The Tarkov Aftermath & The Launch of Gray Zone Warfare... - Pogcast 201

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On this episode of the Pogcast we talk through everything that happened the weekend that BSG launched the Unheard Edition. We also break down the launch of Gray Zone Warfare into early acces. Check it out! We also offer and audio only experience as well, check that out using the link below!
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Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro Banter
00:07:02 - BSG Kept Making it Worse
00:53:17 - Athletic Greens!
00:55:43 - More Tarkov Talk
01:29:56 - BetterHelp!
01:33:03 - Gray Zone Warfare Launch
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@thepogcastpod
@thepogcastpod 28 күн бұрын
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@nathanmitchell7961
@nathanmitchell7961 28 күн бұрын
Still running BetterHelp? Thats unfortunate.
@suny1265
@suny1265 6 күн бұрын
Pls spare us propping Streamers that do things for they're own benefit even if its free work they Profi by popularity on they're stream.
@BrandonsUsername
@BrandonsUsername 28 күн бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE get Pirate Software on the security part of this Pogcast. He would be able to tear BSG apart on their security.
@fwblu5138
@fwblu5138 28 күн бұрын
Fax I wanna see something like that apex video he did
@guapogorilla
@guapogorilla 28 күн бұрын
I would love to see pirate software on the pogcast. Would be an awesome guest.
@Hey_Its_Adam
@Hey_Its_Adam 27 күн бұрын
He’s one of the biggest streamers in the world. I’m sure they would love to have him but unlikely he would come on.
@CoffeeFresh_
@CoffeeFresh_ 26 күн бұрын
They should get dr disrespect on to talk about twitch and why they fired him.
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd 24 күн бұрын
​@@CoffeeFresh_ AMEN
@ClearlyNutz
@ClearlyNutz 28 күн бұрын
BSG should get their own South Park episode 🤣
@sniffer94
@sniffer94 27 күн бұрын
Now that would be funny af. xD
@DankTank374
@DankTank374 27 күн бұрын
Yes
@zenllama369
@zenllama369 27 күн бұрын
Lmao that would be fucking amazing, the whole town going crazy like we all are, somebody make the call.
@Riga352
@Riga352 28 күн бұрын
I love how SPT can do it flawlessly for years and BSG can't just copy them.
@felipeduarte1997
@felipeduarte1997 28 күн бұрын
Its so absurd that SPT, without any extra money (compared to BSG) made various features like 1 or 2 years earlier than BSG...
@pliniomourao
@pliniomourao 28 күн бұрын
​@@felipeduarte1997 it's because the spot team is responsible only for spt. The mods are the community's love for the game. Many are very talented that makes a complex mod very quickly.
@felipeduarte1997
@felipeduarte1997 28 күн бұрын
@@pliniomourao Yeah! For sure!! They do it out of love for the game, and that alone will make the mod already better!! Ive been having the most fun than I've ever had on tarkov, with modded SPT
@JackCabbit20
@JackCabbit20 28 күн бұрын
Exactly! And I enjoy it alot playing it exclusively with a bit of multiplayer on the side to fuck around.
@mikaelbiilmann6826
@mikaelbiilmann6826 28 күн бұрын
Maybe BSG pulled the stunt in order to try and get enough money to buy the IP of spt.. 😂 Btw, EoD owners will never get the PvE... because 1.0 will never happen. Look at the Arena launch fiasco. They don't care about the EoD owners. They just want to make a quick buck here and now.
@jesterhead9
@jesterhead9 28 күн бұрын
BSG scewed themselves by leaving EoD available for as long as they did. They should have pulled it when the game started to get really popular around 2020. Now most of the player base are EoD owners so how can BSG make money on DLC. I think that they're hurting for money because Arena failed and now this is the aftermath. What I also dont understand is why they arent making new skins for a cosmetic store and instead taking skins earned in the game and having people pay for them.
@TwiggehTV
@TwiggehTV 28 күн бұрын
Yeah whats the incentive for BSG as a company to spend time (and more importantly - MONEY) on developing DLCs when they know fully damned well that the majority of their playerbase is gonna get it for free? It just money down the drain for them. They shoulda removed EoD when the game got popular, and replaced it with some other version didnt have free DLC included..
@ilikeshiba
@ilikeshiba 28 күн бұрын
@@TwiggehTVI mean I’m a casual and I pay monthly subscriptions for games that I like less than the average tarkov player likes tarkov. But I agree, it seems like the “all future DLC” being sold was a promise made when they never intended to keep making the game or making more DLC, given what happened.
@mnm8818
@mnm8818 28 күн бұрын
yeah they shot themselves in the foot by including DLCs in EOD... I doubt it would have made a difference in sales excluding it. giving first 'season' content free is more a normal method... guess they didnt think they would be still dev Tarkov all these yrs maybe ha...
@jordanbauerly8843
@jordanbauerly8843 27 күн бұрын
And yet every other person i kill has extended pockets. So people are buying this shit.
