This and That: 2019 Cup of China (Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Sui and Han)

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2019 Cup of China featured highlight performances by Sui and Han, Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Satoko Miyahara, Madison Chock and Evan Bates, Boyang Jin, Han Yan, Keegan Messing, Matteo Rizzo and more! We break down all of the action on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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@claudsk33 4 жыл бұрын

TIMESTAMPS: 01:01 - Jonathan’s reality TV stints! (House Hunters & Worst Cooks) + Twitter + skating in Harlem + lots of fluff about Jonathan

@Bitter_Pill_ 4 жыл бұрын

Claudia for PRESIDENT!

@tcbgood 4 жыл бұрын

@angieng8633 4 жыл бұрын

Tq very much

@swimbod21 4 жыл бұрын

I love you!

@olena89 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

@SavannahRidout 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man I was gonna say this last week but the warm chemistry between Madison Chock and Marie-France is fantastic. I feel like they call each other while they’re driving places, as all the great kindred spirits do.

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 4 жыл бұрын

Satoko’s free is everything❤️

@Melissa-yr7fm 4 жыл бұрын

PwT her jumps look much better too!

@leratomonethi4265 4 жыл бұрын

IT. IS. LIFE...Sheer brilliance!!!

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

The best artistic skater present day. If only she can get some quad muscles, perhaps she can get some quads.

@RakuRadio 4 жыл бұрын

And in her 7th senior season

@janetjohn3539 4 жыл бұрын

I adored Yan Han! What gorgeous skating. He is totally my new crush.

@liebeanna 4 жыл бұрын

@Nicole Churulich oh that facial hair.. I feel like it hides his handsome face. And I really hope to see him more often in international competitions!

@r12joy96 4 жыл бұрын

@@liebeanna So creepy. Focus on the skate and stop perving.

@suzannefraser4966 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful that ISU is posting all the programs on You Tube to watch at our convenience

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you just need a VPN in the US

@jasonkanzler1073 4 жыл бұрын

You both get +5's for humor and 10's for analysis - love ya!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Jason Kanzler 😘😘😘

@claudsk33 4 жыл бұрын

working on timestamps now! (sorry they didn't work last week 🙁 - seems like KZfaq doesn't like me editing 'Timstamps in Progress')

@grisgris6908 4 жыл бұрын

Chock and Bates!!! Killing it in the free dance. Otherwise, this event was all over the place.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Loved their FD!

@justynazokiewska8223 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a cup of disaster after all

@BillyWhaler 4 жыл бұрын

Magic Chock.

@Sbsb3798 4 жыл бұрын

I’m going through a tough breakup, but you guys cured a lonely Saturday night to chat skating with some friends!! Thank you.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear that! I hope it gets better for you!

@justynazokiewska8223 4 жыл бұрын

Hugs 🤗

@shiringadjieva1739 4 жыл бұрын

Stay strong... this too shall pass

@michelleporcelli8783 4 жыл бұрын

The ladies field was pretty good. The ice dance results were interesting. None of the pair events have had any depth so far except Skate Canada. Lubov and Charlie didn't skate so well here but the field was much easier to medal in. The men were all over the place. Chock and Bates look great. Kayne and O'Shea continue to regress in every aspect and they never score well internationally, for good reason. Sui and Han look great and Han continues to throw her higher and farther than a lot of the guys who are much taller than him. It's like they're from another planet.

@sincantations 4 жыл бұрын

i was at the bar and cabbed home in 10 min to watch this..........

@naomiberry7901 4 жыл бұрын

I was never a big H/D fan or a C/B fan. This year has cemented for me that I am definitely NOT a H/D fan and I've become a believer in C/B. Their programs this year are spot on!

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

Naomi Berry this is such a great look and choreography for C/B. It’s so nice to see a new competition with dance. Egyptian can seem so forced choreography and fake (Ummm, Yagitova) but their moves and expression seem so authentic and creative. And what a dress on Madison! 💕🤗🤗

@BrentWolgamott 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad Dave's face is back! But I think we lost Jonathan's sound quality in lieu of it. I think he had the wrong mic selected. :-(

@L.Spencer 4 жыл бұрын

And the volumes are different, so it's hard to listen to

@selenity08 4 жыл бұрын

You guys are so quick! I’m staying up for this....

@chipperterri 4 жыл бұрын

Coffee,bagels, The Skating Lesson perfect Sunday morning..

@goldburnm 4 жыл бұрын

Yay! Perfect timing. Thanks TSL.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

goldburnm enjoy!

