and the additive company until now....very interesting!!!! I consider myself fortunate to have met Shell engineers in a meeting.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Right on! Thanks for sharing!

@jimandnancymcoil 6 ай бұрын

I met Speed at a Carlisle seminar15 years ago, I believe He was working for Joe Gibbs? I asked a few questions wearing my AMSOIL hat & t-shirt? He seemed to not like me?

@richcombs4805 6 ай бұрын

@@jimandnancymcoil well, once in a while our attire can set the tone....don't feel bad, I got a "go-away" reception from a competitor at the turbo show once in Houston LOL....I was just standing there minding my own business looking at their booth, wearing my employer's emblem on my shirt 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@johndyc3047 6 ай бұрын

Would love to see a oil history video! Great information, keep em coming!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@christianluggert9052 6 ай бұрын

"Science over Speculation", this is why I'm watching this channel.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@vinniemorciglio4632 6 ай бұрын

A video about which manufacturers make the OEM oils for Automotive companies would be helpful as well.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

@dsmith2656 6 ай бұрын

Yes please, Motorcraft 5w30 vs Dexos etc

@darryladams519 6 ай бұрын

@@themotoroilgeekDiesel oil video please

@scottwhitcher265 6 ай бұрын

@vinniemorciglio4632 Realize that OEMs fill their equipment with "break-in oil". They often use a moly disulfide cam lubricant and likely other additives in larger quantities than one would want to maintain. They also may well use a different blend for maintenance after the first oil change or two.

@rickss69 3 ай бұрын

@@scottwhitcher265 Bullshit...none of them have ever used a "break-in" oil...ever.

@tonybrunetti 6 ай бұрын

Also want to see Amsoil but I love to see that chemistry as well

@OKHotrodder-cg5gu 3 ай бұрын

When I was younger, I put on different car shows in my area. When I was trying to get sponsors, Quaker State was the only big name willing to send me things. They sent hats, key chains, cases of different grade oils, and plenty of brochures, etc. Not that it changed my mind because I have always run QS in my '65 Mustang. 10w30 for over 30 yrs now. Around '98, I built a 347 stroked out 302. Still used the same oil. Today, the same old 347 25 years later. Starts every time. I have always talked good about QS to people.

@johnsakrekov3874 Ай бұрын

From my day rebuilding engines the only reason I use Pennzoil would be to non detergent to break it in. Castro GTX compare the Pennzoil at warm up cast of GTX held 10 almost 10 more pounds of pressure after warm up

@kyridgejumper 6 ай бұрын

Please keep up these great videos. You really put a different perspective out there for us and that is truly needed

@redironacres 6 ай бұрын

It would be really cool to see a video going over OEM diesel oils such as John Deere, AGCO, CNH, Kubota, CAT vs aftermarket like Rotella T4, T5, and T6, Delvac, and Delo. Would be nice to know what blends OEMs think work best in their equipment

@jefweb5043 6 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%

@rangerdalexp6221 6 ай бұрын

Don't forget about Delvac 1.

@buckaroobonsi555 6 ай бұрын

None of the OEM oils are made by those OEM's they are buying oil from SOPUS, Exxon Mobile, Warren Industries, Valvoline, Citgo, BP etc....

@redironacres 6 ай бұрын

@@buckaroobonsi555 I’m aware. They’re blended to the OEMs specks by those companies

@oneninerniner3427 6 ай бұрын

And the OEMs bid it out to the lowest bidder as well I bet.

@joelmacdonald6994 4 ай бұрын

I’d be comfortable using either, but I do use Platinum. I’ll keep using it. I believe in top notch oil, I use a group 4 oil in my motorcycle, and the longevity shows. I agree, it’s not the brand, it’s the chemistry.

