Chavda sir is holding back a lot of things to avoid controversies..😝

Damn! So Abhijit is basically saying that Jinnah was more of an Indian patriot than Mahatma Gandhi at least at one point of time 😲

I have always doubt about Gandhi from my childhood. For me I couldn't digest his participation in freedom fighting against British.

When I was a kid, I used to wonder how did we get independence Because it was not clearly mentioned in the books. It just stated several historic events of Gandhi and never talked about actual freedom fighters. And it was always in mind.... " So we just fought on behalf of Britain and they just left, ghanta " 🤷‍♂️

Gandhi was the best policeman the Britishers had in India BRITISH MP ELLEN WILKINSON

Abhijit Sir should write uncensored versions of textbooks.

As a Pakistani our textbooks also follow a certain narrative. They do tell about Jinnah’s affiliation with Congress and his stance for unity but then they quickly mention that Quaid himself got to this conclusion of two nation theory. As you said in the video, in our textbooks there’s hardly anything bad mentioned about Gandhi g. They just mention this big narrative of Hindus vs Muslims and never portray Gandhi G as villain. At the end of day the narrative that Gandhi and Jinaah fought for the freedom is a big exaggeration in both the countries. Reality is Britain was broke after ww2 and they just didn’t have enough resources and power to maintain their rule. So jaaty jaaty b aesi divide ki ha k ub socho to khayal aata ha k is se acha na hi divide karty. Khud Quaid e Azam sahab to 1 saal baad chalay gaey bechary aur hum phass gaey hain because totally 11 people make decisions for us and we have unofficially defaulted.

Everybody here should know that i m not concluding anything..but remember "Gandhiji was a politician first before anything"

Ranveer bhai Shaheed Bhagat singh ji ,Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose ji the Great Humans ke bhi podcast lawo ....🇮🇳

Very rightly said by Abhijitji. People who were considered as real threats were served capital punishments or life threatening imprisonment. We can check the history of such people, 1. Lokmanya Tilak imprisoned in Mandalay for 6 years on sedition charge, far away from mainland. 2. Chandrashekhar Azad martyred in gun fight. 3. Bhagat Singh death sentence 4. Lala Lajpatrai succumbed to his wounds while protesting against Simon Commission was lathi charged brutally by British police. 5. Swatantryaveer Savarkar locked up in far away Andaman prison for life sentence. Why was there no such severe sentence against Gandhiji? He was basically a safety valve to clear discontent in public.

read Gandhis Experiment with Truth . Tumhe pata chal jayega vo kitne bade Mahatma the. Gandhi not just weakened us socially but also he weakened us mentally . This is not land of Gandhi , Nehru this the land of shivaji maharaj , raj rajendra chola , subash chandra bose , sardar patel and Vishnugupta Chanakya

I love how her never says Mahatma Gandhi, instead says Mohandas or Mr Gandhi 🥰

Your assessment of Gandhi is 100% true he was a British agent and tried to make India a slave to Britain It's sad to say that the fault also lies within us because we supported Gandhi more than Bose If we would have fully supported Bose than the current situation of India would have been a lot different in a good way

Indian history have been interpreted by many writers through their own lenses. These lenses might have several motives behind it. So instead of coming to conclusions just by watching 10 mins podcast would be unfair. Keep on reading various books on Indian History and make your own unbiased narrative or I would say gain your own unbiased knowledge

Indian history should be written again. This is important information for all of us

"Gandhi kohi sant Mahatma nehi hain valki ek chatur Politician hain" - Dr BR Ambedkar

What he said about Gandhi is precisely word to word, similar to the foreword of Arundhati Roy in Ambedkar's Annihilation of Caste. Read that, it's a very good piece on the other side of Gandhi. So when Amit Shah called him Chatur Baniya he wasn't all that wrong. He wanted Imperial Brotherhood with the British Army, be an Imperial Brother. He helped the British while they were killing the Zulus. Usmain bhi British ne Aukaat Dikhaadi Ki Bhai Tu Ambulance Chalaa. And Gandhi, supported the Khilafat Movement, because his ambitions were more significant than just being the father of the nation of India, but a Father for all Colonies of the British. He was all about Marketing.

He couldn’t remember a Muslim freedom fighter other than one and how cute of him to start the podcast saying ‘smart banne aaye ho na’😅

Jinnah's secularism is very controversial....He married a Parsi girl and happily converted her to Islam but when her daughter Dina wanted to marry a Parsi man Wadia he opposed that by saying that he is not a Muslim and a Muslim can't marry a Non Muslim....But when Dina asked Jinnah that he too married a non Muslim , her mother then he replied cunningly that her mother converted to Islam

Jaise Gandhiji ne likkha 'I beg...' waise he Veer Savarkar ji ne bhi to 'I beg.. ' likka. But hamesha Veer Savarkar ko hi kyu nicha dikhaya jata hai?

