This and That: 2021 Rostelecom Cup (Kamila Valieva, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Alysa Liu)
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2 жыл бұрынThis week, Alysa Liu announced that she was moving and not moving to Colorado while the top skaters headed to Russia for the sixth stop on the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating. Kamila Valieva, Maya Khromykh and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva battled it out in the women's event. Mariah Bell may have kept her Olympic dream alive. Meanwhile, Mikhail Kolyada lost to Morisi Kvitelashvili at the Rostelecom Cup. The Russian commentators were not pleased with his performance. Meanwhile, Kazuki Tomono earned the hearts of the crowd with an ending that gets us every time. Meanwhile, Hawayek and Baker, Mishina and Galliamov, Moore-Towers and Marinaro, and Roman Sadovsky did the most to make this an Olympic season to remember. We break it all down and more on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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@qiwi2980 2 жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro 1:05 Jonathan's controversial comments about Daniil Gleikhengauz 10:34 Team Tutberidze Leaderboard 14:30 Alissa Liu 34:55 Hubbell/Donohue, Moore-Towers/Marinaro 56:33 Mariah Bell 1:00:28 Maya Khromykh, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 1:04:12 Kamila Valieva 1:09:04 Loena Hendrix 1:10:05 Michail Kolyada 1:12:11 Madeline Schizas 1:13:10 Roman Sadovsky, Nam Nguyen 1:14:15 Shun Sato, Kazuki Tomono 1:17:03 Morisi Kvitelashvili 1:20:20 Vicky and Nicky (Sinitsina/Katsalapov) 1:22:32 Guignard/Fabri 1:23:37 Hawayek/Baker, Green/Parsons, Smart/Diaz 1:34:00 Olympic bronze medal, Gilles/Poirier, Hubbell/Donohue, team event 1:43:30 Ladies grand prix final
@bettybleu12 2 жыл бұрын
I love the stamps!!! I already saw this all once but it’s nice to go back straight to the funny topics again. Thanks!!!
@AuroraR 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I love these 🥰
@mariajesseannegloria3026 2 жыл бұрын
“They are not my girls. It’s our athletes. It’s our sport that we all love so much. What does it matter who comes from where. I like the actual discipline. That’s why I wanna make sure the discipline moves forward the way I would like to see it.” My very sentiments. Thank you, Jonathan. 💖
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@Littlemoefam 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. As a skating parent for the past twelve years it’s been sad to see the way the sport has devolved. I don’t think the current trajectory is an evolution, that would have positive connotations.
@mariajesseannegloria3026 2 жыл бұрын
@@Littlemoefam Let’s just hope that things will eventually move forward for the better. The junior ranks is filled with a lot of potential. Maybe, when they move up the senior ranks, the sport will finally move forward in the right direction. 🙏🏻
@lexadex 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan's penmanship is *exactly* what I thought it would be! The elegance of his capital Z in Zoueva is giving me life.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@dannyhayes4474 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about how nice Jonathan’s hand writing is?
@almourie 2 жыл бұрын
Right! It was really nice
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@haikushfotlyan4367 2 жыл бұрын
Valievas bolero not my favorite but you cannot deny her skills. Ice coverage, speed, extensions, body line, technical prowess...wow
@biscuitcase83 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with most of that apart from...her jump technique isn't great. She gets great height and distance, and thankfully seems to have straightened out her air position, but the Eteri technique is still very noticeable. She's landing her big scoring jumps at this point more consistently than Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaia though
@rajs7876 2 жыл бұрын
Carolina Kostner only female to do Bolero justice
@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what she could do with actual well choreographed programs with well chosen music. Bolero in particular just leaves me cold, it’s a hard watch. Her body line could also be much better presented in less chaotic costumes. And she’s fast but scratchy and her jump technique is really quite wonky, especially her flip & Lutz & the way she lurches in between combo jumps. These are all things that should factor into her score but don’t. And that’s a shame, because she could be even better if she was given honest judgement with areas to improve.
@alisatsaava8454 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajs7876 can't agree more! Carolina's Bolero is unforgettable. I had a pleasure of watching Caro's FS in Sochi. What a perfomance it was!
@primalcritters 5 ай бұрын
@@rajs7876are kidding me? Love Carolina, but Kamila's extensive ballet training makes her stand leaps and bounds above any of these other skaters and her bolero is magnificent. Nobody can do body lines, poise, extensions, flexibility, use of arms and hands like Kamila. She could have been a Russian prima ballerina which are the best of the best of the best
@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын
Crying with laughter that you both literally did lists for who is better than Danny G
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
I would add Mark Naylor, Misha Ge and my 16 year old daughter to the list too
@corgeousgeorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellsbellsmichelle Misha Ge! That's a good one that wasn't selected.
