Fallout has made its name as a post-nuclear game set in the decades after a nuclear war, but what about all the chaotic years before then, what would a Fallout game set at the beginning of the apocalypse look like?
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@The-Enclave Жыл бұрын
Semi open world which can be found in Metro Exodus or Dead Island would work best with this concept. Best of both worlds.
@Asshat1776 Жыл бұрын
Dying light does it better then dead island
@NitroDrifter8864 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking along the same lines Multiple locations set over a long period of time and while you're in those locations you are able to explore freely, Scavenging supplies that could help boost your base and allies, but you have a priority objective to secure a very specific resource or piece of technology
@arodalexander3883 Жыл бұрын
Who is Sgt Orlando Garrett in fallout 76
@ajs6856 Жыл бұрын
@@Asshat1776 dead rising does it better than both.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Жыл бұрын
Or even an Xcom like FPS light RPG set entirely in the first and third person... You go from a privte in the first act fighting in Alaska till you level up to sargent over a corse of branching missions like Ace Combat and helping around the base... to aback home as an intermission helping around the naborhood till the bombs drop and you are thrust back into milltary life in Act 2 with your spouse and 2 kids staying home. Then you have to rescue them then on to the second intermission where you time jump with each mission till 5 years later when you realize this is home now and act 3 it's 10 years since the game's plot started and in your settlement a divide has developed between people who want to stop being US milltary and those that still do.
@sebastianb.3754 Жыл бұрын
Having the protagonist be a member of the national guard, sent out on missions into the wasteland would be great for open world. They send you out, and its up to you how much you explore and interact with the world. You head back to hq, a couple months pass and they send you out again. Then you are able to see your effect on the world
@knightcaptaingallows850 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the protagonists would be a marine, since the protagonist would fight in china, I also think it would be cool to see more stuff for the marines since we don't really see much of them.
@giovannicervantes2053 Жыл бұрын
@@knightcaptaingallows850 could also be a split protagonist idea where 2 soldiers one more affected by the war becomes a raider lord or something while the other is trying to clean up after and chase them down
@caspianhorlick452911 ай бұрын
@@giovannicervantes2053 I think the best way to work that would be the protagonist is a marine and the game tracks them fighting in China, with a flashback to an old buddy left behind who ends up joining the National Guard. Part of the emotional beats of the story could be seeing the friend change, an emotional anchor for experiencing the hellish chaos unleashed by the nuclear bombs.
@dred2997 Жыл бұрын
This is why I like Raul so much. He gives us a little insight what life was like trying to survive right after doomsday. It's rare that we hear about prewar stuff from a firsthand account and I always enjoy when we get the chance to.
@neves5083 Жыл бұрын
this is one of the things I always wanted about Fallout, not only because I always wanted to see the world before the end, see Boston, Washington and other cities full of life, but also because for me at least, Fallout doesn't give a good idea of what it was like to live in the last few days we can follow several stories about how things went wrong, of course, but they don't show much seriousness and concern in the big picture, thinking about the blackouts, the riots, unemployment and etc... we know that all this existed but it doesn't stick much in your head when you imagine pre-war life, I think a lot more about nuclear cars :p This is why I like the video about the what if the war never happened because it makes us think more about the crisis.
@mikoto7693 Жыл бұрын
That was the most disappointing part of Fallout 4 for me. I wanted more time in the old world. Just a day would have been enough and it could have been optional for impatient players. But I’d have gladly paid for a DLC set in the old world before the bombs dropped. The shining cities, nuclear powered cars, boots and planes. The abuse of the government, military and corporations. All of it. I’d be less interested in just after the bombs but it would probably be fun to play.
@someguy9293 Жыл бұрын
Love to know more about the pre-war World. I know it's heavily based off of the 1950's and early 1960's. But that doesn't explain what life was actually like. What was it like for the average American? Was it all sunshine and rainbows? Or a darker reality with propaganda and fear of the unknown?
@cryingweevil4345 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a very good novel or comic that could tie nicely into the universe. Idk about a game, though, since Fallout as a linear story game is too much of a departure from the post nuclear rpg we know and love and god knows bethesda can really only make one thing at a time. A novel provides a lot of freedom from the gamey aspects (like an open world, tanky pc, ect.) and since its a novel you can tell stories apartment from the games. Also, if we’re talking about secondary media we can establish main characters with rich and fleshed out personalities. If it’s a novel you could really play up the horror factor in ways only literature can by describing events, creatures and characters just enough so that a fair bit is up to the imagination rather than a buggy bethesda engine and limited sfx budgets. Another pro is you can emotionally describe events, for example, the horror of a nuclear mushroom, the exhaustion of running into a snowy forest with hunters behind you or even the grief of losing a loved one. You’d really only be limited by how good of a writer you get/are.
@Commrade-DOGE Жыл бұрын
I think a fallout themed wolfenstein TNO kinda?
@zackkilgore528 Жыл бұрын
Why not have the opening missions be linear but as things become increasingly Chaotic the game transitions into a more traditional open world rpg?
@ramblingrenegade6346 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the idea reminds me a lot of the story of the Novosibirsk Metro in the Two Colonels DLC. Experiencing survival after the war, sometimes even making progress, only then to watch it all inevitably fall apart in a second apocalypse. Honestly one of the best stories I've ever had the pleasure to experience
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
Yes, that would have to be my favourite part of any of Metro game... Sam's Story is certainly close though.
