I always thought of it as one of those "certain point of view" situations. Especially from Yodas high and mighty viewpoint. Those who were trained at the temple and survived strayed too far from the path in Yodas eyes, and those who came after were never taught enough to start their journey. At that moment in time Luke was the only true Jedi in the galaxy. Others would be taught and redeemed, but Luke was the last Jedi.

This is why I like your channel so much you never take anything at face value and always go deeper into the star wars lore with your own veiw of it. Keep up the good work wave.

Imagine 10000 jedi and 100 survivors it's still a 99% sucess

Even if we treat the “ten thousand Jedi Knights” figure as a definitive count and assume it includes every single Youngling, Padawan, Knight, and Master, and a thousand of those survived across the galaxy, escapees of Knightfall, Clone War battlefields, and everything in between, and a thousand of them survived… that’s still a 90% overall success rate. You really can’t have too many Jedi survivors with that kind of proportion.

10,000 Jedi Knights does not take into account the number of Masters, Padawans, and so forth and so on just Jedi Knights. There could be thousands of Jedi all unaccounted for.

Even before the introduction of all these new survivors, it was always implied that several jedi survived Order 66. In ANH, Obi-Wan said that Vader hunted the jedi down over the years of the Empire. So even if they survived the initial attack, they did eventually die fighting the Empire like Kanan and Cere. In ROTS, Obi-Wan and Yoda went back to the jedi temple after the purge to shut down the beacon before to prevent more jedi from dying. By the time of the OG trilogy, the only known active survivors are Obi-Wan and Yoda that we always knew, Ahsoka and Baylan who no longer are considered jedi, and Grogu who is still too young to actually fight.

Surviving order 66 is one thing, surviving the Great Jedi Purge is another. We also know that palpatine had selectively spared many Jedi to form the Inquisitorius post order 66. Though many would not survive Vader's evolution of them when he took command of the organization.

No, exactly what had to happen happened but luckily the Firce must always be in balance. Or else....

I'm pretty sure even in Legends atleast 100 Jedi survived.

"Last of the jedi will you be. Except for those other ones that i know are around. But I'm not counting any of them. They never visit 😤" - Yoda: Empire Strikes Back

I don't have any issues with all the Jedi who have survived Order 66, I only have an issue with all these Jedi surviving past return of the Jedi. Such as Ahsoka and Ezra

I thought the spoiler alert was for bad batch and scrolled past it, then was like, wait I get it.

Thank you, but like the Knights of the old republic when Raven wrist is life for Eden, the inquisitors no what a Jedi is in Obi-Wan Kenobi series

It is not possible to kill all the Jedi. During the First Jedi Purge that began during the Mandalorian wars until the final defeat of the triumvirate on Malachor V, the order was decimated but there were still Jedi alive. If the force demands balance then neither the jedi or Sith can really be destroyed.

My question is how many jedi survived order 66 how many actuality survived the jedi purge and when did the survivors return when Luke Skywalker rebuild the order

I always found it completely unbelievable that yoda and obi wan were all that was left. I'm fine with 100 maybe 200 survivors. Many went mad many gave up some ran away and some fought.

I think that Yoda is right about how most of the Jedi who survived the purge abandoned their posts before Luke came. And I still believe that Luke is still the last of the Jedi

Well, this is very interesting and Inlightening to fans that have questions on how there are still Jedi after the initial wave of order 66. I for one just learned that the Jedi purge time frame is the second step that Palpatine took after the initial wave of order 66. Like a realization that an old disk game for console actually came with a second part and us the other half of the story. (FYI for some people wondering, there used to be some games that were packaged with two disks in the past. It was a way to fit data space into disks without over craming and causing unforseen problems with the overall gameplay. I think this was before blu-ray disks and system memory of consoles could handle huge amount of data within one disk or system. [Was even before we could easily download and store data in our consoles]) Least that is what I remember, if I'm mistaken or it needs clarification, please feel free to update and inform this comment.😁👍

For me, it's not the number or even fact that jedi survived Order 66 and the Purge, it's how much Disney Canon is using it as a story crutch. Much like how they watered down Qui-gon Jin's death by writing in so many other people surviving being stabbed through the stomach by a lightsaber as he was.