@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellsbellsmichelle OMG…. I’m laughing so hard I’m crying. 😂
@kennydreadfuls861 2 жыл бұрын
And they needed two pages.
@rachelheller1396 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Roman will get the second spot for Canada. I think that Mariah Bell has helped herself with these free skates. I am concerned with Alyssa Liu chances of making the Olympic team next year because she switched coaches. Also, when is Mikhail Koylada going back to White Crow for free skate. No time like the present. Congratulations to Jason Brown on making the Grand Prix Final.
@patrickneedham3363 2 жыл бұрын
Am I imagining it or did Dave for the first time ever actually pay Daria Pavliuchenko a modest compliment? Daria is talented and she looks nice on the ice. Yes they are a quirky, unconventional team and I'm thankful for that. More entertaining to watch than the other 3 Russian teams most of the time. I think they get less acknowledgment than they deserve.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
It was modest.
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
Daria’s skating skills aren’t very good and her extension could be better.
@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын
I have never appreciated M/G and this competition was no exception. I have nothing but praise for their tech abilities, but their skating is a non-event for me and their material is totally disconnected from who they are as skaters. P/K are far more exciting and watchable. I'd have put them at least a few points ahead after the short.
@negaodascocota 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them at the Olympics. They deserved the 3° spot. Your free program doesn't give me any reaction, however your short is the most fun of the season. I have mixed feelings about Boikova / Kozlovskii this season. They are great skaters, but their programs are horrible.
@kittyslinxalott7815 2 жыл бұрын
My moment of the week was Matteo Rizzo and his long program. It’s just my cup of tea and look forward to seeing it again this season.
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too
@hoizgmischt 2 жыл бұрын
Best program of the men's event! And my personal favourite of the whole event.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@cdw3497 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely!
@davidandrusia137 2 жыл бұрын
I live for Matteo. Forza Italia!
@janicecoker6519 2 жыл бұрын
I have always been a big fan of Mariah Bell. I love watching her smiling face, expresses warmth and her love of skating through her whole body with the music. I just think she needs to believe in herself that she can do it.. She definitely deserves to be in the mix to go to Olympics.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@MidnightRain111 2 жыл бұрын
I used to find the Team Event a boring fake competition but this time it is shaping up to be much more thrilling than the women's event in fact. I'll be more excited to watch the fight between teams JPN-USA-RUS than the predictable Kamila-Anna-Liza podium in ladies'.
@anacampos5112 2 жыл бұрын
Japan have really a chance to medal this year if they fit the right pieces!
@almourie 2 жыл бұрын
So ready to listen in this week! So much happened from alysa, to morisei, to my girl liza and her flailing arms! Ugh love it here ❤️
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын
We are a fun, rowdy, bitchy bunch. 😎
@grisgris6908 2 жыл бұрын
Kaitlyn Hawayek looked absolutely STUNNING in the free, their best free dance by far. I feel so disappointed with their habitual underscoring. That free was silky smooth and elegant.
@hannahland7863 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Their edges on the one foot sequence were so good. Maybe once H/D retire next year H/B will get more positive attention?
@debbied2715 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannahland7863 I was disappointed with their one foot step score too and I loved this program
@maria375s 2 жыл бұрын
The two of you really cheer me up every Sunday, love your discussions of figure skating!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@Plaspos 2 жыл бұрын
Eteri tutberidze should have been on that list. Adios nonino (Kostornaia 2018) is just so good
@atiz4073 2 жыл бұрын
She also choreographed Valieva's Girl on a Ball and Zagitova's Don Quijote so essentially the few good programs that come out of that camp were mainly choreographed by Eteri (which is not the best look for DG)
@almourie 2 жыл бұрын
@@atiz4073 didn’t rozanov do girl on a ball?
@ginamelendez6603 2 жыл бұрын
She also choreographed stella's theme if i'm not wrong. Besides that, she choreographed Polina Tsurskaya's fs of 2016-2017 season to the song february from Leonid Levashkevish, a beautiful program.
@jacquelineblance4861 2 жыл бұрын
Departure and Storm are beautiful programs.
@aishahosman2465 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelineblance4861 they’re essentially the same program
@manulbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, you just have to admit it. For you, the moment of the week was when Tatyana Anatolyevna asked you to share your favorite choreographers list.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@LapsangMao 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that you two pulled out your ice cream à la Rostelecom Cup 🍦🍦🍦
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@carloscordero6695 2 жыл бұрын
What the fuck is that quad toe technique from Morisi? He literally puts no weight on his right leg before take off! It is all on his left leg. It is like a salchow but he uses the blade to actually take off. Go watch it in slow motion. It is sooooo weird!!