Dusmano ne Bharat ka itna nuksan nahi kiya jitna gaddaron ne kiya hai.

Thanks a ton Mr. Ranveer and Avijit sir. From this podcast I have known and learnt lot of things about Gandhi and Mohammed Zinna. Frankly speaking, for the first time i hear that Sergent Mohondas Gandhi...goosebumps 😲 At a time he was in military in South Africa. Actually this question always hit me and I am also so curious that how did Gandhi come in the super and supreme power in congress than how USA become superpower country in the world.

In champaran satyagraha, which gandhi hijacked to his own political profit it was Raj kumar Shukla a local peasant leader who initiated the movement. He pleaded gandhi umpteen times to join it.Gandhi refused to participate in it Raj Kumar Shukla kept pleading but to no avail. When the movement became widespread Gandhi jumped into wandwagon and later on historians erased Raj Kumar shukla's name from the movement completely and made gandhi savior of indigo farmers.

Chavada sir is a legend in assessing historical facts. He has connected the dots pretty well as far as MG and MJ are concerned. Earlier I used to doubt MG, but now I am 200% sure about his intentions back then.

Then why did Subhas Chandra Boseji call Gandhiji a "father of the nation". Rabindranath Tagoreji called him "Mahatma". I think Patel ji, Nehruji, Khan Abdul Ghafar ji, Rajendra Prasad ji and others did not follow Gandhiji throughout their life blindly. A large number of intellectual people present at that time followed Gandhi why were they blind in seeing these facts or not intellect as we. Today's UPSC board's Ethics paper questions are based on Gandhi's thoughts and his principles and this is not a small thing and the UPSC board is not a fool to guide their aspirants in the wrong direction who play a key role in the nation's development. I may not know much about Gandhiji but I think these facts are enough. I think I'm not wrong but if I'm then I'll correct.

As a student of history, it is awful to see a historian use the "internet" as a primary source for his writings. I can clearly see the ideological bent of mind here. Tells me that he is not a genuine historian. Your views about non-violence and other Gandhian Principles tells me that you're a real shoddy historian if a historian at all.

In my small opinion Gandhiji's one of the major contribution in Indian consciousness was that he taught us find a creative way of functioning with whatever is available at your disposal, yo find in you what can't be taken away, turned down by anyone else, something which you originally posses and take a stance of your rightful duty, like a gentleman without using violence at all. This was unique at the time Gandhi came in Indian politics. People got a fresh start with leader who acts more down to earth than the poorest but whose willpower is stronger than the Empire itself. Gandhiji's policy of allowing the oppressor any opportunity to change his 'heart' is hardly found in any mass struggle of the world. That makes him a true Mahatma. But no one is beyond criticism. A constructive criticism is good always. Thank you

I am from Pakistan. And there is so much we haven’t been told. Why? I have no idea. The idea of partition came from where? We don’t know. We were always put in dark. By the way I follow both of these gentlemen and they are extremely talented. Love from Pakistan

Jinnah was reminded that once when he was in congress he was an ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity. Jinnah said that yes he was once a student of primary class.

ranveer looks like we need to revise our academics,thanks for the information

A great broadcast . Very informative

Gandhi didn't become famous overnight in India, it's his struggle in South Africa that made him famous

Kyun bolege Pakistani gandhi ke liye bura tabhi toh woh Pakistani hai.

Thanks Ranveer sir for bringing such talented people on your show. I like all your podcasts... And hats off to genius mind Abhijit Chavda . I love your duo.

very enlightening talks . thank you very much.

Totally agree with the comments said on Last. We Pakistanis always respect Gandhi and other Indian National Hero's. There is a dire desire in educated youths of both countries to get to know each other, I hope there will be a day come where We can go to Amritsar and eat chola bathora and you guys can come to Lahore and enjoy our karahi''s. Lets Vote for peace and harmony among us.

