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If the conversion from risk/reward ratio to percentages is confusing to you, you can skip it. I've never used the ratio and always go right to the percentages by using the "rule of 2 and 4". The rule of 2 and 4 as I use it: CALL ALL-IN ON THE FLOP: multiply the number of outs by 4 and add 1. CALL ALL-IN ON THE TURN: multiply the number of outs by 2 and add 1. So you add the call to the pot and calculate/guesstimate the percentage of that call. Then calculate card %% by using the rule of 2/4 and compare the two. So the example pot odds from the video, My call would be: 24. Current pot: 65.50. Total would be: +- 90. (No need to be exact) 24 out of 90 is slightly more than 25%. (since 25 out of 100 would be exactly 25%. Guesstimating will work fine) Open ender, all-in on turn: rule of 2/4 with 8 outs on the turn: 8*2 +1 = 17% That's clearly less than our "slightly more than 25%". So it's a clear fold. Same call/pot situation with a flush draw on the turn? rule of 2/4 with 9 outs on the turn: 9*2 +1 = 19%. Still fold. Gutshot + flush combo on the turn? 9 + 4 - 1 = 12 outs (one of the gutshot outs is also a flush out, we don't want to count that card twice) 12*2 +1 = 25% Still fold. Open ended + flush combo on the turn? 9 + 8 - 2 = 15 outs (two of the straight outs are also flush outs) 15*2 +1 = 31% Call. It's +EV. But don't be surprised when you lose. Open ended, all-in on the flop? 8*4 +1 = 33% Call. It's +EV. But don't be surprised when you lose. Open ended + flush combo, all-in on the flop? 15*4 +1 = 61% Call. It's +EV. You even have a good chance of winning the pot ;p As you can see, it'll hardly ever come down to the exact number like 26.8%. Doing a rough guesstimate like this will work fine in the vast majority of cases. Btw James, I mean to give an alternative to people who have a hard time converting ratio to percentage, not to criticize your video. I love your videos, they're great!

This topic really brings out your enthusiasm

Thanks, it took me a while to find an understandable and clear video with this information, you even said stuff I didn't know I need to learn. Thanks

Just want to say that I just got back from vegas and was up $500 and placed third in a tourney after re-watching some of these videos as a refresher course. Thanks again.

Love the video and I learned some new.But to calculate the pot odds much simpler, I simply divide the whole reward with the risk. If the full pot is 1500 and you are asked to call 500 it's simply 1500/500 = 3Which gives you the pot odds of 3:1 A quick way of understanding the ratio is simply by switching the two numbers around, so that the "1" is always to the left and keeps unchanged and you just add 1 to the right side.3:1 = 1/4 = 25%2:1 = 1/3 = 33%1:1 = 1/2 = 50%

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Thank you! Didn't understand a single thing but I'll keep watching more and I'll understand better. So thank you for your channel

Great video best poker video i've seen so far!

Amazing, playing poker since so many years and now I know pot odds

Great video, mate. concise and made things simple. cheers

James...You do a great job with these videos. Easy to understand and very helpful. Thanks for posting them.

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Thanks a lot. Learned so much - You are Heaven sent

So when your calculating your pot odds post flop if you are calling on someone who raised you , you dont consider the money you put in the pot right before his raise nor the money you put in the pot preflop as part of your invested odd? That prior money you put in only counts as part of the winnings part of your odd ratio?

Very helpful video. Thank you

Great video!

@momo Pot odds do help you decide if a call is going to be good (profitable in the longrun) or bad (losing in the longrun). You simply compare the pot odds you are getting to your % (or percentage of winning the hand) to see if a call would be good or bad. This is particularly useful when drawing and calling preflop all-ins...but it applies a ton of the time

Great video really really helpful

PokerStars: "I have KK, villain has J2. My odds -- minus 3,000 per cent."

@MrStevie57 The probability of a flush draw hits flush in the turn card is 9/45 = 20%, so the odds of NOT doing a flush are 80/20 or 4:1. So for 100 flush draws expect to hit 20 on the turn.

Although it's not needed I think a video dealing with odds could be helpful as most people are more used to percentages. After practicing this concept recently,I see why most people use odds as it's easier to calculate in real time. The math is much easier when you deal with one form of numbers, The challenges is that it's easier to calculate pot odds in terms of Odds, but it's easier to calculate card equity in terms of percentage, based on the four two rule.

the 98s hand if using EV and his range includes small pairs,aces suited, broadway cards, on the button bringing the equity to 24% that would mean the call is correct?