@krelekari
@krelekari 27 күн бұрын
And then the Unheard edition also offered free future DLCs, like they just refuse to understand and are making the same blunders it's infuriating
@OptimalMayhem
@OptimalMayhem 28 күн бұрын
As someone who has spent a career working in Satellite Communications i’m pretty excited to see Veritas’ take on the flat earth madness
@bankleaks1217
@bankleaks1217 27 күн бұрын
Satellites are just balloons dude!
@Knee_High
@Knee_High 26 күн бұрын
I'd he's a flat earther then I'll loose all respect I have for this dude....
@OptimalMayhem
@OptimalMayhem 26 күн бұрын
@@Knee_High Based on what he was saying about the upcoming doc he’s not
@chuyalexis1411
@chuyalexis1411 20 күн бұрын
why do any sort of radar systems never account for a curve and always illustrate a flat plane
@BOchamp01
@BOchamp01 28 күн бұрын
Found SPT through Klean streaming it, and have been playing modded coop with a buddy. Will never play live again. Insane blunder that PvE is online only and has longer queues than PvP. Great show as always!
@sabbath8989
@sabbath8989 28 күн бұрын
I have heard from very first alpha players that pve option was already in alpha and later removed, meaning that they already had working feature. So really half assed attempt from bsg. They added only PMC AI. Ai mods on SpT are far superior according to lot of folks.
@roni_risky01
@roni_risky01 28 күн бұрын
Hi question, how are you play coop spt? I cant find anything that make its coop
@BOchamp01
@BOchamp01 28 күн бұрын
@@sabbath8989 Sains AI mod is a must have imo.
@BOchamp01
@BOchamp01 28 күн бұрын
@@roni_risky01 Gonna stick to what Klean what told to do and not link anything, but google Project Fika.
@GabrielLopez-ts6ou
@GabrielLopez-ts6ou 28 күн бұрын
@@roni_risky01project feka
@dire3648
@dire3648 28 күн бұрын
have used this podcast to hear good perspectives for a while. Appreciate you guys
@williammichelsen5776
@williammichelsen5776 28 күн бұрын
Appreciate the pod as always boys, thanks
@markjoseph8444
@markjoseph8444 28 күн бұрын
I stick around till the end for the music. Crazy 201 and going. Still as good as the beginning.
@KryoTronic
@KryoTronic 28 күн бұрын
If Gray Zone fixes all the stability and performance issues, then i will advertise it to people, but for now, I am having a blast but not recommending it to anyone.
@noxieproxie
@noxieproxie 27 күн бұрын
I usually tell poeple wait a month or 2 before seriously thinking about it
@lotkf1
@lotkf1 28 күн бұрын
If "offline mode" "must play on servers" it's not an offline mode.
@deathlapse3384
@deathlapse3384 27 күн бұрын
Noone said its offline even nikita said its hosted on their servers hence the biggest problem with capacity
@deathlapse3384
@deathlapse3384 27 күн бұрын
And it cant be offline unless its solo. When its co op its gonna be online regardless if one of the players is the server or bsg is the server, unless the players do it in LAN.
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 27 күн бұрын
Its PvE, not offline
@lotkf1
@lotkf1 27 күн бұрын
@@deathlapse3384 watch the trailer, it says "play offline"
@lotkf1
@lotkf1 27 күн бұрын
@@gansior4744 I bet you bought it too, otherwise you wouldn't be dumb enough to harass someone for memeing on the trailer for saying "play offline".
@trathanstargazer6421
@trathanstargazer6421 28 күн бұрын
As someone who has been talking about SPT for quite awhile now. I feel validated seeing everyone starting to praise it now. Those guys really deserve all the love in the world!
@JackCabbit20
@JackCabbit20 28 күн бұрын
Agreed especially as someone who exclusicely played it with the multiplayer to just fuck around. Its so much nicer
@Tacti_cat
@Tacti_cat 28 күн бұрын
"I need a tour guide, Into crazy town" thats exactly how I feel listening to the flat earth debates. I start to feel like I'm doing damage to my mental health without some wiser person's hand on my shoulder.
@drcornelius8275
@drcornelius8275 28 күн бұрын
Is it any different than someone who's a religious radical? I mean, if I'm walking down a dark alley with 6 people following me, and the choice is radical Islamists or flat earthers.... I know which I would choose. But idiots still think the parents at school board meetings are the most dangerous.....
@papabear2965
@papabear2965 28 күн бұрын
“At this point I feel like the vibe is just exhaustion” 52:10 My feelings exactly
@rellix8646
@rellix8646 24 күн бұрын
The concept of high priority matching should not be confusing. A match making system with priority wouldn't require everyone in a game being made to be queuing with priority. If there's a match that's already been made and is awaiting 1-2 more players for example, someone who's queuing with "high priority" would be put in one of those 1-2 spots in that game over someone without priority.
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
Ikr I don't understand how people can't imagine high prio. I mean even back in. battlefield 3 and 4 if you wanted to get into a almost full server you where chosen over other people.
