omfg it all comes full circle

That is something that i missed about the message of TTB. Daaaamn. That's so beautiful.

😭😭😭 Omg I missed that!

As a person who lost her dad unexpectedly this gave me closure that i never had this movie i don't know if it is appropriate to say but this healed me a little it healed me through the scene where the father - daughter duo was talking hand in hand i never got that and through this i was able to live that i am thankful for that scene and this movie

@@manupaints1869 that is beautiful ❤️

So true. In Korea there is a literal hierarchy of how you speak to each person specific. Honorific’s is a word that comes through often in K-dramas.

So true. i'm a korean and a mother. My daughter only address me formally when she feels she's being scolded.

Very true

I mean...it's a bit of a yes and no. I know it's becoming more and more common for children in Korea to speak informally to their parents but it doesn't necessarily mean they are close to their family and it sure doesn't mean that a relationship is dysfunctional if honorifics are used. In addition, it's still considered to be respectful if a child speaks formally/with honorific to their parent in Korea. However, it should be noted that if parents want their children to speak formally/politely/with honorifics, parents have to teach by example. As much as I understand the argument for equal standing with children and parent, I also it is also telling that it has become a common notion that using formal speach/honorifics is considered a negative hierarchal dynamic rather than parents being able garner respect from their children organically.

@@msk-qp6fn That’s why I said in most but not all and I did mention that it’s part of the culture to talk formally to others, basically anyone they don’t know. I’ve also weirdly seen more kids speak informally to their parents than formally when I was just visiting. My friends have also gotten to a point where they mostly talk informally with me so Idk lol. That’s just an observation I’ve noticed personally:)

Unless I'm misremembering, the infection time WAS consistent. It seemed to me like the infection had to make it through the bloodstream to the brain to make the person change, so bites to the neck caused nearly instant transition while bites to the hand, leg, etc. caused slower transition.

The rate of conversion is consistent with the location of the bite. If you were bitten in an extremity (like the leg in victim zero), or the hand (like the man in the blue suit and father), it would take longer to convert. For those bitten in the neck area (eg the conductor, etc.), they converted faster.

The assistant died? I mean unless there is a source, it's not really confirmed the assistant died since he hung up the phone and never explicitly stated that he got bit. Sure he could've kept that fact hidden, but unless there's true confirmation, we won't know.

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It also explains the cheerleader and the grandma and how fast they died. Cheerleader girl got bit on the leg and died immediately, when if we're going by how it takes the infection to spread to the brain wouldn't make much sense. The grandma (gongyu's mother) didn't turn until after she called him to know him and her granddaughter were safe. Even the homeless guy was able to hold off being turned until the pregnant woman and the kid were out of danger despite getting bit a lot, like sanghwa. I love it

I was totally expecting a Night Of The Living Dead ending and they both get shot.

Omg i feel you! 💜

That scene absolutely destroyed me too. I was crying so hard that my nose started to bleed

Check out Spellbound. It's a Korean comedy/horror, and it is SO GOOD.

I haven't seen the movie, but just seeing it in the video has me full on sobbing!

I bawl my eyes out every time. That kid acted the hell out of her role!!!

What do you mean random child

@@WritingOwl well to him it’s just some random little girl that he saves repeatedly

What did I say? Perfect man 😌

He is my favorite character

@@WritingOwl The main guy's daughter

I don't know why the bolded part is so funny to me, cos that's _literally_ what he does, but I'm dying over here 😂

You can see this in Sang Hwa early on as well when he is infected and holding back the hoarde of zombies as his final act. You can see the virus/whatever it is starting to take over but he tries to shake it off.

OH MAN!!! How did we miss that!!!

And! He told her to always finish what you start when they were talking in the car about her not finishing the song. So at the end, she finished the song ::weeps::

Crying in the club rn

@@sophietellez you’re in a club?

@@madamepumpkin you aren't?

LOOOOVE THAT

Man! This is why I love learning languages! You get so much more out of media that way! Also it shows how you can use language for nuance in writing.

Yup. So many missing cues like little girl was always formal with her father and breaks down to informal like a baby at the end.