@flywelder 4 күн бұрын

I've wondered for many years about the quality of Quaker state.! In my youth (50 yrs. ago) I would hear adult men referring Quaker state to Quaker sludge. I'm Happy you made this video! Yes, vote for history of motor oils/lubricants. Yes, vote for a video on Rislone products, especially their 'high mileage Engine treatment' product and 'Ring seal' Smoke repair, products. Luke, what can you tell us about why domestic passenger cars use oil filters with a by-pass valve and not a full -flow filter? Luke, might a contributing point be that the valve in the filter keeps the oil passings inside the engine, partially full of oil, to help fight dry starts? Would you make a video on this subject matter? Thank you!

@garyszewc3339 6 ай бұрын

Lake, I love all your videos. It's funny how many people blow off your advice, saying they don't trust random Internet dudes. They have mo clue of your knowledge and expertise. I just give up trying to teach people, and absorb as much as possible from your videos.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

LOL, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it.

@scottwhitcher265 6 ай бұрын

@garyszewc3339 It's the "random" part that loses credibility. One needs to read what they write then determine "does it pass the 'smell test"" and does it add up? Performance beats credentials every time. Having credentials, passing the "smell test" and "speaking the truth" are the marks of a true professional.

@Maverick09171 6 ай бұрын

Man. Can you just do an motor oil 101. GTL, group 3, pao, etc. what the differences are. How they’re made. What the pros and cons of each are. That’d be a great reference! Thanks!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

@ogdale 6 ай бұрын

Hey Lake Appreciate all you're work you put into making these vids! Always great info. I get excited when I see you have a new vid out. 😀 💯👍

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@albisasky766 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting and informative video. I wish that Pennzoil Platinum Plus would come in 0W-16 so that I can use it in my 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross.

@24hourgmtchannel64 6 ай бұрын

I also can't wait for your history of motor oil video from Lake Speed Jr. I am a huge fan of him and his cutting through all the fog of motor oil. I am a retired 58 year old IT geek with a deep car history who geeks on all this stuff. My new favorite thing is thowing up lab analysis numbers on brands in oil debate forums. I truly 150% agree with Lake's statement, brand means little, it's all in the oil chemistry but you'll always have tons of hard core brand only loyalist on oil debate forums that feel better spending $12 a quart when the lab results show near identical numbers with $6.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@r1ckgrimes97 6 ай бұрын

Would love the full history on motor oils!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@enordquist1 2 ай бұрын

Its awesome to select based on chemistry, but most of us done have the lab resources or subject matter expertise to make an educated decision. These videos certainly help with the expertise (Thanks!), but the chemistry is a mystery clouded in an enigma of marketing. Why I've been running Mobil 1 for 35 years - I've had good luck at tear down. Finally, History of Oils - Yes please!.

@jacksplague3050 6 ай бұрын

An educated populace facilitates innovation for advancement in industry. I work at a large car parts supplier, and you have helped me better serve my customers; however, I would be watching your videos even if I wasn't employed there. Impartial information on motor oil is very rare, and can be nearly impossible to find when factoring in brand bias exclusivity. I appreciate you putting in the leg work to actually spread this knowledge, and your effort in including all the major brands. I would love to see oil filter brand comparisons in the future.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, and your suggestion is noted.

@Redonammo 6 ай бұрын

Keep em coming Lake, just keeps getting better!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@nicholaspetre1 6 ай бұрын

Highly anticipating that video with your Porsche and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil analysis after 3K miles. Very interesting to hear your opinion about its performance and also your interpretation of its chemical and physical properties/coefficients after oil analysis. This is definitely a top content!

@D3AThCAl2DS 4 ай бұрын

As a mechanic who is cleaning up an isx15 who ran pennzoil say no it has a lot of plugged oil galleries

@nicholaspetre1 4 ай бұрын

@@D3AThCAl2DSI don’t know what isx15 is. Maybe it is not the oil that caused plugged oil galleries. What were the oil change intervals?! For how long the oil has been run? Maybe the galleries were plugged before the Pennzoil UP was put inside that engine? It is just that only a few users reported of sludge buildup while thousands of others did not have any problems. Maybe the problem in your case is in the usage, not the oil itself.