@quickfruits6963 4 жыл бұрын

Yesss Yan Han was great it made me even a bit emotional.

@saramisthal6658 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! You guys are so quick with these videos. Thanks and I loved the episode of House Hunters. I moved from NYC to Philadelphia! You get way more for your money but prices are still insane. Congratulations!!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Sara Misthal 🎉🎉🎉

@allisongoldstein6871 4 жыл бұрын

I think Victoria is secretly the mastermind of the team and she just lets Katsalapov do all the talking, while she sits there, looks pretty and plots their world domination.

@anacampos5112 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the muted makeup and dress in Satoko FS!!!! Reminiscent of Joshua Farris Schindler´s List. By the way Satoko presentation is above everyone else in that event ( the short unitard is what i expected Rika wear!

@tc5044 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't sleep, so perfect timing for me tonight!

@TheGymnast71 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! I was waiting!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

@nantaeriana8569 4 жыл бұрын

Thank u so much for sharing love u two so much

@mjamitche5245 4 жыл бұрын

OMG I can't wait for Vanessa and Morgan to come back. They are one of the main reasons I started watching figure skating outside of the Olympic year. I am totally buying what they're selling, as a package. I'm eating it up and I can't get enough of it. Thanks for defending them, Jonathan. They have been missed by many fans this season.

@mjamitche5245 4 жыл бұрын

So, I just have to add that no one wears a body suit better than Vanessa James. I feel like she has popularized the look because I don't remember seeing many body suits when Vanessa started wearing them and now it seems every 3rd person in all skating disciplines is wearing one, most of whom should not.

@anneludlow4891 4 жыл бұрын

I discovered TSL, initially coming for the interviews (Rudy Galindo! Kurt Browning! Tracy Wilson! Yay!) and have kept returning for the dishing, multiple analyses (costumes, music, choreo) of all the competitions, & OF COURSE the Barbies!!!! You both make me smile & laugh out loud. Many, many thanks!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Anne Ludlow 😘😘😘

@brettmayer247 4 жыл бұрын

You guys didn't mention that Tuktamysheva actually changed her LP back to last year's. I thought her interpretation this time was noticeably better.

@carlborrowman3008 4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Also, she is committed to competing the 4T (fs-gossips.com/elizaveta-tuktamysheva-plans-to-master-quad-toe-loop-this-season/)

@Becca3232 4 жыл бұрын

Yay, Dave's face is back 😜❤

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Becca3232 ❤️❤️❤️

@annfotlyan8655 4 жыл бұрын

you guys are fast! love it

@corgeousgeorge 4 жыл бұрын

OMG you two discussing Streaming Vs DVR makes me laugh. Mess! Love it!

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

Brian Brian DVRs are the best. Fast forward commercials and much easier to get to the moments you want to see. Just got NBC gold and without commentary and horrible scrolling, I’m back to watching skating and my other shows thru DVR. Jonathon and Dorothy need to get it! 🤗🙌

@carloscordero6695 4 жыл бұрын

Some Instagram user said today that satoko's skating was robotic and that Liza deserved the 72 PCS instead of her...

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

To each their own...

@OAMARQUINA 4 жыл бұрын

Liza is the same boring thing over and over. PCS are more than the weird moves she does with hers hands

@danicaz1163 4 жыл бұрын

Haha, I read that, he was so mad! He was all over the comment section spreading hate.

@yenglor691 4 жыл бұрын

Satoko’s PCs was given like Carolina 🙄. Liza doesn’t have good choreography but it is absurd for her to lose given she landed two clean triple axels and the rest of her jumps were not bad compared to someone who has so many underrotations 😔.

@hgclarke25 4 жыл бұрын

A 'robotic' satoko is still more artistic than Elizaveta....cmon don't even compare them ppl....no ma'am🙉

@justynazokiewska8223 4 жыл бұрын

About S/H feel that it would be perfect to revisit Blues for the Klook as their SP + stay with Rain in your black eyes. Both pieces are an absolute perfection. And I feel like we didn’t get enough of the Blues.

@Essylte 4 жыл бұрын

I loved their Blues for Klook SP! Totally agree that that SP and their current Rain In your Black Eyes FP would be great.