@@sillasaram9121 yes, for sure! I'm not fluent in Korean at all, I just watch a lot of its media. So, I bet there's dozens of more cues that non-korean speakers can't pick up on

@@dominiquedavila6402 Even if you don't want to commit to learning Korean, just familiarizing yourself with the three or four most common levels of formality will clue you in to a lot of interpersonal dynamics in k-media

Or if you believe in an afterlife- they’ll meet when she’s gone. It works both ways and is just as sad either way

IM IN PAIN FROM THIS

Dude im always the one laughing at peoples tears in movies but this one i was just bawling! I could not stop myself and to this day cannot

So many men start fatherhood in awe and in love with their children only to forget how to love. Working long hours every week and dying inside as humans, they leave behind families as zombies, no longer participating in the life they are working for. But they are all willing to die for that life. This whole movie is a journey through the life of men in society and their relationship to women and family.

I know! I was prepared for a horror movie and ended bawling my heart out TTT^TTTT

Isn't it amazing?

@@CinemaTherapyShow It really was

Same.

Nice, Korea has been making some best thrillers and horror movies in the world. It's kinda the norm now that Hollywood will just buy the rights to a Korean film to remake an English version.

Did the exact same thing, it was great

That... is fucking beautiful

Aw... hugs to him, he sounds like a lovely man.

quem?

Came to comment this exactly

It's very sweet of him. He knows I have a hard time with physical touch so he's very very sweet about it and always asks me if he can hug me or even high five me.

@@sophietellez that's so sweet of him! it's good to know he's just as respectful off-camera as he is on-camera! Thank you for taking the time to reply to this comment, btw, you were a really fun energy in the episode! i loved ur points about South Korean media and Train to Busan itself!

@@cecilbenderman6240 He really is great. And thank you so much, i'm so glad you enjoyed it! I'm excited to be back for more!

@@sophietellez i do the same thing with a friend of mine because she has PTSD issues. I have autism so even just for me i am really bothered by physical touch sometimes if im not in the mood for it and i always wished people would ask me sometimes instead of using touch to try to comfort me because a lot of times if im upset im overstimulated and being touched makes me want to crawl out of my skin! so i try to remember to ask others, especially if i know they have issues with it or if they are actively upset in some way, since i know how it can feel even if its not the same thing.

washing hands is symbol of washing away sins or one's relation to something in many cultures because it is our hands that do our work, our tool and our weapon, and the stain stays on it like with every weapon and tool.

That's interesting because in the US it means "hiding guilt", having committed a crime and wanting to avoid consequence. I thought that it was him seeing some guilt or responsibility, but moving on because of a logical understanding that it wasn't his fault and he needed to help the survival effort, not dwell on the past. I like your culture's interpretation better. Mine goes into how good people can blame themselves for things, but yours makes more sense for the scene plus it feels cleaner and more liberating.

This also happened in the bible. When a king (forgot who) knew Jesus was innocent but didn't do anything to stop him being put on the cross (he made the people choose wether to let Jesus go or a serial killer go. They chose the serial killer which resulted in more death, and chaos) after that he told one of the other kinds he will wash his hand if this mess. P.S. I haven't heard this story in a while so my memories pretty vague but basically people "washing their sins off" has been happening since ancient times.

Shakespeare used it too. With Lady Macbeth.

I always say “I need to wash my hands.” After I let my anger get the better of me (for good reason but I don’t know how to tap the breaks when I get started) or I find myself being rude or cold towards others. I do my best to be kind to others, and spread happiness. Even though it’s extremely hard sometimes but the Bible (no I don’t believe everything it says) repeatedly tells you to be kind, spread joy, love, and to be as merciful as our father would be with us.

"To go be a zombie" makes it sound like the zombies are partying and having a good time lmao

I experienced pretty much the same. Hell! I don't even have kids yet, but my parental instincts got the best of me and I started outright wailing! D:

@@beefcupcakes5959 I hate that you made me laugh right now😂

@@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo a little bit of joy even when we're sad can't be a bad thing 😁

I felt the same as a mother. No parent can see that and not feel a knife through the guts.

Here's to hoping they delve into china as well!! ^_

I agree 100%

Speaking of which, they should definitely react to Leafie.