Everytime sir said Mohandas Gandhi Instead of ‘Mahatma' 😄

Mohd Ali and Shaukat Ali began discussing about the agitation and gandhiji thought that this was the chance of bringing muslims under unified national movement

As a Pakistani American who grew up in Pakistan till 18+, I can tell you Pakistanis are not taught to hate Gandhi or Nehru. Nehru is given a tinge of negativity as compared to Gandhi. They are taught very little about them and what they are taught is fairly neutral. Gandhi's non-violent movement is mentioned. They are taught more about Sir Syed Ahmed Khan than Gandhi for instance. Unlike popular belief in Indian KZfaq channels, Pakistani high school students are also not taught to hate Hindus. Rather they are taught Muslim history in Indian sub-continent in such a way that one starts to identify with that identity. That does not mean one starts to hate Hindus nor was that ever that came across to me. I am generally shocked to see what these KZfaq videos show as to what supposedly Indians believe Pakistanis are taught. Now what they teach the poor in madrasas specially ones established in late 80's and onwards that teach the Salafi version of Islam ... I do not know.

M. Ali Jinnah , he supported the unity , worked for congress but he understood that there are rlly two different nations living in the sub continent, and he understood that the equality he was dreaming of , was not possible. He knew that no matter what he does for this sub continent , he will never have equal rights and freedom, and all Muslims will somewhat suffer , so he left congress and joined muslim league. When i was in junior classes i used to think he was wrong, we were all humans , we could've lived together happily but as time has passed my point of view has changed and i believe he was right

Who knows ,maybe Gandhi was an actor on behalf of british govt, to prevent violent uprising and ensure liberation after India was totally destroyed. It all culminated with the knowledge that there was no benefit for the british to remain in India.

If i am not wrong you are saying because jinnah was sidelined after arrival of gandhiji ,he was upset and then joined muslim league But ,jinnah joined muslim league in1913 and gandhiji returned in 1915,(according to known records) so your logic is false, if not then plz provide the dates and source of dates of joining of jinnah 's in muslim league and return of gandhiji

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1. "We won’t be required to sacrifice this colony at least till the year 2050. A few negligible revolutionary incidents may occur due to the agitations launched by Gandhi but nothing more fierce will happen in this country.

LOT Of things missed out like Mr. Gandhi's views changed about the colonial administration and he started his satyagraha movement in South Africa for the upliftment of Indian community in South Africa for next 15 years. And he became popular in India and INC only after his efforts in Champaran Satyagraha and Kheda Satyagraha bore fruits and helped the local community.

The word Khalifa from sir abhijits mouth just made me smile for a sec😂

Hume azadi khoon se mili non violence se nai ..jai hind ...jai hindurastra🕉️🇮🇳

Mr jinnah saw the hatered in hindus for muslims he saw the current mindset way before

Did he mentioned that Hindu mahasabha had allianced with Muslim league...he will never tell.... chronology samjiye

Jinnah also changed his principles after seing violence between hindus and muslims and emergence of hindu mahasabha and it's hate against muslim, he realises Hindus and Muslims can't live with each other in peace after the division done by British and it's agent namely hindu mahasabha and the ideology of sarkaar of raping muslim women in the name of dharma and politics as he mentioned it in his book "siz glorious epoches of indian history",,, After independence several prominent muslim leaders in freedom struggle were removed, don't know why but maybe due to Congress slight deviation to appease the majority and RSS,,,

Thanks for this video Ranveer..

The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) was founded on September 27, 1925, by Keshav Baliram Hedgewar. At that time, India was still under British colonial rule, and the primary focus of the RSS was not to fight against the British colonial government. Instead, its main objective was to promote a sense of cultural and national identity among Hindus and instill a sense of discipline and character through physical fitness and ideological education. During India's struggle for independence, various groups and movements fought against British rule, such as the Indian National Congress, led by figures like Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru, and the Muslim League, led by Muhammad Ali Jinnah. These movements employed various methods of resistance, including non-violent civil disobedience and political agitation. The RSS, as an organization, did not play a prominent role in the Indian independence movement. Its focus remained on promoting its ideology and organizing its members through shakhas (branches) across the country. It is essential to differentiate between the RSS's historical role and the broader Indian independence struggle that involved numerous other organizations and movements working towards the common goal of gaining independence from British rule.

Mahatma Gandhi was curse of India and Indians to and we call father of nation but the real truth is shubhash Chandra Bose ji the real hero of india

Desh bacha gaye nathuram

He understood the Indian pulse very well... Simultaneously his thoughts of peace were good but whether relevant or not is a matter of debate.

Young Jinnah wanted to keep things together, struggled for freedom wholeheartedly. Being in congress and observing things from so close made him turn into the older Jinnah. Except the truth, know the reason... He was an intellectual n a great observer. u can't fool a wise man for long. he knew that before British Raaj Subcontinent was ruled by Muslims also, he realized that the position of Muslims has become much weaker. it's just that he did not want his ppl to compromise over anything.

These are not unknown these are untold.