@krazylink
@krazylink 27 күн бұрын
Ive personally been loving the hell outta grayzone and really hope it continues to get better
@mitchg1983
@mitchg1983 28 күн бұрын
Love you guys! Great ep as always
@garrolmace
@garrolmace 27 күн бұрын
Happy Monday yall great show as always! Been loving grayzone even with the dc issues been having a blast with friends on there
@brycehendershot9507
@brycehendershot9507 24 күн бұрын
I’ve been gaming for the last 20 years. 3k hours into tarkov and yet the 250 hours in the 2-3 months of new world before it died was amazing. I hope people support gray zone and if tarkov has steady competition it will only make the genre better.
@destryrofworlds
@destryrofworlds 28 күн бұрын
@thepogcastpod I’m a PhD student studying apologetics, specifically cult theology and cult practice. I’d love to talk to you about it if you’re interested.
@VeritasGames
@VeritasGames 28 күн бұрын
I might reach out, thanks!
@seymourgainz5505
@seymourgainz5505 28 күн бұрын
The perfect storm... so many things happened in favor for the Gray Zone devs before they launched their game.
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd 28 күн бұрын
Frfr. 7k hrs standy, I don't see myself going back to EFT at all, been having a blast in the open world bsg is unable to deliver.
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
​@@Schimml0rdI mean if you really got 7k hours out of a 40€ game you can't expect much more from it now can you.
@BunialskiTrip
@BunialskiTrip 26 күн бұрын
Best podcast on the net. Probably.
@-mayo-
@-mayo- 27 күн бұрын
A lot of the mods are for realism, healing changes, gun operations, AI improvements…. The mods on SPT are incredible!
@benellib7655
@benellib7655 28 күн бұрын
Appreciate you two. 🙌
@xm8553
@xm8553 28 күн бұрын
I saw the old video of Nikita from 2015 at a gamescon or heater in Russia where he basically said (I’m paraphrasing) “the way you succeed in making a game is keeping the player base unhappy and wanting more from you, but the main goal is to take money from the players.” You can look up the video still, but ever since I saw that I just don’t trust anything they say or do. Nikita is smart, I believe everything that is happening is by design
@smokethatgameb9937
@smokethatgameb9937 28 күн бұрын
Do you have a link to this video. I would like to view this for myself.
@Qvantiyum
@Qvantiyum 28 күн бұрын
@@smokethatgameb9937 /watch?v=bxSzfiyr7BI&t
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 28 күн бұрын
@@smokethatgameb9937 There are two videos One where he talks about cheaters adding to their profit, and one about the player base being unhappy. Someone has the entire segment uploaded. It’s like an hiur
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 28 күн бұрын
@@smokethatgameb9937 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrF2hJB0uZamnoE.htmlsi=3u4BCvFqpP7BGbFW
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 28 күн бұрын
@@smokethatgameb9937thats one of them
@TeeTownVideos
@TeeTownVideos 27 күн бұрын
I wasn't going to mention it unless you guys brought it up first, but yea, SPT coop with mods is so fucking good, me and my buds have been playing it every day for the last week strictly because of BSG's behavior. It's well worth playing through the kinks and stuff, great time. BSG claiming they'll add mod support (I do not believe them in the slightest) is absolutely a defensive measure because of the rising popularity of SPT in the wake of their incompetence.
@Ruckus907
@Ruckus907 28 күн бұрын
Damn, the boys got deep this week. Glad to see you two thriving.
@1bobharvey
@1bobharvey 28 күн бұрын
Yes please, I've wanted shturmans jacket for years! Take my monies 😂
@BlueBirdsProductions
@BlueBirdsProductions 27 күн бұрын
Jesse you sound like you truly, honestly, really, really do love athletic greens it sounds like you absolutely really 100% for sure use that product daily
@CssHDmonster
@CssHDmonster 28 күн бұрын
1:02:00 bsg in a nutshell, a giant incompetency problem
@meadowlarkinmontana0406
@meadowlarkinmontana0406 25 күн бұрын
Another banger episode of the pogcast
@NathanWienand
@NathanWienand 28 күн бұрын
The reason you have to be connected to a server in "offline" mode - is so they can control their IP - otherwise people will run private servers with mods etc. and they will lose control of their code (as they will have to ship a server with the client)... Not only tht but they will lose control over monetisation.
@Darius10thP
@Darius10thP 27 күн бұрын
TSA precheck will make you feel like a celebrity walking past all the peasants totally worth it
@mnal5gex
@mnal5gex 27 күн бұрын
From what I’ve seen is ppl complaining about performance. And a lot think it should be flawless at early access.
@Mondochiwan
@Mondochiwan 27 күн бұрын
I love how Jesse's verbal avalanche covers Vertitas' long thoughtful pauses 😂 Recently started watching during Tarkovgate and this show is great guys!
@AllistairTenpenny
@AllistairTenpenny 28 күн бұрын
Love hearing your thoughts on all the bs updates from Nikita.
@denzel6060
@denzel6060 28 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, I thought you two were the same person until this moment right now. New to Tarkov and extraction shooters. Love the content from the both of you.