I would love to hear their ideas about Bong Jooh-ho's monster movie "The Host"

@@auldthymer Also his film Mother

completely agree K drama, movie child actors are all amazing!!!!! Heart wrenching performances

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

Also the last line, aloha oe until we meet again....😭😭😭

@@msk-qp6fn Yup. I was emotional through this video, but didn't start crying until that last line of the song.

I know it from lilo and stitch. The last line made me recognise it. I wonder if the logic of the song choice may be because she's a child shed know it from a cartoon

It’s why my first crush was Obi Wan

I get oddly satisfied whenever a character is actually being competent and use their head.

Definitely, I feel it's a sign of good characterization and good storytelling. It's more realistic if the characters are trying to make smart decisions, with occasional emotional ones--not just making questionable decisions to move the plot along. If the characters are being smart and still struggling, that makes their struggles all the more believable.

@@sajoth I always loved in "The Cabin in the Woods" Curt: We need to stay together. Remote Observer: Spray the gas on them. Curt: Wait! No! We need to split up.

YES! And that's why I LOVE Zombieland. The rules are really just things I frustratedly shout at the TV when watching other zombie movies/shows. Watching idiotic characters in movies usually just get me betting on when they're gonna die and actually enjoy it when it happens. Like, ya well you deserve it dumbo.

yeah korea films and dramas, especially the more modern ones, can get really morally ambiguous and bittersweet with its resolutions. no clear cut happy endings

I'm glad I'm not alone. It's such an amazing film.

I started crying in the second clip, when the parents-to-be showed up for the first time.

@@theimmersedreader I was not prepared for THAT death the first time through.

I watched a comedic reaction video to Train to Busan and was still s o b b i n g at the end. That's how you know a movie is good.

Yet not one discussion on this page of how _we_ are all behaving like destructive zombies. Not one.

Just a quick side-note, the reason that the zombies are extra fast and jerky has a lot to do with the way Korean zombies are made. The zombies mostly aren't CG. They're real-life stunt people/dancers who can distort their body in grotesque shapes, and that creates a very realistic and creepy image. And Korea has this culture of "doing everything quickly(빨리빨리)" so the speed of Korean zombies is actually a reflection of that. One more thing, the reason that the military zombies are extra creepy is because Korea has a history of military violence against civilians during the Democratic movement which was a big part of modern Korean history. There is an amazing movie called Taxi Driver(택시운전사) starring the star actor from Parasite which is based on a true story in Gwangju, where the military was sent to Gwangju city and committed huge violence. My mother is a survivor of that encounter and when she saw Train to Busan, as soon as she saw the military zombies she said that the soldiers she saw during that encounter was exactly like that. I really recommend seeing the movie Taxi Driver, it is a very great film depicting so much humanity.

@@user-is6dp7hn9e Appreciate the information and suggestion. Gives another lens to see the film through. Do you know where I could stream Taxi Driver? I'm just learning about the military violence issue due to the problems with Korean reception to a new drama coming out

@@Regmuslima I'm guessing you're talking about the reception to Snowdrop(설강화). It was a huge deal in Korea because that drama actively distorted modern Korean history and was based on the military government's propaganda at that time. I appreciate your desire to know more, thank you. I think Taxi Driver is on Netflix under the name "A Taxi Driver". It stars Song Kang-ho and Thomas Kretschmann.

I have seen many Kdramas that had a divorced mother end up getting back with her ex even though they divorced for good reason. I couldn't understand why they would choose that man (again) over 'the friendly guy who gets along with her child' or staying a happy single mother. I realise these shows make a big deal about divorce, like being unhappy or cheated on isn't worth getting out of the relationship, so I'm guessing like the class system it is still an aspect of Korean reality.

I guess when you see many bad examples of a trope, it makes it much easier to spot good examples. Also, Seok Woo friggin' learns from his mistakes and isn't easily forgiven like so many selfish fathers are in bad fiction! Truly refreshing and heartwarming, even if it breaks your heart! :,)

I literally scrolled in hopes that someone brought that up. It was a small gesture with large meaning.

❤

I was just about to say this as well. Not trying to ignore the film or the many many great points brought up, but it just. It was really really good to hear. I wish more people were like that.