A podcast about Nathuram Godse ji and his court trials should also come✌🏻

Shallow analysis!

You are doing great work bro

Mahatma Ghandi had many enemys inside and out of India because of the caste system he abolished His enemies in Europe sprung because the British were genius at using the "Pen as a weapon " pay any journalist and it kills anyone faster than a Sword 1*If at all Ghadhiji was a British favoured Indian he will be driving around in a Rolls Royce , invited to every British Function , and would have been titled "SIR Ghandi " 2*Ghandhi was so hated by the British that they employed top journalist to write about him in the worst light 3* They never forgave him for bringing so much scandal and embarrassment to the Monarchy and the British Commonwealth 3*Ghandhi was so educated in laws of the country .rights of humans and he knew they used the caste system as the weapon to destroy India 3* When Ghandhi became peoples leader ,he dared to remain as poor as the masses of that time . 4* No leader could come to this state .He never lived a wealthy life ,he ate food like the common man and dressed like the poorest man 5*Why should he do that as he was a Brilliant lawyer and successful too 6*The British used journalist. and with the powerof the pen KILLED GHANDHI then and these irresponsible wicked biography written by him and against him now surfaces on social media to Rip of a man who died more than a century ago 7 Mahatma Ghandi .Suffered and was tortured in various jails by British for Indians ,Indian rights and Indian assets which was robbed by the British then 8*Its normal for people to fall "HOOK, LINE AND SINKER "for books and articles written by FOREIGNERS centuries ago but its a horrible shame and lack of basic psychological understanding of Human actions to jump into Negative conclusions of anyone for that matter 9* Hitler was the worst enemy of everyone so to fix Ghandhi at that period they pretend he is friend of Hitler and even gets to read a personal letter suposed to be written by Ghandhi to Hitler 10* Child molestation or abuse was a great sin then and now so to cause the scandal Ghandi fixed on the British in India ,they reciprocate with wicked lies in a book supposedly written by him 11* Every useless book on GHANDHI was written by Paid journalist of the British tabloids of that era Ghandhi was too simple and India could not have the paper to write or publish 12*All was published in Britain Indians were happy to use their palm leaves for messaging Fancy. book's, fancy publishers printing all belonged to British 13* Today we know for a fact the ARYAN INVASION . was a farce designed by crooked Authors to give " Intelligence and Superamacy to outsiders not Indians These Authors are being ridiculed and questioned why they distorted Indias History , religious beliefs and allowed European scholars to sponge all the KNOWLEDGE India owned Example Newton is given credit for his Apple theory . on gravity Electricity.magnetism, Surgeries Mathematics .musical notes .astrology ,numerology ,space .vimana, aeroplanes all were researched in India by Indians way before any foreign scholar or scientist 13* There was a need to publicise India and Indians as STUPID AND BACKWARD So the world of Science ,Physics Maths and Biology will never belief it was stolen from India 14* I hope Indians who wish to bulldoze and hammer down India or any Indian leader .Scholar, Freedom Fighter who sacrificed their life in History rethink his or her own mission 15* Be fair as you not only confuse young College Students but educationist too Do a thorough investigation into the era ,the typical stand taken by most countries, the actions and contributions and lifestyle of your subject to arrive at a honest conclusion 17* To recap If whatever said is true about Ghandi ..He would be SIR GHANDI knighted by the King or Queen of England .He would have travelled all around India in Full tuxedo like the Maharajahs and will be seen in a Rolls Royce, living in a home nothing less then a Palace gifted by the British Monarch 18*After Ghandi got independence for India, the British were not allowed to take Indias Textile and natural resources ;gems .literature Books and palm leaves 19* If Ghandiji fits into this Character Assasination FAMOUS writers of India during his time and later would have published the negative Ghandi long before his death ...RamdarSinghDinkar rebellion patriot essaysit Harivansh Rai Bachaan and mother of Amitabh Bachaan was a social activist writer poet Amrita Pritam novelist essayist loved on both sides of India and Pakistan and her books were translated to many foreign languages Suryakant Tripathi Nirala 1896_1961 Essaysit Novelist 20* These writers would have many negative things to write about Ghandi if at all these was genuine material Chinese have a good saying EMPTY "VESSELS MAKE A LOT OF NOISE " Lets be Alert and Proud of India

Difference between young jinnah and later jinnah is Quran He read Quran to become later jinnah

When we see how Muslims are being treated in india, We thank GOD for Mr Jinnah. He saw that coming thats why he changed his views about hindu Muslim unity.