@justsomeguy2595 Жыл бұрын
I figured that in the end of the game, you would end up in a locked down bunker. A situation similar to Vault 111, there would be a food shortage and the military personnel would turn on each other as well as raiders and creatures breaking in to the bunker as well as radiation levels increasing in the bunker due to the constant break ins or a simple broken ventilation unit. More or less, a scenario that is a mix between Vault 111, Hidden Valley bunker, and the Whitespring Bunker.
@RadioactiveRabbit Жыл бұрын
I would play this game. A linear fallout game sounds a bit like metro. Would you write fanfiction? I'd read it. Your stories are great.
@voicetest6019 Жыл бұрын
Why not take a longer view of it? Instead of having just a human who dies; have them ghoulify. Then it becomes a choice of "Do I live a life now, or wait for it to get better at the risk of going feral?"
@creatorsfreedom6734 Жыл бұрын
open a bar at megaton
@TOBAPNW_ Жыл бұрын
@@creatorsfreedom6734 I don't mean to be that guy but he didn't own the pub. That was Moriarty. I think gob might have been a slave? Either way he treated him like shit 😂
@creatorsfreedom6734 Жыл бұрын
@@TOBAPNW_ Lawl
@lejogamer6274 Жыл бұрын
@@TOBAPNW_ if you stealth kill moriarty then after a bit gob will take over the bar and run it and I think he mentions it and gets a bit self confidence
@TOBAPNW_ Жыл бұрын
@@lejogamer6274 doing this first thing next run
@knightspearhead5718 Жыл бұрын
I mean the fallout universe was pretty terrible even before the Great war its pretty easy too imagine how it got even worse with raiders and such. Edit: the only thing i dont understand is how the Enclave and Brotherhood(possibly the gunners too) ended up being the only 2 military factions. I would think there would be more.
@Hunkie904 Жыл бұрын
The US government flew from the country prior to the war and set their HQ on the oil rig in west and the rest set out in bunkers across the country i believe, BoS was formed from ex us soldiers and they also set out in a bunker. Besides them theres really no any group like them in terms of age of establishment and it is strange. USA was a big militarised country, well probably the chaos was so large that people really couldn't form any form of faction due to chaos or the devs really didn't thought about it.
@muxijim6442 Жыл бұрын
Most of the military where stationed in Alaska and China??
@csmrookie9600 Жыл бұрын
There’s room for more since we only cover really the west coast and east coast, but nothing in the Midwest and so on.
@splint8618 Жыл бұрын
Most of the military seems to have been absorbed by one or the other, at least if we assume the comms satellite stuff used in 76 was used elsewhere, assuming they didn't desert/'retire' from being government-owned soldiers, such as the ones who join Foundation during the Wastelander's questline. If I were to hazard a guess, there's likely many groups descended from them or other government services that we simply haven't seen or don't think about. - The Responders almost certainly had a few in their ranks (they had at least one, assuming Hank Madigan was military pre-war,) and organizations like the MInutemen and Desert Rangers probably had a component of National Guard or former Army/Marines in their founding members. - Many would have joined the Brotherhood or got scooped up by the Enclave. - Organizations such as the Gunners, Talon Company, and Hellcats are likely at least as entities descended from old military units. It's often said that the only difference between a soldier and mercenary is the number of zeroes in their paycheck, so it's highly likely a large proportion of them simply formed their units into de facto mercenary outfits and just kept going as they had or joined up with such organizations. - The bulk likely just... Deserted. Went home, became raiders or otherwise just otherwise got on with thier lives assuming they survived the war. Sure, some still had jobs to do, but even so once it was done, that'd be it. As an example there was likely a sizable number of sailors and marines on Mt. Desert Island who likely just integrated into the Harborman population since there wasn't any point in upkeeping a facility and submarine they no longer had the means to upkeep.
@knightspearhead5718 Жыл бұрын
@@splint8618 Talon and Hellcats feel more like organized raiders. Hellcats are a possibility though considering how close in the timeline 76 is.
@loltank5315 Жыл бұрын
This is what I'm hoping the TV show will be about. The inevitability of the way the world will go allows for a ton of creative freedom
@RestitutorEuropa Жыл бұрын
I wish fallout 4’s intro had you experience pre war life for a lot longer. They could’ve even created a few interesting quests in the pre war world that you could do that will contribute to the story even after the war so that it’s not a useless intro.
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to spend any longer in Fallout 4's over-stylized world.
@notstardream7 ай бұрын
it would be cool if it was a goodsprings/riverwood fallout intro, and maybe some quests there can give you stuff in the post-war world.maybe able to go back eventually in the memory den to do more stuff
@Twister980 Жыл бұрын
YES. I actually had an idea for a Final Days type deal; where you're a Detective Investigating either a Chinese Conspiracy, or a murder. Honestly though, the idea was too much like Call of Duty where I thought about you switching characters. Like to a family member or something, after the nukes go off.
@RestitutorEuropa Жыл бұрын
I had the same exact idea as the first sentence your comment. This is actually what I think should’ve happened in the fallout 4 into too so that you could explore the pre-war world for a lot longer. And the quests you would have to do would keep it interesting and could even carry over into the post war world so that the intro isn’t useless.