@Julia-js7bs 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Kazuki Tamono's FP just sparks so much joy! It truly is one of the best men's programms this season. I wish J-Fed would give a smidge of the support they give Yuma to him (and also Wakaba).
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@racheld.6804 2 жыл бұрын
„My 8 year old nephew“ 😂😂😂 Help! I can’t!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@loc1976 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I have to add here one of my moments of the week: Matteo Rizzo not flopping and skating his heart out! I think he deserves at least a mention this week, guys. I love him. 🙂 Also: Rostelecom judges were dying to help Zhenia get to the GPF and he did flop. The massively engineered score for Kazuki so he'd finish behind Misha. Morisi's puzzling rise, of course. Tamara Moskvina eating ice cream and just being the bubbliest bean. Picking apart Kamila's great, but certainly less than perfect performance. Trying to guess if Danny G's hair is still only his own hair. Also: I don't care for Liza, but in a world where scores make no sense at all, I say good for her! I mean, Liza could be the reason Eteri doesn't dominate the podium. I have no idea how that happened, but that's power. Also: I also think KMT lost her mojo. I know people don't talk about it.......... but she made the decision to end a successful partnership, then watched her close competitors D/R win an OBM, then looked at her own past outlook and her own choice and, man, I am convinced she was shaken. Maybe even watching AS win OGM with only a 4 year partnership, when she thought the only way for a long, successful career was to change partners when she did. Then even as SC's leading team, their technical limit was clearly set, and I think she had dreamt a lot higher and is not finding the energy right now for the reality she's in. The fact that J/R appeared in scene, I think it affected MM a lot more, bc he's very close to TM and probably indulged in a few pity parties, and also bc he knows he's the weak link and lost his confidence to defend his position as Canadian champion. You add MM's unconfidence to KMT's doubts/lack of energy and it's a hot mess that is really a snow ball where each one's bad attitude feeds off of the other's. It's brutal, but I don't see them getting it together, honestly. Also: I didn't watch ice dance, but I know I hated Niki's shirts. All of them. With passion.
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
Roman kind of proved me wrong here by not being a flop, and I would send him to the Olympics over Nam at this point, but the technical specialist at Rostelecom was extremely lenient. He made very few underrotation or edge calls for anyone, and at least a couple of Roman’s jumps were definitely under. If Shin Amano had been the caller, Roman’s score would have been much lower. I hope he works on the underrotations and doesn’t think he’s fine just because they weren’t called here.
@Gui_PT 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if Shin Amani made the calls, Morisi’s quad toe salchows could be zayak’d, one can hope
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gui_PT Hopefully
@Pokav1deo 2 жыл бұрын
JB: “What does it matter, who comes from where?”
@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people who think otherwise. It's good to be proud of your country but I've learnt in sports that many fans have this toxic mentality that their country is the best in the world no matter what.
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
How did Jonathan forget David Wilson and Shae-Lynn Bourne? They don’t always hit, but they have both given us some iconic programs.
@bettybleu12 2 жыл бұрын
Yuh! Heard of Yuna Kim? Doesn’t hit all the time, but they were the perfect combination.
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
@@bettybleu12 I don’t think Jonathan was a fan of Yuna’s skating for some reason. He was a Mao fan. But David Wilson also choreographed iconic programs for Daisuke Takahashi, Jeffrey Buttle, Sasha Cohen, etc. Not sure how anyone could leave him off of a list of great choreographers
@janicecoker6519 2 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly SHAE-LYNN BOURNE, David Wilson
@nicoledunn4300 2 жыл бұрын
Ice dance chat starts @ 1:20:23 :) thanks as always for the video guys!
@katrinastack5245 2 жыл бұрын
Finished last week’s just five minutes ago! Perfect timing!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@specialj67 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that Hawayek and Baker choreographed their free dance this season. I love it and thought they were underscored at this event.
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. They're my favourite US dance team.
@grisgris6908 2 жыл бұрын
totally underscored!
@cdw3497 2 жыл бұрын
They were outstanding here!
@debbied2715 2 жыл бұрын
agree! I loved it too!
@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын
They are consistently underscored. It's a shame. It seems the prevailing wisdom now is that three American teams are not allowed to be in the top tier anymore.
@saramisthal6658 2 жыл бұрын
Your sweaters are on point! The ice cream and Danny G lists 🤣. I love how even when Jonathan travels there is a vase. I hope you both had a nice holiday!
