DEBATE: Hasan Piker vs Charlie Kirk, Politicon 2018

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Two of the best and brightest young minds from opposite sides of the political spectrum have a rematch at Politicon to settle the question of whether young people should be liberal or conservative once and for all.
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@MrBobkilla
@MrBobkilla 5 жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree that the moderator lost this debate.
@danielremy7826
@danielremy7826 5 жыл бұрын
MrBobkilla 😂🤣😂🤣
@popdop0074
@popdop0074 4 жыл бұрын
Too nice to be a moderator...
@Mark-xw5yt
@Mark-xw5yt 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him. He’s getting more hate in this comment section (at least at the top) than charlie and hassan are.
@popdop0074
@popdop0074 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-xw5yt Yeah, I do agree... Though some of the hate is deserved
@gusmarin6031
@gusmarin6031 3 жыл бұрын
@@popdop0074 Literally remove the moderator from the debate, and nothing changes
@albertomoreno-torres7776
@albertomoreno-torres7776 3 жыл бұрын
This is just Charlie expecting a Liberal but getting a Leftist
@Hasteetta
@Hasteetta 3 жыл бұрын
thats not the same thing?
@Manic0987654321
@Manic0987654321 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hasteetta They are absolutely not the same thing.
@beatlesandoasis6631
@beatlesandoasis6631 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hasteetta Educate your damn self.
@tomorowsnobodys
@tomorowsnobodys 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hasteetta lmao imagine embarrassing yourself like this
@tpags7398
@tpags7398 3 жыл бұрын
@@beatlesandoasis6631 what’s your favorite song on pinkerton
@donwan7817
@donwan7817 5 ай бұрын
Hasans idea of debating is to insult and mock your opponent instead of providing sound counter arguments
@gonky3342
@gonky3342 4 ай бұрын
Charles literally melted down at the end lmao hasan cooked him
@mrpumperknuckles1631
@mrpumperknuckles1631 4 ай бұрын
@@gonky3342Charlie actually provided a reasonable argument and provide actual talking points. Hasan provided no real information in their argument. Hasan literally had a history of being a pyramid scheming loser even with his own editors can’t even give a real good reason for not paying his editors. Literally this happened with over 4 different editors in 3 years all came out about how shit he paid his workers and even then he will claim those editors aren’t his employees making some stupid claim like “they were contract business agreement as a contractor” which is also not a good excuse because contractors hands out contracts to people labeled under their employment. In any business structure if someone is working to create any form of product or service is considered a form of employment agreement. Under law you have to have them as an employee…
@donwan7817
@donwan7817 4 ай бұрын
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 Don't forget that the other day Hasan said you should be arguing in bad faith in a debate. Shows what kind of person he is. He doesn't care about the facts, all he cares about is optics and pandering to his audience. He'll know that he's wrong about something but will never concede because he's entirely dishonest.
@killcount4750
@killcount4750 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂​@@gonky3342
@jesseking2960
@jesseking2960 4 ай бұрын
@@gonky3342😆 that’s the funniest joke I’ve heard in a while ngl
@alexanderyang3145
@alexanderyang3145 Ай бұрын
I’m disappointed in myself to think that Hasan could have had a valid argument that he could support and hold to evidence. Unprofessional, foul language, interrupted the whole debate. Argument full of holes and cried like a victim baby. Goes to Charlie.
@anishkuvelkar1876
@anishkuvelkar1876 Ай бұрын
he owned charlie
@jacobvest3750
@jacobvest3750 Ай бұрын
Yea, everything you said is class Hassan. I don’t have content, I only have “bruh” and interrupting and shifting the conversation away from having to explain a single thing.then you have people like the person commenting above me, that’s so incredibly ignorant they fall for it
@Gaber8845
@Gaber8845 Ай бұрын
​@@jacobvest3750These debates are pointless. Everyone hears what they want. No one walks a way having their mind changed.
@cowsbacon5498
@cowsbacon5498 Ай бұрын
@@anishkuvelkar1876you didn’t watch the video 😹
@JappyChan
@JappyChan 12 күн бұрын
Bro, did you even watch the first 10 mins? Hassan annihilated Charlie. I mean Charlie couldn't even answer a simple question and even raised his voice FIRST. Charlie got obliterated so hard he had to change the actual subject, hahaha.
@enjoiskate13579
@enjoiskate13579 3 жыл бұрын
The difference in drip is jarring.
@jerryryans2235
@jerryryans2235 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisguy9733 what does that have to do with anything,, we’re talking about the drip sir.
@jerryryans2235
@jerryryans2235 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisguy9733 money doesn’t buy drip you can be rich but not have drip. even if one had money when they were younger,, they both have money now,, so there’s no excuse
@jerryryans2235
@jerryryans2235 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisguy9733 you deadass just want a moment to shit on hasan for having a job from nepotism,, when it has nothing to do with anything.
@jorisessen8410
@jorisessen8410 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerryryans2235 dont feed the troll
@maxholmes4022
@maxholmes4022 3 жыл бұрын
What is drip?
@stuffedlife7312
@stuffedlife7312 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie: “Socialism causes Death!” Hasan: “People die from Capitalism as well...” Charlie: “Death is unforunate” XD
@stuffedlife7312
@stuffedlife7312 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenjoke10 I’m not even a socialist I just find that argument ironic...
@Jaylio
@Jaylio 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenjoke10 “no one has ever killed anyone in the name of capitalism” so you’re gonna ignore literally every war started/funded by the US?
@vinnylepre98
@vinnylepre98 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenjoke10 you understand that imperialism is part of capitalism right? you understand slavery was part of the capitalist system to generate as much profit as possible while producing the most product right?
@bimjean1053
@bimjean1053 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinnylepre98 Imperialism and conquering has always been caused by institutions with great power. Wether it has been capitalistic companies, imperialistic regimes or both of them working together. It‘s not about Capitalism or Socialism. It‘s about a single institution having too much power.
@n8mo
@n8mo 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenjoke10 Canadian here! Liberal social democracy rocks :) Additionally, Kirk derailed Hasan from the start; Hasan literally said within two minutes of the debate starting that socialism isn’t ideal, and instead that better regulation of markets and subsidies to improve quality of life are a good thing. *All* of Kirk’s talking points were about socialism and how poor Cuba and Venezuela are. Conveniently ignoring successful social democracies like Canada and most of Europe.
@ryanburkhart5188
@ryanburkhart5188 Ай бұрын
Just the fact that he's using words like "dog" and "dude" in a professional debate is bad
@anishkuvelkar1876
@anishkuvelkar1876 Ай бұрын
well, u hurt bro. he owned charlie
@angelkaate
@angelkaate Ай бұрын
@@anishkuvelkar1876using the word “owned” to defend his inappropriate vocabulary in a professional debate.. proving the original commenters point.
@lianjosua5669
@lianjosua5669 Ай бұрын
​@@anishkuvelkar1876 which debate did you watch?
@meanoldfatlady5071
@meanoldfatlady5071 Ай бұрын
​@@anishkuvelkar1876 Biased much? 29-28 for charlie
@JappyChan
@JappyChan 12 күн бұрын
Cool to know. Doesn't change the fact that he was spitting facts. If your problem is what words he's using (espeically if in a non-threatening or insulting way). Why are you so sensitive to the words he's using? Like is this you 🐶 😢
@jamesbasham1925
@jamesbasham1925 20 күн бұрын
Count the amount of times Charlie was able to talk for more than 30 seconds without Hasan interrupting him. Frustrates me!! Hasan has to interrupt Charlie because he knows Charlie is right
@apriljk6557
@apriljk6557 5 жыл бұрын
Kirk thinks he's debating a centrist Democrat.
@jordanbailey9654
@jordanbailey9654 5 жыл бұрын
Thats all he knows how to debate
@peterschancel7223
@peterschancel7223 5 жыл бұрын
Kirk isn't debating he is ranting
@leovolont
@leovolont 5 жыл бұрын
Hi April, Charlie Kirk is just a mouthpiece for his donors. He is there to make the same Talking Points no matter who he is debating.
@TheDoctorOfMDMA
@TheDoctorOfMDMA 4 жыл бұрын
Dying channel, dying political party. You all support the people that believe we deserved 9/11, congrats.