I raced to the comments to talk about this, it meant a lot to me too

I know how you feel!

That movie is fantastic and it broke my heart. I’m Korean and that movie was insanely popular in Korea.

Miracle in Cell no. 7 was fantastic and i bawled watching it with my friends at our class. There was just so many things good about that movie that made it deeply touching and heartwarming for me

Oh i saw this in the theater years ago I BRAWLED

I was looking for a different ovie when I found that one, and i fucking cried so much is was so sad!!

I watched the one in Turkish originally it was the only one i found on Netflix) and I was bawling like a baby

Finally! Someone on the same brainwaves as me! Aloha cousin!

I commented about lilo and stitch but no one reacted to that but seeing this makes me feel seen and validated 😭

Look up the video "How To Not Date a Jerk - Ad" (or something close to that - the words might be in a different order) on Alan's channel Telekinesis Entertainment. I think your boyfriend is covered in the first couple (as the girl though). Glad you're no longer with that guy! 🤗

@@tinaperez7393 thank you, I'll take a look. Thank you for your kind words. I'm much happier alone then I was with him. Speaks volumes to how incompatible we were😁

If you've ever wondered about compatibility in a relationship, watching a movie with apocalyptic elements (edited to clarify: with them) is a great way to get a sense of someone's values. Not saying there's a right way or wrong way to respond, but you might get insight into a person's character. I remember saying that the Tom McCarthy character's death in 2012 was cheap -- I thought he'd earned his way as a character and shouldn't have been so easily disposable. The person I watched it with shrugged and said sincerely that "he'd outlived his usefulness". Later, after that person was no longer part of my life, I flashed back to that moment, and wondered if it wasn't the start to the end. I mean, I've said things I didn't really mean and would be embarrassed if someone reduced my character to a few seconds, but at the same time, life's too short to be with people who don't share your core values.

I want to cry just thinking out it. Just amazing filmography. I also hate that so many of their series make me cry and then I get angry at my husband for making me watch it and get depressed.

@@04beni04 that's exactly what happened when watching movies with my ex. I think I'll start watching apocalypse movies on the first date😂

It’s very sweet. He knows I have a hard time with touching too ❤️

YES! THIS IS HOW THE WORLD SHOULD BE!

The part about that interaction I like the most is that he had already started the motion to touch her, clearly still internally absorbed in the story he was telling. Like, he wasn't even looking at her, his eyes were still in an unfocused far-off daze. But then he quickly recoiled his hand the moment he snapped back to attention, then asked. He didn't just let his hand linger inside her bubble while asking (which would've felt a little disingenuous). He had realized he ALREADY invaded her space and immediately corrected the action BEFORE making a request. I also appreciate how he gave her his full attention when asking for concent to touch. Made solid eye contact with her and waited for any non-verbal confirmations she would've given, then snapped right back into his story once she gave her answer! Just a super cute little interaction that I fully adore! ❤

Jonathan guy was super awkward in this one

I always found MUAs to be such a cool aspect of film. Wish I could do FX

I watched it more than five times and I still cried

i didn't see the whole thing just these clips and i'm sobbing onto my textbooks

I avoid this movie now. Friends ask and i just say i loved it too much. Cant get past that scene without crying

Exactly! To me, that reaction was never rooted in honest fear. Having seen as many zombies as, by then, they had, no one could truly have believed that those people were infected. This was a whole car of people shouting, "I can't have made the wrong choice. You must be to blame. I am justified."

Except then they turn their back on the zombies and make a big stink about locking the vestibule even though the people left voluntarily. Doesn't make sense. I was happy they all died.

@@ccrisc100 People do awful things when they're afraid. Even though I disagreed with their actions, I could understand their fear (for all they know, maybe someone had a bite that was hidden underneath their clothing). What gets me is that none of those people needed to die - the old lady killed them all because she was mad at them. Those people had families too. I hated her character even more than the selfish businessman.

@@chizzieshark totally. You are suicidal or whatever, but did you need to take everyone else with you? Despicable.