@cmdrclassified Жыл бұрын
I have thousands of hours in the Fallout series, except for Fallout 76. Never played it, and don't intend to. Still keep up on the news and the lore, as I find it all quite interesting. I like your style. It's always fascinating to think "What if...", of a Universe we are all very fond of. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject, and keep up the great work. o7
@knightspearhead5718 Жыл бұрын
Will never understand the hatred for 76.
@barkbuck5521 Жыл бұрын
@@knightspearhead5718 franchise is an open rpg for over a decade, franchise then has an mmo with very flashy mobile game-equse features riddled with bugs out the ass upon release given to the fans. The hatred comes from being decked over the head with a broken product that isn't in line with what people enjoy fallout for. And yes, I've played the game within the past few months, it's a console sized mobile game.
@NoahGooder Жыл бұрын
i bought 76 so i could datamine its offline content in my spare time
@lazarussolomon3541 Жыл бұрын
5:33 I always wondered about that when playing fallout 3 and especially 4. Maybe its just cause I'm from the American south, but when I had to go up to DC in the late winter I was freezing my ass off while there. I would like to see something like that implemented
@NoahGooder Жыл бұрын
same expecially since here in the south snow is so rare that when it does happen its almost like a biblical event
@lazarussolomon3541 Жыл бұрын
@@NoahGooder except for our grandparents memories am I right. "I walked in 3 miles in the snow to get to school boy!
@NoahGooder Жыл бұрын
@@lazarussolomon3541 yep, I am 26 and here in lousiana I think I have only seen snow twice. And out of those 2 times only 1 was heavy enough to play with. What bugs me is I have parents who came from the north and they insist on opening the doors and windows whenever it seems like a "good day" or "starts getting chilly"
@teatime18486 ай бұрын
This would actually be interesting start to fallout: Alaska that you talked about. Like what if it starts with this, and you get to make a choice, then you move on to the future of Alaska, and the game actually starts. Treat this part as a tutorial then show what the choice “the soldier” made and how it affected the world. Like maybe you blew up a reactor in the enclave base. Then that faction is much weaker or smth. Idk just a thought
@authentic229.14 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see prewar Necropolis, Los Angeles and Washington. But when it comes to experiencing the eventd, we actually don't need a game. We currently go through events similar to prewar fallout. If you are not convinced yet, just wait a few more months/years.
@sski Жыл бұрын
Really. There's already 'raiders' there. Prices are through the roof as well. Good call.
@SavathunSussyImpostor Жыл бұрын
Patrolling Prewar America almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@AlexanderTheFarmer Жыл бұрын
Fallout is "predicting" what will happen to the world in the next decades.
@AlexanderTheFarmer Жыл бұрын
@@sski We all know who the "raiders" are in the West.
@sski Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTheFarmer Ja, really. The 'resource wars', 'war with China' (at this point it's Russia, China, Iran... but I digress), a 'mysterious plague', pharma companies turning people into mutants cough-cough. When do we get to the nuke wasteland part?
@JTL177610 ай бұрын
Opening similar to fallout 4 wake up daily tasks with your family, but TV announces the Alaskan Invasion. Part 1, Joining the army. Part 2, the Loss of Anchorage. Part 3, a series of constant tactical Retreats fire fight to running. Part 4, Operation Anchorage. Part 5 your home enjoying pre war for 1 in game week. Before nukes fall.
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 Жыл бұрын
I know there are plenty of Mods that cover something like this. But it would be cool to have something Official.
@mc.yomyom8481 Жыл бұрын
can you please name a few ?
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember it, Alchestbreach played one a few years ago and that’s the only one I know, but there’s has to be more like it
@DuneRunnerEnterprises Жыл бұрын
@@mc.yomyom8481 Look fo Fallout 4 mods. It's kinda there 8))
@ximthedespot4673 Жыл бұрын
Rather than just playing as a solider, perhaps allowing the player to choose their path, such as a civilian, politician or criminal. It would be cool if Fallout returned to the RPG roots that Bethesda, and Interplay towards the end, has abandoned more and more with each entry.
@swifter46ter Жыл бұрын
I thought extensively about this idea just this last week. I'd love a game following the days before the end. Perhaps a call of duty style game or an open world GTA/Cyberpunk style game with separate areas with Alaska and other conflicts..
@theconscript341 Жыл бұрын
Love you're stuff mate, keep it up!
@ChrissieBear Жыл бұрын
Not telling us much about the pre-war world was the point in the original games. A big theme of OG Fallout was that the old world was forgotten, barely a memory, and the wasteland had to forge its own history and identity, because the old world destroyed itself. A common criticism of Fallout 4's story is that it showed the pre-war at all.
@SammyO1 Жыл бұрын
I see I'm not the only one who has been wondering about how fallout like that would look like
@winstoncrew7183 Жыл бұрын
This sounds fantastic, would be a hell of a come back from the last release lol. The last little bit there about an open world not working because you wouldn’t be able to take your time. That made me think of one with strict time events. You go off and do X while Y and Z happen without you and still have repercussions on the overall play. Especially when you consider everything falling apart, now you would really have to make sure you are doing the most important task or whatever. Regardless this was an awesome idea sir I quite enjoyed this video! Thank you
@Bothrops_Asper_89 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a version of the FO4 settlement system, but implemented on a scale where it impacted the story. Oh, you've built a thriving community? Here comes the tough times. Having to deal with who you're letting in and who don't. Your settlement getting raided by desperate survivors or newly-born gangs of raiders, maybe even rogue military units. Something that is actually important and less of a "Lemme build a base to crash and craft stuff".
