This and That: 2022 European Figure Skating Championships (Kamila Valieva, Team Tutberidze)

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This week, the top skaters in Europe headed to Estonia for the 2022 European Figure Skating Championships. Team Tutberidze swept the podium in the women's event with Kamila Valieva, Anna Shcherbakova and Alexandra Trusova battling it out against Loena Hendrickx and Ekaterina Kurakova. Russia's pairs were supreme, with Mishina and Galliamov, Tarasova and Morozov and Boikova and Kozlovskii putting on a clinic for the rest of the world. In the men's event, Mark Kondtratiuk, Deniss Vasiljevs, Daniel Grassl and Kevin Aymoz stood out among the field. Diana Davis and Gleb Smolkin earned lower scores than they have this season in the dance event. It was a good day for Montreal, as Olivia Smart and Adrian Diaz earned a spot at the 2022 Olympic Games over Sara Hurtado and Kirill Khaliavin. Lilah Fear and Lewis Gibson also impressed in the rhythm dance. We break it all down on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Timestamps in progress: 0:00 introduction 0:58 -3:05 (around that is when it stops) unrelated to Figure skating but I’m assuming that Jonathan is at Disney. Dave can correct me if I’m wrong. Dave’s experiences at Disney.

@shomaunofan8486 2 жыл бұрын

3:30-7:13 team tuberiza pyramids (yay back!) 3:43 kamila 4:07 Anna 4:24 Tarasova and morozov 5:05 The Georgia guy (Morisi) 5:35 Trusova 7:18 Comment on European / 4cc at Estonia 7:57 European before olympics 12:52-18:08 Dave being stress after us national 18:10 European : pairs 18:20 tarasova/morozov 27:10 mishina/galliamov (27:25-29:25 on Euler/half loop) 37:42 dance 37:35 smart/diaz 38:43 hurtado/khaliavin 43:38 Allison Reed/Ambrulevicius 45:28 back to smart/diaz 48:46 Nikita yelling Marco to take off mask at podium 49:40 Italian team 54:32 stepanova/Bukin (also discuss on US dance teams ) 1:08:01 fear and gibson 1:11:11 next wave 1:12:46 russia team event 1:12:50 kamila want to do short (or one event) LP between Anna and Sasha 1:15:45 men team selection 1:16:46 dance selection (Kinda merge to men in European 😅) 1:17:47 mark kondratiuk 1:19:12 evengi samenenko 1:22:29 other men 1:22:31 Daniel Grassl 1:26:08 Kevin amoz

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no I wasn’t ready sorry

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Timestamps continued: 3:30-7:13 the infamous Eteri Pyramid is back and rightfully so. This event was all about Eteri keeping it real. Ladies (Europeans): 3:43 Kamila Valieva, insanely solid in the short program so much so that I did not expect the mistakes she made in the free, albeit minor there were a few costly errors but she was so above everyone else that it didn’t matter. Better here than imploding at the Olympics (remember the free program at the 2018 Worlds post Olympics Alina Zagitova). 4:07 Anna Shcherbakova, missed the “cascade” in the short program which was a costly error but in the end it didn’t matter she did her job in the free. The free program is growing on me immensely. I didn’t expect the quad to be done as well. I watched the entire ladies event and the last two groups of Ice Dance. 4:24 jumped to pairs for a hot second, Tarasova and Morozov beating one of the Moskvina teams but could not beat Mishina/Galliamov. 5:05 jumped to mens with either Georgian men coached by Eteri. Most notably with I forgot his name lol. I’ll come back in revision lol 5:35 back to ladies with Trusova, I expected some mistakes but she missed BOTH quad lutz combos. Costly. Downgraded 4Lz. Missed trixel in short. I felt underwhelmed by her performances here. Better to have a rough event here than at the Olympics where it REALLY counts. Eteri wants 1,2,3 she didn’t have it last time because she only had 2 ladies and Sotskova was the third and not coached by Eteri

@shomaunofan8486 2 жыл бұрын

FYI I’m just adding to ur timestamps since I’m watching it 🙂 I hope i didn’t cross the line.