@@ccrisc100 just as despicable as them causing the death of her sister and other people, almost including a child and a pregnant woman were they to succeed in holding the door

yep i think it's often mislooked that the evil businessman sacrificed everything and strongly proposed to have the train to busan - not to go to the safe military compound, but to find his mother who's currently in busan. selfish, yes. killed many people, yes. still, a very loving son.

Oh man!

A 100% villain is not as scary as a villain with some humanity. You have no empathy for Sauron. You don't see yourself in him. He's a threat, but a villain with humanity gives a reflection of what you could be and that's more terrifying than anything.

​@@Djorgalfacts.

그는 좀비로 변하는 순간에 '7세 아이'처럼 보입니다. 그는 표면적으로는 어른이지만, 내면 수준에서는 7세에 머물러있기 때문이라고 생각해요.

I fucking LOOOVE Kingdom. Theres' also "All of us are dead" teenagers and zombies. Its pretty good.

Yeah!! It’s amazing!! Please check it out!!! The Korean movies or series that are not romantic are the best, of course there are some romantic ones that are excellent too

Same here, fan of Kingdom! Haven't seen All of us are dead but I'm working my courage to opening the first episode 😂😂

@@rottebarnethellen plus on top of that, I hear it was a commentary on the Sewol Ferry tragedy. Insanely tragic with that knowledge, to see those parallels...

Any series by Kim Eun-hee (who wrote Kingdom) is an automatic watch. Three Days, Signals, Jirisan, she’s just a spectacular writer

By this short performance alone, I can tell she's one hell of an actress! Also, it kinda looks like she had fun being terrifying! :D

👀

I second this

I third this

I FOURTH this! Times seven

very 'gen z in a room of x'ers' energy and you can tell therapist guy is fascinated by the difference she brings

I loved that too. They could have left it out letting us assume she consented before hand, but I am very happy they left it in, a great way to show how it should be part of everyday life. And that even when it's not a sexual thing everyone's personal space needs to be respected. Consent is essential.

i love it too!!

I was like okay nice! But it would be easier just to say 'consent?' But then you also need to clarify what it is you'll do. Never really noticed it being done anywhere casually but this is very nice for those of us who do not give consent for random non-mehram 😅

Yes, that little girl is an amazing actor and I think she even won some awards for this!

this is exactly why i always watch subs!! even if i dont know what they're saying, the original vocal performance conveys so much unspoken meaning

I love subs, but I also know a few people who can't read. (Adults, and yes it's sad and extremely difficult for them.)

YES! Subs ALWAYS (if possible)!

translator notes are not good to have. I hated them, they distract, they are often too long and you have to pause the movie/drama to read them, which takes you out of the flow. I'm a translator myself and there are just things you cannot convey in subs, and people won't understand it even if you write a note on it. A good translator's job is to give a good gist of what is being said, not to educate the viewer about a different culture. if epople are interested, they can google afterwards. and I HATE when people use "oppa" "unnie" etc. in subs. The general population, for example, people who randomly watch shows on netflix, won't understand these terms, as not everyone is a Koreaboo. You have to make it *relatable* to people who never watched anything Korean.

@XIA I understand what you mean although I didn't mind pausing and reading (especially you know when there is a specific jargon and there is text on screen to explain it and before i used to find it's translation in the subs too and it was interesting for me). I meant translator notes about things like wordplay or other small things that means the translator doesn't have to change the joke. I actually don't mind when subs use original terms of endearment like oppa or hyung personally as this is only a bit confusing in the beginning but I get where you are coming from.

Ooh, yes! VERY good comparison. ❤️

Oh goodness, that's such a good show, I BAWLED so many times, I wish they react to that show

Never seen the show but the book was excellent

no this is a great comment analysis and also something i missed (probably a little bit due to my lack of knowing korean)

loved him in W: Two Worlds and Mr. Sunshine

One of the advantages of Train To Busan is that it allows characters to be given enough screen time and purpose to make you care for them/hate them. This in turn made one of the most heartbreaking and bittersweet moments in Korean cinema.

I’m assuming you’ve watched #Alive and Kingdom on Netflix then?

@charminsi unfortunately I still haven't been able to watch Kingdom, I have been planning to though. but I have watched alive and all of us are dead

I HIGHLY recommend Sweet Home. It's a different take on the zombie genre. I can't say what the take is because it'll ruin it but Sweet Home is so good I've watched it three times now. It's on Netflix.