@09666slayer
@09666slayer 28 күн бұрын
The final nail in the coffin for me with EFT was the mention of priority matchmaking.
@drcornelius8275
@drcornelius8275 28 күн бұрын
But if you tried to say this possibility existed before, you were labeled a conspiracy nut......
@bootchoo96
@bootchoo96 27 күн бұрын
How would that even work tho
@ayuminor
@ayuminor 27 күн бұрын
​@@drcornelius8275 Well yea, we said that because it would be a crazy nutjob thing to do, not to mention PR suicide.. they went and did it but it's still just as crazy and out there.
@TheMissing8
@TheMissing8 27 күн бұрын
It's been a secret thing for a while. Pestily talked about it once.
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd 24 күн бұрын
​@@ayuminor it makes perfect sense tho, it explains why me and my friends on wipeday never queue for less than 10mins, while lvndmark and co never wait a quarter of an hour 😮
@jacobwalker8999
@jacobwalker8999 28 күн бұрын
Honestly it's pretty funny now. At first I was pissed but now it's just hilarious. BSG keeps on giving lol.
@exeterfg
@exeterfg 27 күн бұрын
Battlefield tried their own version of high priority matching with their premium pass. It took them multiple games to realize that it did almost nothing because almost everyone bought premium.
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
And after a while they just gave premium for free which made it even funnier seeing: (In queue:2 priority queue: 12)
@drdipply9520
@drdipply9520 28 күн бұрын
You know Jessie, I will spend my time doing what I like. I’ll be here for the next episode of the cast to listen while I build a new Lego set. Keep it up guys!
@pol5ki
@pol5ki 27 күн бұрын
Jesse with the accent 😂 that's the content I come here for
@YodaIzChaos
@YodaIzChaos 28 күн бұрын
Lets not forget to mention... If the idea was to give PvE to EoD AT LAUNCH... That only means that they had no intention of giving players the mode as part of the full game... Which means it would STILL BE DLC.
@bartoszbaranowski604
@bartoszbaranowski604 28 күн бұрын
high priority matching could mean that you take precedence in waiting queue. So if there are players waiting and Tuesday and EOD are looking, Tuesday gets in to the game with those people.
@clapdtheclown4209
@clapdtheclown4209 27 күн бұрын
I'm convinced that the level of incompetence inside BSG has yet to fully rear it's head. If they are that careless with the API data, how are they handling your personal information? Is there someone in BSG making it easy for cheat devs to operate so they can cash in? The fact that cheaters got access to a PVE game and were able to move the gear to the live game says they have some sort of door they can enter through that is unlocked on BSG's side.
@betamale282
@betamale282 27 күн бұрын
Everyone remembers the guy from our childhood who was a know-it-all like Veritas
@einfisch3891
@einfisch3891 27 күн бұрын
I'm honestly happy thet released GZW, I've been waiting to play it and even though it has a lot of problems I'm just happy I can play it. I really hope the devs keep going in the right path, because if they dont fuck up ( big if ) it could be really great.
@ThePanguino
@ThePanguino 28 күн бұрын
The server stuff makes sense, if you imagine they did the server configurations all wrong.
@gagrin1565
@gagrin1565 26 күн бұрын
BSG calmly aimed at their foot only to somehow hit themselves squarely between the eyes. An incredible trick-shot, full points!
@buddymac1
@buddymac1 28 күн бұрын
Free speech is the most powerful force ever harnessed by mankind.
@drcornelius8275
@drcornelius8275 28 күн бұрын
Correct, the left wants censorship now, but only if they're in control of the censor..... if it were the other way, they would be burning down police stations again.
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 27 күн бұрын
Agreed, let all the crack pot theories through, the free marketplace of ideas will mock the bad, and put the good on a pedestal. Thing is, just like shootings, thefts, crime in general, it’s not like it is up or anything, it’s just that now with the internet, we see it everywhere, all the time, on camera. Ive been on YT since 06, and the whole time we had young earth creationists, 911 truthers, moon landing deniers, flat earthers, Gale Chord Schuler, Alex Jones, venomfangx, shockofgod, thing is, all these people existed and thought these things long before some channel regurgitated their beliefs to them, they just had a place to talk about it. They were still all massively mocked, now if we mock, you’re a bigot lol, Richard Dawkins made his living debunking bs claims. Wtf. Let us all speak freely again ffs. All I can say is, when I was growing up, the KKK was a party favor joke on jerry springer, now that they censor everything, their beliefs, and the mockery that ensues, now they are organized. Great job! These people were online in forums since the dawn of chat rooms, YT didn’t help them spread, they just met each other on a diff platform, they didnt organize so much until the censorship bs adpocalypse. But that’s the thing, the winners get to rewrite history, as if it happened the way they think it did. Unless you were on YT and the internet as an adult, you simply do not get what actually transpired, just because you read some articles, doesn’t mean what they claimed actually happened. It’s bullshit folks, and it’s bad for ya. -George Carlin Im just so passionate about free speech or the lack of on YT specifically. This used to be a great platform, that went after scientology (around the world IRL) for the COS taking down a Tom Cruise video, now, we would be protecting Tom’s right to sound insane and shut the video down, protesters would be issuing false dmca takedowns to mirrors of the video.
