😂😂😂😂I JUST SAW THAT

Now that you pointed out, I can't not see it anymore

Joe House on that sigma grindset using the sm7b like it’s a handheld

"All i need is two mics" - nas

Hinkie had the longest view in the room and that is what I need Morey to have right now

@@saiyanroyalty229 hinkie is prolly one of the most disrespected gm ever the man had a plan now everyone tryna copy that

We never seen klutch players demand for trades that wasn’t warranted. They don’t make empty threats so a deal will get done. AD years was being wasted on the Pelicans and that’s why reports from zion camps says he’s not feeling Nola. Ben just doesn’t fit here and maybe he just wants to leave

I’m sure this comforts morey at night 🤣🤣. Let’s kill our championship window out of spite.

Humble Klutch? That's not going to happen if Simmons gets traded or not. If Simmons doesn't get traded it doesn't hurt Klutch. The built in excuse is that Morey was asking for way too much. If he does get traded and it's to a place he wants to go or ends up being successful, then Klutch has once again done to management what management has been doing to players for five decades; prove that contracts don't matter. Teams sign players to long deals and then trade the player whenever they feel like it. Now players have turned the tables.

Don't wish that on us Minnesota fans. We've been terrible for long enough.

@@mikelindsay9165 he would be the best thing that happened to Minnesota in some years

@@Bannedconfidential This is Anthony Edward’s erasure

@E Ardlow Them private jets from Minny to La aint gonna help either

6ers fans?

doc rivers saying what he said + embiid saying what he said didn’t help either

@@cstinybaby uuuuuuuuuuuu

They’re not saying he’s a bad player. They’re just saying he does not have leverage to ask for a trader after one promising rookie season.

@@SantiagoSanchez-hb4js He's not asking for a trade Ben is they were discussing him being added to a trade with Ben. If I was a Rival GM I would love to get Maxey back in a trade because he's a young player with upside.

Amen! I notice the same thing about him.

Maxey needs to fire Rich Paul for even having his name mentioned in this Ben Simmons situation especially when trying to use him as leverage when he benefits hugely from Simmons getting traded

@@gilfordmccormack8140 no they were referring to the news story that went round that maxey is backing klutch sports by cancelling his community services around philly cause he doesnt wanna be there anymore. They were saying that the news story was nonsense

I think they should but they should banish him to a horrible team and let him get it out the mud the NBA should boost Milwaukee coverage and cover Giannis more than Simmons and they should let him earn his press and fame. That should be punishment for players that want to leave early in their contracts

@@Useraccount303 So trade him to the fourth California team the Sacramento kings 🤣

Id probably bench him till his contract is up and let his stock drop

@@lakeshow24mvphof send him to the wolves 😂

I mean do you not care that Philly was tryna trade him to begin with? Lol

you can tell the people that havent actually seen him play

I’m fine with Ben getting traded and Maxey being the starting PG. He played very well right out of the gate. Please stay a Sixer!

Ben simmons winning the standoff rn man went out there made a statement Basically yall gone Have to trade me or it's gone get real ugly

And then you piss off your actual superstar in Embiid.

@@letstalk140 how’s it going to get ugly. Simmons has zero leverage and any squeaking he does can quickly be rebutted by saying “zero points in how many 4th quarters?”

@@letstalk140 they would like to but nobody wants him ^^

Yup! Someone needs to tell LeBron's super agent to take a hike. Does he recall he did sign an extension contract

Not to mention Embiid and doc caused his value to tank with their comments

Why give a max contract to Ben if you are incompetent at fitting him with Joel as the focal point. If you ran Ben as the focal point we will be here talking about Joel wanting to go join Miami but they are offering nothing much for an always injured player. Just saying

How has that worked for the Spurs though?

@@ericdavis1758 They got back the best deal they could for an asset they were going to lose anyways.

@@Vaughndaleoulaw but did they? They not only traded Kawhi but traded Danny Green and all they got was DeRozan, a back up center, and a draft pick. For Paul George, OKC got Shai, Danilo, and 5 draft picks.