Make a show on Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel too. That way, every one can know “The Grear Iron Man of India”

Imagine going from dedicating decades of your life to Hindu Muslim unity to then becoming the face of Islamist separatism and being the face of mass migration, g/nocide and the horrors of partition. Goes to show that humans are capable of anything when it comes to ego and power. The same goes for Gandhi.

Reading this book Veer Savarkar the man who could have prevented partition. The many hidden stuff about Gandhi is written there. Unbelievable.

Extra knowledge means ( Ranbir Bhai )🌸💕😍

I really like the fact that people are far more curious about the character of a guy who's been dead for decades.. We have enough as"holes here already.. We don't need to go into the history to find some more

भाई हमको कुछ समझ नही आ रहा है, कि ये क्या हो रहा है ? कौन सही ? कौन गलत?

Why they have not speak about Veer Savarkar, bcz without him the 1857 Revolt is incomplete....

Very interesting... Jai Hind 🇮🇳

Jinnah might have secular thoughts in early ages as he spent his some life in UK.but he came to know his true destination after some experiments..

We Pakistanis don't hate indians. I personally have discussed Gandhi & Nehru in my leadership classes. We have no reason to hate indians or think bad about them. We're neighbors who aren't on talking terms.

Abhijit sir is having to add "Ji" with Gandhi😂

Everyone can understand who is the main culprit of India. Hai bhagban , is byakti ne kya se kya kar diya bharat ka....

When Clement Attlee(Prime Minister of UK during British Raj) came to India in 1956 he said that Gandhi's role was minimal in India's freedom.

Exactly I thought the same which chavda sir explained about khilafat movement during my school days.

Educate yourself reading books (not necessarily NCERT, rather the books written by all the schools of thought i.e. subaltern, Cambridge, nationalist or Marxist). But read, give efforts. Only then you will know. Please don't resort to Wiki, KZfaq or FB for knowledge. It will not only jeopardize your thought process but also of others in your surroundings. Please read.

I am in 10th currently and this video really helped me, textbook gives one sided observation. This video was eye opening

4:15 link of that official document

Gandhi,nehru were not freedom fighters.. Even if Britishers would'nt have left,kuch farak nahi padta inko...they wanted dominance.. We wanted freedom 🇮🇳

I started doubting Mr Gandhi when I saw his picture with two girls, which people call shishyas. I taught he had adopted them and they were his duaghters but later I found out it was nothing like that.

He presented one side of history

Source?

Nutshell - " Jinnah was right, Gandhi was wrong"

I hope that he gets an opportunity to meet people who had first hand experience with Gandhi till the time they are alive, As being someone who has been to sabarmati ashram and met people and historians who talk about first hand writings and experience with Gandhi I feel that this is manipulated and far from what he was... Just hoping that he gets in touch with people having first hand experience with Gandhi!

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The amount of sarcasm in this is just awsm

gandhi inside is like "hail hydra"

Sir please make some podcasts with economists......🙏🏻

Please make some video on Subhas Chandra Bose... The exemplary forgotten real hero

It is very easy sir to find online readings that go against the man who stood for Spirituality and Unity. Jinnah was political and ambitious more than a nationalist and Gandhi was a humanist more than a nationalist and knew that hate against anyone would cause strife and further self sabotage.

Okay so, which one of you is a historian, and can prove what your saying is true? you are saying that what we study in our textbooks might be wrong, but are just supposed to believe what 2 people with no proper research(by which i mean a 4-5 year PhD), over the qualified professors who write the NCERT and other board textbooks

Bohat sachi or gehri baty kr gaye app log

Gandhi was the great human being we Pakistani hold him with grea respect. Salute to Gandhi Jee.🙏💓

I think Chavda sir does a lot of research before commenting on anything.. listening to him is like reading many books ..

Textbooks always say that we got independence because of the peaceful protest organised by Gandhi lol seriously British those people purposely created a made man famine in Bengal because of which millions of people died & they didn't care and when they were asked about it they said why didn't Gandhi died & also said that don't worry Indians breeds like rabbits. Those are the same people who did jalianwala bhag massacre and yet Gandhi wanted to gain independence by peace. This shows how cruel they were. Do you really think that they cared about Gandhi going on strike? Do they left India thier looting spot just because Gandhi said them to do so peacefully? No we got independence by blood not by some kind of peaceful protest. Many legends have scarified their lives to gain independence and yet we are still thanking this idiot gandhi for our freedom. Even small kids also had scarified thier lives but sadly we don't remember them now also.

Older jinnah realised while living as a young jinnah that Muslims will Always be sidelined against hindus no matter how bigger the sacrifices they have and would give for India. Aaj current India dekh lain aap, sab aapkai samnai hee hai.

Well said sir