@BigBlueSky123 4 жыл бұрын

1:25:38 I loved Jonathan’s reaction 😎👏🏻 You and me both, Jonathan, you and me both 👊🏻

@cdw3497 4 жыл бұрын

Another great recap! Dave, I totally thought the same thing about Nikita's smile. Especially in the free dance, it seemed very...out of place? It really stuck out. And I think the idea of Hawayek & Baker going to Carol Lane is a great idea. It will help the team, and push Piper & Paul. And as great as it would be for Piper & Paul to get a medal in Canada, I really think (at this point) it should go to Chock & Bates. Their material, to me, is top 2 in the world for what we've seen. Thanks again for the episode!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Curtis Wagner you’re very welcome.

@AlwaysJuNe 4 жыл бұрын

I see lots of time Kostornaya's first name is pronounced same as Zagitova's. I think it is a spelling trick... in Russian Kistornaya's first name sounds like ALYONA, same way you say Savchenko... and last name of Khromyh. Seems like you are strugling with it. First vowel is stressed. Letters in the beginning and in the end is H... like sound in word HOTEL. starts with H and ends with H.

@efimkrivov 4 жыл бұрын

A:lën/\

@efimkrivov 4 жыл бұрын

Kastornayah

@fashionmwah 4 жыл бұрын

Satoko: I think that she has become more expressive. In the beginning of her career, I didn’t like her skating because I felt like she wasn’t expressive and that I couldn’t feel much from her skating. Now it’s different. Her PCS will definitely be by her side! Hehe!

@harveygirl95 4 жыл бұрын

fashionmwah She has some of the best skating skills out there too

@hbattagl 4 жыл бұрын

Am I right to think that Anna’s under rotation was picked up after the replay (It may not have, if it had not been shown)? And that was why they looked anxious at K&C?

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

hikaju no, I think the caller chose to review it. I do think Anna saw the UR on the replay like the rest of us.

@Jontor11 4 жыл бұрын

Dave - Shcherbakova got ! on all her FIVE lutzes. And don't forget Mariah Bell for the GPF. All she needs to do is beat Medvedeva and Miyahara at Rostelecom. I really felt for Tuktamysheva here. I wanted her in the GPF but she lost it by a finger aka -GOE on Lutz/Flip (/aka not enough UR calls on Miyahara). Tukt is a star though, she would have been a great addition to the GPF.

@sebrojs 4 жыл бұрын

Just when I was about to go to sleep... 😂

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Rojas sorry!

@TheSaintbx 4 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to see what Jonathan’s budget, must haves, and point of contention are in his HH episode!!! Major fan (of both the show and JB!)

@pmcbride2052 4 жыл бұрын

I actually love Amber. I miss that style of skating and she has top notch skating skills. I like how she feels the music and skates as her true self. I’ll take that over a jump competition any day!

@skatefan9495 4 жыл бұрын

Amber needs a makeover. Does she always wear the same dusty pink dress or does she have many in the same color? The color washes her out. Also, the over the boot tights have to go.

@zb6070 4 жыл бұрын

Does Alena, for long term, need a quad if she has a 3A in a short program (a slight boost), and 2 in the FS. With good spins, footwork, consistency, PCS, and 3As, she may be fine without quads. Especially if others with quads don't make it. Also, I think with You Young, I think she is probably fine. The olympics is years away and she is super young (and I don't feel the Eteri "you are best when you are young" technique). She has time to build consistency for 3A and maybe a quad by 2022.

@rop888 4 жыл бұрын

She doesn't need one and she might not injure herself before 2022 by trying. She's slower to add tech than the other two Eteri even mentioned. Her score is not that much lower than Sasha's 4 quad programs. And You Young will be fine as well. She doesn't need be perfect right now. Eunsoo isn't really any competition for her and Korea has two worlds spots anyway.

@leratomonethi4265 4 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Damn I hope she lands it, we need her to have it. Please God!

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

Alena has best artistry of the 3 Eteri girls and great height on her current jumps but even with her performance quality, the judges won’t give her the PCS score that she deserves until another year since this is her first senior year. Perhaps by Olympic year. But it will only get more competitive with the upcoming years with the new Eteri juniors coming up. The youngins are already doing quads, not just learning them as seniors and who knows when their growth spurts will come or injuries. Look what happened to Medvedeva and Zagitova. It seems 15 or 16 if the age to hit it in the Olympics.

@nataliaivanova1035 4 жыл бұрын

Evan Perilstein Why do you think they don’t go the safe route? I have been gathering statistics for many noticeable coach teams in Japan, Russia and USA, and Tutberidze’s group has less injures per number of students than many other teams. On one of the interviews, Eteri mentioned that they keep very close eye on their students to make sure they don’t try jumps when they are tired or lack concentration. So I don’t see any indication so far that the team doesn’t take safety very seriously.