@@ericdavis1758 the Clippers weren’t going to get Kawhi unless they made the Paul George trade. OKC knew that so they were able to fleece them. And PG3 promised he would stay once his deal was up. No one wanted to offer much for Kawhi because he would not commit to re-signing where he went. That is on those other teams, not the Spurs.

@@Vaughndaleoulaw But the Spurs could've traded him to the Clippers and got a better package. They didn't wanna send him to his preferred destination.

Right, Simmons was as accomplished as any of those dudes at this stage of his career. Multiple all star appearances, all nba defender. None of those guys were champions or won mvps, so I didn’t understand that argument

I would hate to see Simmons waste a second of Embiid’s prime but at the same time the 30 for 30 based on Simmons sitting out for 4!years then retiring would be amazing.

It's not that straight forward. Yes, the 76ers need to maximise Embiid's prime however, a subpar haul in return for Simmons will create a ceiling for that teams potential that's not high enough to challenge the Bucks or the Nets - who the East will run through. They are already over the Luxury Tax threshold. Morey has to extract as much value as he can from Simmons otherwise this whole house of cards come crashing down. You can argue that it has already collapsed but from the 76ers perspective that isn't true or at least they have to do everything they can to make sure that it doesn't become true. There are several trades which might work but would have to involve a 3rd team. CJ + Brogdon to the 76ers, Simmons to the Trailblazers, and Seth, Maxey, and Covington to the Pacers. Picks would probably be needed to make things work for Indiana and Portland - This is the best trade I've seen floated around simply because Philly get a PG in Brogdon and SG in CJ who can replicate Simmons production but they both have much lower potential/ceilings than Simmons. Portland gets Simmons who'll improve them defensively and has a ton of upside, also gives them a 2nd ball handler, and they can afford to give up some offense. Indiana are going nowhere so give them some picks, Maxey is a young prospect and both Seth and Covington are solid players. Everybody's happy.

You are generalizing this WAY to much.sure that’s something the 76ers care about but first off him doing that will turn him into the MOST toxic player in NBA history and I imagine will hurt his chances of EVER signing a significant contract ever again because let’s be honest no team wants to deal with such a ridiculously huge ego, especially when he thinks he’s a super star when he’s an all star at best. Then in addition to that, no WAY the NBA let’s him just sit out a season without SEVERE punishment. The CBA isn’t just rules for owners and teams to follow it has things that players need to follow. Ben may have had some leverage shortly after the playoffs but everything he has said has pissed away that leverage.

They don’t have to give up the whole season just a portion and the trade deadline at the latest. Ben gives up money when he sits. There have been reports that he would lose over a mill just to miss training camp alone before games even start

@@emjay-gaming you give up part of the season and suddenly you’re an 6-8 seed in a tough Eastern conference with no guarantee waiting to the trade deadline will get you a better deal. Also you’re right about Ben losing that money but he also is about to start his contract extension and he’s gonna get half his $147 million before a fine is even levied. So yes a million dollars for missing camp. For a guy that was #1 overall which is a immediate $45 million contract. That doesn’t include off court income for advertising deals, shoe deals, camps, investments. A million isn’t gonna hurt him at all. He could sit out till the trade deadline at the cost of probably $10 mil? He wants out enough he could front that easily.

But how does that situation leverage Simmons? How does that help him dictate where he goes? This man has 4 years left on his deal he has little to no leverage at all. The sixers can trade him early or trade him late but regardless he will be leaving for the best possible offer the sixers can grab hold of.

@@mohamedsalah6580 his camp has stated he doesn’t care where he goes. He just doesn’t want to play in Philly. That report of him only wanting to go to an LA team was false.

@@mohamedsalah6580 the situation can be leveraged by Simmons because not having him on the court or not having whatever they could get for him in a trade on the court means they’re a worse team in a conference that got ridiculously better over the offseason. They wait too long into the season they good be irreparably behind in the standing meaning no home court, and waiting into the season hoping a team is bad and their star wants out is a gamble. What happens if they wait and there’s no good deal out there? You just wasted half the season for nothing and now the whole season is likely ruined and Ben’s value didn’t go up. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ doesn’t make sense.

