'He instantly recognised the political opportunity' - Freddy Gray on the Trump shooting

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'He instantly recognised the political opportunity' - Freddy Gray on the Trump shooting

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Ай бұрын

Former US President Donald Trump narrowly survived an assassination attempt overnight while speaking at a Republican rally in Pennsylvania. Freddy Gray speaks to The Spectator's economics editor Kate Andrews about what we know so far, and where the Presidential campaign goes from here.
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@cwam1701e Ай бұрын

I don't think it was political calculation from DJT when he stood up and showed defiance - I think political journalists fall into the trap of seeing everything in that light and interpreting every action in that way. What I think we saw was character and personality; we revert to who we really are in these moments and what Trump is, is a fighter; it is his gut response to stand up defiantly as he did, not a political calculation.

@pistonburner6448 Ай бұрын

She's paid (100% certainly paid by a political party through middlemen) to spin everything in a certain way and to push certain narratives.

@bellesblues Ай бұрын

@@cwam1701e he reminded me of Muhammad Ali in his expression.

@manusha1349 Ай бұрын

Absolutely 💯 true! ❤

@zaphod22 Ай бұрын

You start your paragraph with the worst three words.... I don' think.

@robertcook2572 Ай бұрын

Good point, well made. The media love to highlight negatives

@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын

Image-wise, the contrast between Trump and Biden could not be more stark at the moment.

@daveisbrill Ай бұрын

@@markwheeler202 you have no f-in idea how biden would have reacted. None.

@droptuned83 Ай бұрын

@@daveisbrill he wouldn't have noticed.

@itsmyytaccount8498 Ай бұрын

Unbelievably out of touch commentary from you two. Shameful

@teknical100 Ай бұрын

Failure to understand exactly what has gone on to get here just shows the lack of insight from the Specttor.

@virgiliustancu9293 Ай бұрын

This girl is not very smart.

@christianwestling2019 Ай бұрын

Is she actully complaining about his behaviour seconds after he was inches from dying?

@roblancs Ай бұрын

She voted Biden. Hope that explains.

@OLLYZOG Ай бұрын

Why is Katie Andrews even at the Spectator? She should bugger off to CNN

@pistonburner6448 Ай бұрын

Yes, she is nuts.

@user-qc5mz8fc7x Ай бұрын

She’s very pretty

@schofield4836 Ай бұрын

No common sense or understanding that he was in shock and leading a rally

@ableasdale2000 Ай бұрын

Kate has ideological blinders on.

@HerewardTheW Ай бұрын

I don't think the amount of chuckling and joking is appropriate. DJT has escaped with a graze, but someone has died and two more people are said to be in critical condition. A degree of reverence in tone is the least we can expect from our journalists when reporting on such events.

@Yourdeadmeat69 Ай бұрын

What do you think of Trump mocking Pelosi attack.

@S3NTRY Ай бұрын

You misspelt smear merchants

@fenrir7878 Ай бұрын

@@HerewardTheW Journalism nowadays is about sensationalism.

@Mellowyellow3 Ай бұрын

@@S3NTRY what is wrong with you? Are you so used to finding fault with people that’s the first thought in your mind

@S3NTRY Ай бұрын

@@Mellowyellow3 let me say it again. Smear merchants.

@JamesSmith-qs4hx Ай бұрын

Do you remember when the BBC defended Jo Brand over the Battery Acid Joke?

@laravonstaden1838 Ай бұрын

Yes, the BBC and left wing media and ultimately Jo Brand, should be ashamed of themselves. The trouble is, they never are. The new “Puritans” aka Liberals think they hold the higher moral ground and evidently they do not.

@bonniejordan8192 Ай бұрын

I don’t think we care who this person is voting for. She needs to get over herself.

@fbinformant Ай бұрын

Spectator is absolute trash. Why am I subscribed

@ald3975 Ай бұрын

DID HE "RECOGNIZE HIS OPPORTUNITY " Or you Just Don't Know What you're talking about. How many times have you been shot? ,, since you know what he's thinking?

@patriciakimball8150 Ай бұрын

Trump needed his shoes in order to walk to the car. What’s so strange about that? Even that you’re going to twist and criticize?

