“THERAPY HANGOVERS?” ep.212

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Ай бұрын

On Ask Kati Anything, your mental health podcast episode 212, licensed therapist Kati Morton discusses therapy hangovers and if those are even real. She then explains why talking positively to ourselves can give us the icks, why we can not like it if our therapist enjoys their job, and how we can ask our therapist to support us when we are having a hard time. She ends with the reasons we can not want to talk about our eating habits in therapy, and her experience working in community health clinics.
audience questions:
1. My question is about “therapy hangovers”. Is it even real? If it is real how does one deal with it and how long should it last? 00:43
2. How does one get used to positive talk when their whole life they have been shit talked to. I get the ick with compliments and when someone shows that they care... 09:49
3. Why do I hate it when my therapist says that he loves his job and that he really enjoys working with his patients? When he says that it makes me feel like I'm there for his entertainment. I feel like a circus freak, like I'm only there for him to study and learn from. 13:56
4. I was having a hard time during my last therapy session. I didn’t want to talk much and felt really low. My therapist asked how she can support me. I had no idea what to say so I just told her that I didn’t know. What does she mean when she asks this? What kinds of support can she give during the therapy session? I do remote therapy by the way. 22:15
5. My question is about not wanting to talk about my eating habits in therapy. In one of my first few sessions my therapist asked me about my relationship with food. I’m overweight and I don’t have very healthy eating habits. I would not consider it to be an eating disorder but who knows, a professional might disagree. I told her that I’ve seen dieticians before and I have all the knowledge I need about healthy eating and that I’m not interested in addressing this in therapy. She has diagnosed me with PTSD from S/A that happened when I was 23 (5 years ago) and that’s what I want to work on. The next session she brought up my eating habits again and advised me to see another dietician. I can’t help but feel frustrated. This is not what I’m here for and after being overweight for most of my life (since I was 12), I’m so sick and tired of every health professional bringing this up. Sore throat? It’s your weight. Ingrown toenail? You might want to lose some weight. Dry skin? It’s probably your weight. One time I saw my doctor for pain in my shoulders and left her office with a referral for gastric surgery. And here we are again. Maybe I’m overreacting or even lashing out because it's such a sensitive subject or is it justified that I don’t want to talk about this in therapy? I would love to get your opinion and hear from others who can relate. 32:46
6. As a clinician who watches your videos, I’m wondering if you have ever worked in community mental health. What would you say CMH is doing well, versus what’s not so good? That can be in a systemic sense, a sense of what the clients or clinicians deal with, or just general. Curious for your input! 42:36
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@earukeyser Ай бұрын

Feeling overexposed in therapy is a boundary issue that can and maybe should be discussed with the therapist. Trust and acceptance (unconditional positive regard) is so existential humanist. Feeling crummy for a minute to process difficult revelations.

@thereisnoninadria Ай бұрын

For the person frustrated by the therapist who kept mentioning weight, you have a wonderful sense of humor. I have had a similar experience, not in therapy, but when I’m seeing a medical professional for something like the flu or a rash. It’s super annoying!! Btw, I have weight related dry skin and ingrown toenails too. I’m right there with you! ❤🙃

@NFW6182 Ай бұрын

Thank you, this made me smile on a very hard day.❤️

@chrisalmendra4370 Ай бұрын

I just had my first session and I woke the next day with a headache/migraine and felt just so exhausted (but, I also slept very poorly a few nights in a row). My ruminations were up and since I cried a lot in sessions I noticed I was crying a lot at home/by myself.

@jalenanderson6894 Ай бұрын

I hope you see this because I just want to say how I notice and love this new style in her AKA videos. I have a bg in marketing and branding and as a viewer/listener it's so much easier to listen to Kati now. You get straight to it. You pick more questions that aren't repetitive or that has been asked already. You don't swallow hard or drink water in the mic. I hope you see the differences in your analytics too! Anyway, thank you for your expertise and giving us the validation and support we need. I always listen to you when I am in a depressed episode because for some reason it gives me comfort. Even if what you are saying doesn't relate to me. With LOVE❤❤❤

@beckysorg9406 Ай бұрын

Therapy hangover is part of why i schedule my sessions early on my days off. If its a draining session, I have the day to recover. If it's an energizing session, it gets me going to get a lot done with my day off.