@mirko5198 2 жыл бұрын
I want to be Jonathan's vase, each of every Sunday! You guys unexceptionally cheer me up! Me,myself and my cup of tea are ready for the video !
@nvadqs 2 жыл бұрын
You are really something! this was hysterical! Wen Dave's 8 yeal-old nephew was approved by Jonathan I was crying with laughter!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@susanlange5003 2 жыл бұрын
Kazuki had my heart since his 5th place finish at Worlds with that red dress shirt and his wonderful West Side Story program! So glad he has new coaches! He is so talented in the performance area. I hope Japan would send him over Shun Sato as Shun and Yuma are too cut from the same facial deadpan cloth.
@Yenasa 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness me too! He radiates so much joy when he skates. His short program this season is just gorgeous and it was so lovely to see him skate it clean.
@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын
You hope Japan would send Kazuki where? Surely not the Olympics - that'll be Hanyu, Uno and Kagiyama
@jacquelineblance4861 2 жыл бұрын
@@benbailey159bb Hanyu's participation in this Olympics is still to be seen...
@fionan7311 2 жыл бұрын
Kazuki has a good chance of being sent to worlds! Also he deserved gold rather than bronze at this competition.
@sallyjean2250 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best! Thank you!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@corgeousgeorge 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Dave Lease is so humble when Jonathan says "Dave you were right again" and Dave makes this face of "Well, yeah, I'm always right, have we not noticed?" I was laughing so hard and thought, "Well now, David Spletnikov would NEVER be so bold, he is a good Russian boy not like naughty Jonathan Beyer and Dave Lease LOL."
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! I had already heard by the time I said it last week, but I was only 96% sure of the situation.
@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson Dave, you’re a Pisces. You’re an empath.
@erin6621 2 жыл бұрын
Mariah’s a beautiful skater, but if you had told me 8 years ago that (potentially) two of the US women in line to get Olympic spots-Karen and Mariah-would not have consistent triple triples-at least in practice, I would have been surprised. Especially with the way other countries have progressed technically. They are lucky that judges seem to like them, and Mariah in particular that this was a high scoring event. It’s been pointed out on Twitter how close Mariah and Wakaba’s free skate scores were, even though we know scoring across events varies, it stings a bit. Also, if Mariah makes it, I hope that he tries to detract the media from it becoming “the Adam show”-yes, we love the both of them, but I kept getting annoyed by the clip showing up in my feed of Mariah’s 2020 nationals performance with Adam miked up.
@maryloureiff6489 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, Dave, I adore Kazuki Tomono..He is my skating grandson..I have watched the last minute of his La La Land 50 times..It brings me joy..And I love his CP sp..
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
I love him so much!
@maryloureiff6489 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson BTW..a certain NBC commentator called his choreographic sequence a "step sequence"..What's in a name?
@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, agree, but we will not see him at GPF, so sad !!!!!!!!
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
I love Hawayek / Baker. They're my favorite US team.
@tanyawade4954 2 жыл бұрын
Mine, too. Glad they are back on the ice.
@astrobinch 2 жыл бұрын
Marina is living her best life with Daisuke on her farewell tour 🤪
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@jiayixu5389 2 жыл бұрын
!!!ive been refreshing my youtube for two days for this episode
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@haikushfotlyan4367 2 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite choreography is klimova and ponomarenkos freedance from 1992, breathtaking
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous! Santi Rushpaul!
@haikushfotlyan4367 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson totally...I wish we could choreo like that again
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, Trusova skating to Big Spender is a CAMP CLASSIC. I love an inappropriate music choice!
@andreagoldstein4070 2 жыл бұрын
My moment was Roman's quad combo in the second half plus the end of Kazuki's LLL.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын
Best line ever: Listen, Danny stuck with Frank for ten years. YAS, Kween.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@vistaprime 2 жыл бұрын
I preferred the "quad was never real" line. Pure shade but true. Liu has no quad.
@cathm8523 2 жыл бұрын
I think Maddie and Roman both made a big step this week toward their chances of making Olympic team. International judges love Roman, he has easy speed, great spins and seems to be peaking. Madeline proved that she is a fighter coming back in her free program. She also has a more difficult jump combo and seems to thrive under pressure more so than Gabi Daleman. Also, interesting that Michael Slipchuk was there this week and seemed pleased with both of them. As for Kirsten and Michael I’m starting to worry they won’t even make the team, only because Evelyn and Trennt have a history of peaking at nationals. Anyone remember them beating out Lubov and Charlie not that long ago for a spot on the world team? Don’t count them out.