@bryant7369
@bryant7369 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. MDMA M.D. uhm we kinda did. 9/11 doesn’t happen if we don’t involve ourselves in the Middle East
@andre3st311
@andre3st311 3 жыл бұрын
Has won 40 seconds in when he outdripped charlie
@nickflynn5152
@nickflynn5152 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@noisedoom
@noisedoom 3 жыл бұрын
even the moderator outdripped him
@losvegan6382
@losvegan6382 3 жыл бұрын
fr, I liked the “I can barely fit in this chair”
@thelameg6
@thelameg6 3 жыл бұрын
the chad leftist vs the virgin small face
@romeoalpha68
@romeoalpha68 3 жыл бұрын
Capitalism didn't get the Prescription going . All the money for research comes from tax payers . Most medications are like that . Then got some reason our Government be let's Big Pharma rip us off . Prescription cost wouldn't be do high if we used Collective Bargaining. My Cancer Treatment cost me well over 150000 dollars. Even with Insurance , being a Veteran ( had to go outside of the VA ), I still had to take out a loan . That's wrong . Everyone is against Democratic Socialism . Until they get ill or something. COVID brought this country to it's knees . We'll be recovering from this for decades .
@timothyundie7271
@timothyundie7271 4 ай бұрын
The moderator absolutely failed.
@dominickcrouchelli7464
@dominickcrouchelli7464 3 жыл бұрын
Who is letting Charlie Kirk dress himself
@gabeg1863
@gabeg1863 3 жыл бұрын
the yeezys + mismatched blazer n denim combo is making me lose my shit
@talking_tree_0451
@talking_tree_0451 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabeg1863 jeans with a suit is a no
@sophiesong8937
@sophiesong8937 3 жыл бұрын
The narrow shoulders on the blazer, too.
@claypenner2443
@claypenner2443 3 жыл бұрын
Those kicks! 🤣
@CrimeEnjoyer
@CrimeEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
It's an old, proud institution of American conservatism to forever look like your mom still dresses you at any age.
@TheDavidsancab
@TheDavidsancab 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen anybody with as much inability to wear yeezys as much as Charlie Kirk lmaooo
@vuks-fj7fl
@vuks-fj7fl 3 жыл бұрын
He literally could've put anything else on and it would've looked better... literally anything.
@kevinahearn8764
@kevinahearn8764 3 жыл бұрын
@Chase Miller let’s not hate on anyone watching political debates on KZfaq. There are some really brain dead Channels on this app like 5 minute crafts or fortnite where people just waste their brains away 😆
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
@Holy Crusader exactly. We have some intellectuals here😆
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
@@vuks-fj7fl you must be very smart🤦‍♂️
@vuks-fj7fl
@vuks-fj7fl 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebri9161 ?
@ThomAJs13
@ThomAJs13 26 күн бұрын
Hasan said a whole lot of nothing. He spoke big words that sound good but never provided proof of evidence of what he said working. Any time Charlie would bring up a topic with actual evidence Hasan would focuse on one minute discrepancy, target that, and then change the whole topic of debate. Can see why Charlie got fed up with his delusion
@sincitytitan7118
@sincitytitan7118 26 күн бұрын
Then threw in a "dog" when he ran out of big words
@austin3011
@austin3011 13 күн бұрын
This comment is exactly true
@isaaclendor3616
@isaaclendor3616 9 күн бұрын
This hassan has the maturity of a literal child. No respect.
@user-yh1nm1vy3i
@user-yh1nm1vy3i 9 күн бұрын
How?
@GAMEOVER-yy6zj
@GAMEOVER-yy6zj 9 күн бұрын
U must be infant then!
@Alfaromero-wh8yk
@Alfaromero-wh8yk 7 күн бұрын
​@@user-yh1nm1vy3i hahahajahaaj
@JappyChan
@JappyChan 7 күн бұрын
as Charlie is yelling, making false beliefs, and cutting him off lol
@snackuilleomeal120
@snackuilleomeal120 2 жыл бұрын
Hasan: Let's just talk about America. Charlie: Proceeds to name every country he knows.
@cary1130
@cary1130 2 жыл бұрын
Because other country did practice socialism... and fall big time... Russian and Chinese fleet to American because there is no future for the average citizens . US is the number one choice because they know freedom, good college and usd is strong.
@snackuilleomeal120
@snackuilleomeal120 2 жыл бұрын
@@cary1130 ok.. In Denmark we have like the 2nd highest taxcut, college/education is free (we even get paid for going to school) This means that everybody actually have the same opportunities. Don't know about you, but that sound like freedom to me😉
@cary1130
@cary1130 2 жыл бұрын
@@snackuilleomeal120 sounds pretty awesome with a population only 5.7 million. Just LA along is nearly 3x of Demark population near 14 millions. since everything was distributed by the government from you own money through taxation (maybe you haven't earn a buck yet because you still in school) your choices become limit to government filter it for you. your sales tax is what 25% so if I need to get a milk for $1 I need to pay another 25%. every penny counts. why not keep majority of your own money that you earn (10% taxation) and take your money and your talent and skill study and start something. btw Bernie Sander keep using Denmark is socialist and your president said nope we are not socialist country...btw US been paying billion of dollar to protect you through NATO. that's another expense Denmark need now worry about. because US taxpayer is paying to protect you.
@snackuilleomeal120
@snackuilleomeal120 2 жыл бұрын
@@cary1130 lol I go to school and work in my spare time. I make like $900 every month. Nobody is really poor in Denmark because we take care of each other through our taxes, and destribute our resources well. This means that the extra 25% isn't the biggest deal. I pretty sure we are "social democratic" so I'm not sure which danish 'president' said we aren't
@cary1130
@cary1130 2 жыл бұрын
@@snackuilleomeal120 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/quB1g66jrcfQkY0.html
@user-zk1nl5nk4d
@user-zk1nl5nk4d 4 жыл бұрын
hasan: *breathes* charlie: soCIALisM Is Bad whY YoU HaTe sMall BUsiNeSSEs
@playboinxng4602
@playboinxng4602 4 жыл бұрын
??
@Therightisright
@Therightisright 3 жыл бұрын
J Funny you mention that, because besides breathing, all Hassan did was scream “ThAt’s StUpId” over and over. Dude didn’t give a single tangible fact about anything for an entire hour... yet the Young Turk clown posse is out here trying to alter the reality of this absolute slaughter at the hands of Charlie Kirk 🇺🇸
@anthonynuccio5657
@anthonynuccio5657 3 жыл бұрын
yimmychonga they both lost, kirk spouting off mostly unrelated data and then had a temper tantrum when asked to answer the same question he asked hasan. his entire argument also ignored basic economics and comparative politics. they both lost
@Kyle-fq4kq
@Kyle-fq4kq 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonynuccio5657 so wtf should we do then as a country
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism is good in some aspects, but full socialism is literally stealing
@chrismagalona9592
@chrismagalona9592 21 күн бұрын
Lol they actually called Hasan a bright youth?
@Thezedword12
@Thezedword12 5 ай бұрын
I can't stand Hasan honestly, he's just such a hipocrite.
@Thezedword12
@Thezedword12 5 ай бұрын
But I think I'm missing some context. It sounds charlie calls the dude in the in the audience chink at the end of the debate, like a racial slur. I take it that it's not that or that's all the comments would be about. Is it the dude's last name or something???
@BasedYanti
@BasedYanti 5 ай бұрын
@@Thezedword12 He was arguing with cenk uygur
@BBones541
@BBones541 4 ай бұрын
@@Thezedword12 He was the fat guy from the intro of this video Fun fact about Cenk, the Co-Creator of TYT and Hasan's uncle, he said on his show that if he became president he would legalize bestiality and that there is nothing wrong with having sex with animals lmao
@mrpumperknuckles1631
@mrpumperknuckles1631 4 ай бұрын
@@BBones541really??
@BBones541
@BBones541 4 ай бұрын
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 Yup, you can look it up
@GerardoGarcia-py3cl
@GerardoGarcia-py3cl 3 жыл бұрын
When Hasan speaks his argument or asks a question. Charlie: Cuba,North Korea,Zimbabwe, and Sovite Union, Socialism Bad.
@laurenperry346
@laurenperry346 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the National Socialist Party and North Korea
@Roguenight863
@Roguenight863 3 жыл бұрын
What went wrong at those places then...should we not try to learn from others mistakes?