@rop888 4 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 For Alena they will. I think she's actually the one they have the most hope for the future for. It might seem like Anna and Sasha are favs, but they aren't idiots and know what they have with Alena. And when she was doing the 4S in practice she made more mistakes, so it wasn't worth it.

@hikkirocks 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you about Satoko. Her new environment in North America must be helping her project even more (as opposed to the inner poised expressiveness she always had). Japanese fans are saying how smart of her to have some distance from her rising star teammate. Love the free so much! The short it looks a bit clinical rather than authentically her. Kudos for trying interesting pieces tho! Thank you Dave and Jonathan for such speedy work :) :)

@hikkirocks 4 жыл бұрын

R J I love the short, too don’t get me wrong! Satoko definitely catches every beat and has lots of sophisticated moves. I just don’t think she owns it like she does with her long.

@leratomonethi4265 4 жыл бұрын

@@hikkirocks She did mention in her interview that she is still getting to some level of comfortability with the short as it is out of her zone

@hikkirocks 4 жыл бұрын

Lerato Monethi cool, thanks for sharing :) It should get even better then!

@LaChicaMadrilena 4 жыл бұрын

Your recap was more entertaining than Cup of China! What a lacklustre event! And the arena was so huge, the front rows so high, why would anyone ever go there to watch it live?

@Olga___864 4 жыл бұрын

Coming back to your post about Goe, because i also was the one who was offended, until i blocked some people from that post. I think Anna doesn't have problems, i saw how Sasha trains her arms in her interview. May be this post is not a problem, the problem is some people and coaches who put minus, 0, or +1 Goe to 15 years old girl without explanations. I hope they dont do it to their own children or students nullifying their achievements and bringing to psychological problems. I finally decided to watch film Perfume. It is about person who never received care in his life and nobody teached him how to love other people and how to receive love from anybody, and care about his or other people lifes, he was teached only how to talk and how to work. So, his great talent brought him to madness. May be it is not the sport who kills sportsman, but actions of people who were teached only how to talk and how to work, but not how to love and respect other people's achievements

@debbied2715 4 жыл бұрын

still babysitting so this is perfect!!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Debbie Bums enjoy!

@joannm.1756 4 жыл бұрын

Kostornaia has the best technique because she went to Eteri after she already learned the basics. That's why her dbl and triple Axel is so beautiful. Eteri does not teach the Axel correctly. Really surprised Zagitova is staying in. She won't defend her world title & she will never get a quad, so I wonder what the thinking is.

@lostsailor2284 4 жыл бұрын

Guys you need to invest in some microphones if you want to grow your channel. The Audio was absolutely horrendous

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Lost Sailor we use microphones. There was some sort of issue this week. We will look into it.

@dariamoran9454 4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan is like twice as loud as Dave in this one for me, so I gotta turn the volume way up to hear Dave, but then Jonathan is screaming in my ear 🙉😂 these type of audio issues are pretty frequent on your videos, could you guys start taking a couple minutes before you begin to check that the audio quality is good and the volume balanced before you begin? I love you guys but the audio issues make it hard for me to listen to your videos sometimes

@norinechang2564 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Jonathan is maybe 5x as loud as Dave. Had to turn up the volume all the way and could still barely hear Dave.

@norinechang2564 4 жыл бұрын

I think the gain on J's side is turned way high. It's saturating the mike. Sound quality on D's side is better.

@5boysandamom 4 жыл бұрын

I love you both!! But the sound quality on Jonathan is poor. I don't know anything about this kind of thing but wished Jonathan sounded better. Dave, you sound perfect....

@axellemab 4 жыл бұрын

I am listening to it in my car and the difference of volume is so intense that I have to move the volume down every time Jonathan speaks, complicate to do it for 1h40 mn. But otherwise very interesting and entertaining as usual. Thank you Guys!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Norine Chang that is likely it. There was one point where Jonathan’s sound was such that I took my ear bud out to make sure it was only coming through my ear. Something was off but it wasn’t the same as when he is super loud. He has a tendency to play with his levels and mic position. And because he is an opera singer who gets excited, it is very different than if you or I were having a conversation.

@LiamForeman 4 жыл бұрын

"Though she was dressed up to the nines..... at sixes and sevens in PCS with you!!!" Don't cry for me, You Young!!!

@oFribble 4 жыл бұрын

I definitely think Marie-France and Patch have gelled so well with C/B because of good chemistry. MF seems to be enjoying choreographing for a team with similar strengths to her own. Dubreuil/Lauzon and Chock/Bates never had the best SS or speed but what they both use to their advantage is their height difference to create beautiful lift positions. MF & Maddie are also the stars of their team with the men being the perfect foils. And they are both off and on-ice couples with passion and chemistry in spades.