@username-so8hw 2 жыл бұрын
does canada only have one olympic spot for the ladies?
@arthurtheaardvark13 2 жыл бұрын
@@username-so8hw yes
@username-so8hw 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurtheaardvark13 that’s what i thought :( thank u!
@hannahdeclerck6825 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS!!!! Makes my day!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@len10100 2 жыл бұрын
Omg Dave you have me dying here 🤣🤣🤣 “Tuktamysheva changes coach to Eteri she’ll be in the Olympic Team!!!” 😂😂💀💀💀 I love you!! 😂😂
@Sophia-dnbetyt 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the lie though 😂😂
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
Dave, I need to give you sweater love. I think I might use that gradient inspiration for my next sweater I knit for my son. Love it ❤️
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just got it at Express!
@skatefan9495 2 жыл бұрын
Mariah skated an old-school, 6.0 type free skate. And I loved it.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
💯🥇
@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, i've noticed that... Although i'm a fan of revolutionary ( ultra C) skating, i nostalgically enjoyed watching Mariah.
@oleczekr8528 2 жыл бұрын
everyone can find a favorite skater or a program in every warm-up, isn't that great?
@ZoeIsAnAngel 2 жыл бұрын
Never ever change speaking your truth and sass. I love how you handle criticism of your opinions with light hearted humor. The choreo lists 🤣
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@bettybleu12 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching this at 2am. How the “bleep” can I go to sleep now? So entertaining.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@johnispo 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting all weekend for this!!!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@mdzhanezashvili 2 жыл бұрын
Do you share your impression/opinion on competition before makig video or it´s totally fresh in video? Thank you, I really love your analysis and jokes! I speak russian and I adore Dave’s “russian” accent and jokes! 👌💙🍀
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
We don't discuss anything ahead of time. It is all fresh.
@mdzhanezashvili 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for respond :) Maybe that´s what makes it so exciting… My favorites from you are: “Angeloka” And Maya CHromychCHHHH 😂😂😂👍
@ValeriaMasarsky 2 жыл бұрын
You guys were so funny with that ice cream!! Dave, da best!!! 😂😂
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@olgas6520 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you about the identity of Hubble and Donahue!
@wendy5725 2 жыл бұрын
Best episode, I especially enjoyed the list of expert choreographers including Abby Lee.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@ElishaaLi 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of hate and criticism in these comments is now comical. Serious denial by some of these people…
@zb6070 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Jill asked Abby if Kendall can play Rosa Parks.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
Ha!!
@mempto 2 жыл бұрын
"chaotic limbs...like a horse that's just been born" Jonathan, never stop!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@patrickneedham3363 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment of the entire episode!
@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын
Naughty Jonathan lol
@rajs7876 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys and your opinions are valued enough to be included in Russian media. You do a better job than most journalists at raising important issues in the sport.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@VivyTheLife 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about Montreal's free dances: Smart/Diaz and Hawayek/Baker fd looks the most polished
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын
I am working on timestamps today! Will need a few hours to get them done!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@abbibrophy7671 2 жыл бұрын
Elizveta has dreadful floppy arm movements from a dancer's perspective these are a big problem ruins her interpretation she needs to get some ballet training
@SergejKrolik 2 жыл бұрын
She has dreadful everything - step sequence, spins, skating skills etc. - except might and holy lutz take off technique. Why she is being so pushed in scores and praised by fans when even Ryabova is better dancer than her - is beyond me.
@saraehtor7753 2 жыл бұрын
@@SergejKrolik FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT 😭
@EvgeniaKostiaeva 2 жыл бұрын
She's a skater not dancer.
@khinsushein4906 2 жыл бұрын
Very good discussion and have learned so many things.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@riveroak-dp8gt 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Tomono‘s skating as well but was just so shocked that Morisi had so much higher component scores 🙈 it’s just so crazy, what glasses were those judges wearing 😂
@celiareed1402 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Chanukah! Just smashed that like button.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@eljj7968 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, wondered who that woman with Mariah was lol. Curious why Adam wasn’t there since he was there last week. Kudos to Mariah though, I think she was great. I really love her skating, triple triple or not.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
Mariah's SP dress is my favourite costume of all the ladies this season so far.
@kristinab3838 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellsbellsmichelle I don't think the color is great on her. I personally think the darker colors aren't great with her complexion. I think she looks best with pastels or white.
@skatfan 2 жыл бұрын
That is Raf’s wife who also coaches.
