THERE'S ALWAYS A TWIST! | Doctor Who Season 1 Mystery Deepens

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Richard Lloyd

Richard Lloyd

Күн бұрын

She's cropped up in 1666, 2023, 21506 and 1963. But just who is Susan Twist's mysterious Doctor Who character? And what exactly is she up to?
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@ftumschk
@ftumschk Ай бұрын
1:30 It's just struck me that "gaudete" (Latin for "rejoice") is a possible nod to "Joy to the World", this year's Christmas Special.
@Jim_The_Fish
@Jim_The_Fish Ай бұрын
One Christmas special predicting another
@andrewraphael3800
@andrewraphael3800 Ай бұрын
With all the winks, strange moments of bursting out into song, snow, editing of past moments, and Susan Twist I'm looking forward to how this is going to all culminate. It's sad that people are judging the show at face value - I feel like a lot of thought has gone into these new episodes.
@robertstavely314
@robertstavely314 Ай бұрын
I agree… the fourth wall breaking seems a little too much to not be a plot device
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 Ай бұрын
Doctor who was not meant to be a queer version of High School Musical. That's why people are judging it and walking away. Nothing sad about it, they were warned, they chose to call everyone names and pressed ahead anyway.
@osanneart9318
@osanneart9318 Ай бұрын
@@lesigh1749 Doctor who never has been a "meant to be this or that" kind of show. It's been breaking expectations of what sci-fi can be since the sixties. Constantly. People are judging it because they are unwilling to wait and see WHY certain tropes are being used. most "fans" who walk away seem to have a very limited understanding of the concept that anything and everything can happen in Doctor Who. We started off with a flying phone booth, angry saltshakers and actors swapping the main role. A lot of so called "fans" seem to have the memory of a goldfish, and forget that Doctor Who has always been campy, not always very serious, and that for the past 20 years the new who seasons always have been planned ahead of time. So far, in even in modern Who, we've had several episodes like (for example) The Doctor Dances that finish with the doctor dancing or singing from joy, we've had musical focused episodes like Rings of Akhaten, we've had the doctor himself being a skilled musician and breaking the 4th wall (12s whole run). all of these things were well loved aspects of the show and the character. It's only now that a queer black actor is doing these things that they've started to suddenly hate these aspects of the show. So yeah, production saw the backlash and pushed ahead anyway, because they saw the backlash for what it was: unreasonable.
@rac3502
@rac3502 Ай бұрын
They are also saying mavity in big finish now
@Gemma-Majoran
@Gemma-Majoran Ай бұрын
Theres Always A Triad at the End
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 Ай бұрын
My favourite theory is that she is the Monk, I mean it does make sense and it would also explain S Triad being an anagram of TARDIS! I love the way Susan Twist is being incorporated into each episode, it's fun wondering "How will she fit into the episode this week?"
@andrewglasson4583
@andrewglasson4583 Ай бұрын
At first I thought she was the Meddling Monk but when the Doctor mentioned his granddaughter at the beginning of the Devil's Chord and then ended with the song There's Always a Twist bookending the episode with the name Susan Twist. She is either the Meddling Monk or Susan. She may also be the One Who Waits and Ruby's mum.
@ChaingunCassidy
@ChaingunCassidy Ай бұрын
I'm not sold on Ruby being a Timelord, the scan in Space Babies said that Ruby is human.
