Street Fighters Garbage Super (6.25% of the time)

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Жыл бұрын

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@MitoNova583 11 ай бұрын

it's funny how Birdie's optimized custom combo is visually just his The Birdie super but more

@rogeriodelima6397 Жыл бұрын

Shermie from kof 2002 also has a mash to go away super, it's one of her command grab supers. It's very easy to escape, but if you don't it's an instakill

@prof.laytonfan764 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m glad they got rid of that super in KOF XV. Unless you didn’t know how the super worked, it would never kill anyone.

@masterdoge7219 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it's crazy that, out of all characters, Shermie had two troll supers like that. This one in normal form and the Level 3 in Orochi form, that she can just self KO. You'd think that that would be something to happen to a character like Shingo, but no, Shermie got those for absolutely no reason. Guess at least the self KO one aged well with the LTG meme.

@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын

Granblue Fantasy Versus Ladies immediately reminded me of THAT!

@tedjomuljono3052 Жыл бұрын

not really mashing but Darun's LV3 in the SFEX games is an instant kill unless the opponent presses the correct buttons to "counter" it

@tammid8423 Жыл бұрын

@@tedjomuljono3052f they guess wrong too much its a guaranteed ko tho

@shadedrob137 Жыл бұрын

My Dad flipped back in the day when we were taking turns against the arcade on max difficulty. My old man somehow got this Super Attack on Zangief and was about to finally get us on the next level. Then, the Gief broke the stun and SPD'd Birdie into a continue screen. We were truly shocked...

@LargeInCharge77 11 ай бұрын

Your dad got robbed

@slamtown1903 Жыл бұрын

Most people don't even know you can do this, now I'm screwed

@TheCJRhodes Жыл бұрын

yeah, how do i hide this video from my fightcade opponents?

@Rugalbernstein777 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Its still not possible tô realistically mash out of it without a macro turbo controller however só its a good way tô expose macro scrubs 🤣🤣🤣

@slamtown1903 Жыл бұрын

@@Rugalbernstein777 the video literally explains how its possible without turbo though

@Rugalbernstein777 Жыл бұрын

@@slamtown1903 Yes but its RNG and even then very few people can legit mash out even on the 6.25% bit which is the best case scenario (or in alpha 1 which is easier) so if someone can get out of it almost all the time, its most likely a macro anyway.

@slamtown1903 Жыл бұрын

@@Rugalbernstein777 I dont think its a very good mentality to assume everybody that's doing something impressive is cheating

@rampant1apart Жыл бұрын

Oh man. I thought it was a special canned dizzy animation just for visual appeal. I didn’t realize it was just a regular dizzy state! 😂

@kholdkhaos64ray11 Жыл бұрын

This channel never ceases to fascinate me with its content and neat factoids.

@Dr.Livingdark Жыл бұрын

This is why I play Twelve, him being trash is completely consistent.

@forcrit2562 Жыл бұрын

Unless you pick X Morph...

@Dr.Livingdark Жыл бұрын

@@forcrit2562 true, but many of these characters rely on either EX specials or supers, neither of which Twelve is capable of doing

@shallotonions3296 Жыл бұрын

@@forcrit2562 X-Morph (X.C.O.P.Y) is probably Twelve's worst Super option even though he doesn't have to play as Twelve unless it's a mirror match during SAIII

@phorchybug3286 6 ай бұрын

I just think he's awesome.

@ZappBranniglenn Жыл бұрын

His name is Birdie, but I'd say he's Over Par, even if he had a normal super.

@absoul112 Жыл бұрын

I see what you did there

@metallsnubben Жыл бұрын

Bogie

@StarkMaximum Жыл бұрын

Given that some animations have him picking his nose, I imagine he's no stranger to bogies.

@millerwrightt Жыл бұрын

Love how you connected this oddity to actual decisions in modern games. Great video as always!

@souljasleet Жыл бұрын

If you are a Mario party masher you are getting out everytime

@vahallen9876 Жыл бұрын

This was a pleasant and interesting video, thanks for the content Also, damn Birdie let himself go in SFV holy shit

@IMWATCHING501 Жыл бұрын

Typically older games weren't built with a pro scene in mind.

@michaelmccoy1794 Жыл бұрын

5:25 GoldLewis's brother--the burger sheriff--looking on in the background!

@seedmole Жыл бұрын

Always blows my mind to see how early the Alpha series came out

@shinsmoke Жыл бұрын

I'm glad to see a video based on this, I've learned about this a good while back when I seen the AI recovered quickly from it's dizzy animation, which is why I only used both his level 1 and 2 of "The Birdie".