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Awesome vid!

Very clear video. Thanks!

Also keep in mind negative implied odds wherein you might have TPTK but no flush draws. You can bet but you're more likely to lose by the river and more likely to get called by someone chasing the draw, so less fold equity.

Hey man love your videos. It makes sense when you do it but when i try to apply these concepts elsewhere they get me reall confused one example would just be for and equity calculation board: 4sKs3h hero: As5s villan: Kc3 so in this case we get 12 outs to win but here its different bc if we take 47/12 we get roughly 25% however and odds calculator give a win % of 44.6. meaning the closest thing to this would be using the rule of 4 and 2 but even with that its a huge 3% diffrence. So idk how to di it even while using your examples

im a bit confused I understand the math and all I just don't see how this helps you decidec to make a play or not ? is pot odds a way to decide if its a smart choice to call that what I understand it to be if so why do percentages matter ex. if the pot is 175 and the guy calls 200 and you really don't have good cards ur gonna fold so when would you use pot odds ? thank you

Hi James. I'm pretty sure this is correct. But instead of calculating the ratio followed by the percentage, I can calculate percentage directly by dividing the amount to call by the total going into the pot including my call, e.g 40/160 (80+40+40) = 25%. Simples ?

Thanks Poker Bank "score"!!

How do you factor the rake? can you do a video on pot odds involving rake?

Hi. Nice video. Tx. Now, minute 1:57 that example it's -ev. If we put the oponent range on TT+, AKs, AKo do you have a 31 % equity not 43%

I'm pretty new to this so please don't be too harsh in my if this is a dumb question...but do you ever include overs as "possible outs"? For example - if I have KQ and the flop comes J 10 2 - is there ever an opponents range where I'd include my KQ as 6 more outs in addition to the open ended 8 outs? Thanks for any advice!

I don't fully understand this concept because intuitively it seems that i risk more then the amount i need to call because im already invested in the pot. Some percentage of the pot is my money so the reward is smaller then the pot + current bet. So the reward should be smaller in the equation but i don't know im confused because in this case i'm not risking the money already invested in the pot when calling but im going to lose my money already invested in he pot if i'm not calling or reraising.

so ... I do risk/(risk + reward) and take that ratio and do it again?

When you are calculating odds preflop and your up against one person in this hand. But there is 6 people seated at the table do you go by the 6 player equity or the 2 player equity for that hand?

Great video! But isn't this math just assuming that there's no chance of eliciting further bets on the river? If we make our straight (using say a 10 of hearts so there's no flush possible for our opponent), we can likely get some more money into the pot. So shouldn't consider calling the turn even with slightly negative EV? (In this example it's a clear fold even still, but you get my point)

Well, im bit confused. You said your odd are 3:1 and it gives you 25 % but when i calculated what is the % of your investment it come to this: 40$ out of 120$ is 1:3 or 3:1 whatever you put first. So, for me 1/3 of 120$ is 33.3333333333% so tell me, how could it be possible for you to come with a 33%. Im trying every possible math combinaison exept your 1/(3+1)=25% dose not represent 40$ out of 120$...

I got it! Just take do the formula ......add risk + reward first....then divide that by risk....as follows.....add 33 + 53.50 = 86.50....then divide it by 33....that equals 38% pot odds

Can you calculate the percent of the pot odds without actually finding out the ratio? And then see if its < or > the equity. I assume that would require less math am I wrong?

So am i supposed to memorize equity vs different ranges or have equilab open all the time?

Good vid

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Do players ever consider their previous failed attempts/plays when factoring a decision. There are probabilities during play but if you haven't hit a 25% call in say 6 of 10 current attempts? Or if your pocket pairs have hit trips 3 consecutive times you're bound to go on a not hitting skid? Just curious.

Thank you so much for this video! You explained it very well. You’ve got a new sub

So to make a correct call, my equity/chance of winning has to be equal to or higher than the pot odds ?

how do you get an estimated equity? is it always your outs x2

@ The Poker Bank, In the second example, don't we need to estimate how often we will get paid when we hit our hand on the river, and how much you can get paid to determine your true equity? Maybe this was intended to be just a basic intro to the topic, which is good, your videos are great.

Where does the 2.6 come from at 2:13 ??