@animposter4971
@animposter4971 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roguenight863 bruh
@Roguenight863
@Roguenight863 3 жыл бұрын
@@animposter4971 well... Hasan has never really rebuted the claims that socialism was the cause of the failure of those places. He only laughs, says the are unconnected and calls Charlie crazy for bringing them up. But I never got clear answer as to why they shouldn't be mentioned.
@kiwi7872
@kiwi7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@iTotallyJuust not really , when he mentioned venezuela and national worker socialist party , he had know what idea what he is talking about , because both of these things dont come under the category of socialism , and whenever conservatives talks about socialism or communism , they never mentioned what it actually means , they just keep saying its bad . everytime i have debated a conservative on socialism or communism , they never answer my question what it really means. Just like when charlie blindly said communism killed 100 million people , i have sources and studies to prove that communism never actually killed this many people and how many have died under capitalism, and i have sources also to prove that nazis and countries like cuba, venezuela, USSR, Stalin USSR, Mao's china and north korea ... they are neither socialist nor communists
@eliotttttt
@eliotttttt 3 жыл бұрын
For someone that hates socialism so much, Charlie seems to love being publicly owned.
@WookieeWarrior3000
@WookieeWarrior3000 2 жыл бұрын
This is really funny
@soheibgrabsi4166
@soheibgrabsi4166 2 жыл бұрын
good one
@rogerigez21
@rogerigez21 2 жыл бұрын
How on earth did Hasan own Charlie? Hahahahaha
@saongpark2423
@saongpark2423 2 жыл бұрын
Delusion of liberals has no bounds.
@duck8280
@duck8280 2 жыл бұрын
Bro did you watch the video? Charlie seeped the floor with this fool
@andygarcia1380
@andygarcia1380 5 ай бұрын
Hasan should not debate anyone. He doesnt know how to do it. Sounds like a whiny little baby and turns to insulting almost immediately
@mikehancho7172
@mikehancho7172 21 күн бұрын
Hasan cant stop moving the goal posts and when Charlie responds he cant stop yelling over him lmao hes a loser from the start
@zMrLegacyz
@zMrLegacyz Ай бұрын
Hasan’s argument is just getting loud and saying everything is stupid but has no real rebuttal
@ChifDelta
@ChifDelta 20 күн бұрын
Muslims are not good with facts.
@quickstergamestutorialsgam3899
@quickstergamestutorialsgam3899 18 күн бұрын
Yea I agree with some of Hasan's takes but this debate just sucked I have to agree that Charlie won this one and gave more compelling evidence for his side
@depthsofminds
@depthsofminds 3 жыл бұрын
why is there an audience member sitting in middle of Charlie and Hasan?
@CrimeEnjoyer
@CrimeEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
Moderator interference is just regulation in the marketplace of ideas.
@asteriskthegamingstar1891
@asteriskthegamingstar1891 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrimeEnjoyer lmao
@mephistofaustus6631
@mephistofaustus6631 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 idk it was so weird
@danschriver75
@danschriver75 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie: HASAN LET ME FINISH Also Charlie: alright hasan imma stop you right there and talk about Venezuela real quick
@MarcoelOsito
@MarcoelOsito 3 жыл бұрын
He let him finish more
@MarcoelOsito
@MarcoelOsito 3 жыл бұрын
He was answering,never mind 😂😂 these are fun honestly
@snowhateswinter4712
@snowhateswinter4712 3 жыл бұрын
did anyone count how many times charlie kirk says venezuala? it feels like a million LMAO
@legoindiecomments1344
@legoindiecomments1344 3 жыл бұрын
@@snowhateswinter4712 and CuBa
@Ensitrious1
@Ensitrious1 Жыл бұрын
Might be the most painful thing I’ve ever witnessed. They both did horrific as far as having the decency to not interrupt their opponent went but Charlie actually did so bad that he got me to side with Hasan on almost everything here.
@nick.9894
@nick.9894 4 ай бұрын
Hasan acts like a child. I can tell Charlie got sick of him bc he never loses his shit
@pnduarte4696
@pnduarte4696 4 ай бұрын
Sure cope harder boy charlie is a tool.
@danielaromangago7359
@danielaromangago7359 4 ай бұрын
He is an emotional little girl 😂
@snackdawg8417
@snackdawg8417 4 ай бұрын
Guess you didn’t watch the full thing through lmao
@AppleOfThineEye
@AppleOfThineEye 3 ай бұрын
@@danielaromangago7359 Ironic how the people who constantly call conservatives racists and sexists are the first to devolve to racist and sexist remarks lmao 😂😂
@Robert-vj9gx
@Robert-vj9gx 23 күн бұрын
Hassan didn't come ready 😂
@jasonmeng8674
@jasonmeng8674 23 күн бұрын
4 comments 😭😭😭 charlie doesnt know you bro 😭 zip it up when ur done
@thegawkgame2000
@thegawkgame2000 23 күн бұрын
@@jasonmeng8674u mad?
@jasonmeng8674
@jasonmeng8674 23 күн бұрын
@@thegawkgame2000 sadly not
@KyRogers
@KyRogers 23 күн бұрын
​@@thegawkgame2000cope
@meisme20
@meisme20 22 күн бұрын
@@jasonmeng8674maulding
@aberfork6031
@aberfork6031 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie proves that throwing out random numbers without context doesn't actually prove anything, also literally lying through his teeth, he said Cuba had a lower life expectancy then the US by 15 years when it's the same.
@frostymarbles2655
@frostymarbles2655 3 жыл бұрын
and the lowest aids rate in the world lmao too bad the country is so broken form sanctions by the US
@bigg2168
@bigg2168 3 жыл бұрын
Omg this comment made me look it up, jesus christ, he's a liar, Cuba's life expectancy is HIGHER than the US's
@Grande79
@Grande79 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, you actually believe statistics coming out of Cuba? Do you also believe The Covid #’ a pit of China?
@ttam2476
@ttam2476 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigg2168 of course he did start fact checking these idiots and read the studies they mention and you’ll realize they lie a lot more then you think
@michealscarn1324
@michealscarn1324 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grande79 Trusting only your own country’s media is an easy way to be brainwashed by propaganda.
@effinsheet
@effinsheet 3 жыл бұрын
Hasan: **breathes** Charlie: Venezuela, Vietnam, Cuba, Mao's China
@whimpy_ghost
@whimpy_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
ZIMBABWE, USSR, GUATEMALA
@oliverbrown9627
@oliverbrown9627 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro this argument is raising my fkn blood pressure idk how hassan keeps his cool
@lambeezy5014
@lambeezy5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@oliverbrown9627 Alright, what's your counter-point? Were any of these states successful?
@oliverbrown9627
@oliverbrown9627 2 жыл бұрын
​@@lambeezy5014 there are many countries where it has worked and hes just distracting from the argument by repeatedly listing these countries or cringely implying Hasan doesn't care about death. 10:38 Rather than listing or making tactless implications he should actually argue against the benefits of socialism that Hasan is supporting his argument with
@alpha98516
@alpha98516 2 жыл бұрын
10000 billion dead, vuvuzela, iPhone
@zachmoney716
@zachmoney716 4 ай бұрын
This moderator didn’t moderate shit this was annoying af
@JustAnotherCover
@JustAnotherCover Ай бұрын
Nah, when Hasan started talking about Cuba, he lost me. What a bunch of nonsense... The man doesn't know what he's talking about
@genevaict21
@genevaict21 3 жыл бұрын
They honestly needed to cut charlie's mic. He tries to make 8 different points and as soon as hasan refutes one he goes on a tangent.
@AT-vp8qw
@AT-vp8qw 3 жыл бұрын
Right. Honestly, what's the point of debates like this if they don't go through each point one by one. They always end up skipping over important points that I wish could be dwelled on a little more because one person wants to list 20 different points at once
@genevaict21
@genevaict21 3 жыл бұрын
@@AT-vp8qw facts dude
@Schnokers
@Schnokers 2 жыл бұрын
@@L4ck0Ski11 This is a debate that makes Charlie Kirk money, of course he's gonna grandstand and not actually engage in debate. Thats the point of these "debates" is to make sure he gets paid to "live like a capitalist" and be an enforcer of a capitalist system. Losing in capitalism means losing in survival.