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 27 күн бұрын
Agreed, let all the crack pot theories through, the free marketplace of ideas will mock the bad, and put the good on a pedestal. Thing is, just like shootings, thefts, crime in general, it’s not like it is up or anything, it’s just that now with the internet, we see it everywhere, all the time, on camera. Ive been on YT since 06, and the whole time we had young earth creationists, 911 truthers, moon landing deniers, flat earthers, Gale Chord Schuler, Alex Jones, venomfangx, shockofgod, thing is, all these people existed and thought these things long before some channel regurgitated their beliefs to them, they just had a place to talk about it. They were still all massively mocked, now if we mock, you’re a bigot lol, Richard Dawkins made his living debunking bs claims. Wtf. Let us all speak freely again ffs. All I can say is, when I was growing up, the Kay ok ok (word games censorship bs) was a party favor, absolute joke on jerry springer. Now?They censor everything, their beliefs, and the mockery that ensues, and now they are organized. Great job! These people were online in forums since the dawn of chat rooms, YT didn’t help them spread, they just met each other on a diff platform, they didnt organize so much until the censorship bs adpocalypse. But that’s the thing, the winners get to rewrite history, as if it happened the way they think it did. Unless you were on YT and the internet as an adult, you simply do not get what actually transpired, just because you read some articles, doesn’t mean what they claimed actually happened. It’s bullshit folks, and it’s bad for ya. -George Carlin Im just so passionate about free speech or the lack of on YT specifically. This used to be a great platform, that went after scientology (around the world IRL) for the COS taking down a Tom Cruise video, now, we would be protecting Tom’s right to sound insane and shut the video down, protesters would be issuing false dmca takedowns to mirrors of the video. Also the people that were in conspiracy for the OK city bombing, they had a network through faxing and leaflets mailed lol, tell me how you wanna stop that? If they want to get to the point of militarizing, they will despite the internet being massively censored.
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 27 күн бұрын
Yea i cant even comment about free speech and make points about it without my comment getting taken down. What happened to the internet, and YT is clown world, and works against the betterment of people. We have no free marketplace of ideas anymore, just a spoonfed marketplace of ideas, and that leads to militias more than any truther, young earth creationist, channel etc ever did.
@ToploadedGaming
@ToploadedGaming 27 күн бұрын
All my comments are getting deleted haha, i give up, the state of free speech on YT.
@elementary_aleks9515
@elementary_aleks9515 27 күн бұрын
Being able to obtain Account Ban Status through the publicly available tarkov api is such an incredible blunder as it would allow cheat devs to easily gather data after a ban wave.
@elementary_aleks9515
@elementary_aleks9515 27 күн бұрын
i.e determine which cheats players were banned for using and thus easily figure out what caused the detection.
@mcdank3147
@mcdank3147 23 күн бұрын
Veritas - you sounded good this episode, healthy and happy, glad to hear it. Jesse - you’re Jesse. Good stuff fellas.
@ayuminor
@ayuminor 27 күн бұрын
"Now you have the opportunity to test this mode by purchasing [the $250 edition of the game]" I can't 🤣 Oh the PRIVILEDGE to test this exciting new feature! Let me get my credit card right away! I haven't had a horse in the race for what EFT is up to for a good while, but this is straight comedy to watch as a bystander. It's like some live performance satire piece of the video game industry.
@Big95T
@Big95T 27 күн бұрын
With all the drama and BS going with Tarkov and BSG I have resorted to playing older games and it's been a BLAST! I haven't given in to the FOMO to the newer extraction shooters coming out its been nice ❤
@kylecer
@kylecer 27 күн бұрын
I feel dumb even bringing this up cause Veritas already knows but didnt clarify it. But for banned players having 2/3 hours doesnt necessarily mean it was just a cheater account for hundreds of hours. Could have just been a salt that decided to download cheats and get banned hundreds of hours into playing the game. Its probably an exception not the rule scenario.
@nineteenkilo
@nineteenkilo 27 күн бұрын
Veritas, sick sweatshirt. Would love to hear you guys chat about the Deep Dip 2 discovery next week.
@Bers3rk_tv
@Bers3rk_tv 28 күн бұрын
We live in a culture of "I need it now!" And I can understand, companies over hype games, and release comes out and it's bare bones. And then the content drip begins, which I personally can't stand at all. I do believe GZW has very good potential going forward, just all depends on how well they execute their idea. If it fails it fails, so be it. But I agree for 35$ I got what I want/wanted out of it. Also agree with the pricing. Why are there so many options? How do I know that my 100$ will see the game through? But that conversation is like beating a dead horse. I hope the game succeeds I really do. But there are some current QOL that need updates ASAP. It's just really becoming frustrating trying to trust a game company, trying to support them and then seeing their true colors. With that said, GGs in the future and just enjoy the game or any game you play. Just have to understand that we play to have fun and escape the real life. GG's
@Cat_Zeppelin
@Cat_Zeppelin 28 күн бұрын
Up next, the "True Believer" edition for 500$. Spawn in with the bosses as allies, kick players from the server if you don't like them. Start with no head-eyes and head-ears hitbox!
