As I've said before, there is something seriously wrong when it's easier to enter the UK without a passport than it is to leave Sainsbury's without a receipt.

I’m in Italy. In small villages and towns, there are groups of young African men hanging around outside supermarkets begging, and in lovely rural traditional towns and just hanging around and the locals hate them. No integration

I lived in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe for 30 years. My opinion is that it is impossible to "integrate" Africans into Western societies - we are too different and attempting it will inevitably lead to tensions and possibly conflict.

When Chris talks about building the economies in Africa so that people want to stay there, I have to ask what happened to the billions in foreign aid that the West has been sending there since the '70s?

look to Poland and Hungary thats how you look after your people , god bless them

Why don't they mention the elephant in the room which is when these men get asylum they will demand family reunion, so if 7000 land in Italy, it is closer to 30000 eventually

Basically our leaders are 100% perfectly happy with the situation as it is despite all the talk otherwise 😳

It is a question of fairness. UK taxpayers pay into society and, in return, receive certain benefits. When people illegally enter the country and are gifted benefits, funded by the taxpayers of that country, it causes huge resentment. In many cases they are gifted more benefits (24hr access to a doctor, 3* hotels with no energy bills to worry about). This is not racism. It would not matter whatever the ethnic background of the illegals. Would we react the same if the illegals were white, Christian Canadians? I am sure we would. We pay tax in expectation of a social contract with our Government that provides us with, not least, protection of our borders and a duty to spend the taxes that we pay wisely and fairly.

Douglas Murray - brave voice of truth

The longer the failure to enforce the law, the failure to carry out the first duty of government, goes on the worse the considiton of the social contract. The more reason every citizen has to consider their government incompetent and harmful to them. And the more reason for every citizen to become both entirely lawless and extremely active in defending themselves, their property, and their nation. In other words, the more governments fail to defend the borders the more the nation slips towards mass lawlessness and civil war.

I ALWAYS AGREE WITH DOUGLAS MURRAY…HE SPEAKS FOR ME ON EVERYTHING…HES BRILLIANT JUST BRILLIANT ❤

Spot on from Douglas as ever.

One would think enforcing borders, and the rights and responsibilities of citizens is government 101. If you can’t enforce your borders, and allow foreigners to cross the border and access free education, free healthcare, free housing the same as citizens, are you really a country?

Douglas only voice of reason and truth.

Douglas as ever is correct.

Africa is a huge continent, there is plenty of room there. Britain is tiny. It's like moving out of a huge ranch to live in a cupboard under the stairs

Any money sent to Africa will find itself in the pockets of leaders, NGOs and charities. Very little gets to the people.

Why have laws at all, if our so called "Government" are not prepared to enforce them?

It’s not impossible but you will notice every western liberal country is experiencing the same thing, at the same time, which tells me it’s all deliberate

This is not the end but the beginning of the end 🫤 What political classes puts it's people last.?

Britain is bursting at the seams and the problem is becoming insurmountable.

Al Capone is famous for saying "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness". Europe needs to get their priorities straight.

Douglas is so right. As usual.

Something is only a “human right” when it does not conflict with the rights of others.

Here in Australia we put an end to this almost overnight by turning boats around and ending the right to come to the mainland. There are quite literally billions of people who meet the criteria of wanting a better life who would arrive if they could. BILLIONS.

Exactly! WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT ENFORCING THE LAW!!!

This only the beginning, millions are on the move The strange death of Europe right in front of our eyes

Gadaffi had a solid grip on his coast and stopped ‘refugees‘. That is until Hillary Clinton, supported revolution which resulted in Gadaffi’s death and continuing chaos.

To enforce the law first you have to want to enforce the law.

Actually Mr Murray it was way worse for Inger Støjberg here in Denmark, the reason she was prosecuted was because she refused to have old men be with their child brides on Danish soil (many immigrants from Muhammadan countries have child brides), that's right she upheld the law of the land which is that Paedophilia is a crime, and for that she got convicted.

Speaking in my capacity as an on-line know-all, it's NOT impossible to enforce the law. All it takes is a government with a spine. There are many islands and isolated areas in Europe (and plenty off islands off the UK shoreline) and there's nothing to stop governments building camps there to hold these people. Give them the choice to stay there until their individual cases are processed, however long that takes, or get a trip home on the taxpayer (that would still be much cheaper than housing them in hotels). If you stand your ground and keep building and filling these camps, it won't be long before the migrants -- who are nearly all economic -- get the message and will stop coming. By the way, the NGOs ARE people smugglers.

Compare the career and ongoing life adventure of Aayan Hirsi Ali in The Netherlands (as an immigrant, student, member of Parliament) until she finally had to flee the land for her own safety. For contrast, pick any African or Middle Eastern young male Muslim immigrant, who refuses to integrate. Multiply this example by many hundreds of thousands. Imagine the utter chaos emanating from these ghetto communities, no-go zones. How many more decades of this mayhem before we wind up with an indigenous population that refuses tolerance for, or acceptance of an invasion that has taken over their homeland?