@oFribble 4 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Nothing to run home about, he especially was a bit flat on the blade. And let's not talk about the Twizzles😅 They still hold a soft spot in my heart for their great storytelling and authentic passion & chemistry combined.

@oFribble 4 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 good points.

@gdfhnt 4 жыл бұрын

Some of the judging calls in the ladies' event were questionable, to say the least. It's not a clear edge on Shcherbakova's lutzes but it is clear outside take-off on Satoko's? Are they out of their minds? Satoko clearly goes on inside edge right before take-off because she lets her arms go too early.

@surdina88 4 жыл бұрын

I am surprised you didn't mention Matteo's black turtleneck, Dave :)

@debbied2715 4 жыл бұрын

So funny because as I started watching the event with my mom yesterday I said the same thing about Shiseido

@larhumba4233 4 жыл бұрын

Is Jonathan's episode of House Hunter available to watch anywhere for us in UK please? And the Food Network show he was in? Would love to watch. Jonathan, I live in Hackney in London, and Gentrification is going on all over inner London's formerly poorer areas too. House/Flat/Rent prices are astronomical. Most have to house share.

@sparkl121 4 жыл бұрын

Well, Cong was also injured over the summer (when they had to cancel their Japanese ice show appearance), so that probably factored into taking their tech content slow to start the season.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Or he just made an error and can do a 3S quite easily. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. The other content didn't seem to bug him at all...

@sparkl121 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Oh, I didn't mean the error. I meant like slightly watering down the content, for instance the combo, leaving out the 2nd 2t and not doing the quad twist.

@dkeinow 4 жыл бұрын

That was interesting about Zagitova. I was hoping that the long pause in the middle of her free program was a "placeholder" for either a 3A or quad after seeing her in the Japan open.

@debbied2715 4 жыл бұрын

There is a moving company in Malden, MA called Death Wish Moving that specialize in pianos!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Debbie Bums ha!!

@feederbureauofinvestigatio7648 4 жыл бұрын

Johnathan you forgot Sofia Akatieva, she does two triple axels and two quad toes

@fashionmwah 4 жыл бұрын

Alena: I completely agree. I think of the three, she’s the one who’s got... the full package with technique that looks like it’ll have greater longevity. Trusova does have a strong body, but like you said, the risks are high for injury. They still have three more years, and that’s a long time, long enough for the body to start feeling the stress. Thus, I don’t like it when people start hyping these skaters when we don’t know what’ll happen yet. It’s also a mental game that won’t be helped by the pressure.

@harveygirl95 4 жыл бұрын

fashionmwah And then there’s Kamila...

@vncntd3962 4 жыл бұрын

Highlight of Cup of China for me was the return (and return to the podium) of Han Yan. Nothing else came close. Not sure why so many people are knocking the men's event here. I was intrigued by the line-up of skaters and the fact that a number of medal contenders (like Jin and RIzzo) had already flopped their first GP assignments and hence had no chance to make the final but had the ability to spoil someone else's chance of making the final; which is exactly what happened with both Tanaka and Messing getting knocked out of contention. (For the record: Messing finished 4th at Skate America, not third - as Dave says here - so he needed a 1st or 2nd to have a legit shot. With two 4th place finishes, Messing has zero chance of making the finale now.) So I already expected the event to be topsy-turvy. What I didn't expect - and it was a marvelous surprise - was that Han Yan would win the SP and finish second after the FS. He has no other GP assignment so he won't have a shot at making the final but I don't care: I'm just thrilled that he did so well on his return to competition. Gorgeous skater/skating.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

The event lacked star power, but I do love seeing Rizzo, Messing and Han Yan perform.

@r12joy96 4 жыл бұрын

Because the men's event was boring and lame.

@Clara-yn4jb 4 жыл бұрын

Has anyone else seen The Politician on Netflix? There's a character that looks *exactly* like Dave and thats all I could think when watching it.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Clara I have been told this by several people!

@liebeanna 4 жыл бұрын

I felt like finally the judges were judging properly in men and ladies except Anna’s ridiculously high PCS.

@liebeanna 4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasblacklight1280 Excuse me, but if you read my comment again, I never mentioned that I hate Anna. And personally, I think she is a gorgeous skater who pushes the figure skating world forward with difficult jumps so I like her alot. I just think she is not quiet at the level of getting 9's in her PCS yet, which is same level as Satoko. And if you disagree, that is fine with me. Everyone's opinion is different so I respect that but don't just over-interpretate my comment and write unthoughtful, offensive replies.