@danettesoukup7395 Ай бұрын

Thanks for answering my question! I really appreciate it and will talk to my therapist about it!

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

AKA&OTDM podcast.hello Kati Morton so happy to see you again and I really needed to hear your soft calming voice I have been so stressed out and fed up with struggling and constantly fighting my mental health my depression makes me feel exhausted and have body aches even when iv had sleep my depression is effecting my sleep and eating routine and I've been dealing with anger issues and feeling emotional ❤❤

@tinam761 Ай бұрын

YES!!! Simple, clear, step by step KZfaq videos on how to access to care, how to do simple tax returns etc.

@JK-zm5td Ай бұрын

Kati, I am so incredibly thankful to you for addressing that being really obese points to having an ED.❤ I finally feel so heard, I actually needed to pause the video to type this in and for being in tears. 😅 Thank you so much for your work and for being the voice of reason here too. I don't care what anyone else says and I hope you can ignore any negative comments about this, because you just helped me with your words and I am sure that many feel the same way! 😊❤❤

@HeathaLynn13 Ай бұрын

Hey Kati I Love your channel, your tips and your delivery. Thank you for your efforts, I appreciate you 🫶✨

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@HeathaLynn13. Hello I'm Nikki 👋🫶

@ashleyjones8058 Ай бұрын

Great episode! Very helpful. I personally see one therapist for meal support at 9am and my primary therapist at 10am during the week. Hangovers suck because I dont have much time before work.

@scottyfpv5651 Ай бұрын

I go to a community center for therapy. It costs $36 a session and my therapist is great. I’m happy I found it bc the price is something that held me back from therapy.

@emancia Ай бұрын

Dear Kati, I hope you're doing well and taking good care of yourself. I just finished my therapy session and, towards the end, I had this deeply sad feeling that, had I met my therapist in different circumstances, we could not be friends. Maybe I wouldn't even want to talk to her because of the judgements I have towards people. She comes from a different background than I do: she seems to have a close relationship with her family, while I come from a shattered, not broken, household. Knowing that we couldn't relate to each other, I would probably think she's too privileged to "get me". Moreover, as I write this, I notice that part of that inner judgement towards her comes from a place of shame for being who I am, for coming from where I come from, shame because I feel inferior. I feel she could easily be disgusted by me. I feel dirty. I feel like she would think I desperately need help, and that she would pity me. That is very different from the compassion and caring she shows in our sessions. How do I reconcile these emotions? Thank you very much for all you do.

@Touay. Ай бұрын

Hi, Have you watched any of the videos by Heidi Priebe here on youtube? The videos on cptsd and "toxic shame" are excellent. I believe they would really help you. I will not recommend one .... plese watch all of them.

@SelkiesSong Ай бұрын

I have definitely had a few sessions where I walked away with a MASSIVE, debilitating (tension?) headache for up to 24 hours after the fact. Not every session, but maybe 2 or 3 sessions overall. It was definitely a noticeable thing.

@mirmirs Ай бұрын

Funny I see this just after my therapy session. Also been really struggling so it’s all very exhausting!

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@mirmirs.hello I'm Nikki iv been a long time subscriber and follower of Kati Morton and a new member of her channel membership I wanted to say hello and to meet and talk to people like me I can understand and relate to your comment about you really struggling and feeling exhausted ❤🫶

@mirmirs Ай бұрын

@@nikkimckay860 hi Nikki thank you I’m doing quite bad just got emergency referral to CMHT few hours ago.

