This and That: 2022 Russian Figure Skating Championships (Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva)

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This week, a blood bath went down at the 2022 Russian Figure Skating Championships. Eteri Tutberidze came to dominate the event, yet the crowd booed the scoring of Diana Davis and Gleb Smolkin and was on the side of Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. While Kamila Valieva, Alexandra Trusova and Anna Shcherbakova may be the Olympic Team, was it too much for the public to stomach? Tamara Moskvina's teams of Mishina and Galliamov and Boikova and Kozlovskii defeated Tarasova and Morozov and raised new questions about Russia's strategic in the team event at the 2022 Olympic Games. What about Mikhail Kolyada and Mark Kondratiuk? And is Adelia Petrosyan the future of Team Tutberidze? Why was Sofia Muravieva's score lowered? We break it all down and more of the latest edition of 'This and That.
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@iamdee2615 2 жыл бұрын

Elizabeta Tuktamysheva has my respect, We had this New Russian Younger skaters who did incredible jumps but Elizabeta when she skates, hands up! She’s amazing!

@lukestuff2546 2 жыл бұрын

Sergei jumping after Sasha landed a jump is the best part of the entire competition

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@rahelhorvat1471 2 жыл бұрын

he is hilarious, always jumps when the girls land jumps, I guess it's cause he teaches them how to jump.

@andreagoldstein4070 2 жыл бұрын

He's the only member of Team Tut that doesn't make me roll my eyes. He seems genuinely invested in his skaters.

@untitled4687 2 жыл бұрын

it was giving orser energy lol

@vanessafreitas1000 2 жыл бұрын

When I saw Sergei jumping I remember when Luke Skywalker says to Darth Vader there is still good in him. Although in this situation Eteri would play the role of Darth Vader.

@nikolaykozma4799 2 жыл бұрын

Although I respect everyones views on Liza I think the real travesty is that Anna took 3rd place away from Adelia or Sofya S. (Particularly Samodelkina). Crazy that a girl who had two clean skates with a triple axel and 3 quads is beaten by someone who fell on one quad and just managed to land her triples. I mean I get she's a junior but credit needs to be given....

@jamesyu5212 2 жыл бұрын

Samodelkina had so many carrots.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

Even with that carrots Samo still above Anna's BV. But with junior there's no way Rusfed will give her more than the WC and 3x Rusnats. It's unfair but some can still be reasoned regardless of the quality given on ice. I'm actually more angry over Muravieva scoring less than Anna

@queenredspecial 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesyu5212 What are carrots?

@jamesyu5212 2 жыл бұрын

@@queenredspecial underrotations

@SuperLara007 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I love how Ted doesn't make a sound during the performance. Like when you're watching a movie, you don't want anyone explaining anything, you want to immerse yourself and that's it, you don't want anyone's input in your experience. He does it after, during the reviews which is how it should be.

@dollimelaine 2 жыл бұрын

totally agree!

@fw7103 2 жыл бұрын

The taping on Anna’s knee looked heavy, gnarly and painful. Pretty evident to me that she was injured. I’ve heard rumours from friends in St. Petersburg that she was injured during the second day of practice here, and was jumping 3 quads in run throughs until the injury, which explains the “I’m in good shape” comments and then the “I will not comment on how many quads” and “it depends on the form” comments. I just hope she wasn’t in too much pain skating, although it certainly looked otherwise. Kamila - unstoppable in practice and competition. Sasha - apparently there or there abouts the whole time, as usual, although she managed to deliver in the free. Liza - I’m so heartbroken for her😭😭😭

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

Ok that explains it actually. I thought Anna will be coming with at least 2 quads so bit surprised that she did 1 attempt. If she injured herself during practice session then good to take precaution

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s too bad, she had declined but she did look especially poor at this event so that would make sense. Thanks for the info.

@SuperLara007 2 жыл бұрын

She has had those tapes on her knees many times already, it's a result of her pre-jump technique, punching the full blade down with full force in a pre-rotation position, it puts all the pressure on her knees; unless she changes her technique she'll keep having to put these tapes mid-season every year. I don't know about this time but they don't necessarily mean an actual injury, they're just to relieve tension and pressure on muscles and joints; right before worlds, she competed with both knees like this and landed two quads, so there's definitely something off this time, and as they usually do, they don't disclose injuries unless they really have to. Like during nationals she was breathing salt and everybody was wondering why, also after withdrawing from a grand prix, they said it was pneumonia but this week Eteri let slip that Anna had covid complications... something nobody knew she even had...

@nycgtl88 2 жыл бұрын

Anna had a bad SP1 and changed last minute to SP2 which was good but not great. Injuries this season not allowing full training, and no she did not recycle programs otherwise id say re do Perfume and keep Forgiveness, TT did not set up an Olympic package thats the real issue. We know Anna fights but all these not on her favor was expected to not win. Lets hope she recovers to make up in Euros and Olympics. Proud for Sascha, as expected over rated Kamila (love her axel though), but also shows the crappy system we have in skating where nothing is judged technically as textbook but biased.

@holiday_jeeneewoo47 2 жыл бұрын

Alexandra Trusova just pulls you in! I dont care what people say about her but she gives a very strong energy.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

She does!

@10skyblue 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, love her. She is so daring and captivating👍

@katg8924 2 жыл бұрын

I hope all of the Tutberidze girls make it through this season without any further injuries, but I also really want Tuktamysheva on the Olympic team…

@HT-zk8jh 2 жыл бұрын

My highlight was actually Sofia Samodelkina. And Sasha. Trusova has this stubborn maximalist energy when it comes to the athletic part of skating. Adrenalin rush that you do not get from other skaters, which is why people myself included root for her with the flaws in choreo, artistry and inconsistencies. To me, this makes it what it is, a sport. It may be non-perfect but is guaranteed to be exciting and not boring. She is also does not have this “good girl”cheesiness or diva syndrome that many Tut girls have, and seems to have 0 interest in media attention overall.

@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын

I also but can’t help but rooting for Trusova despite her lack of actual skating ability and artistry. She just has this energy about her. She’s going to do the maximum she can athletically no matter what anyone says. She definitely seems to be an independent thinker and has personality. She never seems to be overly upset when she falls. She just goes harder next time. She actually really needed a coach to tell her when enough is enough because this injury may have been avoided. She’s under rotating now, which may improve or not, but I still can’t help but root for her. She’s the opposite of Anna, who at this point just comes across as a pathetic little good girl not understanding that what has happened to her was inevitable and she’s about to be tossed aside like yesterday’s trash. It’s very hard to watch.

@robertjames1087 2 жыл бұрын

@@amethyst5512 I absolutely agree, Sasha has an awesome personality!!

@QQ-wl6yt 2 жыл бұрын

Samodelkina is by far the most interesting and with the highest potential of the current juniors (the only one who doesn’t skate like a little kid) - but the version of Habanera is a travesty... it’s like a lounge version of some gimmick starbucks cd trend from 20 years ago, by the time the music changes, the boring backbeat has been going on for some three minutes that feel like thirty; can’t imagine how depressing that program must be if she’d skate it with even one mistake

@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 2 жыл бұрын

@@QQ-wl6yt her music is terrible

@Plaspos 2 жыл бұрын

@@QQ-wl6yt Samodelkina is my favorite but her potential is equal to Akatieva and Muravyeva and zhilina and even Petrosyan they all have multiple ultra-c elements and good skating otherwise

@kak7440 2 жыл бұрын

Have been waiting for this- can't wait to hear what you made of the ladies and ice dancing!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

@alvinachamberland1045 2 жыл бұрын

It's an insanity that Tuktamysheva's second triple axel was called as an underrotation while none of Trusova's or Scheherbakova's jumps were called as underrotated... how?

@viktoria8189 2 жыл бұрын

Trusova was called for edges and underrotation, maybe check protocols before writing. It's Anna who they always turn blind eye on. Sasha always got the lowest goes and most calls from Eteri's girls...

@EVA-sw8wo 2 жыл бұрын

Trusova's 4lz3t was called under as well as she received two edge calls

@alvinachamberland1045 2 жыл бұрын

@@viktoria8189 I both checked and doublechecked, she was called for one Q, no underrotations, and the q was on the triple toeloop, none of the quads... Liza however was called UR...

