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@@AG-ur1lj ahh yes the classic, losing player comes to a comment section and pretends he's a winning player. Sad

U gotta play more instead of "learn" more

And always are there some fool with 0,1% of luck and river always be that one card for him. I can be pro but there is always some fool that calls you all in with 6 9 suitedand hits three of kind orsometh8ng better against your KK or AA

I thought people would just understand this before even learning poker. It's like just looking at a balance and telling if 1 side outweighs the other

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yessir

In pokerstars +ev also depends on if you have the bigger stack 😂

I installed 4 days ago and after a few tables I could tell something fishy was going on. People getting rivered all the time and beautiful hands (straights, flush, full house). Betting with a set was really scary.

When the Jokerstars RNG chip goes into Entertainment mode!

@@9charlie84 First of all, I've been playing for years and never saw something about a badge. Second of all I've cashed over 60k and know some other good players that have cashed more than that so you probably just suck at the game

cenifh are you sure that you didn’t play 6+ hold em?

Tony England lol no joke

The maths in poker isn't that hard because more often than not you are dealing with the same scenarios over and over again and in most cases the math has been done for you elsewhere. Very rarely do you need to do the math at the table, most situations should be covered in your study away from the table, and when you are at the table it's more about feel based on the theory you've learned away from the table.

+Tony England I see you replied to this, but your comment has disappeared, but I can read it from my email, do you still want a response?

24magiccarrot I would like to talk with you more I want some poker friends :)

@@24magiccarrot I realise this is a very late reply but yes, I'd love a response. I have no idea where my comment went!

Yeah, good luck getting out your computer during a live game. This is only for people who play online and, even then, it's kind of stupid.

David ummmm... no, just fucking no.... holy fuck, please don’t breed...

@@chrisgolden1162 No Chris! We want people like him at the poker table.

David whale

@@renoraider9817u not fooling anybody, your not a winning player. Get a life

I’ve always started small, begin with 10$ betting tables and keep that money there slowly growing and occasionally take money off it if you need to buy something (assuming it’s reasonable). If your money collapses then you only have to spend 10$ to try and rebuild it

This is why BRM (bankroll management) is key too =)

Without an understanding of Bankroll management you just wont make it, you can be the best player on the planet , the Lebron of poker , you will mizerably fail!

True. That is reality. But with the knowledge of odds, we can instinctively understand correct plays and this gives us an edge over this that do not even consider these mathematical principles.

Yes. But this video makes a great explanation of what EV is in a single instance against random villain's range.

Which is exactly why if you can study and master this, you're gonna make some money

@@Drew_Guitarist Gday Drew, thanks very much for pointing that out. I'm rec player with ambitions of going pro in two years from now. At one stage I was thinking just get better at reading people's ranges, then I won't need to rely on EV calculations as I can simply choose correct plays. Yes, this will give us an edge! Cheers

If you practice this equation at home hundreds of times, I promise, you’ll be able to do it in seconds. Hardest part is memorizing equity for the hands you place them on during a live game. No calculators allowed at the table. I’m no Rainman, but I believe it’s possible to memorize equity if you’re tenacious enough.

Thanks Jack!

+JP Foster thanks JP!

Thanks Scottyt

Thanks Reborn!

+Cheryl Means thanks Cheryl!

You can't. It's just a framework for reasoning. If the person is an idiot or overly aggressive it can throw things way off. This is just a baseline. First hand I had today some idiot went all-in with k9o pre flop and he was on my left. I backed way off until he was gone. I knew that any hand I played he could just dump all-in and I'd end up in some 55% to 45% situation and stand a good chance to lose. But until someone exposes themselves by their actions, it's a good place to start. Those elite guys mix it up like crazy, fold well and bluff well. Even some of the people who just play for $10 to $20 are pretty good.

McGavel1 You're very welcome!

You're very welcome Kia!

Cheers!

Elly Rust watching you oppenents play for a while will help you understand their ranges and tendencies. With practise you can become more educated on good (+ev) or bad (-ev) spots.

I read that most of the range vs range stats studying happens off-game, also in more common situations experienced players will simply "know" a play is good EV because he/she has run into it countless times

You're very welcome Thomas!

Regardless you wanna make the most optimal play though

+Beer-Grinder thanks!

you look ugly. but to answer your question if you study this stuff outside the session then youll find spots where that studying is applicable. nobody calculates their actual EV. you guesstimate based on opponents range, your hand, and the board

@@jbaru1211 why'd u do him like that

You're very welcome Carlos!

interesting

any good resources you know explaining this concept?

For sure! Just play with this free spreadsheet for awhile: redchippoker.com/free-poker-ev-spreadsheet/

You're very welcome Chris!

+MOOOMIX we don't discuss rake a ton because it's so variable and usually not too huge of a factor. That being said, in a 5-10% UNCAPPED RAKE game the rake will bury you. If possible, avoid that game like the plague since it's not long term viable.

You're very welcome!

Chris Cavani thanks Chris! 77+ means a player holds 77 and all pairs bigger (so 88, 99...KK,AA). And KQ+ means a player holds KQ and AQ. If you want to learn more about hand reading, SplitSuit is hosting a webinar on this exact topic soon that you'll want to checkout: www.splitsuit.com/hand-reading-webinar/

Great, cheers!