@angier.1314 Ай бұрын

Kati omg that blue shirt is amazing on you! It suits your eye color so much😮

@Telle875 Ай бұрын

Thankyou. I appreciate what you do and say so very much. I wanted to say, thankyou to answering the question which also addressed breathing. As I get so frustrated constantly saying that breathing techniques aren’t great for me. Sometimes they can work but overall, never if someone else has to remind me! I thought I was being entirely fussy and difficult, it’s good to hear how many other people also struggle. I also wanted to say: - you assumed the question asker potentially had BED. I understand this but my personal experience is…. I had severe anorexia, I now am borderline overweight/obese… but I actually don’t eat heaps more and my patterns are along the lines of restricting arfid. I definitely don’t have BED…. I only say this because I was also offered a gastric bypass as a potential option when I was about 15kgs lighter than now. I know eating is blamed for my weight which is blamed for many other aspects even though I had those same symptoms before being this weight…. I had an endocrinologist explain that essentially it was the various medications I’d been on overtime (not now) as well as some of the underlying health conditions. I struggle because I also have what I term “cortisol belly” from extreme and prolonged stress. Anyway…. My point is, the advice is all good and right! Zero issues, but the underlying assumption could easily be wrong. This is partly why seeing a dietician or similar can be helpful for some people anyway, but just thought I should point it out. Plus it’s more common for those with Bulimia nervous to be overweight than underweight and as you know super dangerous. Just more myths I guess!! I only want to note it because you’re so compassionate and understanding and if I hadn’t done a strict calorie count recently to see exactly what I was taking in, I may have heard this as overeating etc. anyway. I also like what you have to say about community resources!! In my country they’re entirely overwhelmed and not generally experienced enough. But things like having someone help fill out forms and navigate the system, that would be amazing!!! Thankyou for what you do. You’ve been keeping me company in the middle of the night lately, you just didn’t know it!

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

Good afternoon everyone from Nikki from uk its 15:21pm here i am here to watch and listen to kati and meet new people sending prayers and care with support to everyone we all need and want to feel better because our mental health is exhausting ❤🫶

@ellerose1268 Ай бұрын

I've got an intake appointment at 9:30 in the morning, but I moved my schedule around and don't work that day😅

@NFW6182 Ай бұрын

Thank you for answering my question about obesity and eating habits. I know it only had like 3 likes. You said to let you know if I have any follow-up questions and honestly I have many! But, the person I should probably talk to about this, would be my own therapist.. It’ll be extremely uncomfortable but I’ll try. I agree with you that this topic of obesity in relation to eating disorders does not get talked about enough. I think it would be great if you’d post a video about it and if you’re unsure about it, I would love to help!❤

@leannedoolan5463 16 күн бұрын

Therapy hangover though you can also feel just generally exhausted. It diesnt always have to be a super intense session. I feek exhasted most days with my mental health. It's getting lesser though 😊

@fatemehaghaei1954 Ай бұрын

AskKatiAnything : Hey Kati , i love hearing your podcast during art work and it helps me do therapy better. But i am struggling with something i really want you to explain and give suggestions. i lie, i make up things, When i am in situations that i really dont trust, or makes me anxious. Which i really feel ahamed of it. But it's not for manipulating or scaping ,it's just saying fantasies as facts. I do this in therapy, grouptherapy , and with my family and my ex-partner called me a liar because of that. I am an honest person, i love honesty, and when i am feeling safe and trusted, i always say real facts and truth. Some people called it "compulsive lyng" but i dont see it as an addiction or compulsion, i feel it's the only way i can survive when i'm stressed and paranoid, but it caused me alot of troubles with my relationships and boundaries . I hope you understand my question and i hope you discuss it in your next podcast. You're lovely ❤

@Touay. Ай бұрын

... if you are doing trauma work, give it a couple of days, then you should be ok ... So still having significant sleep issues more than two weeks later is bad? (Rhetorical question). My therapist used the word "abuse" to describe what i went through during my chikdhood, and while i had used the word before, it is different the first time someone else says it. I have a long road ahead ...

@slvttycyne 10 күн бұрын

What about the opposite of a hangover, like a high vibrational euphoric mood afterwards?