@LiliyaUgay 2 жыл бұрын

@@viktoria8189 it was just ! , not an actual edge call, which she should have gotten and was getting when with Plushenko. And only q, not an actual >

@marinav.4440 2 жыл бұрын

Corruption among the judges.

@gracej4306 2 жыл бұрын

Muravieva's triple axel looked effortless. I kept thinking it was a double

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a 2A because of short preparation, but I noticed the rotation and it didn't look like a 2A.

@lez4083 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like we could sort of justify annas scores if this was a euros or random competition. But when there’s 4 other girls doing quads and 3a theres no way you can even think of giving her those scores! Both Sofias were incredibly robbed and deserved to be on that podium, waiting for a Evgeni and Yana comment!

@user-ls8pu9oz5y 2 жыл бұрын

Может дело в том, что можно делать четверные с ошибками, а можно чисто каскады из тройных. Анна бесспорно заслуживает медали, а Муравьевой удачи в будущих соревнованиях.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, both Sofias were underscored esp Samodelkina Who skated early and they gave her 76 with a clean short program with a triple axel and excellent skating and presentation. Sasha was like 74 or something with fall on her Axel and the usual PCS. I don’t know if Sofia M could’ve made it to podium because her free isn’t as high in technical BV but we saw what they did to her scores… and Samo truly should have been..

@user-yp9gq7oz6q 2 жыл бұрын

Взгляд Плющенко после проката Аделии этим надо наслождаться

@adshille8987 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ls8pu9oz5y да-да, все дело именно в чистоте, а не в шампиньонах, не в шиитаке, не в вешенках, и даже не в обабках.

@iris7484 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Ted isn't on the pyramid for his performance this week.

@alexac3098 2 жыл бұрын

Haaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

@natalievangilder4688 2 жыл бұрын

When Ted called Kami the national champion before she even got of the ice lol. Like we all knew it would turn out that way but to hear Ted low-key confirm it was rigged (before the scores were even done) had me CACKLING. Get ur Bag Ted get ur Bag.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhah totally Ted should be on the pyramid! With some extra ice cream bars!

@anneramones2923 2 жыл бұрын

💀

@nell5821 2 жыл бұрын

🤡🤡🤡 3rd place with no quad and a fall while there were other girls that cleanly executed several quads and 3A

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Only in Russia

@biggestgymfan7230 2 жыл бұрын

3 time Russian champ and eteri bonus

@Anne-sv9gc 2 жыл бұрын

I love you two! I cried after Liza's performance b/c she pulled out ALL THE STOPS and entertained the crowd as the oldest girl in the competition. Two triple axels and got people to dance along with her. Come on! She should have been third overall. I'm glad you are still rooting for her and are projecting that positive energy and sass.

@MsWhitelilly 2 жыл бұрын

With failed rotation and no 3-3?

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there’s no way she could’ve been third after that short program. But Sofia Samodelkina on the other hand….

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

not all stop though, I was surprised she did not do 3Lz-3T at the free which she usually did in the past in important competitions. She did 3Lz-2A seq but changed it later to 3Lz-3T in GPF, Rusnats, and WC.

@LiliyaUgay 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou Samodelkina really could be second if judged equally to Trusova. Like Trusova, she performed super difficult LP with three quads, and unlike Trusova she also landed 3A in the short and no falls.

@evamasters5028 2 жыл бұрын

@ Liliya Ugai: perhaps it is time for Davidov/TSKA to say something, stand up to Rus Fed, fight for their skaters and demand equality. Instead they only praise Eteri and take the slaps, happy to offer the other cheek. What do they wait for? Plushenko and Yana to do all the work? TSL to call it out? You can't be a coward and expect to be taken seriously. Even Medvedeva and Tarasova occasionally have the balls to stand to Eteri. Why can't TSKA?

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Timestamps in progress: 0:00 Introduction 0:18 Alina Zagitova referenced 0:43-2:37 Eteri Pyramid (bless) 1:10 Valieva (did her job) 1:31 Petrosyan or Petrosian 1:39 Trusova 1:52 points to Diana Davis (boos in audience, I wonder why? I’m only kidding lol) 2:08 Tarasova and Morozov (3rd), Trankov said it all. Lol 2:18 Shcherbakova (a fighter but very slow, does anybody know if she is injured!??? I saw tape or something on her knee). 2:24 Khromykh (so close but behind Elizaveta in both programs I think). 2:27 Kostornaia 2:37 End of Eteri Pyramid 2:54 female results (I think this implies Russia but not 100% sure, Dave can correct me if I’m wrong). And general comments in nationals 4:19 Medvedeva 4:28 Alina Zagitova 5:49 Trusova briefly mentioned 7:08 and slightly before this time talking about Ted commentating 7:57 Ari Zakarian referenced 8:49 interview with Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva upstaging Zagitova 9:46 Tuktamysheva 11:11 Kamila 12:32 Diana Davis 12:52 Russian Nationals Ice Dance Event (public opinions-outrage). 13:23 Annabelle Morozov mentioned 14:37 Anna Shcherbakova scoring! 14:57 Maiia Khromykh briefly mentioned 15:35 would you send the top three ladies. All three are named for the european team with Elizaveta and Maiia named as alternates. 15:42 Anna has a taped knee 17:16 could Anna be injured and we don’t know? Could it be why she was very slow (watch the free and it was quite evident, I love Anna but it was so slow). 17:35 more on Trusova 18:47 Tiffany Zahorski 19:43 Back to Anna 20:59 Samodelkina 21:05 Petrosian 21:12 Elizaveta 21:30 Trusova PCS 22:13 back to Anna 22:26 Back to Elizaveta and I agree! 23:40 Kostornaia whom Eteri thought should have competed at nationals with the cast on. Medvedeva did it. 23:55 Eteri Interview 24:10 back to Tuktamysheva, wasn’t as upset with the scores. 24:22 Muravieva, point 24:53 is this end for Elizaveta? 26:17 Loena Hendrickx 28:19 Yagudin 30:00 Trusova being a wildcard 30:22 back to Tuktamysheva 31:13 ice cream 31:38 back to Petrosian 35:26 back to Kostornaia 36:31 Maiia briefly mentioned. Danny G hair 37:18 Jesus Christ Superstar 37:27 Mark Kondratiuk 39:46 Moving onto the Mens event 39:49 Eteri says men are weak 1:38:24 End of the Video

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@anthony7136 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын

Please bookmark the Danny G & his new hair comment!! I literally cried!!

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

@@msmo2060 I’ll do my best!! Thanks for the recommendation! I haven’t gotten to that yet. Sounds hilarious

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

TY!!

@DeepSeas.. 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure what’s going on with Anna but she demonstrated some of the worst skating skills I’ve ever seen on the senior circuit during that free skate. She was fighting as hard as she could to generate any speed whatsoever. I usually don’t care about skating skills unless I’m watching two skaters side by side, but it really detracted from the programs and even made me worry that she wouldn’t get enough speed to get any of her jumps around.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@hannibaljustincase9985 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, and I'm actually a big fan of Anna lol, she looked even worse than at last year's nationals after pneumonia

@worldpeace9522 2 жыл бұрын

She was sick and missed 2-3 weeks training. Coaches spoke to her and let her decide to skate at RN or not. But she is a big fighter and never misses the Russian Nationals. And she tried and did her best.

@celiareed1402 2 жыл бұрын

She looks really injured.

@ileana823100 2 жыл бұрын

I am hope i am wrong but the jumpe looked a lot like zhenyas jumps in olympic season were she had unkown to all of us the back inyury

@catherinemcgill3004 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a fan of Trusova but I love the overt darkness of her free skate. I am a huge fan of the Stooges and loved hearing this edgy, pre-punk masterpiece of distorted guitar work in the context of figure skating! The lyrics, mixed with her raunchy packaging, made her come off as a Dominatrix. Such a contrast to the balletic girls in flowy dresses!

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

You can tell that she actually picked and likes this music to skate to. The other Eteri girls music were picked for them. Like are we supposed to belive that Kamilla actually likes Bolero.