@codym7960 4 ай бұрын

@@D3AThCAl2DS i dont even think pennzoil makes a diesel oil ? if they do i dont think it marketed towards heavy duty trucks

@lieutenantdangle3128 4 ай бұрын

@@nicholaspetre1An ISX is a 15liter Cummins truck engine.

@lieutenantdangle3128 4 ай бұрын

@@D3AThCAl2DSPennzoil doesn’t make a HD diesel oil. I’m calling BS.

@Hotlineelec 2 ай бұрын

I would certainly love to see the history of pennzoil and Quakerstate. I live in Pennsylvania and can’t find much history on those companies. I do like the pennzoil ultra platinum and I feel more confident now finding this channel and seeing that the marketing on the bottle isn’t b.s.!! Thanks!!

@matthewmcbride1379 6 ай бұрын

YES please do an episode on HISTORY of oil. I would love to see the introduction of synthetics

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@stephenalbright6961 6 ай бұрын

I love your videos, I thought I knew a lot about motor oil but I'm learning even more watching your videos

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@TedSchoenling 6 ай бұрын

Yes I'd love to hear you talk about the history of Motor Oil

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@howardjlogan 2 ай бұрын

I would love to see a feature on the history of motor oil!!

@buzzedalldrink9131 5 ай бұрын

way back before youtube I used Quaker State in my first car It turned black in a few days! there’s my analysis from 45 years ago! That’s the last time I ever used it!

@riceburner4747 6 ай бұрын

Thank u for all u DO. I'd very much be interested in history. Oil is the heartbeat & I feel I never could learn too much. I'm 71, live in PA & used Quakerstate in my dad's car. As I went to automotive schools, used Kendall. And the last few decades, went from Castol & now use Toyota brand oil. I haven't used PA oil since 50yrs. I ALSO, am a stickler on gasoline & buy "top tier" gasoline ONLY. 👍

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@mlieser1230 6 ай бұрын

I'd be interested in a motor oil history video. I didn't know that Pennzoil and Quakerstate were both owned by Shell. Your oil analysis reports go into much more detail than Blackstone's. I like how your reports give an explanation of the purpose each additive performs.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Bbbbad724 5 ай бұрын

I ran Penzoil 10w40 in my FEs. Never lost a cam. And at 259,000 miles I tore it down and did even need to bore it! But I did.020 over for the forged pistons and the cork gaskets had a thick layer of sweat, but inside it was like new. Amazing. That old Penzoil 10w40 was really good!

@5hawks 5 ай бұрын

FEs and Pennzoil!

@clarencewong9254 5 ай бұрын

When you pulled out that FTIR, you blew my mind. Hats off. That's one expensive test to run. Also thanks to your videos, I'm switching to SP for my GDI engine. To shed some light on GTL. I was with Shell during the period it launched. So in the middle east, hydrocarbons wells are richer in gas to liquid ratios compared to wells at say America or off the south china seas. For years refinery in the middle east have flared off the excess gas as by product (they were too abundant to consume locally and too 'sour' to sell to Europe). With GTL, shell figured out a way to convert the by product to base oil generating revenue. The newly created raw material was then pushed globally to America and Asia. (Wells in both of these regions has cleaner gas (less sulphur) mostly sold as LNG to nations with stringent environment emissions limits on their energy (IE Europe /Japan) From memory circa 9yrs ago, shell's semi syn was made of BaseOil 4 whereas the Ultra Fully Syn range was from BaseOil 6 blend. Tonight, I still wonder if the GTL molecular structure is less stable compared to other higher base oil groups? Chemical wise a C10-C11 hydrocarbon bond strength would be similar once created regardless of the C3-C4 that made it. But personally from using GTL Vs Non-GTL oil, I noticed that GTL blend oxidises faster.

@themotoroilgeek 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I'll keep an eye on the oxidation levels in my used oil samples from these oils.

@johnmatthews7703 6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear that you will be looking at Amsoil eventually. Also would be curious if you took a look at Idemitsu, both US and Japanese formulas.