@oleczekr8528 2 жыл бұрын
Adam must have been afraid of visiting such a homophobic country as Russia, while Johnny Weir on the contrary has spent several nights in the very heart of Mordor without any fear and seemed to have enjoyed his entire stay in Moscow. Imagine, nobody cared!
@melissamoralez4298 2 жыл бұрын
The combination of Dave managing the melty ice cream and explaining the the Sambo 70 pyramid has me on the FLOOR! HILARIOUS!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@chrisjacobsen5558 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, I love your take on Vicki and Nikki. Couldn’t agree more.
@notsoearnesthemingway582 2 жыл бұрын
You guys made me laugh so hard until my tummy hurts this early in the morning from the other side of the world.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@RidickRidick 2 жыл бұрын
Guys relax, the scores of Valieva is strong and fair! Let be more friendly, you have double feeling saying oh she's good, but in your mind always have bad thoughts about tutberidze team
@arthurtheaardvark13 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO Valieva's scores are strong for sure but they're definitely nowhere even in the realm of fair. That Eteri bonus is the strongest part of her scores. 10s in the PCs? What a joke!
@birdtweettweet 2 жыл бұрын
Abby Lee Miller and Gianna Martello - I just can't! Love you guys!!!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын
Finishing the timestamps tomorrow after work! I also have a foot injury as well and I need more rest for the rest of the holiday season as well. This may be the case for timestamps going forward that I may need more time
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@KellyeR1970 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever find out what happened to Star Andrews in France. She was looking like she was about to pass out. I have been looking all over but haven't seen anything.
@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын
The disconnect for Mikhail comes from the fact he looks like Damien from The Omen.
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to go back to Nuriev White Crow Free
@biscuitcase83 2 жыл бұрын
I'm never going to be able to look at him the same way ever again now 😆
@jacquelineblance4861 2 жыл бұрын
Damien hahaha LOL 😂 🤣
@jacquelineblance4861 2 жыл бұрын
@@biscuitcase83 Facts!!!
@kimmietooshoes 2 жыл бұрын
Chock & Bates have the higher combined score, I’m hoping they get on the podium at the Grand Prix final. The alien program has grown on me and I love the Billie Eilish program. And I’m still hoping they split the dance teams in the team event.
@bettybleu12 2 жыл бұрын
I concur. I wish they can both share in an Olympic team medal.
@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын
I think they need to put H/D in the RD and C/B in the free. It's the obvious move. Both teams have earned it and the scores bear out this move. Nathan and Vincent for the men. Alysa for women, Alexa and Brandon for pairs. It makes the most sense. And if for some bonkers reason Nathan wants to do both, I'm sure another lady or pair will happily step in. None of our women are competitive anyway, and I think another pair like Ashley and Tim could hold up in a short or free for us. C/B are stars - that alien program is going to be iconic by the Olympics.
@takeaguess08 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesupremediva this!!! It would be a missed opportunity for the USFS to not have HD ANNND CB skate the team event. Looking at the Countries who have so far qualified CB & HD can earn the US top points depending on who skates for Russia. Ladies are a non starter, it won't matter who they have compete. USFS needs to prop up the best team.
@seattlesusan5464 2 жыл бұрын
kevin c Haters are always gonna hate.
@tranquilitytranquility1407 2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday it was all the excitement about who is in the grand prix final and now there might not even be a Grand Prix final 😭
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@margaritadanova4764 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Kamila's Bolero has gotten better. When she does all her jumps, it looks mind-blowing. Just the overall impression of the program is overwhelming. Last year it was a mess. Being a fan of Liza, I really want her to make the team, but right now there's little chance. It seems possible as long as one more of Eteri's girls gets injured, and that's definitely not something I'd like to happen. Honestly, it is heartbreaking that there are so many good skaters that just don't get the opportunity to show what they can do during major competitions, especially considering the fact they have spent a decade or two working hard to get ready for this.
@DeepSeas.. 2 жыл бұрын
Tuktamysheva is solidly in the third spot with room for improvement. If the decision were made today, she’d be on the team. If she can continue to be consistent and place in the top 3 at the GPF and Russian Nationals, she’s going. With the current state of all the Eteri injuries, those podium finishes are more than doable for her. It’s basically in her hands whether she’s on the team, which is the best position she could hope for considering Eteri’s influence.
@72586jejones 2 жыл бұрын
I think her chance is as good as any Russian lady not named Kamila, and that is only if Kamy remains injury free, which I hope she does. If the team was chosen today, it would be Kamila, Anna and Liza, no question. Anna could end up in the hospital at any moment, Sasha is a huge question mark, Maiia is not reliable and Alena only has one ultra C element that is not reliable in competition. Anything can happen!