Hi The Poker Bank . I don't understand how to calculate from a 3:1 on the flop to win, to my % ratio to win. Could you explain how i do that kind of calculate, thanks!

I really had no idea about how he got a percentage or a ration out of that. I used the calculator and did 33/33 +53.50 and got back 54.5 percent? I give up I've been doing it for two days, I'll stick to theory, but I'm more confused now with that 1.6 to 1 haha. Thanks for the videos though their pretty good. Anybody know any other videos where they explain how to get their equity like 1.6.1? Google isn't doing a good job?

Great video

how does one calculate their hand strength preflop? like your Ace King without a calculator at a live table?

for the example with AK pre flow how did you decide to do1/2.6 to get the equity %

One last thing, maybe I'm making things too complicated, but there must be a way to link the concept of pot odds,what do you think you're opponent has, and bet sizing. Or are you just better off guesstimating

Kind of a dumb question, how do you calculate how much % your hand has. Is that just something you memorize with counting outs or?

I have a question. Say you have 15 outs. A flush draw and two overcards. When I insert this in a calculator, it gives me a 50 % equity in an equity calculator. but it gives me 30 percent equity once I miss hitting my card on the turn. How is this possible?

I get most of this but I'm confused on where you got the 2.6 from ?? Can you help with that part ?? Just not sure why that specific number?

i stuck with overbet spots. Let's say opponent bets 200% pot (two pots) .Like in example the pot is 80, so he bets 160 to 80 .According to the formula it's 160 / (160 + 240) = 0,4 or you have to be right 40% to break even . Is that correct ? i mean at the same time when we're getting 2 to 1 ( if opp bets pot on the river ) we have to be right 33% so isn't it 33% * 2 than ,witch means we have to be right 66% of a time when we're calling 2 pots size bet on the river ?

What is the 4/2 rule?

Hey poker bank im not that good at math do i really need to do all this mental math and percentage stuff to win?

what about implicited pot odds, that will convert EV- moves into EV+ isn't it?

Hi, like this vdeo, and got another more confusing math question: how did you calculate odds 4 the next street usually? like, u getting enough odds to call on the turn, but u feel you going to pay them off their value bets, and at the same time call all their bluff, and if some flush or streat card fall, u decide to fold. How to calculate whether I should call to see the river or not on turn 4 such situation? i ask this cuz sometimes i call the turn pretty easy consider the math, and all of a sudden, villain bet big the river and the river odds become unfavor so i fold which made my turn call -ev, even though it is +ev at that time on the turn, but i know u cannot have ev when u call turn and fold river always. I believe most low stake player have experienced similar situation before, hope u could make a video about such situation

i was looking at some charts and say for a flush draw (9 outs) its says flop to turn your odds are 4:1 and flop to river 2:1.this has me a bit confused.whats the turn to river odds so?so if someone shoves the flop you have 2:1 to hit your hand?

I understand everything you're talking about but when you say 2.7:1 turns into %27 equity, how did you get that number?

Thanks for video, but based on my experience pros mix EV betting with bluff, so mathematically you should always fold. Poker is more than just math but math helps when playing amateurs!

if i have flush draw on the flop. the pot is 600$ and the bet is 300$ so i have to call 300$ to win 900$. so the pot odd is 3:1. i have 9 outs. in this case 9*2 = 18% ==> 4.5:1 so i should fold my hand cz odds>pot odds. if its all in on the flop it will be like this 9*4 = 36% ==> 1.8:1 so i should call cz here the odds

Help me someone. The first example is 1.6:1 pot odds. I get that.....but then u convert that to 1:2.6 which is 38% I get that as well. But y in the second example 2.7:1 not 1:3.7 like the first example which would mean 38% equity not 27%?

I like it, but now I gotta find put how to calculate equity!

@ around 3:18 the pot is 65.5 and you need 24 to call and come out with 2.73 : 1 on a call. Shouldn't you be adding your call to the pot to get 3.73:1 on a call? The answer is still fold however it is much much closer.

On the first equation how did you arrive at 1.6 to 1? When I do the math of the $33/ [ $33+53.50] I arrive at 2.6 to 1 only if I directly divide $53 by $33 do I arrive at 1.6...Can you clear up the process in how you are doing the math equation, that is my biggest problem cause at the table I would look at the $33 call on an $86.50 pot as a little over 2 to 1 odds..not 1.6 to one..Then when you go to figure the % you go with 2.6 to 1, where did you get that from?