@chevrolet-poitiers9507 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, In Fallout 4 you CAN build a settlement that rivals Diamond City or Bunker Hill but it has no importance in the story. There is no interaction between major settlements in the game, I’d love to have seen a bit of competition between Diamond City and one of my settlements.
@theenigmaencoder92 Жыл бұрын
"one and only purpose would be to show a world absolutely devoid of Hope" I'm not sure that works or even if it would be a good ending. Fallout, for a series of games set after a nuclear holocaust in the blasted, irradiated ruins of the U.S., infested with monsters and raiders and mutants and worse, it takes a surprisingly optimistic view of human nature and people's ability to stick together and make things better, especially taking the games canon endings into account. Mankind struggles and despairs, but in the end, there is always hope that they will make something out of it.
@Charliemunk8704 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are outstanding! I do have a few ideas for possible future vids. What if Liberty Prime had been successfully built at the same time power armor came out during the great war? What if Vault tech had survived the bombs? And what if more vaults had been built than the original number and weren't used in any experiments?
@30fims Жыл бұрын
You do not get enough views, great voice better editing, content. Love it man
@rose4100 Жыл бұрын
I think starting as a Soldier is too predicable. Maybe being one of the people who didn't make it to the Vault in time and being locked outside would be more interesting. Since you start with typical civilian skills, you have to learn actual survival skills as you go (level). If you started as a soldier you would already have all this knowledge, on top of the military equipment that would be issued to you, which gives you a huge leg up compared to the average person. If you really want to go this military route, have the military conscript you when the situation becomes absolutely dire.
@Guilherme-ev1wx Жыл бұрын
You could be a soldier on leave WITHOUT equipment preferably a US marine, it works that way since he can side with the military or the survivors
@jakegraham1410 Жыл бұрын
I get it this would be a good idea and it seems fun but I feel like it wouldn’t play like fallout, like maybe a dlc to fallout 76 would be then a great DLC prolly the best since the capitol city wouldn’t be flooded and people might actually be living there but it shouldn’t be a full game.
@Nahmona_Hooves Жыл бұрын
I feel visual novel could work: Exploring the diferent perspective of varios part of society, maybe the Pov of a Soldier, a Citizen, maybe the view of a child or a family; One I think could be interesting would be the view of a enemy force, a soldier who got trapped or was kidnapped and now has to survive on enemy territory.
@FecklessandKekless11 ай бұрын
Nothing would be more surreal than walking over decaying corpses in the streets, shadows blasted onto every wall, and instead of friendly walled communities to rest in and resupply, there are simply "safe-ish" spots that several other possessionless refugees of the old world crowd in agony. Instead of factions, there could be random mercenary groups that stuck together through the war, very sparsely around the world. They can team-up to fight for a shared goal, but that doesn't stop them from facing off when times are desperate and survival forces them against eachother. All of this would work to kill the typical fallout experience, where after a few hours the wasteland hardly seems like a threat. You have to give players enough to feel like something matters in the world, but at the same time keeping everything constantly changing, getting worse, and leaving you hopeless and counting every bullet for most of the playthrough (still giving ways for people that just want to power-trip to do what they want, but more like gambling in the early games where anyone who likes the struggle can just ignore it)
@somethingsomething6790 Жыл бұрын
I Imagine that the next fallout game will take place in New York, and each parts of the map will be just as big as fallout 76, and I’m talking about each district, I’m not talking about the entire map. Each area of the map will have a loading screen, separating the different areas so we can have more exploration. Not only the mass will be larger, it will also help with unloading and loading huge parts of a map with ease
@somethingsomething6790 Жыл бұрын
And I imagine each day will actually add more and more mutations to the animals. Each day, week, month, and every year basically starts making areas covered in animals more dangerous overtime, some people will gain mutations that benefit and or weaken them.
@oseandepartmentofnarcotics Жыл бұрын
this is very similar to a movie named "threads" which is pure hell on earth of what would happen immediately after a nuclear war and the years after. Its brutal and holds nothing back
@CplBurdenR Жыл бұрын
To say I "love" threads would be weird, but it has a special place in my heart. Its so grim and terrible. There is nothing else like it.
@kiesarisunny13 Жыл бұрын
I’d honestly love this, maybe a game when your at some job and see a lot of people and around the time things start going down hill things get harder and the people you meet become different or don’t even show up and it ends just after the war starts
@enocescalona Жыл бұрын
hell yeah! dude i lobe your content! glad to see you upload again
@theunluckyidiot Жыл бұрын
i love your videos man they’re always so captivating
@TheArachKing Жыл бұрын
To be fair, shorter games focussed on the story and the setting over RPG elements would really be an amazing way to showcase the landscape. You could explore so much, and quickly too as a lot of assets could easily be pick and place, with no need for legendaries, settlement building, anything like that. Even gun mods could be taken off for this kind of thing to give you a truly authentic experience
@mrnotverypc7549 Жыл бұрын
Yout channel is the best fallout channel that exist
@Americandragonrider333. Жыл бұрын
The last days of the Fallout world. That would be cool.