@margaritadanova4764 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeepSeas.. If we look at Rostelecom Cup, Maya would have come second if not for her missed jump in the short skate. So I wouldn't be so sure. We'll see what we'll see, of course, but I'm really afraid that they might choose Kamila, Maya and Anna. That will be quite possible if Maya scores higher than Anna in the Nationals.
@margaritadanova4764 2 жыл бұрын
@@72586jejones Yes, I think I'd love to agree with you, yet Maya (or Maiia) can do quads, unlike Liza. And if she does her triples in her SP, she might come second after Kamila in the Nationals. Plus her SP looks stylish, as the young lady feels the rhythm of the music, imo. Anna doesn't seem to have any injuries at the moment, but neither did Sasha back in September. So who knows? It's all really mysterious to me, so if I were in the shoes of the guys of the RusFed, I wouldn't bet on anyone just yet, since it's pointless right now.
@EvgeniaKostiaeva 2 жыл бұрын
@@margaritadanova4764 Maya doesn't show consistency this season. It would be very risky to send her to OG.
@0c0p0c0 2 жыл бұрын
Morisi made it snow heavier than in Vermont. That was some messy jumping. They have basically discredited him with that scoring.
@hannahma7064 2 жыл бұрын
I have thoughts about the pairs! Disclaimer: due to time limitations I was only able to watch the second group in pairs in this whole entire astonishing 4-discipline event. I apologize if I missed out on important information, and also if I use the wrong turn of phrase in this rant. I liked M/G’s free from last year better than this year’s. Last year, the impression that I had of them was that they had innovative transitions that fitted well with the program and I really loved that. I think this year’s didn’t feel as inspiring to me mostly because the transitions I associated with We Are the Champions are being used on an entirely different background music. Honestly, they vary in skating speed very little, and they’re not doing slow strokes that gain them tons of speed which I feel would be more appropriate for the music. They move fast, which is why I think last year’s program was better for them. Fantastic win overall! P/K was interesting for me. I felt like their free created more of a moment than M/G and B/K, and by that I mean the build of the program. They had a pretty good skate and I was impressed! They, like B/K, were never my favorite Russian team, though, and I thought long and hard about why. I think it’s because both teams give me the same impression as Kamila Valieva’s skating. They have great positions, great extension, but they kind of “snap” into it? I’m not sure it’s the right description for it, but it’s kind of like skate, skate, skate, BAM! HERE’S A BEAUTIFUL POSITION! Like when Boikova does the twist, she pushes her free leg up after being put down on the ice in a rather abrupt manner. Not hating on them! They’re all great skaters that I admire but my favorite style is Panfilova/Rylov’s. (Her free leg is the definition of smooth ascent.) Third place was interesting. I’m not sure if I agree with the results, but I can see where the judges had the space to maneuver (besides the fact that they’re Russians and Lu/Mitrofanov aren’t). I watched them compete maybe twice before this event, and I know they’re a new pair (both used to skate singles), hence the very inconsistent throws. They disguise the rest of their pair elements relatively well, such as the very fast, smooth but short lifts. And this is where L/M lost to them, the (perceived) quality of elements. The GOE the Russians got were a bit too high, methinks, but their lifts do in fact give the impression of being more polished than L/M. I’m no expert on skating skills, so I’ll say nothing about that! It was higher than I expected with two major mistakes tho :/ After that really long rant about four skates, I want to end by saying I’m rooting for the Japanese at the finals :)))
@mai3334 2 жыл бұрын
How many iterations of that Bolero costume are they going to do?
@sophien.1422 2 жыл бұрын
At least one more 😂😂 I read an interview where Kamila said that they (I assume the coaches) still aren't completely happy with it.
@biscuitcase83 2 жыл бұрын
I'd just burn the thing and start over completely at this point
@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so freaking hideous that they should just burn it and contact whoever does the costumes for South Korea and beg them for help.
@ginamelendez6603 2 жыл бұрын
@@amethyst5512 that would be so nice 😭 I am so tired of the costumes these girls get. I would die to see Kamila in a simple elegante dress for bolero.
@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I love sundays because of TSL
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@bekalynn1980 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t mind the big scores for a Valieva. She is really a beautiful skater that short program is so beautiful to watch. It’s not the Russian judges giving her 10s. I think the judged are latching on to her because here is a skater who can Skate beautifully and also land quads. It’s really great to see. I don’t have issue with her getting huge scores in comparison to the others. It would be sad to see her win and retire but really skating wise what a great potential champion.