@liebeanna 4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasblacklight1280 So how about next time, you ask for clarification/explanation if you don't understand people's comments before leaving rude replies? And you still over-interpreted my comment. My comment is simply directed to the judges, not to the skater. You are complicating things so I am done talking to you.

@mikeokubo7061 4 жыл бұрын

An interview said that Kostornaia is the one that is a bit hesitant towards new jumps. And that the coaching staff is stopping her from doing quads.

@brankakovacevic6174 4 жыл бұрын

true.

@benbailey159bb 4 жыл бұрын

Good, she'll last

@sashafan2 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, guys, the Maya's is Khromykh. The ending is pronounced as h (honey), not ch, and the beginning is also pronounced as h, not ch=)

@birgitangermair4483 4 жыл бұрын

The discussion wether Liza is planning to do a Quad at nationals is quite strange … doing a quad at such an important Competition like russian nationals for the first time is almost like suicide; So, no, I do not think that this is gonna happen. It is better to do a clean 3-3 than a wobbly or ur Quad.I agree that missing the GPF might be even good for her … it might give her some extra- time for preparing for RN`s. But a "Quad- premiere" - no.

@gradkenyie5204 4 жыл бұрын

Dave, what’s your skin care regimen?

@jf2602 4 жыл бұрын

If you look at the time stamps, they spent 9mins talking about Sui Han.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

They are wonderful!

@Rachel-rs7jn 4 жыл бұрын

Is no one going to comment on the unfortunate shading on Nicole Della Monica's free program outfit?? 😬(And an honorable mention of the dropped crotch on poor Keiji's free program pants - I've noticed it at both of his competitions now.)

@dreybella5309 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I'm a bit skeptical on the current quad jumpers lasting till the next olympics. These girls will hit puberty and might have the old problems that arises with getting a more mature body and not to imagine the injuries. For now they are killing it though! 😮 If they do plan to go with Trusova and Scherbakova, I wonder if they would tone it down (quads) and get it back near the olympics ? Maybe make them learn 3As for the meantime? As for Alena I feel that shes purposely phasing herself in preparation for maybe a long term goal? She has the 3A but shes taking her time learning the quads.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

They will surely have new quad jumpers...not to fear

@dreybella5309 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson the feds are making it painfully obvious that the girls are dispensable 😥

@garysimmons1485 4 жыл бұрын

Overall: The men 🥴,,,,The ladies 🙄,,,The pairs 🤔,,,The dance 😏

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

Accurate emojis. ESP the men’s.

@goSANFRAN 4 жыл бұрын

accurate emojipression... the top five ice dancers in the event were an absolute treat to watch, so so much better then the ladies (cuz you already figured who the winner is) and the most of pairs... to me men’s was not that dire, the speed the performance and the relatively new n old faces make it a pretty exquisite game. 💕 ❤️ to Kegan/Han/Tanaka

@susanfield3680 4 жыл бұрын

T.J.? Who is that? ( mentioned when talking about pairs).

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

TJ Nyman

@fashionmwah 4 жыл бұрын

Elizaveta: I’m glad you guys are optimistic with her. I thought, by now, you’d say that she should retire. However, I don’t think she’ll get that quad by nationals. Also, her biggest problem has always been the choreography and PCS. They’re... not addressing that, so until they do, her skating remains the same. I’ve always felt like she has more potential in her performances, but it’s the same strategy in a new playing field with new competitors so tactics need to change.

@1chienandalou 4 жыл бұрын

fashionmwah she just posted her quad on IG :) Agree with you re her skating, choreo and PCS. She has power but feels stiff. She has presence and personality, but she is rarely with the music, or on deep edges or fully committed to transitions. Her jumps are beautiful though.

@fashionmwah 4 жыл бұрын

1chienandalou Thank you so much for letting me know! Otherwise I wouldn’t have checked. Lol! Man it looks crisp and clean. The question is whether it’s consistent or not because Instagram allows us to choose the best photos and videos to post. I hope it is!