This figure does not include the Jedi service corps. Hundreds, potentially thousands, of them survived. The farmers, healers, economists, and explorers of the Jedi order. Too frequently overlooked. These would have been the ones taken out in the subsequent purge.

Kanan Jarrus was knighted in that one episode of rebels correct me if I’m wrong

I think in Lucas head canon, he intended there to be only a few Jedi left. Obi Wan and Yoda most of all. The original trilogy kept stating Luke was the last and only hope for galaxy. But Legends and Disney Canon liked to explore the possibilities of other survivors.

actually I’m glad there are many Jedis that Survived Order 66

As far as i am concerned the problem is too many of the clone wars era jedi made it but hey im not the writers

No. Not enough survived

Order 66 was the Starting Line while the Jedi Purge was the Marathon, with the Jedi racing against the Sith and the Empire towards the finish line, as in which side would outlast the other. 10,000 Jedi Knights, Masters, Padawans, and even Younglings were ruthlessly and mercilessly killed, with, as you stated, about 98 and a half percent remaining, which could be interpreted as nearly 150 Jedi surviving Order 66. But the Jedi Purge lasted decades, spearheaded by Darth Vader, with the assistance of the inquisitors, storm troopers, imperial officers, bounty hunters, and sometimes even common citizens (like that foolish farmer who sold out Ahsoka and got his entire village torched and slaughtered) The majority of Order 66 survivors were padawans, younglings, some knights, and all too few masters, and one could say some of these Jedi weren't even involved in the Clone Wars at all, which is what enabled them to survive Order 66 and even the entirety of the Imperial Era (if u count the Legends continuity) Since most of the survivors of Order 66 were padawans or even younglings, they were vulnerable, inexperienced, traumatized, and essentially orphaned by the loss of the Order and their own Masters and teachers, like Cal Kestis and Caleb Dume (later known as Kana Jarrus). This made it easy for Vader, the inquisitors, and even bounty hunters to hunt down these inexperienced Jedi and wipe them out. More experienced Jedi were hunted down by Vader, as well as imperial forces, who used their oppression of the people in order to lure jedi out in a vain and foolish attempt to help the people who were oppressed, only to wander into the imperials' web. So many Jedi sadly died and were killed by the Empire during its reign, as evidenced by the Inquisitors' fortress, where they kept a "trophy room" full of their jedi victims on display And even as the Jedi survivors dwindled, Vader, the inquisitors, and even the imperials didn't stop hunting since they shifted some of their focus towards the Children of the Force, new generations of force-sensitive children whom they sought in order to recruit or kill, to prevent them from becoming jedi. Ezra Bridger was essentially lucky to have been born in the outer rim world of Lothal, since it made him more isolated from the imperial forces and harder for him to be identified as force-sensitive or even sensed by Vader and the inquisitors. Fans can be a little nitpicky in SW details that they forget the greater nuances and subtleties of the details and intricacies of what's going on in the SW universe. To be honest, i never thot there were too many survivors at all, becuz the more Jedi you hear of that are still around feels like it gives the galaxy more hope, and even the loss of a single jedi durignthe imperial era can be disheartening. such as that poor young Jedi who went to Obi-wan for help on Tatooine, only to wind up dead and his body hung on display for the locals to see True, not all survivors made it and not all survivors stayed on the Jedi path, which is perfectly understandable. The Jedi lost essentially everything and their Order was so utterly devastated it would be completely unrealistic for none to have continued on w/o giving up. Obi-wan's message for all the survivors was to go into hiding, and he even declared the time of the Jedi was over. But in time a new hope would emerge. That hope was Luke, and it was Luke's faith in the goodness his mother had told Obi-wan still remained in Luke's father that ultimately saved the galaxy, vanquished the emperor, and redeemed Anakin Skywalker

What I never understood was how Anakin was an expectant father and kills kids? That wasn't good writing. They should have said the 501st killed the kids and left it like that. Anakin going to kill all the actual Jedi Knights and Masters was enough.

It’s plausible though, some jedi were either with no clones or not a lot of clones were they could escape and survive Also the order was extremely successful a large majority of the Jedi were killed

Wasn’t Kanin knighted in the temple

Of course you can say that there were 10k Jedi out there, but for the audience, when all we saw were a handful, and even less with defined personalities, it makes sense to consider "too many survivors" Especially when the survivors get more fleshed out than the Clone Wars era Jedi

Thought it'd cool for a young Padawan still under yoda to secretly become a grey Jedi before the purge learn of it weeks ahead erased his records then disappeared without a trace.