@gubernational57
@gubernational57 Жыл бұрын
Wait what!? Charlie could barley get a word in. Hassan kept interrupting Charlie every other word and went on some communist diatribe. The reason Charlie had to rattle off his facts is because Hassan wouldn’t shut the hell up. Btw Hassan gave 0 facts and 0 sources for his arguments which Charlie did but people like Hassan don’t care about facts. Watch the debate again and you’ll see Hassan just whines about the country he lives in that allowed him to make the money he makes. He complains about how corrupt the government is yet wants to expand its power over us lol.
@AppleOfThineEye
@AppleOfThineEye 3 ай бұрын
"We need to silence those I disagree with!"
@MrG22333
@MrG22333 3 жыл бұрын
I really don’t think charlie has his own thoughts. It’s just a bunch of popular conservative taking points with no context.
@dziugas6795
@dziugas6795 3 жыл бұрын
he was declaring simple facts. I really dont know why are you so mad about facts, must be a snowflake:)
@4G3NTOR4NG3
@4G3NTOR4NG3 3 жыл бұрын
@@dziugas6795 Lmfao yea and I bet you don't get triggered by anything right? Get outta here you hypocritical snowflake.
@gory2905
@gory2905 3 жыл бұрын
@@4G3NTOR4NG3 he didn’t say anything about he triggered, he was talking about factual info that Charlie gave to the conversation and Hasan didn’t.
@supri5e703
@supri5e703 3 жыл бұрын
@@gory2905 Oh please. All Charlie said was basically socialism bad. He didn't bring any new facts or reasons why socialism would be bad to the table. Hasan did a decent job at trying to debate someone who is unwilling to look at any facts presented.
@gory2905
@gory2905 3 жыл бұрын
@@supri5e703 All Charlie said was Socialism bad, yes, with proven facts such as: 100 million people dead under socialism in last 100 years; Socialized medicine ruining the veteran’s system; Cuba life expectancy is 50 years; FDA disallowing entrepreneurs to compete against big Pharma; Regulations pricing out middle class consumers as corporations use it as a tool to go after small business owners. Oooo, and if that isn’t enough, here’s some specifics: Dodd-frank disallows community banks from competing against high level, national and or international ones, giving an 80% decrease in community banks; The Venezuelan government made the average Venezuelan lose 17 pounds, put it on the brink of civil war, gave a 40,000% inflation, took away any functioning economy and set a 42% unemployment in all of its exploitation from the lies of Karl Marx; most murderous, hopeless, and poor cities are run by democrats such as Philadelphia, Chicago, Oakland, Portland, Seattle and Milwaukee; Chicago has has the highest property taxes, institutional income tax, and debt. Also, if that wasn’t enough, here’s some stuff stated about how free market Capitalism is far better: $20,000 to $500 cost of LASIK eye surgery; Since it’s not covered by insurance, consumer can go straight to doctor so they know how much it costs, so prices went down, quality went up, and accessibility goes outward, that’s what happens with a market; anything costs less with competition; Free market capitalism is most successful ever, and the western civilization has been one of the greatest experiments ever; Life expectancy has doubled in the last 100 years in America. Plus, something no democrat wants to hear, COUNTRIES!!! Nothing like some proof, real, easy to find evidence starting with our beloved Venezuela, then to Zimbabwe, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, former Algeria, former Belarus, East Germany, Soviet Union, and Mao’s China. So, about Socialism is bad... your right!
@tmkim5129
@tmkim5129 28 күн бұрын
Hasan is not qualified for any debate at all, and the guy in the middle is not doing sxxt.
@MonkeNeuronActivated
@MonkeNeuronActivated 14 күн бұрын
Hasan's only debate tactic is talking over people Also the moderator not moderating really made this horrible to listen to 💀
@christianobregon5215
@christianobregon5215 3 жыл бұрын
You can see the result of our poor education system when people think Charlie Kirk won this "debate". Charlie excels at appealing to poorly educated neo conservatives by using " gotcha moments", logical fallacies, and patriotism.
@jmulaaclips6859
@jmulaaclips6859 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right but hasan could have done much better in my opinion
@fridgeninjas
@fridgeninjas 3 жыл бұрын
This debate would have been mad lit if Hasan got to finish more of his thoughts. Charlie won, but not with substance, just sheer force lol
@antennaboy3383
@antennaboy3383 3 жыл бұрын
@@fridgeninjas How is "countries only failed cause of socialism" Charlie winning? Especially when America is proud to intervene in other countries buisness, systems, and governments?
@fridgeninjas
@fridgeninjas 3 жыл бұрын
@@antennaboy3383 I agree with you, I thought most of what Charlie said was absolute garbage. I think he "won" in the sense that he was able to control the narrative for a longer period of time. He straight up just talked over Hasan for most of this, and many times steered the discussion away from certain topics when he knew Hasan was setting up to obliterate him. Charlie's points sucked, but he was the more skilled debater.
@antennaboy3383
@antennaboy3383 3 жыл бұрын
@@fridgeninjas I just notice how Charlie listed facts on completely unrelated topics at times, and when Hasan demonstrated knowledge on a certain subject, Charlie wanted to move away from that talking point, like the Lasic Eye Surgery thing, the Socialism being evil and contries failing "OnLy DuE tO sOcAliSm" and etc. Why doesn't Hasan practice what he preeches? Cause it doesn't work if ONLY HASAN gives away whatever % of his money. When he said "do you think that's how it works?", it is actually a genuine question. It's much easier to practice capitalism and free market ideas...When you have WAY more money and live in a country that enables you to do so.
@blotterdowney8075
@blotterdowney8075 3 жыл бұрын
kirk dude just spits out numbers with no context and smugly thinks he wins every argument lmao
@Zero_cool79
@Zero_cool79 3 жыл бұрын
Damn him for knowing statistics🤣
@MrTeslaX
@MrTeslaX 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it nauseating but he presents the facts
@rickeygregory9089
@rickeygregory9089 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zero_cool79 statistics without context is not the knowledge of statistics. That's why actual studies factor in related numbers. If you read a study on education it factors in families, schools, and students. Statistics are multifaceted and Kirk's fans don't understand that. That's why his main strategy is deflection and trying to reach another talking point ASAP.
@Zero_cool79
@Zero_cool79 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickeygregory9089 ok so a few things. 1. You can look up everything he says. Its rather easy to do since we all have computers in the palm of our hands and the fact that he is well versed in the statistics he is using means he studied both sides of thw issue ti actually make an argument. 2. Democrats love usingf the phrase "talking points." I remember whne the truth was simply called truth. 3. Only some statistcs are multifacited, such as the wage gap myth. Some statistics are just bare bomes and black and white. 4. I watched this entire debate. I didnt here much "deflection" from kirk. However, i did here Hassan use transition phrases such as "what about," and "how come," which usually signals a new line of thought. With Hassan its fine but if Kirk does it its deflection? This is what makes democrats so easy to debate and this is why they are so often defeted if they dont apeal to the emotions of the masses. They seem to want to have different rules for themselves and when they cannot have those rules applied they scream foul (or in other words; deflection).
@anthonytrapanese8696
@anthonytrapanese8696 3 жыл бұрын
Who needs facts puhhhh
@p_d_r_sb
@p_d_r_sb 15 күн бұрын
these two obviously are not on the same level. Hasan obviously lacks the intellectual ability to reason with Charlie and constantly throws fallacies into this debate in order to change the it's direction
@2SloppyJoe
@2SloppyJoe 5 ай бұрын
Ah, the debate where Hasan looked like he was about to have a nervous breakdown
@roachdoggjr6624
@roachdoggjr6624 2 ай бұрын
We should come up for a term for like this Schrödinger’s communist bs. They joke about the USSR being justified in killing the kulaks yet defend it. They claim to be socialists yet use decentralized (Switzerland) and centralized (China) market economies to somehow push socialism? Are you a liberal or a communist. Do you want to collectivize capital or not?
@Xpzilla
@Xpzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Politics aside...damn Hassan lookin fresh as HELL and Charlie's wearing clothes I guess
@amandaellenburg4674
@amandaellenburg4674 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAH Charlie really said shoe carnival chic🥶🥴
@bendover8477
@bendover8477 3 жыл бұрын
Hassan always looks good, and Charlie always looks like a middle aged dad (coming from a conservative btw)
@bye92
@bye92 3 жыл бұрын
Hasan looking like a gay boy who wished he was in the army with this boots. Lookin gay af
@syrgreen6828
@syrgreen6828 3 жыл бұрын
@@bye92 what’s wrong with being gay? And Hasan’s style is infinitely better than Charlie’s.