@andreagoldstein4070 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's actually a cover from the Cruella soundtrack but it captures the energy of the original song. I'm sure her love of all things canine made Sasha pick the Cruella soundtrack. I just want to see more choreo.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I just want to say I love this comment 😁

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

AND the replies!

@SuperLara007 2 жыл бұрын

I love how she made this artistry. She receives constant criticism that she doesn't have artistry because she's not balletic, feminine, and fragile, so she tried it last season and people were still not having it, then she came with punk rock all in black, red lipstick, heavy eyeliner and said you know what then here's this artistry for you.

@jamesyu5212 2 жыл бұрын

Diana Davies with the silver medal was the most unexpected result of the event…. Said no one ever.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@TheReneex 2 жыл бұрын

Diana Davies is so overrated and that smug and dour look which was captured upon her face. As the cameras zoomed in, when Lisa, Sasha and even Scherbakova's performances were being recapped, spoke volumes!

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

It is only a surprise if you have not been listening to TSL the past 6 months!

@worldpeace9522 2 жыл бұрын

Diana and Gleb deserved their silver medal.

@celiareed1402 2 жыл бұрын

Diana skated at least half her program on both feet. Still no edges.

@justynazokiewska8223 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I needed to close my week exactly. Lot's of love and thank you both

@pwetty4r4 2 жыл бұрын

I really don't mind Trusova's jump drill, that chaotic guitar music, the NOW I WANNA BE A DAWGG, So epic haha I always get so into it

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It is great music for her!

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

It is the only Sambo 70 program I enjoyed this year. It is just so nutty and FUN.

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

Atleast it's different who would of thought that we would hear Iggy Pop in a competitive skating program. These skaters need to skate to more rock music that's not Queen, Muse or Coldplay.

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

@@iamsoverybored878 It actually suits Trusova and matches her skating, which is rare in Team Eteri, where they cram their skaters into pre-picked out music! I love Muse, but they've written other stuff great for skating besides Exogenisis. That needs to stop.

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 I don't mind Muse I actually have two of there albums. There's just way more music out there then what these skaters always skate to. Like instead of the same Queen songs why don't we hear more Bowie. Songs like Heroes or Life on Mars? would be great to skate to.

@carolinaperez8182 2 жыл бұрын

Las cuentas daban a Sasha cómo.3a.máximo,pero ella es resiliente y logró 2o. Lugar y cambió los planes ahora es entre Anna y Yelizaveta Serguéyevna, ahora si hay reglas,sigo deseando lo mejor a Trusova

@Tara_5650 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been so so excited for this! Thank you so much!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you like it!

@ddjr6673 2 жыл бұрын

This is the Holiday present I have been waiting for. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

@selenity08 2 жыл бұрын

I could not wait for your opinion when I saw the Russian National results. I also loved your Eteri pyramid impersonation, this is what I signed up for

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@waveythree 2 жыл бұрын

Tuktamysheva is the only one of the top Russian women who jumps clean, actually takes off from the toe pick without pre-rotation. Wish she could be rewarded for that. No judge seems to pick up on this. And she has so much more height and power than Scherbakova.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent jumps!

@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 жыл бұрын

А кто откроет глаза судьям ?

@CaraMarie13 2 жыл бұрын

They pick up on it but if they started judging her jumps as they should then they would have to start calling the Eteri girls for their horrible techniques. Like forget the ridiculously high GOE, they would be lucky to get a positive GOE on many of those jumps to begin with.

@futfolt 2 жыл бұрын

она не имеет cascade 3/3

@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын

@@futfolt so what? She can do multiple 3A’s in a competition. Anna can’t do any quads anymore and her triple triples are becoming under rotated.

@eliz9822 2 жыл бұрын

My moment of the event was Elizaveta’s engagement with the audience in the FS. She was a seductress and had everyone under her spell. Priceless! AAA+++ performance IMO. Electrifying!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@NormaLilia24 2 жыл бұрын

She deserved 3rd place

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@Simmy Samb I don’t disagree with you about Sofias or that we don’t have to have seductions etc… but I don’t think the OP said we must have it, just that they liked it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@MsWhitelilly 2 жыл бұрын

Guys, I watched the event live. Yes, Lisa did a very good performance, it is St Petersburg, her home town and public was supporting her. But you should have noticed no 3-3 and dropped rotation, right?

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Lucky you to be there!! Unfortunately Liza lost most of her chance already in the short I think. But she did bring it on the free performance-wise and her axels. But yeah it wasn’t enough for podium considering the competition

@MsWhitelilly 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou I mean, yes, she is great and with a clean short, there could have been a discussion. But live it is really fun to see this slow moment in the middle of the program - she was definitely resting;) And maybe it was not obvious on television, but Anna’s performance is of different kind.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@MsWhitelilly Oh I personally did notice the slowdown you mention. With some other skaters too. You notice these things much more live indeed. Very interesting about Anna. I do really enjoy her Despite all of her flaws that I can see. I can’t quite put my finger on it so it’s interesting what you say. I wonder what it is about her?

@KG-jg4zn 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou oh I'm also interested in that question!

@MsWhitelilly 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou I saw her live in Grenoble in November and she looked so much stronger. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to me she lost some weight in 2 months and in SPB looked like she was really in pain (tapes on left knee). Anna is +start skater, so her performance was sort of unusual. On 6 min warm up, she had her quads, but she did not looked confident at all.

@lovisa.carlsen 2 жыл бұрын

So proud of Trusova :)))

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын

I love your advice for Liza. It’s exactly how to put the pressure on.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️🙏

@mai3334 2 жыл бұрын

Anna’s flying camel has traveled more than I have in two years.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@twinklejelly123 2 жыл бұрын

Her spins always were prone to wander a bit

@annemary9680 2 жыл бұрын

Bruuuhhhh 😂

@hannibaljustincase9985 2 жыл бұрын

well you don't understand it you American! the genius of Dannil G made her flying camel spin actually FLY at least the distance from Moscow to St Petersburg as a metaphor of struggles of being a high profile athlete!!!!!!

@kristenjunker1632 2 жыл бұрын

Your prediction about the wheels coming off the Team Tutb bus... your investigative journalism sense was more correct than any of us ever imagined.

@lenavinogradova950 2 жыл бұрын

There is a rumor that Tutberidze wants Muravieva. I hope 🤞 she doesn't get her though. Plushenko and team have been working on Muravieva for a few years now and have turned her into a really good skater.

@futfolt 2 жыл бұрын

очередной наброс

@tomybestself908 2 жыл бұрын

Oh lol. Sounds like Rudkovskaya's troll

@lenavinogradova950 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomybestself908 Yes, sure waiting for that cheque from Yana lol

@HalsLWWY 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t Muravieva with Eteri awhile back but was kicked out?

@lez4083 2 жыл бұрын

@@HalsLWWY not sure if you’re thinking about Sofia Titova cus she gave an interview about that a couple weeks ago. Not sure about Muraviova tho!

@VikVard 2 жыл бұрын

Gentlemen, I truly appreciate the job you are doing and totally understand the concept of the show. At the end of the day it is extra penny and dime for the figure skating promotion around the world anyways. Could you let me drop a thought over here so someone might catch an idea and spread a word. I am Russian, from Chelyabinsk, big, cold and very provincial, industrial city in the mountains. The woman figure skating in the place is huge! And this is truly sad to see all these talents going literally nowhere! The quantity of the great skaters in the country is enormous huge. By the quality Russian Nationals is not just bigger than the Olympics, it is simply another planet. My heart is falling apart of watching all those young girls fighting for the 3 spots only! God damn 3... and all thar hysterical trash around this fight. If we send 10 ladies in Beijing there is a very possible chance that 6-8 of them will be in top 10. And this is the only top of the iceberg. There are 100s of extremely good kids around the country, they just never got lucky to be caught by the famous trainer, who are concentrated in Moscow and St.Pete only. We need a league here, I would say open league. With all the foreigners willing to reach invited. For the grace of this sport, the old farts who run Russian figure skating federation at the moment - they can't do shit! And all those hidden stars will never have a chance to even try, because there is not such a place for it. All the competitions in and out of Russia are a simple joke, based on what kinda golden mine we are sitting on here. Please, drop an idea in your show somehow. We are fighting with the windmills here... and the girls are suffering for nothing. Russia has so much to offer to this world in figure skating... if you would now. Thanks again to both of you gents. For the enthusiasm and your dedication.