@simonsaphire Ай бұрын

She finds it hard to accept that you have to take a side and plant a flag in one camp or another. She also says 'there is no way I have or ever will vote for Trump'. We know where she's planting her flag then I guess.

@dianawardrip5171 Ай бұрын

Foolish

@anthonywakeman9136 Ай бұрын

Glad I ended my specy subscription. Hopefully many others are too.

@OLLYZOG Ай бұрын

@@anthonywakeman9136 boycott spectator until they sack Katie

@NORAD-AFB Ай бұрын

The ignorance from these two is mind boggling.

@aidan11162 Ай бұрын

As with most UK based media. The bias is readily apparent

@hkravvaritis Ай бұрын

Shame on you spectator. For that kind of commentary we can watch cnn.

@OLLYZOG Ай бұрын

@@hkravvaritis sack Katie

@jesusjohnny8286 Ай бұрын

His show of defiance described as political opportunity? You are despicable.

@allanhutton1123 Ай бұрын

Agree fully these guys are idiots.

@jeperstone Ай бұрын

Boom! You said it for me

@fergusmurphy8310 Ай бұрын

He's making the point that Trump knew his defiance would be politically important. It's both, I think. The terms "fight, fight, fight" were political.

@jamessmith1652 Ай бұрын

You are right and shame on this video. What Trump did is simply similar to a hurt sportsman letting the cloud know he is safe. But with extra defiance on top, letting his people know we will not be beaten by anyone!

@JimChap Ай бұрын

@@fergusmurphy8310 No, not at all, and the quote is used as the headline for this piece. The words "fight" were clearly emotional, instinctive, and a sign of defiance. If you want to instead just call that "political" then you are some kind of detached robot lacking in awareness and I don't know what to tell you. Terrible take. Awful. Good luck.

@takamataday3146 Ай бұрын

I thought that as a journalist you are supposed to appear impartial. I don’t want to know you’re a Democrat. It’s spoiled your writing for me.

@caracalla6472 Ай бұрын

Kate Andrews is not a Democrat; she's a never-Trump Republican. She has made that clear many times. Freddy Gray can't be called a Trump supporter, as he not American and can't vote, but has always been sympathetic to him.

@celiaflinn7737 Ай бұрын

Today’s “journalist” are really activists for their party.

@krileayn Ай бұрын

'He instantly recognised the political opportunity'

@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын

I don't think it was meant as a criticism. I interpreted it as (perhaps a little clumsy) way of saying Trump's instincts serve him well, which is true.

@MrMortsnerd Ай бұрын

Kate Andrews reveals her complete misunderstanding of US politics at the 3:29 mark of this video. She seems to be wholly lacking in curiosity regarding the various crimes and misdemeanors of the Democratic Party since 2008 and the lack of voting integrity they have been responsible for. How she can say such nonsense is proof positive that journalists still play the role of gatekeepers for certain international elites, even at the slightly right of centre Spectator.

@hattmarvey1989 Ай бұрын

Does she know that most Democrates voted to allow non-citizens to vote in the U.S. elections, without ID?

@allanhutton1123 Ай бұрын

@@MrMortsnerd I thought they where left of centre now.

@williamsnowden8186 Ай бұрын

Right of centre? The Spectator, London liberal luvvies? Hardly, dear boy.

@epictetusghost1369 Ай бұрын

@@allanhutton1123Uni party mouth piece.

@srikantmantravadi Ай бұрын

@@MrMortsnerd please get the trump hater and nitwit

@kinghenry100 Ай бұрын

Kate andrews is so blue pilled

@humbledandgrateful7411 Ай бұрын

Wait... she's the economic contributor/editor and she won't vote for Trump? I... give up! I can't understand how they think.

@kimle848 Ай бұрын

What I don't understand is why these reporters never had anything meaningful to say. Simply describing a scene that had been viewed a day ago is not reporting. Incompetence again.

@S3NTRY Ай бұрын

This was pretty vile.