@SummerYu0625 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought. I agree she has technical flaws. But nevertheless, I really enjoy her skating. My only wish is she can skate for more seasons and work with different choreographers.
@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын
The judge from Azerbaijan gave her 10 for every component in the fs except for Transitions, for which he gave her 9.75. Azerbaijan is a former Soviet state with strong ties to Russia.
@Trenton.D 2 жыл бұрын
Then what was the point of getting rid of the old system if they’re just going to treat the scores like ordinals…
@insi4547 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanperilstein5308 apart from that, a judge from Belgium gave her 10 for Performance in FP. In SP the only judge to give her 10 was the American judge - 10 for performance. But I''m sure there is an explanation for that too :D :D
@Ian.D. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trenton.D Once-every-4-year fans will be more willing to watch an event where world records will be broken, especially in North America where the sport is not popular any more and with only one gold medal chance out of the 5 disciplines. Also, let's not pretend this is the first time overscoring is happening in an Olympic year because I remember it being a thing since 2006. Landing three quads and a triple axel will sure as hell land you some 10s in PCS and a steak of 6.0s under the old system.
@sschimel 2 жыл бұрын
No Grand Prix Final preview next week (this week?) as it's been canceled
@shelbykite5772 2 жыл бұрын
Karen Chen should have been on the list of choreographers
@lauraa9600 2 жыл бұрын
Her "on golden pond" is/was stunning!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
She is great!
@skatfan 2 жыл бұрын
Omg starting of with the lists of choreographers and the ice cream 😅🤣😂
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@nolancarney2728 2 жыл бұрын
The BEST!! cannot wait to watch 💗💗
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@kennydreadfuls861 2 жыл бұрын
Omg the list is sending me!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@emilysirko2989 2 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to say how much i truly love your guys’s show and how much solace and sense of community it brings!!! thank you both so much for doing this, and for being such vibrant and truly beautiful fun passionate ppl❤️❤️❤️!!!!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын
I think I got all of the important time stamps! Sorry it took so long to complete.
@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 жыл бұрын
When you brought out the lists 😂❤️
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, Dave keeps mentioning the bunnies. I follow Mariah, but must've skipped a few days. Anyone tell me, WTH happened to the bunnies?
@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын
I truly believe that there are many 8 year olds out there who can choreograph better than Danny G.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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@snezhanagorelova9008 2 жыл бұрын
About comparing Roman and Nam chances. At the last Gran prix when Nam participated he was just daying during the program - yes, he made some jumps but after that he did not have any speed, he just stopped at some moment and it was just hard to watch him. if Roman dont make any of the jumps there is still some program and he doesn't loose speed and there is still some presentation.
@user-jy8zb2wc8l 2 жыл бұрын
On the intro: tbf I think we're all subject to cultural bias on some level, whether it is cultural influence from different eras of skating where particular styles/trends dominated or having exposure to certain media narratives, in our own formative periods of watching skating (before we learn to individuate with our own opinions)! I think it's a lot easier to see artistic preferences as cultural when you're outside of the culture than in. ETA as I'm still watching: The Sambo 70 situation perfectly summarised in that pyramid. Oh no, Dave you now have put it into my head that even if Liza wins, Eteri still wins if they don't have a reason to change the age. Also: Mark's commentary on the prerotations were excellent. Who is landing the most ratified quads in the senior ladies on record now - is it Valieva? I have a soft spot for Kazuki Tomono since his Chroma program, he's really bringing it with his performances this season!!
@zb6070 2 жыл бұрын
Any word since this video was uploaded if the GPF will still happen given the new covid situation in the last 72 hours or if some countries will let people travel to GPF?
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
A final decision is supposed to be made tomorrow.
@zb6070 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson kinda crazy how fast everything changed from the making of this video till now.
@littlebachmonster 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Beyer your handwriting is so beautiful!!!
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@thewaitisogre 2 жыл бұрын
why are people mad that H/D and C/B have been neck and neck for years? i think it makes ice dance exciting. even the smaller US teams like H/B and G/P have a fun rivalry.
@Latika491 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, your hatred to Eteri and her team is boundless.
@markyfromcampitchyivy9621 2 жыл бұрын
Any news on Andrew Torgashev? He withdrew from both qualifying events for US Nationals.
@dianasky8975 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite moments: when Dave said SWAY/Han 🤩 and the lists of choreographers 🤣🤣🤣
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
@WOWitsANT 2 жыл бұрын
Mariah should have kept that Britney short! Performing that at the Olympics would be a moment. Especially with everyone behind the whole Britney movement.
@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын
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