@zb6070 2 жыл бұрын

@theskatinglesson Do you think a similar situation in women's skating can happen to rhythmic gymnastics, were the judges were like "enough is enough" and grade more realistically? (or like dance elements in artistic gymnastics) and start to call out all flutz and PCS and prerotations

@MsWhitelilly 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, if ISU will constantly lower standard. Do you know that is gymnastics there are half of mandatory elements now and that grading system actually punish for risk? So ISU can say, no quadruple jumps for women. Then you will get your chance;)

@sschimel 2 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else notice a heart beat in the audio in the kiss & cry? It drove me crazy.

@phanphuc1929 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, Sofia muravieva is a good substitute for a Kostornaia-like skater. She has genuine jumping skills and skating edges that are deep and defined. Can’t wait for what will happen next year

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Sofia M and Sofia Samodelkina both 👍 👍👍

@vicserra2485 2 жыл бұрын

What is iteresting is that Muravieva is same age as Valieva and she have been compete since prenovice there are many pics of them, and Valieva has always been ahead of her, literally decens of competitions (even before Valieva with Eteri). I dont think Muravieva really think she can beat Valieva

@user-wr7pe3ng4r 2 жыл бұрын

Kostornaya has a stunning appearance, but this is not so for Muravyova, unfortunately.

@koalapayslater 2 жыл бұрын

@@vicserra2485 well, in novices both of them were weak let's be honest. Kamila couldn't jump triples and mostly benefited off spins bonuses. Sofia was always an underdog because she was struggling with her huge 3Lz for years. Both of them are rising now. If Kamila wins Olys now she may have shorter career than Sofia tbh

@vicserra2485 2 жыл бұрын

@@koalapayslater I dont care to have a shorter career if im Olympic champion, 10000000x times better that skate 6 years of irrelevant career. Im talking in general no specific skaters.... btw Kamila herself has said she wants to skate 2-3 years in seniors and then retire, sooo Kamila gonna have a shorter career anyway but because her decision no Zhenya or Alina that the sport force her to quit you know And yep both were weak but Kamila always was in front, same with Daria and Maya sooo is hard to think you cant beat your rival

@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 жыл бұрын

I hate to see Anna with bronze just because it feels like she can literally fall apart during her skate. The judging made everyone mad.

@dorin7775 2 жыл бұрын

Кто по вашему мнению должен был стать третьим?

@biscuitcase83 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorin7775 Liza

@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorin7775 должен- не должен, мне хотелось бы видеть Лизу на Олимпиаде

@dorin7775 2 жыл бұрын

@@biscuitcase83 her base value in free program is 64,35 while Anna's - 73,68. And, unfortunately, Lisa fell off the axel in short program and made a cheap 3-2 cascade (while Anna's short program was done well).

@dorin7775 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-hk4hh9bg6k ну мало ли что вам хотелось, мне вот хотелось, чтобы на Олимпиаду поехали Саша, Аня и Лиза, но это не значит, что мне теперь нужно писать гневные комментарии в сторону Камилы. Аня была сильнее Лизы, учите матчасть и читайте протоколы.

@tofiqzade 2 жыл бұрын

Liza told that whatever happens this season will not affect her, and she decided that she will accept any turn of events and continue enjoying life. Maybe she felt sad, but did not show it, because she is just a cheerful person. I do not wish injuries to any of the girls who made it, I actually believe Anna will go beyond her limits to restore her jumps for the Olympics, and I want Trusova to properly recover. I was expecting the federation to send Liza to the Europeans instead of Trusova for that reason. But then, they would have a risk that if Liza places higher, Anna's Olympic spot might be in danger.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Liza has been very consistent this season overall.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

It still sucks, I hope Liza to go because in the Russian skating environment, she is an anomaly. I love a good comeback and dark horse storyline. Plus I'd love anything to spite Eteri and her plan to sweep the podium with all her girls.

@serbru7662 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson This does not mean that Lisa is better than Anna or Sasha. Anna had an injury at the beginning of the season and she is gaining form later than others. Also, most likely Anna was injured, so such a performance. And if Lisa were higher than Anna in this tournament, it still wouldn't mean anything. In Russia, only the first two figure skaters guarantee themselves the Olympics. The third figure skater will be chosen by the Coaching Council of Russia. Anna will get in shape for the Olympics and she will still be chosen by the coaching council. Even if you like Lisa, you still have to admit that she is weaker than Anna, Sasha and Camilla. That's the whole policy.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

It was so sad her SP, after her being so consistent all season. I think Mishin and her showed sadness after the short, but she is a pro it was very subtle.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@serbru7662 I don’t know what you mean. I don’t even particularly like Liza’s style of skating, but I don’t see it as a given that she is at the moment lesser than Anna. To my eyes at this event that wasn’t obvious at all. I’ve been skating in watching Skating for 35 years. Of course that doesn’t mean I know everything but I don’t think your conclusion that Anna is currently clearly better is obvious

@or5645 2 жыл бұрын

My top moments were booing the judges after Tiffany&Jonathan’s scores, Dudakov jumping after Trusova’s last jump-he is a sweetheart, the broken chin, the stolen point from Muravieva, yes-the toy hitting Eteri, the facepalm Mark Kondratiuk’s coach did when he messed up, and Trankov cursing (he really used the worst words possible in Russian, this was longer than “what are you laughing at”, he seriously has stolen the show in the comments that day, not like he was wrong though😀)

@user-gu7oy1hb3f 2 жыл бұрын

Trankov-- Bich you Fu.. up lift what Fu.. bich fun?

@inocohen5404 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I've noticed Dudakov too! Teddy-bear!

@CaraMarie13 2 жыл бұрын

Like how naive of me. After Anna's performance i thought, "she'd be lucky to end forth". Obviously, i should have known better.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣💯

@alexac3098 2 жыл бұрын

She should have been 5th or 6th.

@snowangel7980 2 жыл бұрын

this is the last thing of/about figure skating i'll probably watch until Eteri is gone. Her comments about Kosto and Alina and Zhenya, this insane judging, her extreme political influence... its just not fun to watch anymore.

@vanessafreitas1000 2 жыл бұрын

I love when Jonathan says “fascinating”, “interesting”, “intriguing” and “I know” 😀

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

It sounded sophisticated from his mouth, like high society lol

@topicdel 2 жыл бұрын

The Olympic favorite has so much to do with if you were born in the right year....I feel like Anna/Aliona/Sasha were Oly gold ready two years ago (I hope Sasha can still pull it off though), and the 14 year old Juniors will be ready in 1-2 years, but will likely not last until 2026....and Kamila's development has peaked in the perfect year. It makes it all seem like such a crap shoot in a sense. I hope you are right about Elizaveta still having a chance!! Fingers crossed!

@natalievangilder4688 2 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking how Eteri should just start picking and training girls who turn 15 on Olympic years. That's what they prioritize anyway!

@serbru7662 2 жыл бұрын

@@natalievangilder4688 I've never understood how can distort the facts so much ? Do they teach this at school ? Trusova is 17 years old. Shcherbakova is 17 years old. Kostornaya is 18 years old. Valieva is 15 years old. Only one girl out of four is 15 years old !!! Camilla is now at the peak of her form and her age has nothing to do with it. Anna had an injury at the beginning of the season and she is gaining form later than others. Perhaps she still has injuries. Sasha also had an injury. Age doesn't matter here. They all have a task to reach the peak of form for the Olympics. And then we'll see who wins.

@natalievangilder4688 2 жыл бұрын

@@serbru7662 Yes Eteri has skaters over 15 and yes she has done quite well with them, but I still find it disconcerting if her skaters continue to have major injuries or retirement or change of coach usually around age 17-19. again the aggression bro please it is a sport we are allowed to have disagreeing opinions and clearly we do. But you don’t need to go for character assassination when the statistics are there for interpretation, whether you view them in or out of favor. take a chill pill 💊

@serbru7662 2 жыл бұрын

@@natalievangilder4688 Nice. At what age did Tara Lipinski finish her career ? Sarah Hughes ? Yes, you can have your opinion. But distortion of facts is not an opinion, it is a distortion of facts.