@sionnach.1374 Ай бұрын

She's awful

@swdierks Ай бұрын

I wonder if she was referring to Bill Clinton calling Bush illegitimately installed by the supreme court, or Hillary calling Trump illegitimate when she referred to 'election deniers'? I hope so.

@Sasser2015 Ай бұрын

Probably not, as neither of those were full on multi-year election denying movements involving hundreds (or thousands) of members of one of America's two major political parties.

@jdg9999 Ай бұрын

Did you have to talk with Never Trumper neoliberal Kate?

@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Ай бұрын

Yeah right? They should have called you!

@humbledandgrateful7411 Ай бұрын

@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. You're right👌

@proofpositive11 Ай бұрын

As a trauma trained professional, your assessment is cynical. Dazed people after a trauma can do some confusing things, like ask for their shoes. They are also in fight or flight mode which can manifest in reflexive heroic behaviors as you see in car wrecks or war. Knowing he is being attacked for his populist ideals, he very likely assumed this was also an attack on the populist, anti-marxist (and more) movement in America, so naturally a leader, not knowing if he is going to live or die, will encourage the movement to fight on. Wishing this video never popped up in my feed, but like a train wreck, couldn't look away. Just like after a death, just too soon. SMH

@jonathanbowen3640 Ай бұрын

He's almost certainly thought about what his response to something like this would be. He probably practiced "fight fight" in front of the mirror. He will have remembered this when the event happened and he had a few seconds to think whilst on the ground. He was in show mode. His whole being driven about how is seen from outside, by others. Most people like you will just think he's being badass though.

@proofpositive11 Ай бұрын

@@jonathanbowen3640You may be right about the forethought. Have you ever considered ahead of time how you would respond in a stress or critical situation? I didn't say he was badass. I said he was confused and in fight or flight. You assume much.

@jonathanbowen3640 Ай бұрын

@@proofpositive11 Nope, I said "almost certainly". I may no assumption. I didn't say what he definitely thought. I didn't say I was certain. The guy is such a showman and entertainer and a PR genius I would be very very surprised if he didn't already have a strategy in mind that made his/this reaction almost inevitable. Of course I could be wrong. And I agree that he's probably high on adrenaline etc. Maybe this is just a natural reaction, like being angry or in shock, but for me I reckon this is at least a little bit "pre event trained". But we will never know. Obviously he would never admit to "I thought if I ever get into trouble I need to use the situation to look as baddass as possible".

@proofpositive11 Ай бұрын

@@jonathanbowen3640He likely would not. However, any serious person in a position of leadership would concern themselves with a strong response in a crisis, including you, I hope. We could mince words all day. Thanks for your conciliatory efforts.

@Johnny-sj9sj Ай бұрын

@@jonathanbowen3640Really. Well my having been in quite a few fight or flight situations, I strongly suspect that you would be one of those on their knees screaming for their mother. Nobody knows how they are going to react in such a situation, and for you to come up with those accusations is horribly cynical. And I don't even like Trump.

@JamesSmith-qs4hx Ай бұрын

Hillary needs to get a refund.😐

@christopherwalker1304 Ай бұрын

i remember when the spectator engaged in genuine unbiased journalism . ( sigh )

@DS9TREK Ай бұрын

It was never unbiased. All of the UK print media have open biases it's why they're popular

@paulcotter821 Ай бұрын

On the BBC I thought I heard one guest said Trump reacted like a football hooligan 😮.

@hattmarvey1989 Ай бұрын

Political opportunity? Surely not.

@JfK--OBJECTivE Ай бұрын

Idiotic comment.

@rebeccaphilbrook1686 Ай бұрын

Empty commentary

@BrianKT Ай бұрын

Thoughts and prayers with poor Kate. We all know how disappointed she is.

@jae2686 Ай бұрын

Freddy with his negative wishlist for what will happen, but then admits he’s probably wrong. Which is pretty much where he always is on Trump.

@Chris-xv2gm Ай бұрын

Desperate, desperate reporting.

@pistonburner6448 Ай бұрын

This is not reporting.

@SpeedbirdHeavy Ай бұрын

We are absolutely, definitely NOT all MAGA. Don't you dare speak for us all in that condescending way 😡

@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg Ай бұрын

How funny they don’t know that Trump said he’s going to announce the VP pick at the convention !