@hotdog1214
@hotdog1214 Ай бұрын
Some possible theories based on what we’ve got so far: 1) Brand New character with some way out idea we haven’t thought of yet. 2) The Meddling Monk, hadn’t thought of that one, that works, especially as how they don’t see each other in the scenes so far (and also have different faces from when they last met) 3) Could be Ruby’s mother, but I’m not keen on this one for some reason. I like to think this is a double twist (excuse the pun) and RTD is giving us two mysteries side by side to follow. Didn’t the Doctor’s scan of Ruby reveal she was an ordinary human? So if Susan Twist is a god or alien that takes on different personas throughout time, then she can’t be her mother. I feel it’s more likely that old chestnut of Ruby is Ruby’s own mother paradox type thingy. 4) It’s a regenerated Susan - too on the nose having the same first name especially as she was just mentioned in TDC? 🤔🤔 I hope if this is the case that we at least get a flashback which allows for an appearance of Carole Ann Ford regenerating into this incarnation; just her being Susan without Carole reprising the role beforehand would be unsatisfying. 5) The name S. Triad is an anagram for Tardis so perhaps it’s the embodiment of the Tardis (possibly why there’s an abandoned one on a cliff in one of the trailers?). Equally this could also apply to the above theory, that it’s Susan using a pseudonym that is an anagram of Tardis as her disguise though time and space. I’m definitely intrigued as to why this character appears around the Doctor but never interacts with him and that it’s been done in a subtle way so far. From RTD I understand that the Doctor and Ruby will start to notice her in upcoming episodes so looking forward to this one…. PS As always loving these videos which sum up what we know, picking out all the clues and Easter eggs while theorising what they might mean. 👍👍
@rascalapache
@rascalapache Ай бұрын
"That's Me, Margaret Lockwood in The Wicked Lady" If only we knew a timetravelling highwaywoman called Me ;) On top of this Ashildr is/was trillions of years old (The Oldest One - admittedly described as 'he') and waiting for the Doctor at the end of the Universe (The One Who Waits) Of course this could all just be coincidental, or trolling from RTD :)
@TastySalamanders
@TastySalamanders Ай бұрын
While Susan Twist didn't appear in The Giggle, Triad Technology is mentioned. So if she is playing Susan Triad that is at the very least an indirect mention. As for the alternate timeline in The Devil's Chord, fairly sure that's explicitly Maestro's work - that's why there's the whole sequence where they travel forward to 2024 only to find it destroyed. As for the movie the Tealady is talking about; fairly sure that's in response to the Doctor's quip about the price of her tea - he calls it highway robbery and she in response compares herself to a highway robber.
@StetsonDoctor
@StetsonDoctor Ай бұрын
Very true. People have suggested she could be the woman who picked up the Master’s tooth too. In which case, she’s been in every episode… That’s certainly the surface level meaning of the highwaywoman thing, but there could be something deeper. You never know…
@NCR5309
@NCR5309 Ай бұрын
Missing the wood for the trees. Margaret Lockward’s character in “The Wicked Lady” was: 1. A duplicitous character with a dual identity 2. Called Barbara More mischief from RTD
@hotdog1214
@hotdog1214 Ай бұрын
Brilliant! I was wondering about the reference. 👍👍
@There-is.no-spoon
@There-is.no-spoon Ай бұрын
Just a guess: is the Twist that Susan is Susan Foreman the Doctors Granddaughter. I didn't know the Susan character was a thing until this video so I didn't think anything of it at the time, but it was strange that the Doctor took time to explain to Ruby that he had a Granddaughter called Susan and he didn't know where she was any more.
@derekhart3308
@derekhart3308 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same it's the return of Susan Foreman
@hotdog1214
@hotdog1214 Ай бұрын
@@derekhart3308 Especially as her original surname was taken from the scrapyard they were living in at the time so Susan is known to make up her last name. S. Triad is an anagram of Tardis so that could be her latest pseudonym 🤔🤔
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 Ай бұрын
This isn't how Susan Foreman operates. Also if they were going to bring back Susan I feel like they would bring back Carole Ann Ford.
@hotdog1214
@hotdog1214 Ай бұрын
@@friendlyotaku9525 It isn't how she operated before because she relied on her Grandfather but its entirely plausible she could be doing so now that she is much older. Assuming she doesn't have a Tardis, this could be her way of travelling through time and space, or possibly its an agent on her behalf - eg its her consciousness but not her body, a bit like Quantum Leap. It has been an awfully long time since she was last seen so anything could have happened in that time. But I do agree that if Susan was brought back and it isn't Carole Ann Ford I'd be really miffed.
@selatidos
@selatidos Ай бұрын
is ...Susan triad an alive tardis or a time lord still alive?
@Fasith
@Fasith Ай бұрын
I saw her as the Ambulance staff in "Boom" and as the hiker in "73 yards".
@willcartoons
@willcartoons Ай бұрын
Ha! I knew it! I thought I was going crazy there. I did see Susan Twist on Space Babies.