@B_Syde
@B_Syde 27 күн бұрын
$35 is so reasonable for what you get. Especially today. The dollar to entertainment ratio is VERY generous. I still upgraded because this is the game I've been looking for since Rainbow 6: Vegas 2. Even as it stands, I will continue to play even after it "dies". I feel bad for those players who don't have the hardware to run it.
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
You will definitely not be able to play a live service game after it "dies". At least I will be able to play tarkov SP(and coop) on any version with as many mods as I want even if BSG shuts down next week.
@B_Syde
@B_Syde 18 күн бұрын
@@George_Rakkas That's a valid point. I'm sure I'll get my money's worth in the hours I spend on GZW. If it dies, then at least I enjoyed the time.
@deathnz1
@deathnz1 28 күн бұрын
Something not many people are mentioning. Pestily had Q&A. Mentioned things like hardcore/seasonal/character slots and then also new edition to replace EOD thats also better. BSG team rushed out bug fixes and some other things from the Q&A, next week they rushed out the new edition and PVE mode. I dont know if it was rushed and they missed the mark, also doubling down was awful but its not end of the world. Grayzone copied tarkov UI, payment scheme, server setup. Hopefully they allow people to host dedicated servers with some more sandbox type options. There are a lot of flaws that seem like they didn't think about at all. Like most the creativity is copy tarkov. Its 100% a flop in a month. Maybe if the new maps in years are truely impressive people will come back. Also on people paying tarkov a lot early, tarkov kind of did a lot of new things and that made it stand out and why a lot of people wanted to get into it slowly.
@GoNotreDame
@GoNotreDame 28 күн бұрын
I’m thoroughly enjoying the PvE mode and will never go back to Live again. It’s so refreshing not to deal with the cheaters and gigachads and all the bullsh#t.
@seanc6754
@seanc6754 28 күн бұрын
Before tarkov announced the PvE mode that's exactly why I was so excited to play Gray zone.. I'm just tired of the super sweaty tactical bros.. I live in tx and have to deal with the wannabe operators and tactical lifestyle dbags all the time at the range
@Rexhunterj
@Rexhunterj 28 күн бұрын
Noticed how much better the loot is? The devs captured the loot rates and it's all set by default to the same 'default' settings Nikita was using without modification. I keep finding LedX, AESA, etc in all the places the Wiki says they spawn, I don't have to run 30 raids to fine one of each item. The mere fact I can open an air drop and find the needed tank battery is incredible. This showed Nikita has been using match making streams (priority queues) and dynamically modifying the loot tables based on your current quests/hideout.
@boxie13
@boxie13 28 күн бұрын
@@Rexhunterj I picked the game up a couple months ago after not playing for awhile. It was unplayable with the vacuum hacks. Cheaters take all that stuff before you have the chance to find it and leave the game. If you hit the little ~ key you can watch it happen.
@icy6552
@icy6552 28 күн бұрын
PvE is awsome, my friends are actually playing the game with me now and there are no cheaters. win-win
@howiedoodat8
@howiedoodat8 28 күн бұрын
​@Rexhunterj the reason you could never find the high tier loot is because there is at least 1 cheater every raid. You don't see them most of the times because they run straight there then dip so they don't get banned. Most of these issues with quest is because of cheaters. The game is infested with weirdos like that
@HodgePodge218
@HodgePodge218 28 күн бұрын
"We don't have resources to finish the game!" Why the fuck did you spend money on arena I didn't want arena
@TeamKillTimmy
@TeamKillTimmy 23 күн бұрын
I watch new content all the time. I fully disagree with your thoughts on youtube being responsible for the people who live in echo chambers
@DaveA-bi2ux
@DaveA-bi2ux 28 күн бұрын
This podcast only convinced me that streamer servers/loot are real and have been. Edit2: There's no special streamer bits, but we do have private meetings w the dev's, and they assured us, this $250 cash grab ISN'T about the money.
@drcornelius8275
@drcornelius8275 28 күн бұрын
100%
@Tavor57
@Tavor57 19 күн бұрын
wholesome ending ♥
@lobsterpete8632
@lobsterpete8632 27 күн бұрын
I haven't heard about this edition :P
@FilthyPeasantGaming
@FilthyPeasantGaming 25 күн бұрын
Yeah I would tell people to hold off on grayzone. Game got boring really fast on top of all the problems with servers and performance. Just give it a year or two.
@suny1265
@suny1265 5 күн бұрын
6 Months now and i don't care about Tarkov any more. They had 8 Fukin year's and 3 times the budget of Self landing Rockets.