@Daltastar2012 Жыл бұрын
I really wish that the pre fallout mod for hoi4 never got canceled 😞
@bfmtrooper5454 Жыл бұрын
The most difficult part of this would be making decisions feel worth it. We know what the world is like 200 years later so the actions we take may feel useless and futile. The way to rectify is to probably slowly making nation building move to a local/state level oppose to a national one. Trying to hold together what remains of humanity in whatever town or city the game wod be based in. Its why I think DC isn't the best setting, we've seen what Washington becomes in fallout 3 and so any actions we take may feel completely useless. Of course, maybe that's a good thing, maybe that'll add to the game, every decision we make, it's useless, we cannot save what is already lost. So, who knows.
@paulraines9635 Жыл бұрын
A game about the BoS origins would be great. It'd be more linear, but still a unique take.
@socialaccount0000 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be great if we had a fallout FPS/action survival game. More of a focus on a character driven story and less of an open world RPG type of story. As much as I like Fallout, the fact that the player (besides F4) doesn't have any character outside of what you give them does limit certain literary options. I think it would be interesting if we got a Fallout game in the same formula as Metro Exodus. Yes, there is an open world but more multiple, smaller open world maps instead of one vast map, you can make choices and there are multiple endings but nothing too drastic. As Omega said, a linear story with some branches but not a full on RPG like Fallout normally is. Not to mention, with the bombs dropping fairly recently, Metro Exodus would be a perfect example of how you could have survival mechanics without them getting in the way of the game. You could collect gas mask filters, food and water for the military/survivors, etc and these resources could unlock more content back at the base camp such as idk cosmetic choices, currency for new weapons or supplies, etc.
@FumiTheSillyGirl Жыл бұрын
>Final Days OUR SONG OF HOPE SHE DANCES ON THE WIND
@thenotsodemocraticrepublic7731 Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, I feel like a Telltale style chose your own adventure format could work for this concept considering the story and decision-making seem to be the main focus rather than the gameplay.
@CaptainBardiel Жыл бұрын
Watch "When the Wind Blows", "The Day After" and "Threads"
@aboutwhat19302 ай бұрын
Set it in Chicago, perhaps. Make it somewhat linear to start, but really more an experience like New Vegas. You're dealing with pre-war factions-- the Enclave (who won't even talk to you), local Government (who'll collapse or overthrown), the Military (turn into a brutal junta or collapse), the Church (turn into a theocracy), and many other local organizations (a college, militia, various charities, seedy businesses like government contractors & strip clubs) and disorganizations (looters, raiders, scavengers, merchants, and survivalists). And yeah, at least early on, very few "natural" threats-- just some wildlife (brown bears, black bears, moose, feral dogs, escaped zoo animals) and a whole lot of ghouls (mostly ferals & marked men, but also some "saner" ghouls). Soon after you see various recent radiological evolutions (bloatflies, mole rats, radroaches, giant scorpions, geckos, giant ants, etc) and then some pretty scary ones (Centaurs, gulpers, and many other horrors too wild to ever survive their wasteland) before finally evolving to the worst of the worst by 2080 (vicious yao guai, radstags, perhaps Enclave-bred deathclaws, etc). As for tone, every faction must fail in some pretty big ways. Only the Enclave will definitely survive. The Church is likely to make it (requiring active and repeated sabotage to actually kill, generally being a kingmaker or seizing power to run a theocracy). The Military might become a brutal junta but those days are also numbered (lacking the manpower & resources to do much more than barely survive the nuclear winter). The Local Government will either be overthrown (by the Military, National Guard, Police, or its citizens) or collapse on its own (once food, medicine, ammo, or manpower is depleted--well before the end of the nuclear winter). Regardless, the gangs, raiders, tribals, various cultists, etc will takeover at least for a while.
@river9548 Жыл бұрын
Now that would indeed be grand, but I'm affraid bethesda isn't the studio for such a demoralizing and terrible experience (they seem to be more into the 'jolly good show !' kinda mood) Another one I'd be very curious to see but which lacks directions and so could end up quite bad would be a Fallout set in Europe which would make for a brand new experience as the survivability in this part of the world would be estranged by the lack of Vault-Tec, Fev, BoS and many of the American Fallout items.
@arizonaranger4454 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of fallout London which looks just amazing.
@river9548 Жыл бұрын
@@arizonaranger4454 Exactly ! They really had the good idea for it.
@wesleyharrison4012 Жыл бұрын
I feel taking place in New York as the bombs fell on a vertibird the shockwave knocks your vertibird into a building and it could start from their trying to traverse a collapsing city
@alpha6617 Жыл бұрын
Omega, buddy please make a video where the minutemen rebuild and conquer the commonwealth and possibly expand to Appalachia or the Capital wasteland
@danielsancarter Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a game/mod in the style of this war of mine for fallout
@JonatasAdoM Жыл бұрын
I last days and thought last days of the wasteland. The Apocalypse during the post Apocalypse. Say the days are numbered and there's nothing you can do, only live them.
@adeptuscustode115 Жыл бұрын
Thank you omega hope your feelings well
@VINTAGE1959 Жыл бұрын
Have this set in Colorado, would be awesome to see CO Springs, Denver, Cheyenne Mountain, Boulder Dom, ect. Could have seasonal weather, add the snow element.