@AlexGlumoff 2 жыл бұрын

I really miss Alyona Kostornaya at the competitions

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@pgk3052 2 жыл бұрын

It makes me want to weep.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, i have had this thought way too many times and think I actually preferred Aliona at her best to even Kamila. That might be bc I don’t like the Bolero program… but I definitely miss Aliona 💔

@ileana823100 2 жыл бұрын

Me too .

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou at her best Aliona is superior to Kamila except for spins. Even then Aliona spins are nice to look at too, Kamila is jist more flexible so she can make more interesting positions (interesting does not mean always good or better than your standard positions). Aliona skating skills, jumps' height and springiness, and her character on ice are things that I missed the most

@CrazyTiffany86 2 жыл бұрын

When Dave pulled out that pyramid and had everyone but Kamilla on that bottom row I fell out laughing.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@jenniferandrews7592 2 жыл бұрын

That toss of the pyramid at the end 🤣

@liceous 2 жыл бұрын

It’s an open faced sandwich with an olive at the top

@ColonelGreen 2 жыл бұрын

The men's event overall was the highlight for me. I had kind of come to accept that Deniss would never have a free skate like that, and then not only did he, it earned him a championship medal.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

I was so happy about that! 🎊 He came into the season like a beast. I never would have thought he could do this, either. Also, he doesn't skate like a carbon copy of Stephane anymore. And I like his hair the way it is. When he has it cut shorter, he looks too boyish to me. His hair is thick, and he has the bone structure, so he gets away with it. I enjoyed watching a bunch of the skaters that had scored ahead of him in the SP, lose their placement one by one, until he sat in bronze position. That's actually one of my favorite things to watch in a competition, as long as it benefits me. Like at Worlds when I was so angry that Bradie got 9th, and then I watched the girls drop like flies until Karen was in 4th 😁.

@Sophia-dnbetyt 2 жыл бұрын

Dave! Angelochka Shcherbakova literally came through in the exhibition program 😍 in all seriousness Anna's mental strength is UNREAL!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын

That exhibition performance was beautiful , esp with that glow in the dark dress…. I feel really bad for Anna, with all the hate that she has gotten this season. I’m really rooting for her to get an Olympic medal!

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I finally got the time to watch the exhibition. Anna was like an angel! ⛸⛸⛸

@ThePenkiteTV 2 жыл бұрын

@@msmo2060 i think people are hating on the judges for ignoring her mistakes and giving her super inflated components. And hating on Danny G for choreographing junior level boring routines for her. Anna herself is a lovely girl with great interpretation skills, musicality and amazing willpower. I don’t think anyones hating on Anna personally, it’s hard to dislike her I believe. It’s just that some skaters like Kaori, Wakaba and Satoko are so many levels above the Russians in PCS but the judges choose to devalue their component value by giving junior-level routines the same PCS scores. Loena is another example of unfairness - she gets scored to the same level as Sasha even though it’s clear that she deserves to be above her and Anna in both PCS and some GOE elements. In the past, PCS of skaters grew gradually over a skater’s 8 year career. The Russians jump from 63 to 74 PCS in the matter of a year. Yuna Kim for example used to get way lower PCS back when she was 18, it took her 6 years to get it up. It’s just unfair treatment if Russians. Even more, the Tutberidze girls. Liza should get way higher GOE for jumps given her textbook perfection technique.

@feyanormorfol2457 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePenkiteTV there is no "textbook technics" because there is NO "text" ans no "book". Prerotation is unlimited, there is no such a stupid koolatrash thing as "fullblade assist" in rules and so-said "minimal prerotation" worth nothing. Or prove me wrong with link to the REAL rules.

@mantile6796 2 жыл бұрын

Mark has a very lovable personally, he's a great performer and the chaos enhances the performance. His team did a great job with music.

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Even with his lines not being the cleanest, I really enjoy watching him and always root for him.