@MyName-cw4yr
@MyName-cw4yr 3 жыл бұрын
Hasan wearing clothes his uncle bought him....
@astralflick
@astralflick 3 жыл бұрын
The dude on the left is conservative, and they call liberals triggered and snowflakes, but he seems to be the one with a red face, screaming into his mic, and his posture is uptight and uncomfortable. 😂😂 👌
@gory2905
@gory2905 3 жыл бұрын
No matter his posture, he still put more facts and relevance to the conversation than Hasan.
@David-gr1do
@David-gr1do 3 жыл бұрын
@@gory2905 If your idea of “relevance” is discussing the USSR and democrats, then sure.
@gory2905
@gory2905 3 жыл бұрын
@@David-gr1do what about him using other proven facts such as: 100 million people dead under socialism in last 100 years; Socialized medicine ruining the veteran’s system; Cuba life expectancy is 50 years; FDA disallowing entrepreneurs to compete against big Pharma; Regulations pricing out middle class consumers as corporations use it as a tool to go after small business owners. Oooo, and if that isn’t enough, here’s some specifics: Dodd-frank disallows community banks from competing against high level, national and or international ones, giving an 80% decrease in community banks; The Venezuelan government made the average Venezuelan lose 17 pounds, put it on the brink of civil war, gave a 40,000% inflation, took away any functioning economy and set a 42% unemployment in all of its exploitation from the lies of Karl Marx; most murderous, hopeless, and poor cities are run by democrats such as Philadelphia, Chicago, Oakland, Portland, Seattle and Milwaukee; Chicago has has the highest property taxes, institutional income tax, and debt. Also, if that wasn’t enough, here’s some stuff stated about how free market Capitalism is far better: $20,000 to $500 cost of LASIK eye surgery; Since it’s not covered by insurance, consumer can go straight to doctor so they know how much it costs, so prices went down, quality went up, and accessibility goes outward, that’s what happens with a market; anything costs less with competition; Free market capitalism is most successful ever, and the western civilization has been one of the greatest experiments ever; Life expectancy has doubled in the last 100 years in America. Plus, something no democrat wants to hear, COUNTRIES!!! Nothing like some proof, real, easy to find evidence starting with our beloved Venezuela, then to Zimbabwe, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, former Algeria, former Belarus, East Germany, Soviet Union, and Mao’s China.
@comet7609
@comet7609 3 жыл бұрын
@@David-gr1do lol u didnt respond,exposed
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
Liberals for the most part are referred to as snowflakes because they use emotions over logic... Meaning they let their feelings get the best of them instead of what's actually going on
@jeniko2841
@jeniko2841 4 ай бұрын
Shocked that you haven't disabled comments. Now that would be true socialism.
@fortnitedialectics2050
@fortnitedialectics2050 3 жыл бұрын
When he started Venezuela-ing he should've brought up the fact that Venezuela literally got stripped of their oil industry (their main source of economy) by ultra-capitalist countries
@ravanadevadas3770
@ravanadevadas3770 3 жыл бұрын
what they no, they grew their public sector so big the oil sector could not cop the cost and hence they started printing money.
@fortnitedialectics2050
@fortnitedialectics2050 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ravanadevadas3770 what you have just said is nothing, there were nations taking their oil, that's simply a fact, I mean send me a link that disproves that and i'll check it out
@chriswebb76
@chriswebb76 3 жыл бұрын
@@fortnitedialectics2050 um what r u on about Venezuela currently has the largest oil reserves in the world they haven't been taken. Their issue is poor management of their resources
@fortnitedialectics2050
@fortnitedialectics2050 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswebb76 source?
@chriswebb76
@chriswebb76 3 жыл бұрын
@@fortnitedialectics2050 legit go search it on google its widely known they have bigger reserves than Saudi Arabia
@kevinflores9517
@kevinflores9517 3 жыл бұрын
Everything hasan was cautioning and trying to prevent has all culminated and come true at once during this pandemic.
@lotofdamage774
@lotofdamage774 3 жыл бұрын
too real man he’s always right dude
@Mikerivers12345
@Mikerivers12345 8 күн бұрын
Hasan is about to cry😂😂😂
@JappyChan
@JappyChan 7 күн бұрын
You mean Charlie? Re watch the first 10 mins 😂
@robertswofford1161
@robertswofford1161 Ай бұрын
Hasan the one who said "babies are colonizers" is supposed to be the Young Turks shining example to debate Charlie Kirk? Yea ok.
@luftim
@luftim Ай бұрын
He is the dumbest person I have ever seen on KZfaq.
@finnmagnus
@finnmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
charlies got the weirdest fit I've ever seen
@madisonfine4833
@madisonfine4833 3 жыл бұрын
really said his 7th grade dance
@Aris-tc9qy
@Aris-tc9qy 3 жыл бұрын
thats the conservative fit bro, no matter whats above the feet, you gotta have those ugly ass skechers
@lil_alex9130
@lil_alex9130 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aris-tc9qy 😂😂😂😂
@dhard
@dhard 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aris-tc9qy those are yeezys bro
@mango8999
@mango8999 3 жыл бұрын
@@dhard yeah but he wears them horribly lmao
@laupheimer2728
@laupheimer2728 3 жыл бұрын
Still crazy to me how Kirk says that Socialisms responsible for 100 million deaths but every issue with Capitalism is "Corporatism" or some pseudo capitalism
@ohdontmindme4241
@ohdontmindme4241 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Laup yeah kind of odd. Both sides can’t admit the flaws their own side has. Like most things a middle ground is most likely best
@uncleaa8955
@uncleaa8955 Ай бұрын
How annoying Hassan is. He never shuts up. I think he loves to hear himself talk. Charlie was much more poised. Hassan was flustered and flat out rude and obnoxious.
@SphynkTorr
@SphynkTorr Ай бұрын
Total waste of time. This is not a debate. It's not even a conversation. It's a shouting match. The Young Turkey is from the school of whoever talks the most wins. Why is Charlie wasting his, our time in this venue?!?
@danielholdridge5581
@danielholdridge5581 3 жыл бұрын
how did they let charlie walk on the stage with that fit
@asabry4126
@asabry4126 5 жыл бұрын
"Western civilization was created by free market capitalism" Charlie is brain dead. Western civilization existed long before the concept of capitalism and guys like Adam Smith
@carlosjaramillo9702
@carlosjaramillo9702 5 жыл бұрын
A Sabry It was a retarded statement. Something along the lines of it helping advance western civilization would be more accurate and even then it has been a failure to western civilization in some aspects such as healthcare and warfare.
@mtimothy86
@mtimothy86 5 жыл бұрын
RIght? Western Civilization dominated because of the industrial revolution but almost collapsed because of unregulated capitalism. Without socialism / regulations, America would have never left the great depression.
@Sheiiko
@Sheiiko 3 жыл бұрын
The consept of free markets is the inherit nature of humans. When tribes traded with eachother many thousands of years ago there was no government deciding the price and taking a cut
@CrimeEnjoyer
@CrimeEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sheiiko Correct that free markets are old - capitalism is not. Western civilization existed for millennia before capitalism which isn't interchangeable with free markets - guess what, socialist markets also exist.
@FuzzyBunnyEars
@FuzzyBunnyEars 19 күн бұрын
Okay but why isn’t the moderator stepping in? Can’t believe how many times Hassan interrupted Charlie.
@byronrhodes1659
@byronrhodes1659 4 ай бұрын
I don’t blame Kirk for getting pissed. The Young Turks job is to demean, poke fun at, talk over and belittle the other side. There arguments are terrible and unconvincing. Hassan enjoys the fact that Kirk blew up. He pokes and pokes then says “hey man chill out, we don’t need to get crazy” Give me a break!
@butchdeloria2995
@butchdeloria2995 4 ай бұрын
ofc he is saying chill out. Kirk would say the same thing if Hasan freaked out
@AppleOfThineEye
@AppleOfThineEye 3 ай бұрын
@@butchdeloria2995 Pure speculation.