@CPorter Жыл бұрын
I gotta say this. This isn't a rant, it's something that I feel everyone needs to read about this. It Could be the first fallout game to make actual usage of the Civil Defense faction. Something that utterly baffles me to no end why literally no one (apart from me) talks about Civil Defense in the fallout universe. We see it in posters strewn across the buildings in The Capitol Wasteland, Mojave Desert, and Commonwealth, it's main governmental forces of trying to keep a hold on the world is in Appalachia--although blatanly ignored to just say "the U.S. Government made it" because that's technically correct. It's been featured in the trailer of Fallout 2, in which they basically cut up an ACTUAL Civil Defense PSA film and upscale the graphics and re-narrate. Yes people will say "The NCRA was created a day or two before the bombs fell, so it is Civil Defense" but really this comes from people's lack of understanding as to what Civil Defense was here in America. It had elements of Vault-Tec, such as instilling a nation wide project to build fallout shelters to survive the aftermath of an attack; it has the regulation, overall ability to achieve a goal and protection of it's people that the US Military had, It's drive to be entirely for the protection of Humanity in any disaster scenario whether it be nuclear or not that First Responders have, and so much more. No, it wasn't all "propaganda of a cartoon turtle ducking and covering being shown to kids". In fact, it wasn't even propaganda, Civil Defense worked hand and hand with the U.S. Government with nearly every single nuclear test the US ever did before the mid 60s to find out the basics of how Nuclear Detonation and it's radioactive effects work, and much more. It's beyond mind blowing that NO fallout game have has tried to actually incorporate any legitimate Civil Defense lore into the games, although it's clear as day it was still present in 2077 before everything went to shit.
@sski Жыл бұрын
Cool beans, Omega. I think it would be neat to put part of what goes down at Mariposa in those days, right before and after the big bada booms, that lead to Maxon starting the BoS and what would lead to the Master and Harold eventually. Maybe have it as a chapter, in a game of chapters. Where the player isn't one character through the whole game, or is but through some writing mechanic 'lives the lives' of those during the war at different locations and times throughout the game. Maybe the character finds the 'Central Vault-Tec Zax "Accumulator" - The central processing computer that all computers from around the country dumped to before all communication was cut off, that cataloged every happening and can reconstruct events through the use of the good ol' Memory Lounger ala Kellog's memory trip or Operation Anchorage. Just some ideas.
@Hunkie904 Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea and always was dreaming about a game with that type of concept. Set during the time before the zero hour, during and immediately after the cataclysm of apocalyptic size, showing us the unimaginable chaos in the modern society, everything burning with people fleeing, fighting and killing each other in other to surive and with player taking decisions in order stay alive. Resident Evil 2 was that type of game and it was good, I really hope that more devs would decide to take that aproach and evolve it into something bigger, hell it could even be a great multiplayer game with factions and roleplay! Thank you for the video Omega and you do good as always
@GunnerHD94 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely and a great idea, first half of the game you play as a young US soldier fighting on the front lines in Alaska (Gen. Chase makes an appearance) and then as you push China out of the region you get sent back to mainland America for R&R. then as your about to get redeployed for the push into mainland China the bombs go off in October with you surviving that from within a vault underneath a US Army base. Then second half of the game is you as that same soldier emerging from the vault 20-25 years later and dealing with the reality of the destroyed world around you. Maybe shying away from the RPG aspect this time around but definitely keeping the game open world
@abdenourbrahmi4890 Жыл бұрын
i see the concept of Final days working better as an episode of the Fallout TV serie, since the linear non-open world is a bit uncompatible with the video game, however the TV serie is a great opportunity to expand the lore and experiment with the saga.
@Turdinkledge Жыл бұрын
The king is back!
@camsterscool Жыл бұрын
2:45 that would work
@Otterdisappointment Жыл бұрын
I always loved the idea that, by Bethesda’s marketing touch, it’s all just a simulation made by Vault Tec to entertain and prepare people but marketed towards vault dwellers, specifically. The world could be in a much different state or the war could’ve not happened at all but the only indication of the scope of the simulation is the pause menu background being a Vault Tec screen so you could be anywhere experiencing it, at any time on any in universe system; even in a hardened Fallout shelter during a nuclear exchange on a special VR computer. I’m still torn on this for a game where you can change how things go just because you have HOI4 TNO but nothing really changes changes because events that show developments before the apocalypse being a blessing or a curse are guaranteed to pop up depending on what country you were playing.
@Nnneemo Жыл бұрын
And radiation treatment everywhere.... Clean up and radway every time you get to leave shield filter equip building.
@Chernobyl60 Жыл бұрын
Personally if this ever happened I would want to send it to be in Louisiana or the swamps of Louisiana.
@captainsinclair7954 Жыл бұрын
I like this story idea
@Commrade-DOGE Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see my city of Baltimore in fallout.
@jessebushka467 Жыл бұрын
It's already fallout
@Commrade-DOGE Жыл бұрын
@@jessebushka467 nah it’s more GTA online
@seanjamesjones2833 Жыл бұрын
I have a good "what if" video idea What if the Commonwealth Provisional Government wasn't destroyed/survived or the institute failed in their attempt to destroy it
@glassofmilk3474 Жыл бұрын
For the bloodiest war in the timeline the Sino-American war is that little covered (aside from Anchorage) that it doesn't really look that bad. I really would love to see it expanded on.