120 out of 10,000 and that is just the ones that are known so there could be more than that.

They had to. Otherwise you'd have no stories to tell.

It makes sense that some survived, since not all were in the temple, or even serving with the clones in battle. Some were not even within the territory of the Republic, but were in unknown space. That said, Luke was the "last" from Yoda's perspective because he WANTED to be a Jedi and carry on its mission. Other survivors had given up on the order and mission after the betrayal of Order 66 and purge.

I said this in a past video but I think Yoda told Luke what he did, to build Luke's confidence and make him want to succeed, even if Luke thought he was the last

There's a planet in the Unknown Regions which has at least 200,000 more Jedi frozen in carbonite, ready to be unthawed in case of any great need by the writers.

At the end of the day, Order 66 did it's job by killing most of the Jedi scattered across the galaxy but also making it nearly impossible for them to reform as a group during the reign of the Empire. I'd argue that the Jedi Purge also made sure that reforming the order was next to impossible. The survivors that we've seen haven't really been able to resurrect the Jedi Order until Luke came along, regardless of their rank before Order 66 and the Jedi Purge; chances some did try but we can always assume Vader and/or the Inquisitors stopped that from happening. The galaxy is a big place at the end of the day and depending on where each survivor was at the time they probably assumed they were the last ones or gave up like most if not everyone else. Even if Yoda had look to the other surviving Jedi in the galaxy chances are they might not have been able to really resurrect the Jedi Order based on their own feelings after the events and just their capabilities as a whole, no matter what their rank was. Besides, Luke managed to defeat the Emperor by changing Vader and we all know no one else in the galaxy could do that except for him and (maybe) Leia.

Yoda was dead and had no eyes with which to look through when Luke redeemed Vader. Luke asked him if he were an official Jedi on Dagobah and Yoda told him NO. Right before he died. He told him he had to confront Vader first. Then you have to look at the sheer volume of training Luke missed growing up without someone to train him. Yet he becomes powerful enough to beat Vader. But if you think all of that is poor writing. How did Luke go all those years without experiencing precognition, telekinesis and any other force power that even his Father felt as a child. The closest we get is him admitting animal cruelty using the force. And if he were killing things with the force, why didn't he start to turn dark? And why didn't Obi Wan train him the whole time. HUGE plot holes made by the prequels unfortunately. Looks like they will need to remake the originals with new actors and rewrite some of the dialog to make it all gel.

Order 66 is not just for the jedi but for force welders in general.

The Jedi were destroyed at the hands of one Skywalker it would come back to life under another Skywalker. As for the number who survived, I do lean towards thinking too many survived but I also think this explanation is reasonable too.

Can you make a video on dis the empire ever hunted force sensitives who were not Jedi

Didn’t Yoda telepathically confer the status of Jedi onto Kanan in the temple on Lothal during Rebels though?

I agree with pretty much everything in this video. People also need to make the distinction between being a force-sensitive and being a Jedi. Jedi and Sith are orders or organizations or religions, and it isn't mandatory to belong to one of those orders just because you are force-sensitive.

I don't think to many survived but I do find it hard to believe that with how active they still were that somehow Kal and Ahsoka wouldn't have had some sort of relevance during the events of the OG trilogy

As long as it doesn't get too out there

I agree with your analysis. It made very good sense. 🙏🏻

I would say all this explanation can be resumed with this. He was the Last Jedi he would train. He is his legacy. Nothing more is needed to be said. He could have saved 10 minutes here.

All 3 of the og padawans got trough their knighting trials: For Ahsoka council was ready to consider her court trial as knight trial if she decided to return to the order. Cal's Quest for the Holocron was also a formal trial with a formal knighting ceremony. Not to mention Kanan was knighted by the force. Also all of them are more "new jedi" then Luke, at least in canon. So what yoda "le coward" thinks or says absolutely does not represent reality.

I believe that you can't always guarantee that your plan will be 100% successful because their will always be loose threads to deal with. So with that in mind its only natural to belive that their were a decent number of jedi who survived order 66.

Within the in lore universe I do believe it makes sense to have a couple hundred Jedi survive.