The recent influx is a worry for Europe too as even a dripping tap does a lot of damage.

Listening to Douglas is always a treat. I think the real issue is the insurmountable chasm between evidence based discussion and lovely idealism. Europeans need to understand psychopaths prey on their wishful thinking. I'm south american, trust me, I should know...

If the EU continues to move the migrants, mainly young men, into mainland Europe it will encourage more and more to make the journey.

Of course it’s not impossible to enforce “The Law”, all it takes is the political Will and Integrity by Politicians, that, friends, might be hard to come by.

Cindy says that 70% of Hong Kongers holding degrees, speak English, just sell the Hong Kong flats and buy a London Apartment. They are essentially British (because we were there a quarter of a century ago). 20 minutes later she is in Leeds with Hong Kongers who can't speak English, don't have degrees and are in need of Tax Payers assistance. No mention that they will obviously be setting up a China Town in Leeds where it will be possible to function in Cantonese with no English. Of course the Hong Kong Triads will have remained in Hong Kong. None of them will be CCP spies or susceptible to pressure from the CCP to assist the CCP.

It is a pity our politicians aren’t like that Polish man, and the philosophy that a nation’s laws comes above everything else. That is how sovereign nations should operate. Instead we have a bunch of spineless creeps who have no respect for this country

Douglas, we need you as PM please.

Douglas is a giant of british intelligence

It is true that the demographics are just going up in Africa. Good thing it is a big continent and we should remind any people wanting to come to Europe that Africa is big enough for all of them. Stay there.

love Douglas Murray, he speaks soooo much sense !!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

If you don't pay your taxes you will experience how easy it is to enforce the law.

We know where they're eventually headed. Italy needn't worry. We have massively underestimated the numbers coming? Enoch Powell asked the question in 1968, "where will it end?" We still ask.

Brilliant conversation. If Europe doesn’t get a handle on this European society is finished.

Cindy Yu doesn't see why the English should remain in a majority in England.... Hmm - who could have guessed?

If they aren’t legal, send them back. Give them an application form and tell them to join the queue.

I agree wholeheartedly with Douglas Murray. Preventing or at least slowing illegal migration is not an insoluable problem. There simply isn't any political will to ameliorate the situation. I don't know why that is. Perhaps, as Douglas suggested, politicians fear the repurcussions of being tough on illegal migration. Voters need to make their displeasure known at the ballot box before their standards of living erode any further.

I speak Italian well enough to know that Meloni said recently that if they can break the mafia they can break the dinghy business, maybe it was just talk as the migrants are now on the mainland

Could it be that international law - like the UN Migration Pact that Theresa May signed, despite being elected on a mandate to protect Britain’s borders - takes precedence over UK law?

Dispand the UN, problem solved.

Just turn the boats back.

Murray put his finger on it when he said that the numbers who want to come are effectively infinite: and the more we take the more will come. I don't want Europe to turn into Africa - and the elites clearly do want that.

Great conversation, please continue it with more time.

We in Europe were told ' don't have big families, it's not good for the environment' but they keep having babies! I'm sickened now to think I listened to them! 😡😡😡

I can imagine that people moving from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom besides mostly being educated, having university degrees, many of them also have traveled internationally and have more of a globally mindset. Even if they aren’t well off, they may have friends or neighbors that have travelled to different countries, or have talked about the news in different countries, and so they can easily integrate into another country and they’re willing to work, or perhaps set up their own business or entrepreneurship and contribute to their new country in many ways.

It would appear a great number of Politicians ask the public to vote for them stating they are Mr. Hyde, then once they are in power they change their name to Dr. Jekyll. 🇬🇧

The idea that national leaders can't even enforce their borders, due to punitive actions taken by international forces above them, is frightening indeed.

Douglas is confused about the laws on immigration (there is no one law on immigration).. Contradictory though it is, a migrant can arrive in the UK with no documentation, claim asylum, and that is legal (hence no migrants are arrested in Dover). Until that law is changed, the law on entering a country illegally (without valid documentation) is irrelevant.

It's an ocean. Sink the boats. After the first few, caught on video and broadcast worldwide, the influx will slow to a manageable level.

Douglas Murray, we need you for PM. Please!

The channel migrants could be taken straight to the Minquiers island 9 miles south of Jersey. This is british territory and uninhabited - they can be deposited there until they get back in their boat and go back to france 5 miles away. If they are less cooperative then they can be deposited on the nearby sandbank instead - they'll be back in their boat when the tide comes up.

NGOs are a part of the smugglers network. The smugglers tell the NGOs where the immigrant boats are, and the NGOs collect them. The people smugglers then make contributions to the NGOs.

Razor wire , guard dogs and bullets . Im sorry but they are the only answer. It's the roll of the dice where you are born . . I was born in Canada. We are so lucky here . ( even with the dictatorship we have )

We have the World Wide Web to thank for educating everyone as to life around the globe and the fact that we have been saving life in the Third World with modern medicine and foreign aid for decades and so their population has increased and is now out of control.