@MrOnboard Жыл бұрын

This dude never misses. I hope one day he covers other fighting games in this depth.

@pokeshark Жыл бұрын

I love Alpha2 and really appreciate that you do these videos about its quirks.

@harryvpn1462 Жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early sf5 had 8 frames of delay

@swissmagic Жыл бұрын

love all the videos on retro street fighter, not so much on the newer titles tho, keep it up!

@brothatsneat6231 Жыл бұрын

Oh how I love thinking

@HQRubbish Жыл бұрын

6.25% of the time I leave a funny comment.

@duo317 Жыл бұрын

Blazblue used to have a mash to escape combo with Jin's ice.

@queenkoopaxxx Жыл бұрын

in persona 4 arena you can mash out of freeze attacks

@azmodanpc Жыл бұрын

Never mind me. I’m here for the doom metal soundtrack in the background

@CCandthebeartankexpress Жыл бұрын

good stuff. you should prolly have an entire video on asuka from strive, or just an in depth look at how certain item characters stay balanced despite factors of rng. i can imagine that would take awhile.

@fonzworthbentley7455 Жыл бұрын

Also Jin from Blazblue had ice attacks that forced you to try to mash out of them

@residentmemeinspector4157 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reminding me how obnoxious biteloops are

@chilidaddy1117 Жыл бұрын

Having to mash out of stun/stagger might be my most hated fg mechanic ever tbh, the number of accidental inputs I've gotten out of it...

@arktype586 Жыл бұрын

Same energy as having moves that are negative on hit😅

@no64256 Жыл бұрын

Or overheads that whiffs on crouching opponents

@assassinonprozac Жыл бұрын

Or Dee Jay’s force stand move that whiffs on crouchers.

@gyytgy3330 11 ай бұрын

I’ve become really interested in RNG characters like Shingo recently

@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын

I have been watching a certain KZfaq channel making SFA3 Rose into Lisa Lisa and Zangief into borderline Wuxia This video dropped at a great time

@DioDCynic Жыл бұрын

I'm a normal fighting game player, I see a new TheoryFighter video and I just click!

@AuntBibby Жыл бұрын

i like birdie hes like a bulldog

@TwistedSoul2002 Жыл бұрын

That screen grab looks sick!

@gryphon885 Жыл бұрын

Apparently I can comment before this video is even done rendering. Neat!

@bunnybreaker Жыл бұрын

Had my suspicions, but never realised this back in the day, since I nor my friends liked playing as Birdie.

@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын

Lemme remember Golf.. -3 Albatross -2 Eagle (SF1 SFA) -1 Birdie (see above) +1 Bogey And the Lv3 hits ...FIVE TIMES?

@nullno3722 Жыл бұрын

Magneto in MvC2, if you don't mash out of his magnetic grab into super, you'll eat 60-65% damage.

@lordjimbo2 Жыл бұрын

SFA2 is one of those games that about fifty thousand people LOVE and can't stop talking about and everyone else remembers as being a comically broken mess.

@clementnunes5070 Жыл бұрын

We can love broken mess ! I personnally do >

@AzureSymbiote Жыл бұрын

And people who brag about Alpha 2 often rag on Alpha 3 for being broken.

@mostverticalproductions4808 6 ай бұрын

I'd play Alpha 2 over any of the SF2 titles any day of the year.

@Bloodlyshiva 27 күн бұрын

And yet it was an improvement over Alpha 1.

@doutsida6715 Жыл бұрын

Can someone explain Leona's qcb+P in kof 97/98? I know it's a reference to an older movie, but does it have any real utility?

@kaiserbts8007 Жыл бұрын

Yep it is really weird, I play him even though I can't do customs with my setup because I don't know how to play anyone else

@ericwill5210 11 ай бұрын

How do you get that scan line balance for your videos? I really like it.

@JNAMOTORSPORTS 15 күн бұрын

What’s crazy is they dont update older games and fix shit like this when a modder can

@Slayerthecrow Жыл бұрын

And I Thought Blanka's Super in Alpha 3 was bad, this was worst.

@PragmaticAntithesis Жыл бұрын

Mashing out of combos is a universal mechanic in Super Smash Bros. In fact, there are two types: DI, where pressing the stick in a certain direction will change your opponent's knockback; and SDI, where mashing the stick between directions causes your character to move while in hitlag.

@Lyoko1309 Жыл бұрын

In this case, there's another, more apt comparison: the stun after getting your shield broken can be mashed to make it end faster. Imagine someone had a move that always broke shields, but then had so much recovery afterwards that you could get out sometimes.