Strange thing about this situation is that there is still a growing number of new Jedi, that Disney is creating or bringing back to life just after order 66. This could be annoying for some.

10,000 Jedi at the start of the Clone Wars. Most died or left the Order due to the War. 100 Jedi survived Order 66. The Purge killed nearly all of them and the apostates. Though some joined the Empire. Maybe as much as 2 dozen Jedi or former Jedi made it to year 0. By the End of Return of the Jedi, the only ones left where some apostates.

During the Original Trilogy Obi-Wan and Yoda sincerely believed that they were the last survivors of their Order, cramming two decades of training into a few weeks to try and bring Luke up to speed. Without being able to reach out to other survivors through the Force, they honestly believed that the rest of their community were dead.

Can you make a video on how Luke taught at his academy and how did he fell so far in the last Jedi

It depends on the crux of your argument here: On the premise that yoda and kenobi survived ensuring Luke eventually would have been trained yes. Numerically though no too many did not survive many of those Jedi weren’t trained or capable of creating a successful order. Luke was the only one who could do both lead a new order and be capable of defending himself against the empire.

This was an interesting look into an interesting subject

Hypocrisy! Yoda and Obi-Wan both abandoned their own duties and went into hiding too! More, Yoda was suddenly willing to forget things like the age restriction for Jedi apprentices. So it can just as readily be argued that Obi-Wan and Yoda were no longer "Jedi" either, and had no business judging anybody else. They didn't even try to rally the survivors and gather them in some remote location so as to begin a new Order. Luke was *not* qualified to do so, as even by the broadest measurement his training was mere *months* and he had *no* personal experience with how the old Order had functioned. He was as much a Bokken Jedi as Ezra Bridger!

is yoda wearing anakins pedant from padme @3.20?

Wouldn’t it have been risky to have purge survivors like Kakruk and Katarn join Luke’s new Jedi order? I would’ve thought they’d potentially harm (albeit unintentionally) Luke’s teachings of what a Jedi is truly meant to be by tainting it with the flawed dogmatic teachings of the old order that was indoctrinated into them.

Out of 10k jedis it certainly should be less than 100, my opinion is it should be 50 or less. After all Vader hunted them all down. Eluding Vader is and aconplishment in its own right. Not to mention being able to side step the omnipresent empire. I think took many are now in play between ROTS and ANH.

Even one would be too much

How come the jedi forgotten about the rebels jedi because the original sith when into exile again a long time ago

I’d say yes. But what do I know? I’m just a Force Acolyte

Last of the old order, first of the new

Thats not fair the jedi were ordered to go into hiding, by obi wan kenobi.

As Successfull as Order 66 was, i still think the First jedi purge caused by the Sith Triumvirate is the most successfull Purge in star wars history. Killing almost all jedi, while in the meantime making so not a single jedi wanted to fight back cuz the sith could sense and track them down from half a galaxy away and send Sith Assassins to them. The stronger the jedi was, the stronger the Sith got. I as a jedi would hide more of that then Order 66.

No, there was once so many Jedi. There was enough to patrol a Galaxy at peace Even after countless Jedi died in the clone wars, there was still enough left to be hunted in Order 66 Even if there are dozens to maybe hundreds of survivors, the Sith still succeeded in destroying the Jedi as both an organization and a galactic institution They’re hunted and cursed as criminals to the galactic populace the Jedi once protected The survivors are separated and unable to unite to be a unified threat against the Sith and Empire Palpatine wasn’t concerned of the Jedi rising again, because they as a group are too broken and disunited to happen again It wasn’t until Luke and unknowingly Leia did they become New Hopes to get out of the Dark Times, and restart the Jedi as a new organization Until then as long as the Empire is in power, as long as the Sith’s word is galactic law, the Jedi coukdnt be a true threat

Considering this is a galaxy of quintillions of living beings I think this 100 odd survivors is not a lot in the slightest. Plus the whole yoda statement of being the “last Jedi” was made somewhat less impactful long before now, what with legends doing it first in having dozens of surviving Jedi join Luke’s order, and others long before that having taken up arms against the empire. So really I don’t think that there’s too many, in a galaxy like that with tens of thousands of planets it would be basically considered extinct or even close to it, especially since they were criminalised by the empire and no longer hold a prominent role in galactic society like they did for millennia before then, it stands to reason that they would largely be considered a dead religion.