@grisgris6908 4 жыл бұрын

This season is very interesting- in the ladies there are skaters really pushing things forward, and a lot of skaters actually moving things backward (have we ever seen so many combos with a double toe on the end?). There are the skaters stretching to reach the technical content of Eteri's girls, and then a surprisingly large group of ladies hanging onto lower level triple combos, with no other evolution in their skating skills, artistry, content, etc. By the end of this season going into the next, I think there will be a real shakedown in terms of who is still competitive.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

The 2T is just for extra points

@grisgris6908 4 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson I realize that, and I realize all skaters have to rack up points wherever they can, but to me it’s a very unimpressive, lackluster way to go about it. Especially the two tacked on double toes, OMG you added two double toes!! 🙄

@BrentWolgamott 4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan at 19:47 - Jonathan: "I don't know why that throw triple Salchow of hers doesn't get +4's....it's beautiful". Jonathan IT DID!!!!! Maybe you're looking at the wrong protocol? In fact, BOTH of Sui/Han throws averaged above +4. The 3S had GOE marks of [ +5 +4 +5 +5 +4 +5 +5 +4 +4 ] from the judges, and the throw triple Flip had GOE of marks of [ +5 +5 +5 +5 +4 +5 +4 +5 +5 ]. The judges are giving them ALLLLLLLL the points in the world. :-)

@BrentWolgamott 4 жыл бұрын

Never mind. Dave corrected him. LOL. And read off the scores for both. BLESS DAVE!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Now did you pause and look it up, or did you have them memorized?

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Saila Kinnunen how are you measuring the distance in real time

@tb4522 4 жыл бұрын

I've thought for awhile that KMT has diminished what made her special to match Michael. What was so cool about her with Dylan was her balls to be the walls skating style. I don't even know if this soft, contemporary is his style or if they are just trying to go pairs trends. Whichever, they need to go back to the style that made KMT a star! They need hard hitting music next year.

@tonyayoungblood387 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with your assessment of Russian ladies at present. I think Kostornaia has the most sustainable technique like Jonathan was saying but it very well may be that the top Eteri skaters for Beijing '22 has not even emerged yet.

@ColonelGreen 4 жыл бұрын

If they haven't emerged by now, they won't be eligible to compete senior in the 2021/22 season. The juniors who debuted this year are the last who'll be able to move up in time.

@tonyayoungblood387 4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan your House Hunters ep was very cool. Melinda seems like a delightful person , you are lucky to have her as a friend and roomate. I'm a native New Yorker and don't see your buying in Harlem as any kind of gentrification. haters are gonna hate and ainters are gonna ain't - let the ridiculousness roll right off your back.

@Skate11Canada 4 жыл бұрын

Omg YES it is SO awkward dropping a coach & still being in the same rink with them 😬🙄 I wouldn’t recommend it LOL

@AC-co6cp 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to get everyone's impression of Matteo Rizzo's FP recently in China. Please discuss.

@joannm.1756 4 жыл бұрын

Dave, your audio is so much lower than Jonathan's

@irenelai5247 4 жыл бұрын

piper and paul made the final in 2015 when davis/white and virtue/moir weren't there and p/c weren't big yet

@iamkid_a 4 жыл бұрын

i recorded jonathan 's episode on youtube tv, and you can do it on hulu if you buy the tv package... get it together jonathan!!

@allypera1378 4 жыл бұрын

My guess Shiseido is sponsoring the event because they want to promote/expand their brand and market in China. Lots of international brands are using Chinese celebrities to promote their brand since the Chinese are a huge consumer of luxury goods.

@oceanle 4 жыл бұрын

Is anyone doing the timestamp on this ?

@BahamaWynters 4 жыл бұрын

Claudia. This came on Saturday instead of Sunday. Surprise. She is splendid, isn't she?

@Karlinberlin1 4 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing Sheshiedo (sp?) was marketing to Japanese fans who are crazy for figure skating. Only a couple hour difference to Tokyo.

@Essylte 4 жыл бұрын

I was surprised at Sui/Han's new SP. I like it, but not as much as their Blues for Klook SP two years before. Their long program...yes! They kept it! They only performed it twice this year. I think Sui needs to change her dress, though. If only to match Han's more. Scherbakova's win was expected; Miyahara getting the silver here was unexpected. Tuktamysheva with her 2 3As I had predicted for silver. I do like Miyahara's FP, though. Boyang winning the men's singles here was expected. However, he needs to bring his A-game if he's going to compete with Yuzuru and Nathan. Han Yan's comeback was WOW! That 3A...but like Jason Brown, needs to up his technical content if he's going to be competing against Jin, Hanyu and Chen. I felt bad for Young You, but I have a feeling she'll be at 4CC, and even Worlds. Mateo Rizzo did well, but not enough to get into the GPF; I do think he'll medal again at Euros. NHK should be for Sui and Han to win; all they need to do is get that Grand Prix Final title. Thanks for the recap! Rostelecom is going to be a blast!