@joelm33 Жыл бұрын
I always liked Fallout because of the hope. No matter how bad things got, we could always make it better, learn from past mistakes and rebuild. My favourite example of this is in Fallout 76. We know that one of the main reasons for the great war was America's inability to share fusion technology with the Chinese. Had they done so, then China might not have invaded Alaska and the escalation might not have led to nukes being fired. The Settlers and the Raiders find themselves in a similar situation regarding the gold. Will the player choose to share these resources with his enemy in a spirit of good faith and mutual cooperation? or will they choose to horde the resources for themselves and thus repeat the mistakes of the past. I chose to learn from the past and break bread with my enemy, which led to them becoming allies with me. Now there is peace in our time. This is what I love about this series and is what keeps me coming back to it.
@Potato_wizoon Жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep up the good work
@bpora01 Жыл бұрын
"Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn"
@l7537 Жыл бұрын
I fucking love this idea, and it would be unlike anything else. A brutal, bloody, violent, and cruel look at post war America. A dying nation, clawing at gnashing at the walls surrounding it like a rabid dog, until it finally becomes the world we know as Fallout
@anvos658 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the concept of a Fallout that shows the immediate aftermath, but I think it would make a better story if you were just a person/family and friends trying to survive, and find more permanent shelter/community and maybe put it in an area we haven't seen.
@joshbigz8440 Жыл бұрын
This would be like the first mad max movie. In the first movie the apocalypse is just starting and max is trying to stop the apocalypse from happening as a cop and ends with him going on a revenge killing spree against the raider gangers who killed his family. By the events in the next film the end of the world has fully taken place and preventing it is a forgone conclusion.
@sgt.pickle2607 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you understand what makes fallout so special. It’s not purely about, “oh the worlds over!! We gotta save everyone” like that Chernobyl show. It’s about the people and mutants after the war, how the world would be long after the bombs dropped. Sure it’s very dark and atmospheric, but it balances it out with humor and goofiness say how stupid of an idea some of the things they come up with. It’s not about before the war (that’s just cool background stuff that may effect a side quest) it’s about life and people afterwards.
@fallenknighttyler8695 Жыл бұрын
A linear game that's also open world can work, Metro Exodus proved that
@bejaminmaston1347 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video on what if the enclave arrived in the commonwealth
@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 Жыл бұрын
What if the east coast was more heavily bombarded, meaning less people who survived, more deaths from radiation and such. my point is it would take longer to rebuild
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
D.C. might be more bombed because it's the capital, but Boston basically all in tact, the people there are just idiots.
@ForTheFREEMAN Жыл бұрын
Having anything that's not a linear pathway is simply just going to retcon everything in the future. Making it a different timeline entirely from Fallout 3 and others. Imagine being able to kill the president or destroy the enclave before that was created or even stop the NCR from forming my even talking to someone.
@scythe2534 Жыл бұрын
(TL;DR at the bottom) Section 1: FALLOUT SHOULD NOT TAKE PLACE PRE-WAR This is just my two-cents, but I feel like making a Fallout game (at least a canon one) set before the war would ruin the whole Fallout world for me. I feel like our view of the Pre-War world **should** be only through small glimpses at logs and from anecdotes/stories. This POV is core to the Fallout universe in my opinion, in every aspect of the games. In its critique of modern society/the human condition in general, it removes us (the audience) from the present and pushes us into the future. By doing this, it instantly puts us in a reflective mindset; we ignore at least some of our prejudices and biases because the situation makes our brains disconnect from our specific present and connect with the Fallout world's present. This is usually called immersion. I'll call it "submersion" for the rest of my comment. The submersion in an imagined, obviously sci-fi future does even more to remove us from our present view of politics and shit. Besides taking us out of our time, it also takes us out of a lot of our context. For example, have you ever even seen a computer as huge as the ones in Fallout, *in person*? No, you haven't. Things like that take away our context, the thing we rely on to keep ourselves above the metaphorical water. But that's just discussing the message of the Fallout franchise itself. And that can't be the major draw for everyone, so here's the second aspect of the games: the gameplay loop. The gameplay loop of Fallout has always involved a lot of combat. Even in Fallout 1 and 2, it was heavily involved in your gameplay. As the Fallout series has grown and time has passed, it has become more and more combat focused; Fallout 4 was, sometimes, a glorified shooting gallery. So how would you apply this combat-focus in the mid 21st century? Through a military. Most likely a military that led directly into the decimation of millions upon millions (if not billions upon billions) of people. And how would they make this fun? By glorifying the military, and by glorifying war. Whether or not you think me saying "military shooters are glorifying war/the military" is some SJW bullshit, if you analyzed what games like COD or Siege or any other military-style-shooter leave you thinking in your head, you'd agree with me. I'm not saying "COD makes u wanna kill Iraqis" or whatever. What I'm saying is, you play as a soldier murdering other soldiers (or non-soldiers sometimes) and you're thinking "Wow, this is fun!" And that's an issue when the whole message of the Fallout game, one that I'd like to preserve, is "War is suffering, and it will always be suffering. But hope is always right in front of you; its in the people around you, and in yourself." That's fine for COD, or for Siege. That's the game. As long as you understand those thoughts are in your head, they won't have much weight