@blackmushroom247 Ай бұрын

She is desperate and flustered. She is in the 5 stages of grief process, struggling to stay "professional". Particularly amusing watching her try to explain "the reactions of normal americans" and within three seconds monologue into her own personal feelings and hopes for what a Democratic party response could be. Always knew there was something fishy going on with this woman. I've been casually watching some of the discussions posted to this channel by The Spectator for years, and this is the worst ive seen.

@WalterWild-uu1td Ай бұрын

I am a Maga Republican and I think these statements by The Spectator are on the whole rather balanced and good. Compared to statements made almost immediately after the attempt by some sources in the US, I think the statements made by Mr. Gray are welcome...he recognizes the dangers of the moment and possible outcome on the nation and the upcoming election.

@Mike-br8zt Ай бұрын

Shame on you Kate Andrews.

@5heffPaul Ай бұрын

EVERY pro-Trump comment I have made on this channel today is immediately removed! Wow, what an impartial channel 👏 🙄

@andreasstavrinides6980 Ай бұрын

That's a lie. Almost all of the comments here are pro-Trump.

@billturner6564 Ай бұрын

It's magical how comments the MSM don't agree with dissappear 😅

@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын

Click the button to show comments by "Newest First" rather than "Top Comments."

@DS9TREK Ай бұрын

They aren't removed, but KZfaq does hide potential spam from "Top Comments"

@SW18_103 Ай бұрын

I usually love the spectator but it’s time for me to unsubscribe from both this KZfaq channel and print delivery. Journalism is tiring, divisive, and above all just a platform for for people who think they’re educated to chat bollocks. Goodbye spectator.

@curiositycloset2359 Ай бұрын

Anyone else think it weird that the bbc had a reporter at some random, unimportant, rally?

@michaeljames8410 Ай бұрын

It's not weird at all so just say what you want to say. The BBC did it? worst kook theory yet.

@wickedtribeART Ай бұрын

@@curiositycloset2359 I see what you’re getting at, but it’s definitely not unusual for a BBC journalist to be at such a rally; especially given the current election in the US and Biden’s gaffe heavy media appearances.

@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Ай бұрын

@@curiositycloset2359 No not at all

@user-gx5nq3wb7w Ай бұрын

The BBC have reporters in all the main news worthy countries of the world . The " World Service " they produce is still worth tunning into for that reason

@allanhutton1123 Ай бұрын

@@curiositycloset2359 he not a BBC report, BBC don't have many of those, they are free lance that contract out any event to the BBC.

@TheJon2442 Ай бұрын

Economics editor.... Like the COVID (non medically qualified) experts still pushing for the jabs...

@ald3975 Ай бұрын

Why did I subscribe? FAKE NEWS. Unsubed .😮 Tah Tah

@sofakingjewish Ай бұрын

Donald Trump’s candidates in the 2022 midterms were not failures. He has way more wins than losses. Get a real person than her

@dannyarcher6370 Ай бұрын

"He instantly recognised the political opportunity." And?

@samuellowekey9271 Ай бұрын

That's a downvote from me, or am I being oppurtunistic?

@cian_dali Ай бұрын

You’re being a snowflake

@PM-4564 Ай бұрын

I'm a Trump supporter, I think this was a fair video, I think many people read the title and wrote a comment without watching the video.

@srikantmantravadi Ай бұрын

You lie. You are not a Trump supporter

@michelpeereboom4650 Ай бұрын

I think, I don't believe you. Weasel.

@martinjohnson5498 Ай бұрын

This probably gives Trump a freer hand in selecting a VP. What Republican will say “No” to him next this week?

@antithetical Ай бұрын

I've been a Spectator reader for years. I'm actually shocked at how tone deaf these two come across. She almost sounds gleeful when she says 'a successful assassination attempt.'

@garyreid7865 Ай бұрын

shameful

@jae2686 Ай бұрын

Kate Andrews anti Trumpist giving her opinion, why? And apologizing for saying something that irritated her fellow hateful leftists. You won’t make them happy. Ever.