@treelo11 2 жыл бұрын

@@natalievangilder4688 No she needs girls of all ages. The ones slightly older than the qualification age act as seat warmers so the Eteri reputation builds up year after year.

@TheReneex 2 жыл бұрын

I am always perusing to find your latest videos and couldn't wait for your commentary. On the most anticipated competition before the 2022 Olympics; the Russian Nationals. Well as to be expected, the top three ladies of Eteri Tutberidze's camp. Valieva, Trusova and Scherbakova ended up receiving the top three ordinals, going into the European Championship. Honestly, Scherbakova was scored to high and i am saddended that Kostornaya was absent from this event. would have been quite imoressive to see the third member of Three A competing against Valieva, the most consistent skater of the Eteri camp.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@user-yi8rt5zq9e 2 жыл бұрын

Alyona injured her hand She will stay for another four years, we will be able yo enjoy het skating

@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-yi8rt5zq9e She has absolutely no chance! She didn't have it last season and not even this season, and next season will be even tougher. How can you possibly imagine that? With what content? WIth her 3 lutz 2 toe combination??

@user-yi8rt5zq9e 2 жыл бұрын

@@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 Why does her couch want her to stay?They might know better Lets wait and see Her way of skating is the best one That is for sure

@NormaLilia24 2 жыл бұрын

Omg thank you for uploading and saving me from a long boring layover!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@sonne167 2 жыл бұрын

Alina had a proper Christmas cardigan and a more casual look during the second day. As someone who is always very nervous around people, I can feel her very well.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it makes me sad people calling her bitchy etc when it is clear to me she is more of an introvert or something maybe social anxiety. When I see her in Japan, she almost seems more comfortable than in Russia. I’m just guessing it could be because less exuberance is expected in social relationships there it might suit her personality better.

@pablogutierrez4817 2 жыл бұрын

The best part of this show was the Shin Amano part. He made Japanese Nationals so great. He is harsh and isn’t intimidated by stardom or bribing. He sees a cheated jump and he attacks equally.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

I love his calls.

@anettep6678 2 жыл бұрын

I sooo want him to call the women in Beijing (not gonna happen unless hell freezes over though). Save us, Shin Amano, you are our only hope. 😂

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

I heard his name many times, can you give us example competition segments where he became tech caller? I'd like to see his call and whether he was indeed strict and fair.

@leratomonethi4265 2 жыл бұрын

@@yohanes2034 Check Japanese nationals

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

@@leratomonethi4265 Japanese Nationals this year? women or men events? No edge calls for women though, cause I'd know Kaori or Wakaba didn't get their usual calls

@mantile6796 2 жыл бұрын

A thing I noticed about Mark is that people seem to be behind him. Crowds surprised me all season how exited they are for him. In the gala other commentator called Mark trankovs favourite and he agreed. Also I seem to have noticed that even Misha acts different towards him. I think what differentiates him is that he is artist first and skater second. This gold medal was a big surprise even for a fan of Mark. P.s. Sorry if it doesn't make sense its like 2am

@dariakukhar1595 2 жыл бұрын

Mark was an eye opener in the last year's competition between Alina and Zhenya's teams. He was like a gulp of fresh air, very different from the traditional male Russian classic FS school. Very humble but open and funny, he surprised the crowd by delivering clean Quads last year. Then followed few competitions where he wasn't very good, but he was the one to get the 3rd spot for the Russian team heading to OG. So people have a lot to cheer him for, and call him our 'underground'. A bit like Kosta in my view, but more authentic.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been living on Russian time. I woke up at 2 AM and no RusNats anymore lol… you made sense to me! The men’s were kind of a hot mess and though his program never quite came together 100% for me, Mark made the best of it. Congrats! Hopefully Kolyada gets his focus together and glad he brought back the free program rather than Schindlers list.

@ideas_inkwell 2 жыл бұрын

@@dariakukhar1595 He is a literal visual artist.

@dariakukhar1595 2 жыл бұрын

@@ideas_inkwell I believe he is a real artist, he paints, goes to museums and exhibitions, a very versatile guy, and still can’t believe he won the gold! He is a bit shy, which in my humble opinion, is not such a great virtue for performance sake, but we have seen his transformations already during Channel 1 competition, so hopefully he will progress further. So far, he looks like a great personality, gifted skater and the rest we will witness later. I enjoy his performance very much

@ideas_inkwell 2 жыл бұрын

I can relate as I am a writer.

@angieortizurena3327 2 жыл бұрын

What really is unbelievable to me is that Shcherbakova never had much spring in her jumps to begin with (that happens when you jump with your upper body strength) but now she also seems painfully slow…and even then she receives HUGE GOEs!

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Timestamps are in progress and I’ll need a couple hours! So sorry for the inconvenience

@singsongeric 2 жыл бұрын

3 random thoughts: - Yes, those never-melting ice-cream burrito things! - I also don't think this is over for Liza, by a long shot. I was strongly getting that "we'll see about this..." vibe from her after the event and yeah she didn't look as upset as I was expecting either. She's experienced enough to know what a farce all of this politicking is and there's a greater than probable chance that 1 or both of Anna/Sasha won't survive Euros. Heck, if poppers couldn't help Anna's LP here, does she really have a chance internationally. - Petrosian intrigues me, both her skating and personality. She was getting scores that she's never seen before and had no business getting, but she looked like she felt she totally deserved them and wasn't even surprised. Future Russian Queen here, I think.

@evemhooper 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you’re right about Liza- I think she’s got good mental (and physical) strength for the next few months!

@funsies7147 2 жыл бұрын

She might be able to prove herself even more at Euros, over Anna if Anna falters again. However, Sasha and Kamila have solidified their positions and they're guaranteed to go, rightfully so.

@jbuda4263 2 жыл бұрын

Anna shouldn’t go abs Liza should. Anna is just not prepared and she’s young. Lots of years ahead.

@skaterboy-cz9wj 2 жыл бұрын

Well even if Liza doesn't go to the Olympics the odds are she will get a chance at worlds. The odds are injury or if one of the Russians wins the olympics someone won't go to the worlds. And all three Olympic selected skaters have some injuries so three of them surviving Euros is questionable. Anna needs to heal.

@jbuda4263 2 жыл бұрын

@@skaterboy-cz9wj I think the ca r that they haven’t selected the Olympic team should tell us something.

@hopeelizabethan 2 жыл бұрын

You speak the truth and I love it! Such a great time listening. Have you considered a live feed after a big event like Russian Nationals or the Olympics? Might be fun 😉👏

@celinevalencia9908 2 жыл бұрын

If I was part of the Team event selection team, I would have: Ladies - Valieva, Trusova They have the tech to blow away each segment. Valieva for SP and Trusova for LP. Trusova just needs to land 1 or 2 quads to maintain their 1st place. Don't do anything more. Men's - Mark I don't trust Kolyada so I'm putting Mark on the spot. He just needs to skate clean and be shenanigans-free. I'm gonna assume his placement would be between 3rd-4th. It's an expected loss. Pairs- M/G They are consistent and they provide a good 1st/2nd place buffer to support the ladies' lead. Ice Dance - SinKats and StepBuk Why the shit would you want D/S on any segment when they could basically sink the team to silver? Anything could happen in the team event. I am not risking a 5th/6th segment placement to appease her mom.

@arthurtheaardvark13 2 жыл бұрын

If they allow Eteri’s daughter to take the place of one of the more deserving ice dance teams during the team event, I will be so freaking mad. There is no way in hell they’d give the team event to Diana in her FIRST SENIOR YEAR, right?!

@dkeinow 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to this! Was that Margarita Mamun co hosting the event?

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It was!

@RED-cy7ig 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that was Margarita Mamun.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Wearing leather pants at some point. I wish I understood what they were saying.