@averyalexander2303 6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Eneos and Ravenol are two other brands I'm curious about. One way Lake could really set his channel apart from most others is by making videos on foreign brands that aren't common here.

@scatpack4715 6 ай бұрын

@@averyalexander2303Are Ravenol oils available in the US?

@averyalexander2303 6 ай бұрын

@@scatpack4715 It's not readily available, but if someone wants it, it's available online. It's expensive, but so is Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, HPL, etc.

@mrtdiver 6 ай бұрын

I second your thoughts. Yes that Japanese Idemitsu oil looks really interesting. I'm thinking it's really good engine oil. If I remember correctly it was high in the additive package . maybe Molybdenum and Boron.

@johnmatthews7703 6 ай бұрын

We are a multiple Subaru family so intersted as Idimitsu manufactures the Subaru-branded oil. @@mrtdiver

@GlitterGoose 6 ай бұрын

history of motor oil has always fascinated me. maybe you can ever bring up ILSAC and API history too

@damarpo5467 6 ай бұрын

What a subject matter to explore! the last 25 yeas oils have gone through a major transformation, very interesting subject matter

@corywalker4078 6 ай бұрын

I would be delighted if you did a motor oil history piece focusing on the composition and additive packages that were used and how those packages have changed over time.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@capriracer351 6 ай бұрын

I drive past the former Quaker State corporate headquarters on my way to work ever day. Right up the road from there was the original Pennzoil refinery. I also drive past what used to be the Pennzoil research center on my way to work every day. When those companies were bought out by Shell, a HUGE amount of talent left the area when they shut everything down. I'm sure they make great oil, but I am having a hard time buying any of it since they left. Probably just being overly stubborn and bull headed, but I knew a lot of good people that lost good paying jobs and pretty much everything they owned in the aftermath. Some started over again, usually by moving out of the area. Many never recovered.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that insight.

@Nellis202 6 ай бұрын

Just go with Valvoline ! An independent American owned company out of Ashland Tennessee. Their advanced synthetic offers great protection and is priced competitively. Their Extended protection is excellent, comparable to Pennzoil Ultra and costs less.

@terrywolfe3344 6 ай бұрын

I concur. I live in Oil City. We are proud of our contribution to the oil industry. Little do most people know the world's first oil was drilled up the road in Titusville, Pa in 1859

@capriracer351 6 ай бұрын

@@terrywolfe3344 absolutely. We were once the center of the world and most people in the modern day don't even realize it.

@somaday2595 6 ай бұрын

@@Nellis202 Aramco bought Valvoline in 2022. Before that, it had been independent following a spinoff from Ashland, (at one time in Ashland, KY). Its headquarters is now in Lexington, KY.

@jessegreenwood1956 6 ай бұрын

Yes! A history of motor oil would be fantastic! Great video!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@johndeere1951a Ай бұрын

Watching all of Lake's oily videos give me a warm oily feeling that the internal combustion engine will survive for my last 25 years on Earth. Yes please Lake, explore the History of Oil. Ive been a student of Oilology since the Sixties with my first VW and lawn mower, and pioneering days of the automobile. Go for it. Try not to leave out Castor Bean oil. I started with that road racing 2-Stroke motorcycles - I but quickly switched to synthetic Yamalube because of bean oul deposits and sticking piston rings. Love your channel 💦🛢️👍✌️

@howardkaye6104 3 ай бұрын

Hi, I just started watching your videos and I find them very informing. Thank you!

@soldierbyname 6 ай бұрын

Yes history please!!!!!!! Lubrizol plants in niagara falls Canada. Lots of the valvoline I ran came from there. Was interesting to drive through the plant. When they blended oil was usually with 50lbs bags of raw additives into a vat. Would mix overnight then would get tested and adjusted. There was a small window of variance between batches.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Awesome! The original batches of Joe Gibbs oil was made at the LuCan plant... Noted on the history video.