@williamfinucane
@williamfinucane 27 күн бұрын
SPT has been so fucking dope. Im glad to be one who is showing up now after all this
@appleender959
@appleender959 28 күн бұрын
Its pretty obvious they have the server capacity to do it, because what would they do if every EOD player bought the new version that grants access? Or every player, for that matter.
@jordanbauerly8843
@jordanbauerly8843 27 күн бұрын
You miss the 10+ minute queues for the people who bought this already? If everyone who had eod was even playing tarkov proper right now the servers would be taking a massive shit. We see this on wipe day.
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd 24 күн бұрын
​@@jordanbauerly8843 I think it's safe to say a competent studio with ACTUAL Devs would've tackled this problem in mere hours, at this point I'm sure it's simply bsg fault, Helldivers had their server problems fixed within DAYS, EFT had 10 years by now, and _nothing_ ever changed..
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
​@@Schimml0rdI don't think you can compare a game backed by SONY to BSG which is an indie company based in fuckin Russia
@GoombatzGaming
@GoombatzGaming 27 күн бұрын
Y'all gotta respectfully understand that 80% of gamers don't have 8-12 hours a day to play a game like tarkov full of cheaters and pvp chads as we're learning a game. A game like grayzone is a fucking paradise for someone like me. Gave them my 100 tarkov dollars Nikita wanted from me after EOD. Grayzone is a breath of fucking fresh air for such an early access alpha. The game is fucking amazing for the content released. Y'all streamers played the game and gave feedback, you streamers are not the mass majority which is why I have an issue with only you all getting play tests and access to a game like tarkov. Y'all's feedback is not the god answer. Your feedback comes from someone who plays games 8-12 hours a day for a living. Glad they didn't listen to the changes right away and gave the game to the mass majority bc our opinion is the majority. I say this as respectful as possible.
@SonsOfDeForest
@SonsOfDeForest 23 күн бұрын
hell yea. Grey Zone has all the things i love about EFT, with none of the things i hate about it, plus some things i didnt even know i wanted. between GZW and KCD, Czech Republic is making gaming great again all by itself LFG
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
I feel like Grey zone needs a bit more time in the oven. Great foundation tho and they had arguably as good of a launch as one could dream of with BSG shooting themselves in the foot.
@norseman325
@norseman325 28 күн бұрын
Early access games are the onlyfans of games. It may not be the best game but if you pay money you get the illusion that you can actually interact with them and maybe get what you want.
@Kit--_--
@Kit--_-- 28 күн бұрын
You just won the internet. That hit so hard haha
@jamesmt95
@jamesmt95 27 күн бұрын
Grayzone has a horrific gameplay loop
@smiley3495
@smiley3495 28 күн бұрын
Spt is so Fricking good. I'm running 7 mods and some plugins
@riloegaming
@riloegaming 28 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the Flat Earth doc!
@tomaszpzk9791
@tomaszpzk9791 27 күн бұрын
If talking about different types of editions, it can be done in the way old school games did. If you want to allow gamers to support project with more money add some physical souvenirs like an artbook, signed poster, some sound tracks and just some cool small cosmetic that does not affect anything in game. It so simple.
@britzolas
@britzolas 28 күн бұрын
Yeah baby, let's go
@FrAsSBrAsS
@FrAsSBrAsS 28 күн бұрын
i dont have this because of KZfaq No Context 1.0 extension and its perfect
@Illumian84
@Illumian84 27 күн бұрын
You know what my biggest issue with Grey Zone Warfare is right now? Its that I kinda want to get the $100 version specifically to support, but am pretty sure that dealing with the shortcomings of the $35 version is gonna be more fun.
@DeltaTeamTimmy
@DeltaTeamTimmy 26 күн бұрын
I bought the 35$ edition for the same reason and I enjoy the smaller container and stash size as a challenge and keeps me from hoarding things
@Illumian84
@Illumian84 25 күн бұрын
@@DeltaTeamTimmy yeah, basically the only think I actually find myself wanting from the other editions is a suppressor and variable optic to start with
@jicologo941
@jicologo941 27 күн бұрын
Sometimes it take 5 minutes to start loading a online raid , they simply never had enough server infrastructure
@jerryjuutalainen1783
@jerryjuutalainen1783 26 күн бұрын
If any grayzone dev is listening to this if you ever implement any of Jessy's suggestions do it only in PVP mode. Also add more stuff to lower lvl traders! :)
@TabooVector
@TabooVector 27 күн бұрын
my m8 that bought the eod game 6 months ago and got the stash upgrade last month got pve last week me that had eod for 4 years and upgraded from standard tru all the editions (because of funds ) still waiting.
@OJoseFrancisco
@OJoseFrancisco 26 күн бұрын
The lucky one was DamnedDevils that passed away thinking Tarkov was perfect.
@yellowsaurus4895
@yellowsaurus4895 26 күн бұрын
I certainly hope you guys will drop betterhelp as a sponsor, now that it's come out that they were selling user information to companies like google and facebook.