Woz is dying to be on ESPN at some point lol😂😂😂

@@gilfordmccormack8140 I really enjoy his addition! He just talks longer than the other ppl on the show and throws off the flow. I think given time he will get it down!

Big Woz is fire

"Big Woz" is ass and shouldn't have been forced into all these podcasts in the first place.

He’s already a really good player. With a heart he’s Giannis.

@@E2you not in the playoffs he isn't. When we're playing some poverty franchise that's when he steps up. When we're playing against a contender he shrinks every time

@@user-yg1br7vr4c this year in the playoffs it was a mess - while still almost averaging a triple double in the first round. Almost any other player plays the defense he does and almost averages a triple double and everyone would be over joyed even with the beyond horrible free throw percentage. He’s so damn good that people expect greatness - rightfully so cause he’s obviously capable of it. How he shrunk at the end just is overshadowing everything else.

@@E2you he has no heart. Weak ass Ben. Ben needs to look in the mirror. Get better shoot the ball…

@@E2you no...we expect him to dunk on a 5ft 9in Trey Young...not pass it up cause he is scared to get fouled

I’m not sure if you understand crimes

Because they can’t get a decent trade for him

4 left left on his contract and he'll get fined for every game he sits out that's not due to suspension or injury

@@playmakersc12k82 so you’d rather waste a season of Embiids prime, who probably only has 2-3 left, just because you can’t get a superstar in return? In return for a dude that shot historically low from the free throw line in the playoffs? For a dude that couldn’t play in the last 6 minutes of the game? For a dude that took 3 shots in 7 straight playoff games? Because you can’t take that dude and turn him into Dame you want to waste a season of Embiids prime? That makes no sense.

@@rods7028 I got no problem fining Ben. My problem is wasting Embiids time with a $35 million hole on the roster.

@@westleystone6577 you don’t think Malcolm brogdan can waste another year of Embiid’s prime just as well as Simmons ? Mine as well be patient

😂😂 no way Boston had a better package then what LA gave the Pelicans. Outside of Tatum and brown Celtics have nothing to offer.

Bill Simmons is such a homer he is becoming more of a hater the older he gets

Boi stop

😭 Dlo

The problem is he’s trying to learn how to play point guard, 16, 9 and 9 is good. It’s not good when your starting guard can’t shoot and doesn’t play well with your best player. He has to go. Asap

To me that’s not “rebuilding value” that’s just doing what he’s already done in the regular season. They’re not getting crazy offers no matter what.

He's too much of a coward to ever show his face in Philly again. He's using the doc interview as an excuse to hide the fact that he's too much of a coward to come back here. Any professional athlete who thinks what Doc said was too harsh is just far too soft to play professional sports. The criticism was so mild for a guy who literally had the worst NBA playoffs in history

@@Kirbystare1992 Absoulutly right. I just think his current market value is now below his actual value, due to the abysmal atlanta series. If he comes back and gives you, say, 25 games of secons season Ben Simmons, he may push up his value just about enough to maximize a deal on him. They are not getting any blockbuster offers for him, to be sure. But it could maybe short the sixers way to a De'Aaron Fox caliber player, or maybe even a Lillard (with add-ons of course, for both mentioned options)

I agree 1000% people are forgetting how good he is regardless of flaws. Couple regular season games may remind everyone

That’s is his ceiling

@@Armenian_King imo his ceiling is not a top 50 player of all time. Pippen taught himself how to shoot and wasn't scared to show up in big moments. Simmons never gets better and has actually regressed in some areas.

I feel is actual ceiling is a past-his-prime Jason Kidd.

They tried to trade for Harden

@@tennesseewilliams101 true but that’s the only person they tried trading him for and we all knew the rockets owner had beef with Daryl Morey and wasn’t gonna give him harden.