@arlettetrinidad5156 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Been refreshing my notifications for the past hour. 😍 Finally.😊

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@vf9322 2 жыл бұрын

What a noticed with Diana Davis, her partner is a good dancer and their coach taught them well how to disguise Dianas flaws. Almost everything they do is intended to disguise her flaws as something cool. For example, Gleb drags her around, the lifts they do have more about with Gleb's abilities and she let just him throw her in the air (like a corps), but he is doing a lot of work. The twizzels, yes, they are covering that department well, I guess, but, Diana Davis is nowhere near Anabelle Morozov! And finally, she looks sooo cheap 🙈🤦🏻‍♀️ No wonder the audience was outraged by the scores!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Igor teaches everyone how to drag weaker girls so well. it is his speciality...like tangos...

@vf9322 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson oh, I'm new in watching ice dance, so I didn't know that, but I have a background in dancing so I just noticed that today watching them skating. For me it was quite obvious. But well disguised, I have to say. People can be fooled....

@somekindofflower2024 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that Gleb is the better ice dancer and yes, he is the one that covers Diana's mistakes. I don't think they are bad, they are good, but really far from having that presence of ice dancers, far behind Bukin and Stepanova.

@Plaspos 2 жыл бұрын

Annabelle is not really good either, Khudaiberdieva and shevchenko are a lot better

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I keep forgetting his name and call him the guy who carries the pair. And indeed the whole thing has been working around disguising her flaws. I was laughing out what they’ve said about the coach though. The guy who thought Madison C how to skate 😆… so kinda expected I guess.

@alexjwebabou 2 жыл бұрын

fun fact: on the day of the free dance there was ZERO negative comments under Diana/Gleb's video on the 1tv youtube channel! however, they did crawl into the comment section later when the moderator went to sleep.

@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 жыл бұрын

А я думаю почему нету комментариев ?

@pastelamethyststarot4074 2 жыл бұрын

Eteri magic died off *winks*

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhah, they must’ve deleted my comments. After I was brutally attacked for saying I have eyes and such.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

Well that state sponsored channel for you. 😂

@Rosa-ln1uo 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan I agree with you about Kondratiyuk. It was amazing, actually according to telegram channel before Mark’s FS someone from the audience shouted “do it for the art!!” (Давай! За искусство!)

@yeseniagonzalez4610 2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this, can't wait to hear your guys opinions! ☺

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@anettep6678 2 жыл бұрын

I'd send Liza because I don't think Anya will make it to Beijing in one piece, and Sasha still has her "minor injury". I agree, it feels like Eteri flew too close to the sun.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Very minor

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

I think Liza will still go, as either Shcherbakova or Trusova will sadly break down before Feb.

@pgk3052 2 жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 I love Liza, but I am sad that she can only go if either Sasha or Anna crap out. 😞

@alexac3098 2 жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 Truly, the chances of that happening, or of one of them catching Covid before the OG, are *not* that small.

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthildamilito5962 Sure seems that way!

@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah a lot of people in Russia are really mad at Anna's scoring. We are not blind. It's just that we feel we can't do anything about it because the federation doesn't care. I almost feel unpatriotic but I hope there will be an upset at the Olympics and we won't get the whole podium. I feel Kami deserves gold if she is clean or almost clean but hopefully at least the bronze goes somewhere else. It's like they think the viewers are blind or something. They roll out this "competition" for us and then think we won't notice that they have predetermined the results beforehand. At least before we felt an element of uncertainty and competition there. This was just a huge F you to the Russian public. The too close to the sun reference was good. I think we all felt something was off here at these nationals.

@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 жыл бұрын

У нас это называется " чисто хрустальное судейство "

@abp1400 2 жыл бұрын

Who do you think are best 3 women FS in Russia?

@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cq3lg3nl2k на это было так грустно смотреть

@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 жыл бұрын

@@abp1400 In terms of who are age-qualified to go to olympics: Kamila one, Liza two and Trusova three.

@laudese 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if the judges were trying to avoid having to “Ashley Wagner” someone to the Olympics by giving some inflated scores during the competition. Both ways of getting skaters to the OG are controversial but maybe they didn’t want the extra work/time that it would have taken to look at all the bodies of work over the past season?

@niche_interest 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the video! But I feel that Jonathan is often interrupted and I would like to hear what he has to say as well! ;)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

I apologize

@anthony7136 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson understandable; I know both of you have a lot of thoughts and things to say. Thanks tho!

@SuperLara007 2 жыл бұрын

I'm abroad this Christmas so I was basically alone, I just sat on my pj's to watch the nationals in my room, and once it was done - after I just sat there starring at the screen speechless for good 10 minutes - I just thought I'm glad I was alone this Christmas because no way in hell I would be able to explain to anyone what is happening with me right now and all I just went through.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@PoppenAtelier 2 жыл бұрын

So ready for this episode and for the tea after all the mess at the Russian Nationals :-D Love your channel!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@LeuchTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын

Ooh!!! I've never thought I would find Poppen here!!! Love you!! ❤

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh heyyyy, lovely crossover indeed! ❤️⛸❤️🤓

@PoppenAtelier 2 жыл бұрын

@@LeuchTheFirst hiiiii! I'm a huge FS fan all my life! I even remember watching live on tv Oksana Baiul winning the 1994 Olympics and then playing it all for days with my Barbies :D

@PoppenAtelier 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou heyyyy! ❤️

@coletterobichaud3465 2 жыл бұрын

What stood out to me was how pre-programmed Ted‘s commentary was. Listen to him before D/S skate their RD and after Jonathan and Tiffany skate. „You may think you’re seeing things, but you’re not the experts, they see things you don’t“, „you might not always agree with the scores, but you’re not the experts“. It was very obvious he was told what to say and when. He was also downplaying muravieva in the LP, much more than in the SP. It felt like he was trying to manipulate our perception of what we were seeing.

@andreagoldstein4070 2 жыл бұрын

Gaslighting at it's worst.

@theatorrisi9695 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I didn't feel that at all

@twinklejelly123 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was much less subtle this year than previously, which is sad because it's putting me off Ted and I have always enjoyed him on the junior gp.

@VanjaKel 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, heard it, thought the very same thing. Don't forget, "all of the ice dancers in this final group are at the same level".

@LexyMay93 2 жыл бұрын

Agree! Ted was always quite nice to listen to at the Junior events but his bias here got me really annoyed with him.

@o_valencia3038 2 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for this! I also got a noise complaint from all the screaming I had due to the Russian and Japanese championships.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!!!! Are you serious about the noise complaint?! I love it!

@julienixon2686 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff guys. Thank you. I am still sad Kostornaia will not be at the Olympics.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️🙏🥲

@Chastaken 2 жыл бұрын

Pairs event was the best event! Finally B/K skated clean and M/G breaking the curse. I'm sad for P/K, I think they deserve the spot much more than T/M. And happy that chaotic Mark won. Misha is still the number one. Sad for Dima, he is one of the most talented Russian men but I think he is injured, he can do better.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I still think T/M deserve the spot. Yes they can never skate clean but when they do skate both programs clean they are the best Russian pair. Their technique on everything is perfect, they have perfect lines, and everything looks clean and polished. P/K are yet to have that classy polished look that T/M have. Everything they do although being very difficult, is messy and disorganised at times. I suggest you go watch T/M sp at the Olympics and you will see why they are the best Russian pair when they skate cleanly

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Pairs was very exciting!

@mkp158 2 жыл бұрын

We are all sad for Dima. It appears that he isn't just injured. He is also suffering from covid consequences both on psychological and physical levels. Hopefully, he will overcome it. However, my personal perception is that he is ✔checked out.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 when did they skate both programs clean though? I literally cannot remember the last time that happened. Chaotic mark made the best of the messy man’s indeed. I’m glad Kolyada brought back that free program. I wish he didn’t struggle so much with the jumps as I like his skating a lot. B/K had a very Olympic and very Russian free and they were my fave at this event.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou never, but they skated the SP at the Olympic team event and the pairs event clean scoring an 82 and 81 so they can skate clean…… sometimes

@madeliner2021 2 жыл бұрын

I really don’t see all three girls staying in one piece long enough to make it to Beijing…

@Patrick-vj1qu 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the upload, can’t wait to watch!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@aleksandrapaka6267 2 жыл бұрын

Medvedeva and Trankov: "lets wear christmas sweaters and don't tell Zagitova" 😂

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Yagudin was wearing one too.