Israel showed us with Gaza that u can keep a border u just need enough determination and bullets

On paper, a Monarch, with an obvious longterm stake in the country outside of "line goes up whilst I'm elected", would have the motivation to put a stop to it. But can you imagine Charles or William stationing the Navy off the coast? They'd be more likely to jump on the boats and help them paddle... Our Royal Family is mired in the same toxic progressivism.

Europe is doomed. Absolutely tragic.

Once these people have arrived and 'settled' in the countries that they have selected for themselves (their choice being unimpeded, demonstrably, by their hapless 'host' country), they seem to do nothing but make further problems and can only sing the praises of their home country, their 'heritage' - notwithstanding the fact that these are the very places they clearly thought so intolerable that they had to leave them. If those who dissent from the regimes that they claim are oppressing them (the only legitimate basis for claim to asylum elsewhere) simply leave and relocate, their home countries will never improve. It is their patriotic duty to resist oppression and improve their own states - of which they never cease being proud. People say these refugees are resilient and courageous - but they are all apparently in flight from challenges, opting for a soft-touch easier life, usually at someone else's expense.

If you're being invaded, one could consider sinking those NGO boats...just a thought.

Great questions and great answers albeit very concerning.

18:00 I'd happily call someone from Hong Kong British, if that's how they thought of themself. I think it's odd that a fellow Brit might not. I think of Britishness as being just as much an attitude to life, as it is anything to do with your nationality. The United Kingdom is full of people who I don't consider British, because *they* don't consider themselves British-regardless of whether or not they were born here.

why does nobody look into what Ghaddafi was doing to keep the flow relatively low all those years? because we all know, and we cant do anything like that or people will call us mean names

These people flee their countries yet cannot escape themselves. You simply cannot escape your own mindset - and your mindset is the main cause of your reality. Highly intelligent people like Douglas are the true and only minority in the world, everybody else ist mostly a victim of his own ego. Greetings from a Croatian.

Where in Europe will it kick off first.. There's a reason why Governments are letting their country's be over run with opposite cultures.. Look at South Africa and be afraid very afraid.. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

15:35 - Douglas: "...we have massively overestimated our ability to integrate people..." I think, the problem goes deeper. Our mistake was to ignore that integration is an *active process*, much like learning. One could "be welcomed" (like a guest). But one cannot "be integrated", only integrate oneself. If you don't want to learn a language, culture, system of norms, traditions, values and laws etc., then nobody can teach you. But integrating is hard and all incentives for it are undermined, when you can simply join your own foreign enclave.

It's not impossible, they just don't want to do it, all the main stream parties are the same.

I was in Florence not that long ago and there were what appeared to be Pakistani vendors aggressively hawking these flying light toys in Piazza del Duomo. It was just so out of the character of the place to have people pursuing us and trying to get our kids to nag us to buy their toy, it was jarring. I wanted to tell them "this is not Italian!!!"

The Great Replacement is definitely not happening.

Everyone should watch this - so TRUE.

Chris: "I assume one wants to perpetuate the culture of Europe, rather than..." Douglas: "Don't assume that, Chris! Don't assume that." ... replace it? SPOT ON. Please discuss replacement migration next time as well as the positions of the UN and the WEF towards it.

We need a National Tackling Antiwhiteism Action Plan

In my experience of dealing with people from Hong Kong, they are educated and respectful people, they try their best to speak English and they’re incredibly polite during those moments where communication is difficult…it make a difference…they are either independently wealthy or fully intending to be useful members of society! They don’t just turn up illegally, with no money and no plan…no ability to support or provide for themselves

The absurdity of FC censorship.. Having to jitter around the edges instead of just speaking openly and directly

My thanks to each. Carry on!

Great content no interrupting

Hilary Clinton’s Middle East policy has had horrible ramifications.

Praise Jesus for Murray👏🎁

Very good discussion.

Wow! I don’t understand why they are not allowed to defend their country borders . Why Santini and the woman from Denmark get into big trouble merely for enforcing the borders.!!?? And the charity and NGOs are allowed to ship illegal migrants to countries ports, and the law cannot do anything against them, but must let them land or they will get in trouble for not doing so. I can understand, rescuing people that are in grave danger, but not for letting them in illegally after that

Britain needs to leave the ECHR.

Caldwell's the best. No over-emoting, no exaggerations, just cold, brutal facts.

The enemy is in the home office how many ethnics are in there?

It is not impossible, all part of the plan.

Use 💣 mines, barbwire, gunboats.

Douglas is right on.

Christopher Caldwell seems to read French books in the original as I spot La Pléïade editions and others on his bookshelves.

Great…. Remind me to scratch Italy off my list of awesome places to visit

Its not imposible but Governments are treating their indiginous populations with disrespect. Its their Country no one has any right to let this happen against the will of course he people.

The "law" actually for signatories of the UN Convention on Refugees is to admit all people fleeing or claiming to flee persecution or harm. You don't have to keep all of them but they all have to get hearings and be processed... ie. there's no legal mechanism to prevent people from stepping on shore and claiming asylum.