Good question because they always seem to have to big a asking price. Door gets slammed on them

Kid gonna feel neglected his whole life

@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope 😂

His son is 13. He didn't

He should teach the kid to shoot with the wrong hand for the lolz.

Just don't play with 76ers, he'd be alright.

Everyone I've ever known from Australia has been tough as nails. Ben Simmons is literally the worst representative you could have possibly sent to the NBA. He's baby shit soft. I think it's funny he wears that stupid necklace but he hides his Australian accent.

@@user-yg1br7vr4c Im with you on Simmons but I studied in Perth for a semester in 2001 and I met some absolute bitch made dudes. Actually more than half. I will admit that the other 42% were some dark alley comrades you'd be confident against anyone with. That doesn't take away from the sun dresses but I'm willing to bet they were well off spoiled Satchel Paiges. All the outdoor types were hellafied ass kickers. Most fun I've ever had.

The reason they were the number one seed last year was because Brooklyn was injured all year and most teams because of covid restrictions were just trying to make it to the playoffs healthy and unscathed. Not even Sixers fans believed we were the best team in the East last year. It was just a really weird year where Brooklyn absolutely didn't care where they got seeded because they knew that they could probably beat anyone if they were healthy.

Sixers get fleeced in that scenario. No thank you!

What are you smoking? Draymond is no longer a very good basketball player and the pick swap will be a late rounder

Yeah….that issue is under discussed

House loves the NBA!!!

Embiid

Don't forget about Fultz!

I think that’s what makes a trade so hard, I’m a Pistons fan and don’t want him. Not because he wouldn’t make us way better, he would! But what are you doing with him as your best guy? Bad teams don’t want to take him before the emoni draft and good teams probably feel better about the skill set of their tradeable pieces. It has to be Sacramento or someone like that who’s in 8-11 purgatory.

I’m a Pacers fan. That’s a terrible deal…… ……for the Pacers.

He gets half of the 33 for this year not the full contract; also he will be fined 220,000 per game if he sits out.. he will definitely play or him and rich Paul will lose millions

@@bgriffin7283 I didn't mean full contract. Brain winhorst. Said half his yearly cash . Sorry. But yeah the fines would be heavy. But having some cash to start off with is better than NFL where it just starts off fines before 1st pay check. Is what I meant.

They can wait until the tread deadline

Trading Ben for scraps right now would literally be wasting Embiids chances in the future. People keep repeating this nonsense as if we can't possibly wait till the trade deadline. We are playoff team with or without Ben he doesn't move the needle and he has no leverage at all and he's going to be sitting next to his pool for the next 6 months losing a game check every night. We Philly fans couldn't be happier to let him sit and lose the only thing that matters to him.... his money

I like that trade, I think both sides would be taking a risk but I agree with your benefits.

OFC Bill's his boss.

@@bhoj03 He’d get more respect by just standing behind his own opinions

Or maybe he agrees with them?

Wos does this on a lot of pods and it's kind of annoying, and I find him annoying but he speaks gems at times that make you think.

@@brianbenjamin653 that’s what makes it so irritating because the dude has enough gems that it bothers me when I see him try to appease everyone. He’s smart enough to hold a discussion just off his own takes.

Well they tanked for mad years just to draft Simmons and Embid. The stink of loser is all over them

That was never an option because Fertita refused to do business with Morey - the Sixers were always just leverage

@@towelociraptor No Morey refused to put Maxey in the deal so the package didnt appeal to the rockets cause they didnt see Ben as a franchise player for them to build around and the rockets didnt see the rest of the package as good as all those picks the nets gave them .

@@keldenrobertson7894 I'm assuming your source is Tilman Fertita's broke ass

I said the same thing...last year..!! He wont dedicate himself to improving, so fuck him...

They’d be a perennial playoff team with him.

Parents corner

yeah it would be a win win in this situation. Kings probably make the playoffs with Simmons and Fox matches better with Joel.