@helenluo5112 2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys think that this will force Eteri to really push the injured Kostornaia to compete anyway, and make a last ditch attempt to get onto the Olympic team in case Anna or Sasha get tanked?

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It is too late.

@alexac3098 2 жыл бұрын

Liza and Maiia are the alternates for Euros, they'll be the alternates for the Olympics too.

@krisfujimoto72 2 жыл бұрын

The women's division looked rigged or set up. Discrepancy in scores.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@musawasichelwa1321 2 жыл бұрын

It made no sense...a non eteri skater did a sketchy combo and got negative geo an eteri girl did a stechy combo and got +1.5 geo I was like tf Is going on here

@syd1764 2 жыл бұрын

I love kami but there is no way in hell that the score gap between her and sasha should've been that big. no way

@norinecook844 2 жыл бұрын

So excited for the commentary guys! 💙

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@candyc3314 2 жыл бұрын

I literally had to calm down after watching rus nats. It was so intense and such a roller coaster ride.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@cheemengsee490 2 жыл бұрын

Amongst the Russian men, Gleb Lutfullin (one of Mishin's student) stood out to me with his beautiful carriage and in my opinion, resemblance to Dennis Ten. Hope to see more of him in the years to come. Mark, the winner, has great power but rather scary looking jump technique.

@mkp158 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Yagudin also was amazed with Gleb's technique...

@keira.samons5804 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about Bolero, but I think Kamila's SP is quite breathtaking and well choreographed from a musical perspective.

@RED-cy7ig 2 жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to Tuktamysheva. Even if she had a quad they would not send her to the Olympics. She took a seat on the ice in the s/p. That gives the federation the excuse not to send her. Her free skate was phenomenal. The out right cheating was so predictable. I missed Kostornaia. We didn't see any face stickers, a jacket thrown at Eteri or a water bottle thrown in Dani G's direction. The ice dancing was criminal. I felt for Zagorski/Guerreiro as their score were being booed. The audience was not fooled like the judges. They saw the same thing that the viewers saw. Somebody bought their daughter and her partner a trip to the Olympics.

@CelesteBou 2 жыл бұрын

Anna Shcherbakova cannot land neither a quad or a 3A now, she has weak PCs and spins, but they still bought her a spot. I'm bummed for Liza, and for Dai Takahashi and Kana who were also robbed of a spot in Japan. This sport is demoralizing to watch

@RED-cy7ig 2 жыл бұрын

@@CelesteBou Agree. I think she is so badly injured. It's a question mark if she can be healthy enough to make the Olympics. She has been over scored all season.

@kamila7217 2 жыл бұрын

You're right about the medal threat for bronze Dave. People forget but the season where Zagitova was a mess until Worlds, they had to tank Kaori on the GP to protect her spot. Kaori's been around all quad, made it to the GPF, and she's one of the few skaters the Japanese fed chooses to protect. And judges give her GOE and solid PCS even when she makes mistakes. Anna could be in trouble.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Anna seems vulnerable.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

If Anna performs the way she did at these nationals, kaori and even wakaba can beat her. Of course the judges will protect Anna at all cost but when will it become to obvious? They can do whatever they want at nationals but they can’t pull stunts to this extent at the Olympics

@natalievangilder4688 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Well they shouldn't be doing this at the Olympics BUT China is friendly with Russia and the checks may start flowing. I would really love a Kaori or Wakaba medal, finally supporting and rewarding correct technique and skating skills. How I wish we could import the Russian ladies to Japan for some skating skills, or get in Tracy Wilson.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@natalievangilder4688 you’re right but why would the Russian ladies especially eteri girls even bother improving their skating skills when they know as long as they don’t fall on every jump their pcs scores will sky rocket. So sad.

@serbru7662 2 жыл бұрын

@@natalievangilder4688 Darling, 2019 Saitama, Russian ladies were there

@sallyjean2250 2 жыл бұрын

So agree with Dave re the Mishina euler. I thought the same. Looks like she just fell out of the jump. Normally, I prefer them to B/K but I thought B/K were better at Nats.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yep! They weren’t the only ones I thought had those messy step out looking eulers either.

@loc1976 2 жыл бұрын

Prayer circle for Shin Amano at the Women's event in Beijing. Or is it defined yet?

@jekicolin8036 2 жыл бұрын

He won’t be bc of RusFed’s influence

@grisgris6908 2 жыл бұрын

I deeply feel Liza will have a Mykayla Skinner Olympic moment

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Let us pray.

@Sonia94537 2 жыл бұрын

and I am absolutely here for it :-)

@tanyawade4954 2 жыл бұрын

From your lips to the skating gods’ ears….

@AC-co6cp 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@alexac3098 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, can we pin this comment to the top? Because yes.

@shmyshmys 2 жыл бұрын

EXCUSE ME Scherbakova earned her inflated scores by not embarrassing Eteri and going to Plushenko 😅 Medvedeva sneaking herself on the world team over Tuk and her lutz edge conveniently not called so she'd make the bronze over Rika is often forgotten 👀 Manifesting Tuk for Worlds since I assume half of the Eteri girls are gonna be burned out (sadly). I hope Plush and Yana go all in in future seasons, Plush has some good skaters coming up. I'm over Eteri. The enemy of my enemy is my friend etc. ETA - I totally got your red hair Dave

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao, yes she does deserve some bonus for being the only 3A to not detour to Plush! Dave should never put Anna at bottom of pyramid just for that !! 😂

@evamasters5028 2 жыл бұрын

@chienandou: really? My impression is that eteri expects loyalty, but doesn't bother to return in kind. Why should she? She is the queen, the puppeteer, the boss. Madam Cruella. If we look at history, a skater is favored only as long as she wins... I don't recall Zagitova staying in top position of the pyramid or otherwise after that "embarrassing" grand prix... Anna will be shoveled away and called lazy when the time comes. Sadly, probably soon now. The question is if before or after the O.

@olgasmirnova4588 2 жыл бұрын

У Туктамышевой отсутствует хореография и она прыгает лип, плюс в недокруты. Кихира тогда завалила всё, что было можно и нельзя. А Загитову повезли в аэропорт с мигалками, вместо Туктамышевой. Туктамышева должна была ехать на ЧМ, а не Загитова. Медведева своё место на ЧМ подтвердила.

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

I’m willing to give up my third spot in the US ladies so Lizaveta can go to Beijing. Just take Alysa and Lindsay.

@mirymir.6287 2 жыл бұрын

Срочно надо Лизе дать гражданство Америки.

@suzyq0076 2 жыл бұрын

1000% agree. I’ve been saying this.

@futfolt 2 жыл бұрын

браво)))

@mai3334 2 жыл бұрын

The Sofias are such special skaters. Love them.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@treelo11 2 жыл бұрын

Except for Samodurova

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad they are getting some love. Even if not from the judges.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

@@treelo11 lol well she is also special kind of skater, the "other" female skater taught by Mishin (other than Liza)

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@treelo11 Maybe not at this event but I have enjoyed her as well.

@biggestgymfan7230 2 жыл бұрын

Anya looks super injured to me like shes deteriorating really fast

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@dominiquedominique6462 2 жыл бұрын

So in love ins Sasha Trusova for showing the World what figure Skating is. Namely a SPORT. Her energy and athletism are just awesome.

@karlsamohin3282 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not only a sport, it’s not only TES, and I am saying this as a fan of her

@Julia-js7bs 2 жыл бұрын

It is literally called artistic skating in some countries. The score is comprised of TS and PSC.

@tsirkukkas3733 2 жыл бұрын

To me it looks like there is lots of P/C influence in S/B FS choreography. Very different from what they usually do I think.