@butchdeloria2995
@butchdeloria2995 3 ай бұрын
@@AppleOfThineEye if someone is acting unhinged its natural to say chill out. also but of course someone who wants to fuck a pony wouldn't know what's natural
@localistmagic641
@localistmagic641 3 жыл бұрын
For those of you wondering why so many are watching these debates now, it is because millions of people are taking an interest in politics for the first time. A silver lining of the Trump administration.
@OGnice1878
@OGnice1878 3 жыл бұрын
yeah record number of early ballots submitted and votes casted! hopefully we see this as the new normal. TBH i could careless about the main election, its like 2016 all over again the choice of the lesser of two evils. Local elections can make an impact and that what i tend to focus more on
@samsung32901
@samsung32901 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how Charlie constantly tries to shit on Hasan for connecting empathy/morality to his political position, but then Charlie goes and says "socialism is evil". Like cmon dude, at least TRY to be self-consistent within even like 10 minute time frames
@panrady
@panrady 3 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Tamang what about most of Europe
@VitalArms
@VitalArms 4 ай бұрын
Cenk’s boy Hassan got absolutely wrecked by Charlie
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx Ай бұрын
Wasn't even close
@IDJOT
@IDJOT Ай бұрын
hasan got cooked by Charlie
@frederikwilliamjakobsen7298
@frederikwilliamjakobsen7298 Ай бұрын
You didn’t watch the debate i see
@kayleeok
@kayleeok Ай бұрын
In what world😂 Charlie is an idiot
@jdubo1998
@jdubo1998 Ай бұрын
​@@kayleeokAnd Hasan has shoe size IQ. So what's your point? Charlie still cooked hias ass. 😂
@mastermeow1582
@mastermeow1582 Ай бұрын
Charlie did crush him.
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx Ай бұрын
​@@frederikwilliamjakobsen7298 Bro Charlie won pretty easily
@cspd1151
@cspd1151 5 жыл бұрын
He lost me at the “America is the greatest country”. That is not a fact, it is an opinion. There are a lot of metrics one can use to evaluate what makes a country great, and the US is struggling in a variety of them.
@Jonuh
@Jonuh 3 жыл бұрын
imagine thinking charlie won lmao
@Zero_cool79
@Zero_cool79 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie WRECKED him
@keyan1219
@keyan1219 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zero_cool79 says the man who claimed USA was economically mobile Are you a troll ?
@Zero_cool79
@Zero_cool79 3 жыл бұрын
@@keyan1219 why does the U.S have the most immigrants in the world as of 2019 (48.2 million). Why would i be a troll?
@keyan1219
@keyan1219 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zero_cool79 what does that have to do with anything ?
@Zero_cool79
@Zero_cool79 3 жыл бұрын
@@keyan1219 for the U.S not being economically mobile, 1.18 million people (Thats just the legal immigration), last year, left those other countries and immigrated to the U.S. Th U.S Ranked 27 out of 82. So something about the U.S keeps people coming here. America is so good even the haters won't leave.
@Andrew-pf5fj
@Andrew-pf5fj 14 күн бұрын
Hassan is wildly unprepared. He wants to discuss ideology but has zero evidence or data to back it. Completely emotional (not to mention whiny) arguments with no meat to them.
@jamesbirmingham2957
@jamesbirmingham2957 13 күн бұрын
It's a debate on politics, it lack evidences thats valid, and did Charlie actually give proof his numbers are right or did he just shout them like an asshole?
@ady007pl
@ady007pl 7 күн бұрын
looks like hes ego got hurt when kirk got some good arguments
@Swisscheese5772
@Swisscheese5772 Ай бұрын
Hasan got OWNED
@anishkuvelkar1876
@anishkuvelkar1876 Ай бұрын
stfu loser or ill own u
@unluckyattacks6371
@unluckyattacks6371 3 жыл бұрын
I love how conservatives constantly say let me finish. While repeatedly interrupting the person they are talking to and never let them talk long enough to explain their points
@moefriends1093
@moefriends1093 3 жыл бұрын
like joe biden?
@unluckyattacks6371
@unluckyattacks6371 3 жыл бұрын
@Aj Shields maybe if you did some research you wouldn't have said some dumb shit like that. "Last year Cuba became the first country in the world to eliminate mother to child transmission of HIV and syphilis as a public health problem. According to the World Health Organization
@gory2905
@gory2905 3 жыл бұрын
@@unluckyattacks6371 by having a Caesarean section? Is that what you mean?
@unluckyattacks6371
@unluckyattacks6371 3 жыл бұрын
@@gory2905 antiretroviral therapy. Dude you have the internet with pretty much all of human knowledge in your pocket USE IT. Stop being dumb go look it up for yourself. Do you not know how to do research?
@liammcqueeney8768
@liammcqueeney8768 3 жыл бұрын
they were both doing it lmao shut up
@Ffejro12256
@Ffejro12256 Жыл бұрын
That moderater did a fantastic job of stopping these two from talking over each other.
@Kyoudontknowme
@Kyoudontknowme Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@zafarb4219
@zafarb4219 Жыл бұрын
kappa
@ianmcgregor349
@ianmcgregor349 Жыл бұрын
The moderator made is so entertaining tho!
@agolg622
@agolg622 11 ай бұрын
That's not true I see hassan is interrupting a whole time and the moderate just laughs
@collinkane8673
@collinkane8673 6 ай бұрын
@@agolg622 clearly it was sarcastic
@RameoMTL
@RameoMTL 23 күн бұрын
Gotta be the worst moderator ever
@user-dn5iz3qp3z
@user-dn5iz3qp3z 22 күн бұрын
They had a 'moderator'???????
@Librahn
@Librahn 21 күн бұрын
That's an audience 😂😂
@mariahomfg
@mariahomfg 3 жыл бұрын
"Sit down you psycho" is the best part of this whole debate
@MrTeslaX
@MrTeslaX 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Cenk really went psycho!!
@chrisburkes2567
@chrisburkes2567 3 жыл бұрын
It really doesn’t even matter who “won” or “lost” the debate once Charlie started freaking out he forfeited the entire debate
@wrsantos
@wrsantos 3 жыл бұрын
Chris B. Hasan freaked out a lot more.
@chrisburkes2567
@chrisburkes2567 3 жыл бұрын
wrsantos did Hassan start yelling at people in the audience?
@wrsantos
@wrsantos 3 жыл бұрын
Chris B. Doesn’t prove anything. Hasan was more disrespectful during the debate that Charlie was. Hasan was the first to act “freaked out”.
@shadowkille8r99
@shadowkille8r99 3 жыл бұрын
Chris B. WHY do you think Charlie started doing that? Who was in the audience that started saying stuff prior to Charlie shouting?
@justinrosenberg5819
@justinrosenberg5819 3 жыл бұрын
@@wrsantos when did Hasan try to fight an audience member lmao
@TomJones-op9nj
@TomJones-op9nj 4 ай бұрын
Hasan’s entire approach is flawed ….also he is smug and condescending
@butchdeloria2995
@butchdeloria2995 4 ай бұрын
Kirk was constantly smug and being condescending, they literally both were. if you cant see that you literally are up your own ass
@Rileybenitezz
@Rileybenitezz Ай бұрын
this aged so well….. hassan lookin like a clown rn in 2024
@vro1313
@vro1313 Ай бұрын
did something specific happen?
@minifolko
@minifolko Ай бұрын
@@vro1313 mabye joe biden?
@ChifDelta
@ChifDelta 20 күн бұрын
He was always a clown
@owenschauss7000
@owenschauss7000 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie's arguments were as weak as his drip
@UgherzCookies
@UgherzCookies 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know what he was doin with his yeezys....at least I think those are yeezys
@kenny9023
@kenny9023 2 жыл бұрын
@@UgherzCookies those a yeezys????? they look like sketchers
@lartisteautravail
@lartisteautravail 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why every other comment is a reference to "drip"
@cellamarino
@cellamarino 2 жыл бұрын
@@lartisteautravail because charlie's drip is as debilitating as his arguments
@lartisteautravail
@lartisteautravail 2 жыл бұрын
@@cellamarino I have no idea what that means though
@zeno4538
@zeno4538 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie says something, hasan refutes it and makes a good point, charlie changes topic and spouts numbers, people cheer, hasan breaks its down, Charlie doesnt address hasans point and instead spouts some numbers, rinse and repeat.