@OldManBadly
@OldManBadly 28 күн бұрын
BSG screwed up on Arena by making it too tied to the original game, including that the settings were common between the two games. It made it incredibly hard to think of it as a separate product. They should have made a nice stand alone launcher and stand along everything else, and made it a stand alone product for real. Instead, they integrated it like a DLC into the launcher, they started to make steps towards integrating some level of skills to go from one to another, and make it very clear that it was exactly the definition of a DLC. I still think that BSG is hurting financially from that one. Arena was suppose to be a way to bring in literally millions of fresh new dollars from the existing player base. They borked it so badly. So for me, the Unheard Edition was another attempt to make back that lost money. Nobody wanted or needed another version EXCEPT BSG. There was no lineup clambering for more anything. There was nobody going "damn, I need a thing to make scavs ignore me" or "calling in my friends to beat up people killing me sounds really like a great feature". Nobody asked for it, it is solely BSG trying to create some artificial value to justify a $250 price tag and a $100 upgrade for EoD players. It failed hugely. The facts are that people just rolled their eyes and moved on to other things. The player base over the last 10 days has eroded pretty quickly. Twitch streams, viewer count, and hours watched is dropping... and well, yeah, GZW certainly is the surprise competition at this point. BSG opened up something that didn't need to be opened up, and the only reason seems to be money. I haven't played since, after 4 plus years I am happy to move on to other things for now. Maybe BSG will save this one from the abyss, but they didn't have to dangle it over to see.
@middleclassthrash
@middleclassthrash 28 күн бұрын
I support this content.
@bankleaks1217
@bankleaks1217 27 күн бұрын
I don't think 99% of players computers can handle spinning up the PVE servers locally. But that's also BSGs poor optimization. If anyone plays SPT running the game server with AI locally really tanks FPS.
@christians7706
@christians7706 28 күн бұрын
To much talk for few points, but still the best podcast about it so far.
@Match0Man
@Match0Man 23 күн бұрын
1:38:50 GZW devs knew upfront what BSG are planing to add, so they had some time to prepare for the mess, I know it for sure :)
@Daiga22
@Daiga22 27 күн бұрын
Dont remember who sad that: Haw you can sell/release additional content for game that is not released yet?
@NathanWienand
@NathanWienand 28 күн бұрын
Frankly SPT-AKI with the MPT mod allows you to play on your own "Server" apply mods and play with friends... so they've already lost in a way , but are doubling down anyways. I think they have realised it - and hence the huge price of unheard to try and grab all the money before it's all over.
@ayuminor
@ayuminor 27 күн бұрын
They straight up gave EOD owners a demo for unheard haha. Trying to play the card that was mentioned last week: people who can afford to splurge on EOD could probably do it again on Unheard.
@witpickles
@witpickles 27 күн бұрын
I'm meh about the final state of the Unheard/EoD debauchle. I've swapped to SPT, and I've never had more fun playing tarkov. I suggest anyone who's not super competitive or has terrible aim to try SPT. I will likely return to EFT on 1.0 release or once I get Kappa on SPT(which basically is impossible for me on live).
@Avel_runner
@Avel_runner 27 күн бұрын
holy shit Veritas did the *thump* and *fuip* sounds so well lmao how did he do that?
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd 24 күн бұрын
Brio the thump was UNREAL
@upholsteredhero5216
@upholsteredhero5216 27 күн бұрын
There are cheaters in every single raid which would require well over 10% active users to be cheating. For these games with loot extraction your looking at minimum cheaters being well over 25% if we include party/teams where 1 player is cheating. But usually it ends up with over 50% of the active player base will be cheating. Dark and darker is a great example of this.
@danielsuarez8647
@danielsuarez8647 27 күн бұрын
I honestly don’t understand how they can feel that we didn’t give them enough money. We aren’t responsible for their incompatibility to finish the game 🤷‍♂️ it’s not our thing they supposed to finish the game for the money they get how they can ask for more now it’s a miracle to me
@nukesone3097
@nukesone3097 27 күн бұрын
Please go back to playing and streaming tarkov, I love the game and enjoyed your tarkov content
@Gingerking_45
@Gingerking_45 28 күн бұрын
im going to get shit on for this but i got the UHE before anything was changed for EOD user and when i would load into a raid in pve as pmc and as scav max time 40mins every time now its only normal 20-25mins AS A PMC and as scav (normal)
@joethomas9926
@joethomas9926 23 күн бұрын
28:00 the only reason i can think they host it on their servers is because the code is SO fucking heavy for the AI that it wouldn't run well on local machines. Because I can't see why an offline PVE raid would ever need servers otherwise.
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 18 күн бұрын
If the stats, inventory, stats,level etc if your PMC where saved locally it would be super easy to change the values and basically play pve modded-edited in the official PvE servers.
@joethomas9926
@joethomas9926 13 күн бұрын
@@George_Rakkas not a bad point but I'm almost certain theres alot easier ways to incorp this with an offline raid structure just using parameter checks each side of a raid (or if god forbid they had a competent anti-cheat). Tbh although its not the best response, it also kind of doesn't matter? You're only impacting your own personal experience (or at most you and your friends) not that of others, I think they're running up massive bills for no reason
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