This is why I found it weird that Allan was saying it’s strange to be so sad at the end of zombie movies because all those zombies were people and had lives and families and I think that is such a feeling of loss that we don’t get in other apocalypse takes

Every time. Ive personally seen the movie, but it still stands, that scene can move anyone just by watching it alone. It's been awhile since I've watched the full movie, but still to this day just that scene alone makes me bawl every. single. time.

I think it could have easily been so corny with the all white flashback but he manages to make it so emotional and impactful.

I’ve seen the movie a handful of times and still tear up on that scene. So heart breakingly emotional.

It's amazing. The best zombie movie I've seen. But it's a rollercoaster of emotions

i really hope you watched it

I'm going to be back for Midsommar!

The babadook is one of favs!

Babadook was silly

Uuuuuuhhhhh, Babadook is AMAZING

Maybe I need to rewatch Babadook because it seems, just, really dumb most of the time. And I like brainy slow burn horror! Loved It Follows; not brainy but definitely slow.

The Wailing is another horror that I loved... Bleak. Just so bleak. It was also so long but didn't feel that way for me.

The first two Korean movies I watched (and are still favorites that I re-watch) that should also be included... Miracle in Cell No. 7 (each subsequent time you watch is more heart-wrenching than the last) Man From Nowhere (still hoping Won Bin comes back and does acting again)

Forgotten (amazing twist)

​@@kelseyb1005 wonbin in Man from Nowhere was phenomenal. Couldn't believe he hasn't done much since in the last decade. At least it was a great role!

I've got that last part highlighted in my copy. For those who haven't read the book (though I think everyone should, at least once) here's more of that quote: "But apart from the selection of Capos which was undertaken by the SS, there was a sort of self-selecting process going on the whole time among all of the prisoners. On the average, only those prisoners could keep alive who, after years of trekking from camp to camp, had lost all scruples in their fight for existence; they were prepared to use every means, honest and otherwise, even brutal force, theft, and betrayal of their friends, in order to save themselves. We who have come back, by the aid of many lucky chances or miracles--whatever one may choose to call them--we know: the best of us did not return."

i don't think jono ever suggested that caring about others would *ensure* your survival - the best of them in this movie also did not return. the difference was that those who cared about others were at peace when they died, sacrificing themselves to ensure others survived, while those who were selfish died in pain and terror, and for nothing.

That book is such a good read.

The heroes, the best of us, those who gave everything, might not have survived. But those who practised everyday, little solidarities, were far more likely to survive.

Holy funk! I never even thought of it that way! Just shows that selflessness makes a difference in more than one way.

Mr Sunshine is a masterpiece of a kdrama series!! I'm really happy to hear that you love it as well 🥰

Ahhh, I love A Werewolf Boy too! I haven't heard mention of it in so long!

Oh man me too. Werewolf boy, I had ugly sobs and my sister walked in and freaked out thinking I was hurt. I was...but only on the inside.

I also recommend Miracle in Cell no. 7, where the main character is an autistic dad that's been wrongly accused, and the white snake, based on a Korean love legend. Though, miracle in cell no. 7 was the first ever movie that had made me cry so much as a kid.

Yes I always say I don’t enjoy drama shows but Korean dramas are the exception

That is exactly what makes them so good! Even the "villain" is a complete human being

Like Mercury Rising? I have a nonverbal autistic daughter and the way they portray Simon as being autistic seems REALLY off. The name of the book that the movie is based off of is in fact titled Simple Simon.

like arnie in what's eating gilbert grape? there's probably a lot in that movie for them to work through.

There are countless examples, right? I wonder if they can do this while using an alternative as a "good" form of representation for people with I/DDs, but I'm coming up short on even thinking of one...Also, he's a therapist, so of course, maybe they can have someone who is a specialist or actually has an I/DD on as a guest. It's always people speaking on behalf of those communities who are centered in this issues.

@@gayhomosexuallll How to ADHD has a good episode on some of that. Jessica that runs the channel is ADHD herself.

Screenshot to remember! Thank you!