@AAA-cg5vw
@AAA-cg5vw 2 жыл бұрын
Basically the entire video lmao
@zeno4538
@zeno4538 2 жыл бұрын
@@L4ck0Ski11 no im saying hasan did well
@zeno4538
@zeno4538 2 жыл бұрын
@@L4ck0Ski11 yeah i guess kirk is just trying to look good and not actually find the truth of the matter
@SM-tu5fz
@SM-tu5fz 2 жыл бұрын
@@L4ck0Ski11 i didn’t see Hassan use one fact
@Poorleeno
@Poorleeno 2 жыл бұрын
@@L4ck0Ski11 they have smaller populations we could argue that their ideation couldn’t serve such a bloated country.
@ninaplaystime
@ninaplaystime 4 ай бұрын
Respect both but Hasan interrupting nonstop was so insufferable zz
@marcin8865
@marcin8865 3 ай бұрын
how can anyone respect Hasan honestly?
@wilburmoleyt2139
@wilburmoleyt2139 2 ай бұрын
@@marcin8865what’s wrong with respecting both, they both make good and bad points
@CodyMercer44
@CodyMercer44 Ай бұрын
Good for Charlie kirk. The moderator is such garbage.
@ryanmelontube
@ryanmelontube 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie saying competition makes healthcare cheaper💀💀
@Shinobi542
@Shinobi542 3 жыл бұрын
bIGGEST cap I've heard even on the logical spectrum
@moefriends1093
@moefriends1093 3 жыл бұрын
it does want me to explain?
@YourBudEgg
@YourBudEgg 3 жыл бұрын
@@moefriends1093 go for it, I'd love to hear this take.
@patrickbarrio101
@patrickbarrio101 3 жыл бұрын
@@YourBudEgg where's the take?
@moefriends1093
@moefriends1093 3 жыл бұрын
@@YourBudEgg even Joe Biden somewhat knows this when there are multiple companys they want to sell there stuff but if they have a companie that has it cheaper than they have to make it cheaper ap if they made it cheaper then the next company wants to sell but the cheap one is taking there customers so they create a new item (medicine) that's better but at same price this lifted 86% of people out of poverty in the last 300 years and since the industrial revolution it has been going faster this is called $Capitalism$
@jtaiv2798
@jtaiv2798 4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Kirk literally looks like a 6th grader with his running shoes.
@abelgonzales3695
@abelgonzales3695 4 жыл бұрын
Hasan literally debates like a third grader right dog? Right duuuude!
@popdop0074
@popdop0074 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your account name XD
@meljon777
@meljon777 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the running shoes do look a bit odd, I admit. I know many that have to wear running shoes do to injury or prolonged traveling. But in the greater scheme of things, looks don't matter. Facts matter.
@Therightisright
@Therightisright 3 жыл бұрын
Non SJW Progressive 6th graders with running shoes have a solid understanding of our Countries history, and how it’s current government and economics work (Unlike the Young Turks)? Interesting.
@packetmuncher2404
@packetmuncher2404 3 жыл бұрын
Abel Gonzales - You clearly overlooked the content of his arguments
@MidnightWolfSDJ
@MidnightWolfSDJ 5 ай бұрын
And what did we learn? Absolutely nothing… one side was let to speak as long as he wanted no interruptions. The other began an argument only to be interrupted 3 words into the argument. It is ridiculous man. If you want to spew hours long dialogue go do your own podcast. When you debate, you give your arguments and reasons why you support your claims. You might even ask the opposition a question. If that happens you let them speak and give their points and counter arguments. This debate was the opposite of productive. It was rather ridiculous. The only thing I disagree with Charlie is he did lose his cool a bit there toward the end at an audience member. But come on Hassan. Rather than spewing insults and talking over the guy, actually come up with good arguments that support your views. All I heard you say was conservativism and capitalism bad. Liberalism and Socialism good. Just remember, I solid sign you are losing a debate is when you throw out insults about the other person’s views/character. With that I say Charlie wins even with his outburst at the end. Charlie gave facts and Statistics as well as valid examples that supported his claim. All Hassan could say is capitalism gets in the way of socialism and socialism is how you improve a society. I wish I could have hear more what Charlie said but too bad he was interrupted by an obnoxious left winger who doesn’t want what is best for America. It is sad people like Hassan have these ridiculous views. That money has to come from somewhere. If not a private bill, it will come out of your wallet. Even for people who don’t even need healthcare. It’s like why should I be forced to give my hard earned money for something out of my control and has nothing to do with me? What should happen is a bigger emphasis on charity funding and crowd funding to help support those with chronic medical issues. Incentives for giving to medical money pools and stuff of that nature other than tax cuts/exemptions would be nice. Why don’t we try harder in pledge drives and make need known and have people be willing to pay for someone else’s medical rather than forcing people to pay for it? Medical care is a privilege not a right. Reason I say this is because let’s say every doctor/scientist decided they wanted to retire or end their practice. Now statistically speaking this is a major hypothetical. But you can’t force people to be doctors if they don’t want to be. Freedom goes out the door when you try to do that. But you incentivize the medical industry by making doctor wages high; therefore people are willing to put up with college debt and the stress that comes with healthcare to receive a solid wage. That wage has to come from somewhere. If not the patient then it is the tax payers. And now we are right back where I started.
@JayJay-ye7ic
@JayJay-ye7ic 4 ай бұрын
Pretty awesome that Cuba solved AIDS
@carywooster2538
@carywooster2538 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bort_1265
@bort_1265 3 жыл бұрын
Both did a great job promoting socialist ideas
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on that
@BushidoBoyd
@BushidoBoyd 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebri9161 Charlie’s arguments were so terrible that he ended up proving Hasan’s points about socialism being potentially good and us already benefiting from a mixed economy
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
@@BushidoBoyd Do you honestly believe that having more government ran/controlled programs is going to make us better off? This completely defeats the point of a thriving country
@stevebri9161
@stevebri9161 3 жыл бұрын
@@BushidoBoyd Charlie's arguments were not terrible because Hassan is basing everything off of emotion.... I'm not saying he doesn't have the right intentions
@BushidoBoyd
@BushidoBoyd 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebri9161 Do you honestly believe it’s as simple as no regulation = good and any regulation = bad? And if you think Hassan was the emotional one and Charlie wasn’t, then we both watched different videos
@marcelbieganski3789
@marcelbieganski3789 3 жыл бұрын
charlie kirk hasnt actually rebutted anything. He simply spews irrelevant stats at Hassan to dodge the substance of questioning. Kirk is a bad debater. He may sound convincing, but, coming from a competitive debater here, he is failing at the basic fundementals of argumentation.
@js0988
@js0988 3 жыл бұрын
VENEZUELAAAAAAAA!!!!! Check mate liberals, lalalalalalalalalalalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!! CUBA!!!!!!!! NORTH KOREA!!!!!!!! Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala.......
@theproject.7713
@theproject.7713 28 күн бұрын
This Hassan guy only makes a point by squawking at everything Charlie says. This is exactly what turned me into a conservative and I’ve never been more proud to be one - because of people like this guy.
@vacantandstainedd
@vacantandstainedd 3 жыл бұрын
Talk loud + speak fast + whataboutisms + don't stutter + speak in absolutes = must have owned Hasan 🇺🇸
@Erihk_
@Erihk_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr what a joke
@Nicole-gt7nv
@Nicole-gt7nv 4 жыл бұрын
The way charlie kirk wears yeezy's makes them look like grandpa shoes
@izizxoxo
@izizxoxo 16 күн бұрын
The moderator being non existent 🫥😭
@parsaa.z7985
@parsaa.z7985 Ай бұрын
Hassan pisses me off
@racheld9177
@racheld9177 5 жыл бұрын
I really wish the moderator did a better job structuring this debate.
@kelvinmota123
@kelvinmota123 5 жыл бұрын
True
@xaviercortinaz8008
@xaviercortinaz8008 5 жыл бұрын
>politicon in charge of doing something right That'll be the day.
@ashleymarija2765
@ashleymarija2765 4 жыл бұрын
What moderator? Hahaha
@SH1TH0T
@SH1TH0T 3 жыл бұрын
Or any moderating at all..