@mattf2535 6 ай бұрын

I think oil enthusiast has always wondered what IS the difference between Platinum and QSFS. Thanks, Lake!!!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@02autogt 3 ай бұрын

Amsoil ALWAYS tests the best and Pennzoil is ALWAYS a close second... Had a 2011 Mustang GT that was drag raced regularly and used Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30. Car had over 225,000 miles on it when i got rid of it... Engine had never been opened up...

@niveknospmoht8743 3 ай бұрын

Back in the late 60s early 70s my dad was adamant about using penzoil with STP as an additive. Got to the point where we had to pull the engine apart and the whole upper valve train was a sludgy mess of a jello mold. I've never used either oil or additive since. It's always been Valvoline.. and my engines have always been spotless internally. Seeing a history of oil would be awesome as how it may relate to this issue. I know some of it relates to engine temp and detergents.

@rtaggs8178 6 ай бұрын

Use Pennzoil Platinum 10w 30 in a 2002 Buick Lesabre Custom with a 3.8 liter engine. It had a long life with AC Delco 10w 30. I continued to use the Mobil for a few changes and it ate it up. With the Pennzoil Platinum I hardly have to top it off every two weeks, unlike the Mobil or Quaker Ultimate I was using.

@oveidasinclair982 5 ай бұрын

My 07 Toyota Camry is a known oil eater, Toyota used low tension rings on the pistons from 2006 to 2009. I purchased this car in March 2023 with 61,100 verified miles on the vehicle (real good CarFax report). When I change oil it takes about 4.8 quarts to get to the fill line on the dip stick and around 2200 miles I have to pour the rest of the oil left in the 5qt jug to get it back to the fill line. I did 3 oil changes on it so far (little over 10,000 I put on it over the last year), all three change sequences were identical. I use 5w-20, the oil pass through over the rings is minimal.

@JasPlun 5 ай бұрын

It is sad the previous owner did not take part in the program Toyota had they could have had the ring issue fixed for free at Toyota. Thing is as time goes by it will get worse with a high risk of clogging up your Cat converters. It would be wise to have the rings changed. Wekll worth the money that engine with the new rings is a bullet proof engine that will easily last 300k miles if maintained. Do not wait too long because if you do the damage will get worse so get it in for repair before you have to rebuild that engine.@@oveidasinclair982

@ShivaShakur 4 ай бұрын

@@oveidasinclair982 What oil are you using? 5w20 what brand & type?

@oveidasinclair982 4 ай бұрын

@@ShivaShakur Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20

@06wrxRAR 4 ай бұрын

@@oveidasinclair982 previous 5w-30 oil was mobil 1 right?

@ChewyVangPYSH 6 ай бұрын

Full Synthetic Quaker State are in all my vehicles… Budget friendly and does the same magic as Mobil.1, Royal Purple, Vavoline ect…… Don’t pay for a sticker on an oil bottle people… SuperTech 20,000 miles is superb too

@practicaldriver 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this comparison, Lake! If ya'lls want Quaker State GTL base oil... check out QS 5W40, exact same as Pennzoil 5w40.

@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 ай бұрын

Amsoil Vs Redline vs Royal Purple would be a sweet Video Lake 8:30 @The Motor Oil Geek

@reedsilvesan2197 3 ай бұрын

Very educational channel, thanks. Modern oil is so far beyond what we had years ago. Case in point. I recently put new valve cover gaskets on my 1975 dodge 318 i rebuild a few years ago. Cork gaskets dont last. What i could not believe is I found absolutely zero carbon deposits on the valve train. I ran my finger across several places, an nothing. I was sure surprised.

@Cfchild1 6 ай бұрын

I've been using the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic for several years now instead of the Motorcraft brand for my Ford vehicle. Seems like my vehicle consumes less oil between changes with the Pennzoil. I look forward to seeing your evaluation results for your Porsche using the Pennzoil.

@user-oy4qp9pq6i 6 ай бұрын

When I got my 2001 F450, Pennzoil made the only 5w20 synthetic I could buy on the open market. Others later became available. I believe Honda used the same oil.