@sashafan2 4 жыл бұрын

I love Satoko free skate, but I think her 3Lz+3T was underrotated, had a flat edge takeoff, low height and it got no downgrades and +3 GOE. That's not fair. See this GIF s5o.ru/storage/simple/ru/ugc/9e/2a/e8/ba/ruu9be5d36777.gif

@virginiana3783 4 жыл бұрын

it wasn't an Audi, Jonathan, it was a Lexus. Lexus Cup of China. And the first time they had it it was pointed toward the rink, like it was going to gun right onto the ice. SOOOOOO tacky. Thank God they got away from that. I'd love to know what was in the gift boxes on the podium -- did you see? The pairs looked completely nonplussed at having to juggle a bouquet and a gift box!

@kaitlynclem5967 4 жыл бұрын

She won't be age eligible in time for Beijing, but China does have a lady coming up - An Xiangyi. She'll be on the JGP next year.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but they need a senior for the team event

@kaitlynclem5967 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Yes, I know. Looks like they'll have to settle for one of their new recruits this time around.

@nataliemolina2428 4 жыл бұрын

I saw on jackie wong’s twitter that sui and Han we’re still deciding if they’re going to keep the long program.

@bettybleu12 4 жыл бұрын

Natalie Molina I love both their programs last year. And as Jonathan mentioned, it’s nice to see them again since we didn’t see them much as they were out half the year. But they need matching color costumes in the long imho.

@nataliemolina2428 4 жыл бұрын

Same, I thought the costumes they used for the free last year suited them more. Hopefully they update their costumes by the Grand Prix final.

@aphroditewitch 4 жыл бұрын

No mention of Sasha Cohen's recent podcast interview?

@irenelai5247 4 жыл бұрын

to go to the olympics in beijing, you need to be at least 13 in isu age. aka on the junior grand prix

@jasonkanzler1073 4 жыл бұрын

One thing you guys did not talk about (Although it might be in the comments trail) is Danny O'Shea's shaved head. I am kinda torn about it. Can you talk about it when they skate at NHK? I really need to some feedback about it since I am not sure I like it or not.

@TheSkatingLesson 4 жыл бұрын

Jason Kanzler I don’t love it, but they aren’t skating well. It would feel like we are really kicking them when they are down.

@jasonkanzler1073 4 жыл бұрын

Good point but it was distracting nonetheless

@zielona_hortensja3362 4 жыл бұрын

Piper & Paul were once in GPF, the post-sochi year, that was the year they made a huge step forward. Just saying, don't wanna to be annoying ;)

@emilytan4223 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t get why Hamada wasn’t with Satoko in the kiss and cry. It seems so strange🤔🤔

@brankakovacevic6174 4 жыл бұрын

yes ,really strange -didn't notice Hamada with Satoko at K&C !!!????

@xiangnibian8473 4 жыл бұрын

Victoria Sinitsina & Nikita Katsalapov have the beautiful body lines which helps in dance. Haven Denney & Brandon Frazier really dlivered good performances in France and I wish them continuous success.

@ColonelGreen 4 жыл бұрын

To make the Final, Bradie needs a helping hand from countrywoman Mariah. If Mariah can beat Satoko at Rostelecom, Bradie's got a pretty strong chance of winning the points tiebreaker, but it all rides on that.

@Ardit-kq4bt 4 жыл бұрын

Colonel Green hopefully not, bradie is horrible!!

@rop888 4 жыл бұрын

Mariah's chances herself aren't bad. CoC worked out well for her with You and Liza not doing that well and Satoko beating them. She needs silver. It's not impossible for her considering how Medvedeva last skated. Though it is Russia. Satoko needs forth with a higher score than Bradie and to beat Mariah.

@user-fc2xv2fo7x 4 жыл бұрын

Silver Medvedeva .Rostelecom. Bronze Bell Miahara Silver Bradie sk america

@ColonelGreen 4 жыл бұрын

@mish098aimer No, we don't know that. Kihira is also a strong Final medal contender; her BV (assuming the Lutzes are back) is akin to Alena and Anna's.

@ColonelGreen 4 жыл бұрын

@mish098aimer No, Kihira and Kostornaia will have the same base value in the short program. Both are also aiming to introduce quads at some point in the free (Kihira seems to be closer; it was delayed because of her ankle). Kihira has also been much more consistent in her two competitions this season compared to last year.