@anthonydolio8118 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, once again, for a great discussion. I could not survive this Olympic season without you.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@LiliyaUgay 2 жыл бұрын

As a long-time Liza's fan (and glad this channel changed their attitude to her thanks to Jonathan's SC attendance), I did not feel that she lost this competition unfairly. I still cannot understand why she came to this, most important for her dream, competition without 3-3, which she was doing both in her SP and LP at Rostelecom. Of course, in fair judging, Shcherbakova (with at least 2 or 3 URs unmarked, and objectively, very weak this time PCS-wise in free) should have been somewhere behind Muravieva and maybe even behind Khromych, but she is a WC, and actually received not too-much-lower scores with similar competition at the Worlds. Liza knew that without quads this season she had to give it all, so why, why 3-2? She lost 12-14 points in SP on 3A and the combination, and still got 71, which was plenty for that skate. She would have been second after SP if did it clean, and then, even without 3-3 in LP, would have gotten higher PCS performing after Anna, and then I believe she would have scored above Anna overall. She just needed to repeat ANY of her previous performances of both programs she did so well this season. I am sure it is very difficult to maintain the top shape for so long when you are not 15. It was such a pity and shame that GPF was cancelled for Liza who tried so hard to make it despite Eteri clearly intentionally assigned Valieva to her for both GP events. It turned out that Trusova in some way had a benefit of the injury, because she had time to rest and relaunch. Anna started her season later, but she knew after SP she could repeat her WC performance here and still be ahead of Liza, so she was not trying hard. She is clever. It does not seem Mishin is as good of a strategist as Tutberidze in terms of knowing when to get someone in top shape or when an athlete can relax. It seems like his athletes start seasons a bit too early and peak in October/November and then, reasonably, are exhausted and on the recess by the time of RN. One can see how it worked 10-20 years ago, when Nats were so much easier, and Euros were so prestigious. Eteri's athletes tend to be most vulnerable at Euros - at least in all seasons before except for 2018; and that would be a good strategy now too because I doubt any of them, with the inflation they always get, could possibly lose it to clean Loena. And I highly doubt that after the sweep at Europeans, no matter the actual performances, federation would do anything to change this selection for Olympic games. Of course the ice is slippery, the injuries are so frequent in this sport, but they are also smart and Eteri now having only three, not six, women will be very cautious. In any case, I would actually be interested to see what would happen if Tuktamysheva moves to Tutberidze... whether she could actually pull out the quads at competitions then and what kind of scores would she be getting? There is not much too lose for her after this season, and it would be another "challenge" Tutberidze could be interested in.

@ileana823100 2 жыл бұрын

Eteri would not even know how to train an adult female skater like liza , and its a good thing liza wont change coaches. Eteri would be the end of her career .

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@ileana823100 well to be fair if she moved to anyone, it could be said by default that the coach was be the end of her career. Eteri did say in an interview recently that she would’ve wanted to have Tuktik and that she would have her jumping quads if she worked with her but it wasn’t her style to steal students or wouldn’t have been politically right or something like that. I somehow don’t see this, but I suppose anything can happen.

@LiliyaUgay 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou she said she wouldn't invite her because of coach ethics. However, it doesn't mean that she wouldn't take her if Liza herself asked. Or if Mishin would retire, which is expected in his respectable age. It really seems like Liza is doing the maximum of what she can do at this moment, but the Russian ladies field for the next Olympics will be even worse than ever despite new age restrictions. Three Sofias, Petrosyan and Zhilina, plus I'm pretty sure Valieva and Trusova will stay for a little longer - it would be pointless for Liza to stick around for another cycle unless she changes something drastically.

@LiliyaUgay 2 жыл бұрын

@@ileana823100 This exactly I think she could take her and really try hard. Eteri likes to take challenges and show off to accusers that she can do basically anything.

@ileana823100 2 жыл бұрын

@@LiliyaUgay eteri doesnt want to try ,dont you get that she doesnt want to consider an individual approach to adult skaters over 18 whose bodsy are simply not made for hundreds of repetitions after repetition.

@moanaplants9532 2 жыл бұрын

What do you think is the problem with Trusova’s 3A? Is it a head position thing? Idk if they were hinting that at the 1:48 mark

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It is the pattern on the ice and how she goes inside the circle. It tends to throw her off axis.

@elizabethburrell4756 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Do you think Mischin could fix her 3 axel?

@fzztsimmons 2 жыл бұрын

I would bet my entire house that Davis/Smolkin get entered into the FD portion of the team event. And then we'll have two moulin rouge FDs winning team gold despite D/S knockoff not even worthy of being spoken about in the same sentence as V/Ms. Ugh. I actually can't believe Eteri infiltrated ice dance, is nothing sacred now?? Also devastated for Liza but so proud she finished with an incredible skate in front of a home crowd. For everyone who called her FS tacky and questioned her choice - the crowd reception was exactly why she went for it. They love her and fully responded. Loved the portrait! Hope the Empress starts throwing down some quads next season, she'll have nothing to lose!

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Come on. Really? I mean this isn’t the first time I hear this so maybe it’s me who doesn’t get it. With ice dance as competitive as it is this year, they’re going to put that girl who can’t hold an edge for more than a second and just .. literally humiliate themselves globally like that? And you guys think that they can get gold! I don’t know I have eyes and I I can’t not see what I’m seeing: there’s no way they can win anything like that! I just thought that RusFed Wanted to send them for experience. Putting them in the team event would be asking for Public embarrassment. No? Maybe I’m the only one..🤷🏻‍♀️

@bojana5503 2 жыл бұрын

Liza was phenomenal and deserves Olympics more than any other Eteri's teenager 🥺

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

She has earned it this season!

@user-eu1ki5xy7b 2 жыл бұрын

а мы по какому принципу отбираем??? что значит заслуживает, многие на попадают и что ?? У нас жизнь такая- одним ВСЁ, другим-НИЧЕГО!!

@vd5234 2 жыл бұрын

They ALL deserved it for equal, they all are talented and work like crazy. Is no one’s fault there’s just 3 spots.

@christinethorp3684 2 жыл бұрын

Who would you take the spot away from, though? Kamila is otherworldly. Sasha is the one who started the quad revolution, and deserves some respect for that. Anna is the reigning World Champion and three-time Russian champion who can still throw down a solid program when the deck is stacked against her. I do believe Anna's time is running out quickly, though, and she is vulnerable. I can see Wakaba unseating her for the bronze medal at Olympics, if she hits her triple axels.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@christinethorp3684 Liza could go if one of the girls is injured. I think it was kind of a tough choice between Liza, Sasha, Anna, (and even Aliona; to a lesser extent Maya. Kind of a given that Kamila would go. RusFed clearly was on Anna’s side but as you note her condition is not ideal and clean Wakaba could beat her if fairly scored. Liza may be a stronger choice IMO at present than Anna. Sasha, I don’t think she will be going because she brought in the ladies quad revolution etc but because she actually brought the quads when needed, at the right time ( the nationals). She can be chaotic and they don’t like that.

@karinacabrera1833 2 жыл бұрын

Yaaaassss! Highly anticipated This and That! Thank you for the video. Shout out to our girl Wakaba for making the Olympic team!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@wafayafine1787 2 жыл бұрын

Don't you guys think the scheduling/timing for 4CC and Eureapon is unfair? The European countries are mostly going to send their potential Olympic teams there to battle it out and also to gain points for world standings. While, 4CC countries can't because it is too close to the olys.

@giustinidean 2 жыл бұрын

Gentlemen, you are a perfect commentating team. Wonder what you'd be like "live" in these events? When Dave is in deep analysis of the political storylines and poking below the surface like Rigoletto, it would be useful to have thought bubbles for Jonathan. Love to know what he's really thinking but won't say. Clearly, he's the best partner for Dave because he lets your riffs go unchallenged until their logical conclusion. Jonathan gives Dave so much room to lay it down. I bet Jonathan would be the best boyfriend. Just saying.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

He is the best!

@amyl6426 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! You two make a great duo! I love your commentary !! ♥️♥️♥️

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhah agreed! I love Jonathan. We always seem to agree, even silently. He’s kinda my imaginary boyfriend like that I guess. 😆

@anaelivillarreal4963 2 жыл бұрын

Sergei jumping for Trusova as she jumped and the awkward group hug they had like it was something it was scheduled

@hannahdeclerck6825 2 жыл бұрын

2:29 mins listening and it already makes my night! Love this!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@suzyq0076 2 жыл бұрын

Love the Liza Instagram idea. Somebody tell Liza ASAP.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

She used this strategy in the past, when she didn't get elected to world (Zhenya went there). She posted 3A back to back or something. But someone still needs to tell her to do it strategically ; )