@rupertp Ай бұрын

Kate Andrews making it about her as always

@beardfmly Ай бұрын

That conversation between Reagan and h the doctor did happen. I’ve heard a recording of it. Reagan says to the surgeon, “I hope you’re a Republican.” The surgeon responds “Mr. President, today we’re ALL Republicans.” and then you can hear laughter in the background.

@jonsmith1162 Ай бұрын

Incredibly poor take. Close to unsubscribing given this and some other equally bad output lately.

@aroyaliota Ай бұрын

Agree. I’m not surprised by this response, though taken aback by the young journalists failure to read the room. Worse, The Spectator expects its subscribers to digest this tepid dishwater.

@user-jn2gk4oy7h Ай бұрын

Appeasement creates weakness as is Biden. . Fearlessness creates strength as is Trump...Trump took a bullet for America and got up and said fight, fight, fight. Freddy who would you want to govern England Trump or Biden?..We see England is now governed by appeasers...I pray for America and Great Britain...What would Churchill do?

@jonimarsh9105 Ай бұрын

He then raised his fist and said F U while all the Secret Service Agents were trying to protect him.

@doricetimko5403 Ай бұрын

That’s what I thought I lip read…

@DrGAshenden Ай бұрын

You actually thought his concern for his shoes being removed by the impact of the event was funny ?

@billclarke3773 Ай бұрын

Should journalists advertise their voting history and intensions? Shouldn't they simply write and speak objectively, informatively, interestingly and persuasively in the pursuit of casting light on current issues?

@Slumbert Ай бұрын

Saw iconic photo on T shirts already at Conservative Vibes etc

@harml3ss28 Ай бұрын

Yeah we don’t need to know that Kate would never vote for Trump - this really spoils the discussion. A Neil has never revealed his personal politics and has retained the highest integrity partly because of this discretion. Could the team take a look at the comments about the SS performance in this situation and the DEI revelations?

@paulprice8541 Ай бұрын

Trump offends the refined sensibilities of the patrician Spectator. They inherited *their * gold water closets

@oleolesen2672 Ай бұрын

Rampant TDS.

@rsb8653 Ай бұрын

Never look down on a camera

@jamie-we6yn Ай бұрын

Your response is shameful. Is there no-one at the Spectator with the stones to speak out. Sam Leith wrote a great piece earlier today which has clearly been taken down. Ffs

@ravishingravi Ай бұрын

This lady looks clueless about US presidential elections and history of election. Spectator can do better

@DaveEtchells Ай бұрын

Eye-opening to me to see just how much ideological viewpoints can color perceptions. It’s hard for me to understand how two seemingly intelligent people could have such warped views of reality. The levels of selective blindness, projection and mind-reading are frankly astonishing. I’d say it was a sad waste of my time, but OTOH I did at least gain some insight into political delusion.

@tomwirt319 Ай бұрын

As a senior, senior, it always amuses me how young reporters so totally report on the infirmities of seniors. And with still all the l we gal ramifications of Trumos still to be legal stuff before the election, and without legal knowledge of our system, iyou seem ro be taling the "oh, hes old" verse of Us media.

@LexTNeville Ай бұрын

We all dodged a bullet I think. Off topic, but Freddy, I have that exact same model and spec garden office - fantastic aren't they. Need to get some curios up on the wall my friend.

@wadejnelson Ай бұрын

I am stunned by the obtuseness of this discussion, I am instinctively inclined to unsubscribe to all things Spectator, but appreciate Douglas Murray and Ben Domenech yet not Kate Andrews !

@philipmilner9638 Ай бұрын

It would appear that the security', for people in American politics is pathetic ex president Trump, Ronald Ragan, President Kenedy, Robert Kenedy, presidential candidate, George Wallace and proberly a lot more...

@amitk2923 Ай бұрын

These failed state journos are laughing away... What a shame! The UN Security Council should manage the affairs of this failed and fragile state.

@AJ-hi9fd Ай бұрын

Tepid response, possibly guilt!

@kongphooey7230 Ай бұрын

SICK Spectator.