Thanks

I got lost of the equity point! i am confused when you sya we need 25% to break-even. I am newbie on poker so Iam still learning the jargon!!!

A interesting idea i recently heard from my friend about poker math: he told me no matter what u win rate or odds u getting when u bet or call pre-river is irrelevant, IT ONLY MATTERS whether the river is mathematically +ev or not, if u have a +ev on river, the whole hand is +ev. Is that ture???? it does not seem to me reasonable that i got 23 air and call flop 10 dollar, turn call 20, river pot is 60 and i pot river getting 50% fold say, will break even, i spend 90 dollar on this, and if i win, he only put in 30.... THAT SAID, if u think about, like u got 40% equity pre- and getting 4-1 and u called. only one thing will happen after the preflop calling which is having a flop where the risk or reward did not materialized yet, and when u made decisions on flop, the risk reward change from 4-1, so how does that multiway work?

2p06 so complex, call 33$ for 86$ total, need 33/86 equity ~ 38%

My head hurts!

3:18 shouldn’t that be 3.7:1 or am I doing the math wrong? Someone help me I’m high.

This is a very good video, but I feel that you should do you should make a video on estimation,

So why on the 3:1 pot odds did you have +25% equity on the call for plus EV and on the 2.7:1 you needed 27% to be plus EV? Shouldn't the 2:7:1 be around 22% if your using the same logic? Sorry trying to get my head around it.

The one thing that doesn't make sense to me is the concept that, if the current pot is $40, and we have to call another $20, I know in terms of poker, the money in the pot is no longer ours, however in terms of profitability, we are already down $20 so far in this hand, therefore, even if we call another $20, technically we are only going to win half of that pot i.e $30. (assuming heads up, i.e what you put into the pot isn't profit) So looking at raw win-rate, we are betting $20 with a 40% chance of winning $30 (net), which is not mathematically worth it. The only reason I mention this is because the way everyone seems to teach pot odds doesn't really consider the loss, just the win, which makes me believe that you would need 2x the actual reward as stated to make the call worth it? Or does this system generally just ignore the money you have already put in, as you have technically already lost that?

He said to memorize some of the common ones, like 2:1 needs 33+% equity. Where can I find a chart of the basic ones? All I can find are charts of pot odds, but nothing about equity.

What is the correct rule some sites say 4 and 2 the others say 2 and 4 i am comfuse

Why, when calculating outs, is no allowance ever made for the likelihood of some outs already being in other players hands? Since in a full-ring game nearly half the deck is already 'out' it must be a reasonable assumption that on average almost half of all your outs will be also?

I thought Equity meant if you already have X percentage contributed to the pot, then make the call. So on the 4:40 mark, if you've contributed at least 33% to the pot on the 2:1 odds, then make the call.

This is a solid, well produced video, but buddy ... it was a little too fast.

This is a stupid question I'm sure but why isn't your call calculated in to pot odds. If the pot is $80 and someone bets $20 the pot is now $100 but if you call you get your money back so aren't you risking $20 to effectively win $120?

oh basically you compare the percentage that you will win the pot against how much your risking for the reward. if how much your risking to gain is higher than your percentage of winning the pot is too great, then it is not a EV+ call

A workbook with all this stuff might be useful.

How did you come from 1,6:1 to 1/2.6 =38%...(2:13) Can SOMEBODY explain that.

So now that we've discussed the odds, what about the evens?

So when I say I have to call 20 to win 60 I'm not getting 3-1 but instead getting 4-1?

In that second hand, you might have less equity than 16% if he's got a flush draw. Then you'd have 12%. Either way, drawing against small stacks is dumb.

1:3 pot odds is 33%.. break even is the similar formula... I don't understand the 25% breakeven.

2 things: 1) At 02:10, the calculation reads 33/[33+53.50] but it doesn't explain where the 1.6:1 comes from since the calculation gives you directly the percentage 0.38 =38%. Shouldn't it rather read 53.5/33=1.6 = 1.6:1 or 53.5:33=1.6:1? Am i missing something? 2) Why bother with ratios when the relevant number is the percentage? Why even care about this 1.6:1 when all we actually need is the 38% that we want to compare with our equity? Since it is so easy to convert outs into percentages (5 outs=~10%), why loose time with ratios when we can convert pot odds into percentages directly and easily compare them to our own equity?

I don't want you to be my math teacher.

On the turn your supposed to multiply by 4.

What if my opponent make a bluff and over betting?