on your life *ever* because people can sort reality from fiction fairly well. But Fallout is not a game like that. Fallout glorifies combat, sure, but unless you're pretending to be some vapid Rome-fetishizing r4pist you aren't really in a military. You're fighting to keep the Legion out of the Mojave, or the NCR out of the Mojave, to save your Vault, to save your tribe, or something like that. Sure, you may align yourself with a military from time to time, but the game never says: "Hey, bub. You're fighting for the good ol' US of A," the general paused, as if waiting for something; and then, as if it had been trained, an eagle let out a patriotic screech from the heavens. "That means you're fighting for freedom! Now go murder some folks!" There's usually a much more complicated relationship between the player & violence than, "You're a soldier, go kill some terrorists." Sure, similar things are said about Fiends and you hear military-types talk that way about their opposition, but you're an outside observer to it. If Fallout just straight up put you in the US army, or the Chinese army for that matter, you wouldn't really be an outside observer and you wouldn't really have agency. I guess what I'm saying is, you'd be like one of those generic gruff protagonists in a COD game. Section 2: CONCLUSION AND SHIT BUT, if the game showed the final days of the war through cutscenes or something similar and then put you into a crumbling, nuked world, I think the agency, indeed the personhood, of your character would remain intact. And it wouldn't be glorifying the war, which as I said would fuck up the Fallout message. It would instead be able to point out issues with the Pre-War society that aren't apparent through the magazines, pop culture, etc. that we see around all of the games. And that could be cool. Also the guns would probably be more pristine and they make cool noises. TL;DR - Setting a Fallout game before the Great War would ruin the overarching themes of Fallout, and it wouldn't be able to effectively distance ourselves from our current present to allow our brains to process the Fallout universe separate from our own. We'd project our ideas onto it a lot more. But if a game was set right after the war, that could be interesting.
@jonathanfrank1189 Жыл бұрын
Actually I’d love a game as part of Maxon’s unit And to show how some of the best soldiers of the US turned traitor over the FEV and go from a group just trying to survive to something new in the wastelands.
@floridaball4896 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted a fallout game based on the founding of the brotherhood of steel
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
@@floridaball4896 Have you heard about the Storyteller mod for Fallout 4?
@floridaball4896 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I have but I meant set during the founding of the brotherhood of steel
@isaacbahzad20 Жыл бұрын
I have a fallout alternate history idea for you “what if you the vault dweller stayed in vault 13
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
That's similar enough to the Master winning that I'm not going to cover it.
@gasmonkey1000 Жыл бұрын
I kinda prefer the idea of it being set somewhere not seen before, maybe Atlanta, New Orleans, or Wichita. More to learn and it'd a new sort of area being in the south or the midwest. As for story structure I feel like a huge chunk should focus on characters. Have the player spend time with their squadmates and unit so they feel like a family while also being tempted to desert to try to find your own family. And of course throw in dark moments where looters and bread rioters are shot, shit right out of shows like Threads where people are being shot and people are starving
@c-pen7029 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a what if about the Commonwealth Provisional Government worked?
@saturn12002 Жыл бұрын
Everything about this concept is something I've wanted to see from fallout ever since I first got into the franchise when I picked up a copy of fallout 3 for my 360 more than a decade ago. Im one of the fallout fans that suffers from chronic "old world blues".
@theseus0467 Жыл бұрын
Steel Plague when?!
@theseus0467 Жыл бұрын
@Circus.of.the.dead_2077 If you moidahed Rhombus in Fallout 1 the Brotherhood of Steel would put New California into a Dark Age that may have lasted 1,000 years via seizing literally all technology.
@olmeno Жыл бұрын
i know you made a video about mr house already but i was wondering what if mr house didnt wait for civilisation to come back (in form of ncr in 2274) and started acting by looking for the chip and contacted the tribals when he woke from coma in 2138?
@connorvaughn6460 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see something similar to this. Only with an American soldier that is in China when the bombs go off. The gobi desert could be an untouched area right after the nukes fell. So your character would have to make his/her way through the gobi desert back to the closest city center. The closer you get to the city/cities The more the devastation becomes clear. Fall back into the Gobi and things are frozen in time essentially. Which would force chinese citizens en masse into the gobi as well. Kicking off our fallout: Final Days game.
@Noseylemon Жыл бұрын
I think this sounds like an amazing game
@airsoftplayergggamer Жыл бұрын
We've never seen a fallout game in Houston
@temerityxd8602 Жыл бұрын
I feel like what your describing would work better as an rts or maybe something like "this war of mine" no particular goal other than to survive anyway you can
@werr3222werrr Жыл бұрын
If the show is successful it would be good for that
@someguy9293 Жыл бұрын
I can see this. It would add on to the already established lore, and service as a fallout prelude. Also I think the story should have multiple branches of different settings. Like you choose where you want to go. Like Washington DC Seattle San Francisco Boston Chicago or Denver. This way the story is linear but the player can play different settings and issues unique to those settings. Ultimately, non of the choices you make will even matter as again everything turns to ash and yourself will be lost to time. A forgotten memory.
@qwellen7521 Жыл бұрын
I can actually see this working - a metro style game with spec-ops the line style tone. Detroit would be a good candidate for this pitch
@ignacygoreczny69162 ай бұрын
I think it would be cool! I would call it Fallout: Midnight though.
@willowchair Жыл бұрын
based on this description, i'm think you'd be a big fan of pathologic