I would say too many Jedi were retcon to survive order 66. Remember originally it was just two.

Oh hell yeah. I like Legends continuity better because all the people who have force abilities are younger than Vader and most where born after the fall of the Old Republic. When George Lucas said ALL JEDI died that is Canon. He is the guy you made the whole damn thing. Everyone who popped up after Disney killed Star Wars are apart of the reason Star Wars is Nothing these days.

Dare I say Luke is the first of the new Jedi Order and not the last of the old order.

IMO yes, Disney keeps adding more and more jedi that survived. The point of Luke being the last was that he was actually the last...turns out he wasn't turns out there were tons of jedi that survived...waters down and hurts the story. Disney has done an awful job.

In my opinion, there are not enough jedi that survived order 66. There were 10,000 during revenge of the sith. If it was up to me, 998 jedi would live. During the 20 years time gap i would have vader and the inquisitor hunted down 526 jedi. While the rest helped luke create a brand new jedi order.

Luke was the last of a certain type of Jedi, the only Jedi who could fight the Sith

It was never realistic that 10000 of force users could be killed so easily, that is also why i never buy that the Jedi wiped the Sith species from the galaxy at the end of the Old Republic era.

IF there's truly an was 10,000ish Jedi when Op. NightFall happened.. A.K.A. Order 66.. which has been a closely guarded secret for DECADES the real question is IF just 1% of Jedi survived. In TRUTH VERY EVEN EXTREMELY few Jedi have in truth survived to the latest shows. We've seen what??? Maybe 20 or 30 of them or so rough estimate from the latest games, books, comics, shows an movies all combined. SO if anything shouldn't we have round some 50 or 60ish or so unaccounted for Force Users we have NO idea if the Fell, died, gave up the jedi way, was eventually KIA, etc... we don't even know they're identities, species or genders. Which is why knowing HOW MANY give or take or for sure there was when 66 happened would be very important cuz if there was alot more.. or less.. or if we don't even know how many died in total then we can't tell conclusively if 120ish survivors is alot or not. It sure SOUNDS like an 98 to 99 percent killed rate for the whole order if 10,000 was ALL the Jedi there was. So there's like said a great deal of Jedi MIAs in truth not known what happened.

problem imho is the overpresence of order 66 survivors in the disney output, as alluded to in the video. A reflection of Disney's lack of originality and generally bad craftsmanship imho...

Just enough of them to keep it interesting.

First of all, they're jedi. How are you gonna expect ALL of them to go down? Especially when there's near 10,000? Second, the order has lost so much more than that at once before.

As far as I’m concerned man did survive but were hunted down and killed by Darth Vader and company and only Obi-Wan and Yoda were the last 2️⃣ until Luke.

Anakin/Vader should of been more like Dooku in the way he fell to the dark side but the last straw for leaving the order was when The Jedi nearly had Obi Wan offed yeah.

Jedi who were the #TDBank💳 card holder survived the purge... 🌎💘💸

IF Yoda considered those who abandoned their posts as not Jedi - why did he do what he did in Revenge of the Sith? Sending out the message for them to stay away? He didn't stop Obi Wan from sending out that message at the very least....

Yes

I always found the criticism of broom boy to be weak. Its not to say that anybody can be force sensitive, but that force sensitive ones could be found anywhere. Not everyone that showed an affinity with tue force had a lineage supporting it. So there was a great potential for Luke to rebuild.

We need an order 66 show with vader actually hunting down jedi

Nope. In the original movie Kenobi tells us, that Vader helped the Emperor hunt down the Jedi. How would he have done it, if there weren't survivors of Order 66? Also, original Trilogy takes precedence. :P

Actually answer = YES But… “does it matter?”. 999999999 nameless Jedi die. Only “somewhat interesting” characters die in the movie. Ploo Koon, Alysa Secura, Starfighter game lady, etc. Order 66 took the political power away from Yoda and that’s what matter. However there are 99999 stories of Jedi on the Empire era, which do by all means make you question “why didn’t anyone go help Luke?”. Consider the movies ONLY for a change. They do make it seem like all the pieces fall in place and the important characters show their origin on prequels and do the stuff one OT. But now add Ashoka or Obi Wan fighting Vader pre Episode 4 and now we enter a new realm. The kind of mindset that gave birth to Jake Skywalker and the death of Star Wars on Episode 8. Please people. Stop being fanboys for 2 seconds and consider just how much would you allow story tellers to get away with!