@jeremystory6981 6 ай бұрын

These videos have taught me more 2 hours About all oil,,,,,,, Sure helps you connect the gaps,,,, Thanks a lot means a lot of people that work and build on engines

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.

@brainyj13 3 ай бұрын

recently switched from mobil 1 to Pennzoil platinum , i can say may sound silly but the pennzoil is the best smelling oil ive came across other than race gas washed vr1

@chasecapehart 6 ай бұрын

Yes sir I would love more history and content

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@wesmullennix3495 6 ай бұрын

super interested

@YouTubeviolatesmy1stamendment 6 ай бұрын

Everything all the time yes

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@ronh9384 6 ай бұрын

Yes, please do a video on the history of motor oil.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@TVR-jc5uf 6 ай бұрын

Professor Speed, a lecture on the history of motor oil would be nice. Can we also have a lecture on how oil is made/refined? What are the differences between conventional and synthetic base stocks and what are the different subgroups (PAO vs Ester etc.) and benefits and/or drawbacks of each. A separate lecture on how to walk into the parts store and pick an appropriate oil would also be nice. Clarification on API, Dexos and other 'word salad' certifications would be interesting. I am suspect of manufacturer recommendations regarding viscosity/additives as they may be biased towards gentle street use (I suspect many viewers of this channel are a bit more enthusiastic in their motoring activities) as well as emissions so that the cars can pass EPA testing, but maybe at the expense of wear and durability. Thanks for the great content...you are the Neil deGrasse of tribology/lubrication. Thanks for dumbing down some complex stuff so us punters can understand a bit more.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Those are great ideas.

@jabomiles6947 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely would like a video on the history of oil.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@user-mk7qb4kf5p 6 ай бұрын

Really enjoy your sharing of your knowledge and science based oil analysis while explaining it in simple terms to those of us with a limited chemistry back ground. I have really learned allot from your explanation as and testing. Please provide a video on the history of oil when you have the opportunity. The education you provide to us is greatly appreciated and gives me a knowledge of lubrication technology that I wasn’t aware of. Funny thing, I’ve worked for Marathon, BP, Valero’s and Exxon Mobile as a Mechanical Engineer for years , never dabbled in the Chemistry of how the product were made. very interesting….Keep up the Great Videos!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the kind words. Noted on the history video.

@The1jonnyz 6 ай бұрын

First off, I am loving your videos Lake. They are very well done and packed with great info! I am wondering if one day you can do a video on the best way to clean the gunk out of a "new" old car with a really dirty engine? Is it best to flush it with an engine flush, keep changing with synthetic, etc? Thanks and keep the videos coming!

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

@stevehenderson2571 4 ай бұрын

Ok you got me. Having been a propulsion mgr in my previous life, I’ve always been big on maintenance. We’ll be watching.

@themotoroilgeek 4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@dadgarage7966 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Shell and Shell brand lubricants are really good overall. As well, Shell makes the Motomaster brand for Canadian Tire.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@andrewjohn7782 6 ай бұрын

YES, absolutely! Been wanting this since John Kelly did the History of ATF.

@themotoroilgeek 6 ай бұрын

Noted!

@rich1953 4 ай бұрын

As a user of multiple methods of FTIR (Fourier Transform Infra-Red Spectrometer for 25 years) the thickness of the sample is important and if you look at the "A" scale which represents the amount of absorption at a specific wavelength measured by the detector (CM-!) the absorption scale differs between the two samples and this difference is the result of sample thickness and not composition, the upper sample is thicker thus slightly saturated. My experience say's there is no visible difference. Inorganic material additives most likely won't show up in FTIR scans. Also the 2000 to 500 CM-1 range is the most important in defining the materials.

@TheHonestPeanut 4 ай бұрын

I use royal purple on all my vehicles. Tried it on a dodge intrepid with a spun bearing. It quieted down to barely an occasional tick and kept running for almost a year until I sold it for a parts car. Customer for life.