@robb4089
@robb4089 Ай бұрын
Could the hand that picked up the gold tooth in ‘The Giggle’ also be Susan Twist? There’s always a twist at the end? If so, that would leave only ‘The Star Beast’ without her…
@StetsonDoctor
@StetsonDoctor Ай бұрын
Indeed! I saw someone suggest that she could also have been the "woman in Abu Dhabi" buying Rose's toys in The Star Beast. In which case, she would have been referenced in every ep!
@matthewwhittles3004
@matthewwhittles3004 Ай бұрын
Think Susan Twist could be playing someone like the Meddling Monk, the Valeyard, Rassilon or maybe one of the three Gods of Ragnarok as the word Tri is in her name and so could mean she’s three of something. This could also be a clue to Rassilon as he could be one of three founders of Time Lord society.
@aesthetrick2424
@aesthetrick2424 Ай бұрын
I feel like the funniest thing is that you were one of the first people to talk about Susan Twist even before Wild Blue Yonder aired. I remember you and Miles kind joking about it. Who knew she'd be a reoccurring plot thread like this!
@StetsonDoctor
@StetsonDoctor Ай бұрын
Ha! Yes, it’s hilarious looking back 😂
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack Ай бұрын
This is embarrassing, but I got Susan Twist and Anita Dobson (especially Mrs. Flood) mixed up.
@charlesfinch5327
@charlesfinch5327 Ай бұрын
There’s always a Twist at the End, I think she’s The Meddling Monk as she keeps cropping up everywhere and she looks like she’s following The Doctor and Ruby throughout Time and Space
@NileSWPhotography
@NileSWPhotography Ай бұрын
But why wouldn’t the Doctor sense her being a timelord? I know he never clocks the master etc and I can understand that they need to have a big reveal but still
@vindurza
@vindurza Ай бұрын
hmm she is either one of the toy maker's legion, or maybe a new incarnation of the master
@lolanorris5317
@lolanorris5317 Ай бұрын
I think the singing and dancing with 'theres always a twist at the end' originally annoyed me because it felt so unreal, but perhaps its just an extreme foreshadowing, perhaps there still in the sureal world of the toy maker or the 'one who waits' as the doctor after singing steps on the road which makes noises, extremely sureal and not natural but they brush over it as part of the song. But perhaps its all leading to some kind of ploy of them being controlled, as the doctor says somethings wrong he keep running away from creatures, and steping on things without looking which isnt like him at all, so hopefully this will play out to something great
@owenmcghee1666
@owenmcghee1666 Ай бұрын
Love this video so much I am subscribed
@StetsonDoctor
@StetsonDoctor Ай бұрын
Thank you! Much more Susan Twist stuff to come...
@markbunn4376
@markbunn4376 Ай бұрын
The Doctor did mention The Rani, that does make sense to me.
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate Ай бұрын
I liked that theorizing
@thenintendoman
@thenintendoman Ай бұрын
I put money on the doctor pointing out that he’s noticed her but just hasn’t brought it up
@NileSWPhotography
@NileSWPhotography Ай бұрын
The Susan theory is good but her character isn’t obvious enough. I would have never realised had I not seen this video 😂 love it.
@louiscarmichael9260
@louiscarmichael9260 Ай бұрын
Omg am I going mad or... Susan Twist / Doctor's Granddaughter "Susan" Susan is played by Carole Anne Ford The song that played from "deep inside" Ruby Sunday is called the Carol of the Bells Is Ruby linked to Susan? And Susan Twist is playing a character something to do with that?
@paulshorney3465
@paulshorney3465 Ай бұрын
I think ruby is Susan foreman's granddaughter,making her the Doc's great great granddaughter 🤔🤔!!
@tombaker03
@tombaker03 Ай бұрын
👊🏼🩵
@garyhendrie4001
@garyhendrie4001 Ай бұрын
Should that heading not read there's always a twit
@11royals96
@11royals96 Ай бұрын
The mystery is, why anyone choose to watch such utter rubbish. This is not Dr Who.
@user-tc6tu6ni8m
@user-tc6tu6ni8m Ай бұрын
It’s a Toymaker’s wife. Maybe as simple as that.
@StetsonDoctor
@StetsonDoctor Ай бұрын
So Maestro’s mum! 😳😂
@AlexLowes
@AlexLowes Ай бұрын
Aha and that's why the Toymaker says even he can't deal with it (something along those lines)
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