Explaining it this way the answer is no

No, it's not too many and I'll explain. Order 66 was to eradicate the Jedi, and while 99% of them were eliminated, not all were. Sidious may have been cunning and super smart, but as Luke said in ROTJ "You're overconfidence is your weakness", I believe Palpatines plan was mostly successful but not complete. His goal was control of the galaxy and the Jedi out of the way which was achieved. And not every Jedi were as idiotic as Windu or Mundi, some trusted only the force and that's what saved them. Only the ones who blindly followed the council were eradicated. And as Vader said "Nothing is impossible for the force". This line for many Jedi who did survive meant, the force will guide us to safety. Sidious was flawed, even though he didn't see it.

I’m going to enjoy watching this Video.

100000 Jedi surviving,then 100 is still success. Order 66 was MASIVELY successful! I agree. Not many Jedi survived Order 66. That's not much. May the Force be with you too😊

No there are not “To many Order 66 survivors” 🤦🏾‍♂️. The order served it’s purpose & toke out the main hub of the Jedi’s strong hold via Coruscant. The main members who posed a threat of resistance during that time got killed off almost immediately 👏🏾. The galaxy is large , a Jedi could have hid anywhere , been anywhere or been doing anything at the time of Operation KnightFall so survival of this in small numbers isn’t unlikely. Some jedi may have not even been in the main galaxy during that time either , it’s a big place , the order wasn’t meant to kill everyone BUT 99.9% of them that’s all ✅. #GoodVideoBro👏🏾

Yes. Should only be ashoka, yoda, and obi wan. Retconning the rest is lazy and cheapens the impact of order 66 almost like it never happened.

Stupendous, thank you so much for teaching many people basic math with this video. I still find it amazing how Star Wars fans are complaining about Order 66 survivors still. You presented this video with straight numbers, as well as the different paths taken by so many different individuals. I personally think that there were easily over 100 Jedi survivors. In my mind, I imagine that there were 66 (ironic) Jedi who survived, but were never seen or heard from ever again. That being rather they completely disappeared off the face of the Galaxy in hiding, or Vader and Company sliced them out. Then, there would be a strong number of about 27 that simply went dark. Rather it was for their own survival with the Empire as inquisitors, or, kind of like Baylan Skoll they felt betrayed by the order, and went down a darker path on their own. From there I would easily add about two dozen Jedi who actively fought against the empire in one capacity or another. And some of them did this in a method of hiding like Obi-Wan. He was still actively against the empire by protecting Anakin's child. And, many of these Jedi were sliced down by Darth Vader. Then I would say there may be 20 more after that. And I would say maybe about a dozen of them would celebrate the victory over the empire, but would go on to live ordinary public lives because they ended up starting a family or found a good job that gave them purpose while hiding, and they really loved it, or something like that. They appreciate the Jedi but have grown past it and felt it unnecessary to be part of the order again. And then of course, you'd have a solid one or two handfuls of Jedi who would return to the order after all had settled down and joined Luke. See, all that I just put down here on this comment, and that's still quite a bit under 150 survivors to order 66 out of roughly 10,000 Jedi. That is still right in the neighborhood percentage of what this video represented at 98.5% Jedi who were killed in order 66. I don't see the problem with this. Thanks again guys for another great video. Can't wait to see your next one, and I hope your video gets seen by the masses to put this argument down. p.s. when's the next horrendous wave video coming out? I really like that channel too. You guys looking for some content writers??? My hand is raised!!!😊👋👋

Noo there not

many*

The complaint isn't framed correctly by most people. It's not that too many survived. It's more a case of burnout because it's become a very contrived, convenient plot device to use a survivor of the Purge in stories now. Whatever novel quality it used to have is long gone.

I whole heartedly agree with you the stupendous wave. I get into so many conversations with my friends about this.

Yoda is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black if he thought Jedi in hiding were no longer Jedi. He hid on Dagobah doing absolutely nothing for decades while some rogue padawan scrapper fought the Empire across the galaxy including on Coruscant.