@Orbrun Жыл бұрын

actually only SDI is universal in smash. smash 64 did not have directional influence over knockback which is one reason why it's combos are more punishing and reputable

@Ottrond Жыл бұрын

so cool

@TheBaioken Ай бұрын

R.mika has a super like that in alpha3, but I think it's a cutscene, not real dizzy

@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын

3:58 0_0 O M G

@KingJaeTV 10 ай бұрын

4:24 What is that damage!?

@ojodeoro1106 Жыл бұрын

What happened to birdie? He was jacked now he is a balloon ready to pop

@idoshanintendo Жыл бұрын

I wish the video was 6 minutes and 25 seconds

@tootsie_ Жыл бұрын

Still better than Blue Nocturne tho

@MrHubba9bubba Жыл бұрын

Bye bye birdie movie first in my recommended after this video lmao

@Sorrelhas Жыл бұрын

Didn't +R Ky had a 6H into 6H that combo'ed into 6H that you could link into 6H that led into 6H and so on if the opponent didn't mash?

@lankymaccrazyhair264 11 ай бұрын

I just checked and couldn't find anything quiet like you just said maybe it's in some other version of a-core. I'm also not sure what that has to do with this video

@Sorrelhas 11 ай бұрын

@@lankymaccrazyhair264 He mentions mashing to get out of stun, a mechanic in old GG

@lankymaccrazyhair264 11 ай бұрын

@@Sorrelhas eh, ok.

@vonVile Жыл бұрын

The worst super in Alpha is Sodom's Tenchuu Satsu (720+P). Opponents can easily knock him out of it immediately after activation animation with a crouching jab. As for worst Alpha Counter that goes to Nash with his ground sweep. WTF was Capcom thinking by giving him that. It's useless against air attacks and uppercuts. He should have done a Flash Kick or even spinning back fist.

@slamtown1903 Жыл бұрын

Sodoms 720 reaches halfway across the screen your not supposed to do it up close.

@waffles7z Жыл бұрын

quite a humorous glitch

@meganabaja Жыл бұрын

Heyhachi Hichima is not the king of headbutts.

@Rugalbernstein777 Жыл бұрын

If you use this super on The CPU and it connects they will almost instantly break free of any type of stun at the arcade ports even on The lowest difficulty settings... 99. 9% of The player base wont be able tô mash out of it in legit manner even in the Best case scenario shown in the vídeo só realistically only possible with Turbo macros

@Veri7as Жыл бұрын

No need for turbo macros to mash out of this if you get the shortest stun. It's very doable.

@Rugalbernstein777 Жыл бұрын

@@Veri7as Yeah only The shortest one is possible without turbo macros but every other scenario you will have tô pull CPU shenanigans tô get out🤣🤣🤣

@Rugalbernstein777 Жыл бұрын

@@Veri7as Oh i Just noticed you have a name i saw before. I saw you on fightcade matches uploaded by CHAQN2. Good matches My Man!

@redneckedcrake7059 Жыл бұрын

4:35 - These aren't unblockable though, right? They're just 0-frame, so you need to be holding back before the super flash. I think King's Neomax in kof13 and HOS's level 2 632146P work the same way. I know some supers also work like this. If you're up to about a third of a screen away from Bison, and he does 4646k super, you are getting hit unless you were holding back before the flash.

@pon3d120 Жыл бұрын

That’s why he said unblockable on a standing opponent. You can check if they’re standing during the freeze then go for the low.

@PawsOfFate Жыл бұрын

@@pon3d120I can see where he was coming from. Without the extra context of it being 0-frame, which you need to be an FGC nerd to understand anyway, the phrase "...unblockable low on a standing character..." sounds redundant as a standing opponent under normal circumstances cannot block lows anyway.

@phantomgamer4463 Жыл бұрын

isnt it similiar to Dead Or Alive gameplay where you stun ur opponent and the opponent can recover quickly with a counter ?

@shishioh Жыл бұрын

Maaaan don't give Capcom any slack for fucking this up. Around the end of the video, you said they had been working on a game in a genre that was brand new. 1996 was too late in the game for this level of oversight. By the time 1995 hit, no major FG dev was making trash games anymore. The blueprint was already written by that point. This was a blunder you'd expect to see from something on the Atari Jaguar, not 1996 Capcom.

@ougonce 9 ай бұрын

Huh? This kind of oversight happens _to this day_. Quicksilver / DHC glitch in mvc3 (which literally broke the game), TAC infintes in umvc3, Dan infinite in SF5, Vanilla Sagat in SF4... The difference is in 1996 games didn't get patched every week. Saying that a single super being unsafe on hit under very specific circumstances was somehow above 1996 Capcom makes zero sense.