@amandaellenburg4674
@amandaellenburg4674 3 жыл бұрын
The chunky dad sneakers, the disconnect from reality, AND with a side of anger issues...the true physical embodiment of conservative men in America ✨
@jerryryans2235
@jerryryans2235 3 жыл бұрын
the AUDACITY charlie has pulling up in a middle school dance outfit😔
@austin5944
@austin5944 3 жыл бұрын
He's wearing yeezys dear god
@amandaellenburg4674
@amandaellenburg4674 3 жыл бұрын
@@austin5944 that’s even worse, you’re telling me he paid more than 20 bucks for those ugly things🥴
@austin5944
@austin5944 3 жыл бұрын
@@amandaellenburg4674 I think they look cool with the right fit, not a suit though
@mattexplicit
@mattexplicit 3 жыл бұрын
Almost like saying dawg every 2 minutes in a debate lol
@Woolf729
@Woolf729 2 ай бұрын
Watching Hasan debate is going to be how I get tortured in hell
@Mike_N_ike24
@Mike_N_ike24 2 ай бұрын
“Dawg”
@Mike_N_ike24
@Mike_N_ike24 2 ай бұрын
“Dawg” “that’s so stupid”
@Woolf729
@Woolf729 2 ай бұрын
@@Mike_N_ike24 dawg, that’s craaazzzy!!
@FishAnvil
@FishAnvil Ай бұрын
all of the free uncle media training in the world can't cure a frat boy from talking like he just slipped something in a girl's drink and bragged about how much game he has the next morning 😅
@vipergameplay7613
@vipergameplay7613 5 ай бұрын
Hasan literally only can argue by interrupting people lmao
@jace2643
@jace2643 5 ай бұрын
they both interrupted each other LMFAOO
@vipergameplay7613
@vipergameplay7613 5 ай бұрын
@@jace2643 hasan does this in EVERY debate though
@blndrhed
@blndrhed 3 жыл бұрын
Cuba's life expectancy is 79.2 years---USA 78.7 years. Cuba's infant mortality 4.1 out of 1,000---USA 5.6 out of 1,000. Cuba is known for having one of the best healthcare systems in the world.
@rinzler1801
@rinzler1801 3 жыл бұрын
all while the USA imposes strict embargoes on them
@omarthescriblomale8279
@omarthescriblomale8279 3 жыл бұрын
Wow a one year difference my god. Meanwhile most of their citizens live can barely affor toilet paper
@blndrhed
@blndrhed 3 жыл бұрын
@@omarthescriblomale8279 I think you have an inaccurate impression of Cuba. They don't have a lot of luxury items because of the embargo, but the country is thriving with a booming tourist industry. Where the hell do you get your information about Cuba? Tony Montana?
@omarthescriblomale8279
@omarthescriblomale8279 3 жыл бұрын
@@blndrhed um cuba is not a tourist thrill. Cuba is a place where CELEBRITIES mostly visit. Cuba also has nice beaches, but what does that have to do with the fact that they are a socialist hellhole to live in?
@cherylno583
@cherylno583 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarthescriblomale8279 if you'd watched the video you would understand that the OP is disproving Charlie's anti-socialist characterization of Cuba. considering yes, Cuba before socialism was, and still is, poorer than the US. but currently, compare it to the rest of Latin America and its the only country without widespread malnutrition. so yes, socialism in cuba has thrived.
@GlumoTV458
@GlumoTV458 5 жыл бұрын
8:41 Hasan won the debate. No need to watch further, Charlie again confuses basic social safety nets with communist dictatorships and goes on a "muh feels" tirade
@npe9483
@npe9483 5 жыл бұрын
Hasan does some ludicrous things too tbf. Frankly I think they both lost, and we were the biggest losers for wasting time watching this shouting fest.
@MathewBroadway
@MathewBroadway 3 жыл бұрын
For real, I'm still waiting on Charlie to answer who's fault it is.
@Robert-vj9gx
@Robert-vj9gx 23 күн бұрын
Charlie owned his ass 😂😂
@jequinlan3
@jequinlan3 12 күн бұрын
Hassin is terrible at debate had to turn off
@user-wj9qj6yta15
@user-wj9qj6yta15 11 күн бұрын
Always
@JappyChan
@JappyChan 11 күн бұрын
First ten mins of this video Charlie kirk got roasted. He had to change the subject to health care. He even yelled at hassan lol Charlie is a joke.
@user-ij4zn9ot2e
@user-ij4zn9ot2e 10 күн бұрын
@@JappyChanHassan is a proven liar and also spews nonsense literal verbal garbage with no meaning. Hes literally a sponge feeding off the likes of people like you, willingly ignorant of what’s happening and facts. You have an absolute inability to argue most points you actually argue about because they are actually PROVEN wrong and it’s cringe.
@sulk7080
@sulk7080 3 күн бұрын
@@user-ij4zn9ot2e Chuck Kirk is a proven liar and also spews nonsense literal verbal garbage with no meaning. Hes literally a sponge feeding off the likes of people like you, willingly ignorant of what's happening and facts. You have an absolute inability to argue most points you actually argue about because they are actually PROVEN wrong and it's cringe. 🥱
@juliettest.laclaire8931
@juliettest.laclaire8931 3 жыл бұрын
Yo is it just me or does Charlie’s face keep getting tinnier over the debate
@yolo-vl4wz
@yolo-vl4wz 3 жыл бұрын
just like his brain ☺
@littlebosaMusic
@littlebosaMusic 3 жыл бұрын
The angrier he gets the smaller his face gets
@gwithheadphones
@gwithheadphones 3 жыл бұрын
why is Charlie dressed like a 15-year-old in debate club
@user-pampam70634
@user-pampam70634 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanie002 Hahaha, love it!
@travisleonard513
@travisleonard513 10 күн бұрын
I've always found the smartest person is one giving all the facts and the dumbest insecure person is always going "Are we really gonna talk about this?" "C'mon really this?" "This is ridiculous". People who know they are losing always get emotionally disraught.
@user-yh1nm1vy3i
@user-yh1nm1vy3i 9 күн бұрын
The “smartest” one in this situation is in the wrong tho
@Alfaromero-wh8yk
@Alfaromero-wh8yk 7 күн бұрын
​@@user-yh1nm1vy3i How and why? Are the facts he's numbering false?
@user-yh1nm1vy3i
@user-yh1nm1vy3i 7 күн бұрын
@@Alfaromero-wh8yk He’s missing the point and his argument doesn’t really make sense. The problem isn’t that the facts are wrong but that he is twisting them to make everything else seem wrong.
@goger282
@goger282 18 сағат бұрын
@@user-yh1nm1vy3i your inability to comprehend complex sentences, doesnt mean Charlies argument dont make sense
@imnotafool_
@imnotafool_ 4 ай бұрын
the more i watch this .. 1. LOL WTF IS THAT MODERATOR DOING And 2. HASAN OMG SHUT TF UP FOR ONE SEC
@optimichuu1446
@optimichuu1446 4 ай бұрын
they both interrupt each other( i dont agree with either of them)
@imnotafool_
@imnotafool_ 4 ай бұрын
@@optimichuu1446 i meaan Yes respectfully at the start which is a normal occurance here and there, then after Hasan literally kept doing it and slowly charlie started to realise that the moderator was not gonna step in. can tell by his sarcastic comment "oh.. we do have a moderator".. it's weird how people watch the same interview and can't see social cues
@AgentOfEarth
@AgentOfEarth 3 жыл бұрын
"Donald Trump is making the world a safer place" did not age well LMAO
@jimbozimbo5997
@jimbozimbo5997 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody asked for covid.
@theprofessionalcamper1511
@theprofessionalcamper1511 3 жыл бұрын
Jimbo Zimbo And you don’t think he could have handled it better?
@jimbozimbo5997
@jimbozimbo5997 3 жыл бұрын
The professional Camper no
@jimbozimbo5997
@jimbozimbo5997 3 жыл бұрын
The professional Camper you have a chance of getting it no matter how much you follow the rules that are set you still can get it (slim chance) but it’s still possibly.
@drew3864
@drew3864 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poppityy lmao saying democrat run cities are handling it poorly implies that there are republican run cities out there who are handling better. Fact is all cities are democrat run. That’s just cities
@yobozo720
@yobozo720 3 жыл бұрын
Hasan was basically like: "Let me get this dub real quick"
@rager4able
@rager4able 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just over here like: "Sure thing dog"
@treeoflife-cn7kd
@treeoflife-cn7kd 18 күн бұрын
This debate didn’t have a moderator
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