@alibongois Ай бұрын

My therapist used yawn a lot and I found it spool hard to talk to her afterwards. I have Just started with a clinical psychologist and Issy session she yawned and now I feel really uncomfortable...

@itsameeeeeee1349 Ай бұрын

I think they are a thing. Sometimes the morning after speaking with my therapist it's so difficult to get up and do things. I feel drained, even if it was a good, or positive discussion.

@Okgeneric Ай бұрын

yes

@alibongois Ай бұрын

Where do we send Kati questions? 1:56

@Bischa1 Ай бұрын

She puts up a community post asking for questions on sundays I believe .. Beware, its not for 'next week's' podcast though, I believe she's 2ish weeks ahead. To find 'community post' ( if you dont know) - go to her channel specifically, then on top there is different choices, such as 'subscribe' and 'get notificatified', but below that also 'tabs' such as ; start, Videos, shorts, live,podcast, course playlists, community -.... tab community and then youll se the older posts but there should be a new one up sunday as I think she already has taken the ones from Sunday for an upcoming podcast ..

@gremlin4606 Ай бұрын

Where can I submit a question?

@Bischa1 Ай бұрын

She puts up a community post asking for questions on sundays I believe .. its not for 'next week's' podcast though, i believe she's 2ish weeks ahead (so this one is with q's from a community post 2 ish weeks ago) To find 'community post' ( if you dont know - go to her channel specifically, then on top there is different choices such as subscribe and get notifications but under that also 'tabs' such as ; start, Videos, shorts, live,podcast, course playlists, community -.... tab community and then youll se the older posts but there should be a new one up sunday as I think she already has taken the ones from Sunday for an upcoming podcast ..

@marinakiell1069 Ай бұрын

You didn’t mention my add-on relating to compliments

@tamaraann5926 Ай бұрын

She did mention this subject at 10:15 🩷

@tinam761 Ай бұрын

It sounds like people have the incorrect idea of what therapy is like. That they don’t understand it’s UNCOMFORTABLE at times and REALLY DIFFICULT… having your therapist there to help you do the hard thing… like walking around the room when dis regulated, is support to help you do the hard thing. Every thing in life is NOT supposed to be comfortable ALL the time. How can you build muscles 💪🏼 to be able to help yourself if you never do it? Take the opportunity to do it with your therapist so you can believe and know that you CAN do the hard thing. Therapy is NOT being comfortable 24/7 … it’s about addressing your issues and that is HARD WORK. Its work. Progress CANNOT be made without some hard work and doing things you don’t want to. Good luck. I get that sometimes you feel like you can’t do anything… just try something… do ANYTHING that moves you forward. I recently had about 1.5 years of therapy to deal with trauma and issues I swept 🧹 under the rug for decades… I’m glad I had a therapist that gently pushed me and was by my side as she did. It was still hard as F’#%k though

@jalenanderson6894 Ай бұрын

Also where do we comment questions for next week's podcast?

@styleandglam7656 Ай бұрын

Same question

@Bischa1 Ай бұрын

@wendymelton8643 19 күн бұрын

I can't look my therapist in the eyes and can't understand why

@mateusnanet Ай бұрын

Tell to Keya from me normal pimples are OK, and we need more videos.

@venakitchen8976 Ай бұрын

Wooow very beautiful channel Big 👍👍👍👍💖💖💖

@elizabethbryan7601 Ай бұрын

Is it safe to share private feelings with a therapist? What are the chances that they will turn us in to Big Brother in today's world?

@earukeyser Ай бұрын

Holy crap. If you can't trust your therapist with confidentiality, and they haven't discussed informed consent, find another therapist.

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@elizabethbryan7601👋.hello I'm Nikki a long time follower and watcher of kati Morton and a new channel member just wanted to be friendly 🙂

@arthurpenfield8229 Ай бұрын

I got into a huge fight last night and my face is disfigured. I'm ready to call it quits because once again, nobody gives a shit. Why bother getting therapy?