Sophie you are such a cutie, inside and out. Thank you for your work on this channel.

@@vinh_em So sweet, thank you!

Oooh will do

Thank you for the recommendation, I'm a weenie but I love analysis of stuff!

I really wanna see Parasite covered on here too, it's such an amazing movie :D

We’re having a movie night and watching it as soon as the movie cave is ready!

They absolutely need to do an episode on "Parasite". I was shocked when Alan said he'd never seen it! :O

@@sophietellez yesss do that :D and have fun! ^^

@@MChantal76 no i think he meant he hadn't seen squidgame?? But maybe since he said the son is it the same actor??

I don't find those jokes awkward, I laugh (laughing is more of a coping mechanism for some people) with person in that moment and not at them. We've all lost someone close to us, understanding that pain helps to understand others even a tiny bit. Things are only ever awkward if you see it that way.

I know how you feel, I lost my mom about 5 years ago now (cancer), and there are times when just thinking about her breaks me down, but also others when I can laugh and joke with people who also knew her about her own particular brand of crazy and some of the wackier adventures she drug me along for. I think losing a parent or dear loved one is almost like becoming a parent in a way - you don't really understand what it's like until you are actually there, the best you can do is understand that you don't really understand. I made a coworker of mine SUPER uncomfortable my first day back at work after my mom passed, to his credit all he knew was that I had left suddenly one morning because my dad had called and something was wrong (didn't know at that time she was actually gone, I was his first call when he found her, so he was fairly incoherent) and then I was just gone for about a month. So that first day back at our morning huddle he saw me and was like "Oh Hey FoxDragon! How's your mom, doing better :D ?" and I was still emotionally drained from everything and I just looked at him from across the huddle and had no energy to sugarcoat ANYTHING and flatly said "Not really, she died." I felt bad about it later cuz he didn't know, although I think being gone for a month would have been a hint. And he did come and apologize to me later and I apologized to him as well and explained that I was just trying to get back to something normal but was still very much not okay and he was very understanding. But yea... AWWKKKWAAARDDDDDDD

My mom died when I was young and there are many times when I would breakdown crying when thinking about her. But there are also plenty of times where making jokes like Jon help me. It's always hard to bring up my mom's absent to new people but my closest friends and family would join in my dark humor because they know that it's all in good spirits. I guess the message of this comment is that it's ok to poke holes at your own parents death and seeing done so casually made me laugh in a good way.

I also felt this moment strongly and was instantly sent into 5 scenarios where my besties just blanked in my eyes cringed at the dark humour i had just so i could be part of the conversation without feeling like my experiences were not valid and then it just made me feel more out of place and unwelcome. I mean im way too sensitive to being an imposter basically. No matter how many times people SAY they love me or appreciate me or miss me, i just won't be able to believe them due to the way i read almost all awkward situations and generalize it maybe because the one person who i solely relied on and had a constant attachment relationship with from birth to the new country and all my childhood, did not accept me and overreacted personally to every mistake i would najee made me feel unloved and annoying and always incorrect and actually tried to undermine all the healthy relationships i did have with anyone who would respect me and show me love due to her own personal experiences with them. I miss my grandmother and I wish i had seen the love she really had for me as it was whilst she was alive. I value alk the time i had with her getting to really learn from her and listen to her stories and do acts of service to ease her life and to see that she rally cared and was actually fobd of me for myself without the filter of my mum. But i will try activity not to do the same to my daughter and allow her to see whatever she does see in my mum without my personal bias damaging their bond.

@@FoxDragon I know the feeling. My mom and I went to the same hair dresser. Who was actually a childhood friend of mine. In 2012 my mom died. Some time after that I went to get a hair cut and my hair dresser asked about my mom, since she hadn't seen her for quite some time. It's so awkward having to say: "She's dead." People don't quite know how to react. Hell, it's been ten years since mom died... It still hurts, dammit.

I had a fangirl moment there too. Jono normalizing asking for consent like a BOSS. 👏

It's not a movie. It's a FILM.

@@elenachristian9860 Hm. Was it shot on an actual reel of film? If not, one term is just as valid as the other.

Yes!! We've got another one with Sophie coming later this month, and a few more planned this year.