You are very welcome Tim. A +EV situation is a +EV situation, regardless of whether it's in a cash game or MTT. That being said, in MTTs, SNGs, etc. you do need to consider the one-life-to-live mentality and gauge whether taking a thin + EV spot is best...or if your overall edge in the tournament is great enough where you should pass on a super thin + EV spot, even though it's technically + EV. That's the whole artform of tournament poker...balancing + EV plays with optimal plays given the exact parameters of that stage of a tournament

James (SplitSuit) Very Well Put!! Thanks for your reply!!

Tim H Thanks, and you are very welcome

i know this is old but it's a great question so i wanted to contribute to the debate (even though im no expert). i think that in a tournament the villain would have a way smaller range because he's only got that one chance to win aswell. so unless he's a total maniac he'll probably only go all in with premium pairs

fanicia42 if that's the case (that the range is smaller), the video gives you the tools/formula to plug in that new range and get a correct EV. These videos are all about teaching a framework, and in this case you can just plug in your range assumptions into the math and get your exact answer :)

+Mell Snow you're very welcome Mell. Welcome to the wonderful world of poker!

dont start with this. theres a lot of basics you should learn first. just keep this in mind but dont actually worry about it yet

Care to share these first points of study? Thanks

FK93209 starting hands,position,betting lines,board reading

You're very welcome!

Same math, just different applications 👍

Nic Turuk in short. You’re going to guess. The longer you’re at the table and the longer you play with specific people you can put them on a range of hands, based on their actions, bets and their showdowns. Then you need to know your win % based on the range you put that person on.

No, this is not bs, this is how it's done. If you're playing with some crazy guy with crazy hands like that, you are probably playing with amateurs. It is really hard to play against amateur because the range they are playing is often really wide, and is because of that we have cases like the Hellmuth's "He called me with a Q 10, honey" meme. But as Chris said, if you are playing for a long time with this "funny fcker", you will be able to discover that he plays those hands and because of that, the range for this "funny fcker" will be really wide. But the math is the same. You don't need to believe me, or believe Chris Leung tho. If you need to hear the same thing we are saying, but from a pro, search for Negreanu's tips videos, he post it often.

@Marek Mega that's why you always raise in preflop, keep away the limpers!

@@mathiashls link the video

Based on where that player is positioned at the table.

Lastellaofficial You might want to watch this video first: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kN2VipST0s-9fIk.html (since it dispels the focus on "protection bets")

I would just study away from the table than plug it in at the table. There are plenty of charts and sites to use if you want to know what the optimal strategies are for each spot, and look at enough of those and you'll get a decent idea of what your equity in the pot is and what your general strategy should be. I dont have every spot memorized but I have a rough idea of where I'm at and my guesstimates on my EV normally fluctuates between 5% and 10% from my actual EV in hands that get to showdown. Big thing to remember is this is a Basic EV formula. A standard EV formula should include fold equity, which means how much money you make when your opponent folds. Equity in the hand does matter, but remember that equity assumes that when called no more betting occurs, so while at the time you only own 43% of the pot it may increase or decrease based on what cards come out, so if you can get your opponent to fold their equity and you know you can get them to fold at a frequency that is profitable it is sometimes plus EV to bet even if your Equity is awful like 24% My suggestion for a decent site to get started on is PokerCoaching.com since it has the basics and the advanced should you want to go that far

@@wesleykim1758 thank you brother massive help

Deependra Vikram thanks!

Practice between sessions so that you can estimate better in real-time. There isn't really any other way ime.

Only money you've previously put in the pot gets included in the $W. Money you have not previously put in (like the $11 in this example) would only get accounted for as risk and not as reward. I hope that helps!

With lots of off-table practice you will begin to get a good internal feel for Equity. But you can also use the 4/2 rule to estimate equity when drawing...

From what I understand, and I'm very new still studdying, is that you generalize your opponantes range and memorize the odds of a handful of generalized ranges and go from there. Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I have no clue what I'm doing haha. With experience you might note down a few hands and how they were played to later put them in a solver which might be helpful if you face the same situation again.

Their stack, table position and past behaviour are a good start.

What kind of sandwich they had at the table and how loosey goosey they were eating it. The more loosey goosey, the bigger the range.

U just see what hands they win with . Because a person who always wins win aces will always bluf a few times u just gotta catch em on the bluff lol

Maybe yes maybe no, because nome of the flops doesnt have tie

Most certainly! Equity is a huge element of MTT decisions

The Fish you'd want to get familiar with the advanced EV equation to calculate a spot where there action isn't complete yet: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9NhapplpqmZh6s.html

The Poker Bank Thank u so much!

Folding would be the *safe* play, but it's easy to slide into being far too nitty.

@ThePokerBank But we are calculating these numbers in our head, and we are estimating the percentage change of winning [by estimating the range of hands our opponent will play], What if we are off by 3% in our calculation (which is not too far off for an estimate); now the EV is minus 17 cents (.45 x 13 = $5.88) - (.55 x 11 = $6.05). At the beginning of our poker playing career, can we really be expected to nail down [i.e. estimate our change of wining] the chance of winning with less than a 2% margin of error, so that we know when such a close bet is profitable (+EV)?

Yes. Am example would be if you're big blind in a SnG, and the very first hand every single player goes all in. Even if you have pocket Aces, almost guaranteeing 2nd place and it's corresponding prize might be better than calling. One reason would be to limit variance, and another could be if the prizes are somewhat flat.

What is of highest concern?