@arthurpenfield8229 Ай бұрын

@@o.e.lawrence4198 , nope. It's gotten much worse than previously. Therapists care because they are paid to do so. They don't actually WITHOUT MONEY, care.

@arthurpenfield8229 Ай бұрын

@@o.e.lawrence4198 , I don't deserve a chance. Why should I be allowed to have a chance? Therapists are paid to care otherwise they're not going to

@alinak9412 Ай бұрын

off topic but since i saw your name i started wondering. are you related to john morton in anyway? if you are we're relatives 😅 just wondering

@ArifKhan-pz8dd Ай бұрын

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@Arifkhan. Hello I'm Nikki 👋🙂

@RebecksMaguire-pb1ni Ай бұрын

Yea its sad that some therapists allow u to do that...when it's a compultion and it doesn't build connection or trust

@tb22k Ай бұрын

❤hello

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@tb22k. 👋Hello I'm Nikki long time follower and watcher of Kati Morton and new member of her membership

@nikkimckay860 Ай бұрын

@tb22k.👋 Hello I'm Nikki from the uk I am a long time follower and watcher of kati Morton and a new member of her channel I want to meet and talk to people like me ❤

@tb22k Ай бұрын

@@nikkimckay860 👌 that nice 😊

@Aboguaboga Ай бұрын

I think I would be more concerned if I went to a medical professional that didn’t enjoy there job lol. I understand a therapist is there to help us but Jesus, they are still a person and are still going to have their nuanced vocabulary, no one can monitor for EVERY word they use/say, if anything I have less trust in people who are so careful with their words bc it seems unnatural and forced and makes me think they don’t believe what they are saying so are either lying or being disingenuous. In my opinion, the general message and tone is more important than dissecting every single word used, because at the end of the day if you want therapy to be useful your going to have to hear things you might not want to hear. I see therapy as a place where you should receive unbiased feedback in an uplifting manner

@moderngoblin Ай бұрын

How come you and other therapists always talk in the voice that people talk to dogs and babies in? Anyone else feel infantilized by therapists?

@LeComplice Ай бұрын

i completely agree. I guess maybe it makes some people feel safe? Many don't do that though thank god.

@marypritchard8765 Ай бұрын

If they do that to you, tell them that's bothering you. If they don't change, find a better therapist.

@emancia Ай бұрын

@@marypritchard8765 I would argue "better" is unfair to say. You two not being compatible in style doesn't make either of you better or worse. That being said, if you feel like that in therapy, bring it up, and yes, look for another therapist if necessary. However, what do you mean by the way people talk to babies or dogs? I am legitimately curious, because I don't see it that way. I see, on the one hand, Katie being the host of a public KZfaq channel. It requires a different approach than being in the room 1-on-1 with her as she must keep the content engaging and, given the topics discussed, at the same time personable, relatable, with a human touch so that it separates her from pure entertainers. On the other hand, I see a very eloquent and highly educated adult who has spent her entire life studying and navigating emotions, both of her own and of the people in her life, be them clients, family, or otherwise. She also prepares ahead for these videos. It is no surprise that she can talk honestly about these things in a calm and self-regulated manner and with the appropriate lexicon. But again, that's my perspective, mixed in with some hypothesizing, and I'd still be curious to read others'. At the end of the day, therapists are there to help you navigate your own emotions, and to help you self-regulate. They're the pros at that. It is an incredibly valuable piece of information to share with your therapist if there's anything that bothers you about their style and approach. Similarly, it would be incredibly valuable for us to explore why we feel differently. We all watched the same video, but how we perceived it is informed by past experiences. I often question whether I'm bothered by people, or by my own judgements of people, my own assumptions of them. But I overanalyze things, as you can tell 😬

@crownprincesslaya2 Ай бұрын

Do you mean… kindly and with compassion?

@paulavery5889 Ай бұрын

@@crownprincesslaya2that's okay, since you're not any smarter than a baby you won't know the difference. Yay!