@@E2you i don't know if the Kings make the playoffs but they would improve defensively

But the Sixers want more than Fox. Supposedly they want Fox and multiple first round picks. Granted I can see Fox + one draft pick. But that’s being very generous.

@@Dweller415 nah that's too much, Fox is an All Star in the East and Simmons stock is down, i don't think he makes All Star in the West

@@aepr84 the West is tough, but I could see them just turning up that defense with Simmons, Mitchell and Barnes - making the play in at least. I’m assuming Bagley isn’t in that line up or there goes the defense.

Why not john wall for ben simmons Neither of them wants to be at their franchises cj happy in Portland

Which is why Ben won't get moved until the trade deadline. CJ McCollum is just a more expensive Seth Curry

Your team got raped bro

That's a bad trade

Horrible trade.. siakam isn’t needed

Morey is high on something if he turned down the #4 and Pascal for Ben.

@@genesmith3582 siakam doesn’t sound like a good fit

@@bgriffin7283 who cares, they could have had Suggs and if Siakam didn't fit well, he could still net something in trade. The Sixers are not going to do better.

U can't make this shit up. The media is the one job u can absolutely suck at with zero consequences

@@jmar5127 facts and they just move on like it was never said

It’s really not, he’s probably going to a small market team anyway

After no showing for 3 years in the post season Doc and Joe's criticisms were about as mild as could be expected. For people to keep lying about how he was thrown under the bus is just a silly ESPN narrative. Could you imagine Jordan acting this way if Phil Jackson gave him that mild of a criticism after playing as poorly as ben did in three straight post seasons?

@@user-yg1br7vr4c MJ would’ve literally killed Ben Simmons if they were team mates

Ben is a weak ass gen z sensitive punk..Ben made this problem by not having any heart. No drive to get better, no passion to dominate. Not shooting is a crime against the game.playing 5on 4 in the playoffs is his issue. Elite teams will bury him on the bench because he can’t make foul shots in the 4th quarter. Atl and Boston crushed his heart in the playoffs. His defense is no help when u run from the ball on offense. Look in the mirror Ben. It’s not the fans, or Doc Rivers fault that u wet the bed against Atlanta. Own it Ben. 🏀🧐

U clearly aren't a sixers fan and don't know what has happened for 5 years with Ben in Philly. Research before u type bro.

@@jmar5127 no I’ve watched the 76ers use him as a feed player for Embiid and allowing him to lose confidence.

How is he?

Lol for who ? 😭

Wow you've managed to propose the absolute worst trade I've ever seen in all of these Ben Simmons discussions. Why in the world would we give up Ben Simmons and Seth Curry for CJ McCollum who's just Seth Curry light plus 20 million dollars a season. CJ is 30 years old and is on a steady decline Seth Curry is the same player and is younger and cheaper.

God awful trade scenario

@@user-yg1br7vr4cJordan Poole for Seth Curry, bro

Not bringing Ben back is what keeps Embiid happy

Nah joe ingles for ben simmons sounds unreasonable

@@letstalk140 Why would the best Aussie in the league be traded for Simmons

Klutch has so much power that this only hurts the Sixers in negotiating with free agents. But sounds like Klutch already had a grudge against the Sixers.

@@jayyyy0284 I don’t see how or why they would have a grudge. It looks like agent is looking out only for it clients without any concern for the team, as they should.

@@williamjackson5421 all rumors but said Klutch didn’t present 76er offers to Noel (current lawsuit). Also said Klutch steered LBJ away from signing with 76ers when he was potentially interested. Agents play a huge factor with teams and teams do their best not to ruin their reputation as well.

So Dallas is trading Luka for KAT or Embiid? Cause they have no other assets to trade for those guys.

@@hustlecrowe9440 no Dallas doesn’t need to lol if a superstar requests out they always get what they want and KAT is coming up soon

Wtf what makes you think they are trading Embid or Kat to Dallas 🤣 🤣!!!

@@EmacMac-ph2zd bc the players have ultimate power..

@@Useraccount303 no not that much power lol