@MidnightRambler Ай бұрын

This lady hates trump TDS😂

@pads-zr9ln Ай бұрын

Yeah they rejected him in a free and fair election 😂

@CorporateU-Tcensored Ай бұрын

Fair? Hardly...

@malcolmlakin5265 Ай бұрын

People really should STOP paying their licence fee and, of course, then cease watching terrestrial TV and BBC iplayer. It is the only way to make your point about the BBC. We ceased paying our fee, when it came up for renewal, earlier this year, after a number of years not watching the BBC etc. My wife and I felt the odd programme we might watch we could without; and this is the case. Unfortunately, under this government, we could be a long time before any changes are made to the fee, meanwhile, make the decision and take the action. Three months on, and we never give it a thought, other than the money we save can be spent on channels and programmes we want to watch.

@jacquelinethomas4932 Ай бұрын

I get a free license and I haven’t watched terrestrial television for years. I occasionally dip in and out, particularly when something like what happened to Donald Trump happens…it’s so interesting to watch the reaction of both sides of the political divide…If I didn’t get a free license, I certainly wouldn’t be paying for one…

@DS9TREK Ай бұрын

@@jacquelinethomas4932licence

@thebackup2121 Ай бұрын

Perhaps you could do what many people do now, which is read more than one newspaper, instead of just reading the one you write for

@Jimboken1 Ай бұрын

Kate: "So yeah but no"

@Charlie-ff7tu Ай бұрын

What a disingenious thing to say. Must have a lot of hate !!!

@jonimarsh9105 Ай бұрын

Read his lips

@edsr164 Ай бұрын

The evangelicals will be convinced God directly saved him

@lobstereleven4610 Ай бұрын

Some say it’s political opportunism, others say it’s defiance and bravery. Your bias will determine how you view Trump’s reaction. I wonder what these talking head’s bias is. 🤔😂😂

@williamsnowden8186 Ай бұрын

One is accustomed to the cynicism and callousness of journalists, but this narrative is Machiavellian, certainly not "kind."

@andreas.9175 Ай бұрын

4:28 Um, he did know. The secret service surrounding him were saying "shooter is down". Did you watch the video and do any prep/homework for any speaking on the topic that you might be doing? He was will to take the risk that there weren't multiple shooters.

@MarcusCorbett Ай бұрын

Why can't you guys say that the most important and succeeful independent candidate for the US Presidency RF Kennedy appealed to everybody to support Trump and hos family ar this moment. What is wrong with you!!!

@firefox2402 Ай бұрын

This is a mean-spirited and petty dialgoue between these two, each trying to outdo the other in their scacrely concealed disdain for Trump. Shame on The Spectator. They've lost my subscription.

@viveviveka2651 Ай бұрын

You do not really know his motives. It is speculation and projection. I've heard a number of alternatives that seem just as plausible or more so.

@Rb-fp7mw Ай бұрын

It's called leadership...we never see it these days so know wonder you are over analysing it.

@jbagger331 Ай бұрын

Or he was just really angry.

@Letsgetiton41 Ай бұрын

Do people really take what they hear from the spectator seriously what a sad bunch of losers

@scottclark3139 Ай бұрын

“He instantly recognised the political opportunity” Is that your take. Is that what you are going with?

@kimle848 Ай бұрын

If you're already a staunch Biden supporter then this event won't change your mind, but for the people like me (who had left the democratic party because of their toxicity, vitriols, hypocrisies) who are on the fence, not quite subscribed to Trump team but now could likely be drawn over the line after this.

@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Ай бұрын

Does this event leave the door open for George Clooney to replace Biden?

@kbdkbd99 Ай бұрын

As you say, he may have immediately recognised the political opportunity. That I do not doubt. But let us also note that you also immediately noticed the rhetorical opportunity to create an unsympathetic narrative. Fortunately you're subscribers are waking up one by one.

@BK-uf6qr Ай бұрын

The author is just another clever but biased media figure. They know Trump has some sympathy they can overcome in the short term. So they create an article to basically say it’s ok, but make sure you come back. The Luntz story is all you need to know about the ulterior motivesz