@barbaraczerwonka8297 2 жыл бұрын

YES! I've been waiting for this for the whole week! This is the highlight of my weekend!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@shelleyc853 2 жыл бұрын

We appreciate all the work you do and content you put out there Dave! Hope you have a good week and feel better :)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@junkfood1991 2 жыл бұрын

It is so unfortunate that Trusova is not at 100% due to injuries and very unlikely to get the gold at this point, but don’t we all hope for a miracle to happen? There is no fun watching the Olympic fully knowing who will win and I cannot be the only one who hopes that a dark horse will surprise us all.

@francirose89 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel indeed comes across as a lovely guy in interviews. Unfortunately he developed a concerning heart condition following a covid infection last year, and said he has had a difficult time getting his programmes and stamina back after being away from the ice for a while. He also said he has to take extra care as his heart issues make him vulnerable to covid. Proud of what he has accomplished at these Europeans despite all these worries, I believe in him and hope he will stay healthy and keep going :)

@hoizgmischt 2 жыл бұрын

Dave and Jonathan - you are amazing for posting so early! Perfect ending for the Euros-Weekend on Sunday evening in Austria 🥰

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@johnispo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being so productive pumping out all of these wonderful videos. You guys simply rock!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

You're late with the comments. It is noted.

@johnispo 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson like Kamila, I can't be perfect every time 😉

@Sayu277 2 жыл бұрын

StepBuk in person are really really engaging to me It's not the IJS System in itself that is the problem, it's the judges/judging.

@MrChaseBlue 2 жыл бұрын

That’s not the issue. They were referring to their skating, and overall ice coverage and speed, which could be seriously lacking in person.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrChaseBlue I’m not in person but I found those aspects to have improved greatly compared to the Grand Prix (where they were seen live in this context). Making a non-live to non-live comparison it’s clear to me they increased both speed and pattern size (ice covers age)

@gracej4306 2 жыл бұрын

I know Jonathan saw S/B live and thought they were slow. No doubt, I see that K/S are wicked fast it's not close BUT S/B have been improving a LOT. For example, just look at how much bigger their pattern is at Euros versus on the grand prix. They have great material and clearly work very hard. I wouldn't write them off.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen either live but even on video it’s clear to me StepBuk improved so much this season. Their rhythm dance in earlier Grand Prix vs RusNats and Europeans seems both faster and more precise. And their free too and like you say, their patterns are bigger as well. SinKats are great but their programs don’t engage me as much this season. I agree with you to not write off StepBuk. I find the two pairs very very close in technical and presentation overall.

@olgaszoke9241 2 жыл бұрын

European was amazing!! Hugs from Hungary!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@hazalsudinc1908 2 жыл бұрын

my favorite thing about sundays is to always wake up to a new episode of this and that :) thanks for contributing so much to the skating world :)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@isabellao18 2 жыл бұрын

I think what the ice dance situation tells us is that USFS needs to put both ice dance teams in the team event, not just because it's what is fair, but because it gives them chance to go up against the Russians and Canadians and see how things pan out and what little adjustments they can make before the dance competition.

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

Neither American team with win an individual bronze with those terrible Free Dances. Piper & Paul can walk through that door. Not sure why Marie France allowed these programs. I like the concept of Chock & Bates FD, but the music is garbage fir skating & goes nowhere. If they'd used Major Tom, it might've worked.

@maryspitzmueller669 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what what would happen if Chock and Bates went back to the snake charmer performance and Hubbell and Donahue went back to the Beth Hart. Just for the Olympics! IMO their best programs.

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

@@maryspitzmueller669 I agree about the program changes, and I would have advocated strongly for the Beth Hart, but they used it at the last Olympics. Had it been any other year I would have been all over it, campaigning like an idiot.

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

I think that it's the fair thing to do to have both teams skate, but I'm hearing that they give the higher-ranked team the chance to decide whether they will skate one or both programs. I do know that they did that with the Shibutanis, who chose to skate both programs themselves.

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 I think with teams as senior as H/D and C/B, Marie France is not in a position to deny a program that they want to do, unless it was something completely insane, then I can see her telling them that she won't assist them. I believe that she threatened Virtue and Moir with that when she didn't want to do Moulin Rouge at first. She told them to get another choreographer. Obviously they brought her around.

@anacampos5112 2 жыл бұрын

Loved Deniss FP and the chaotic mens competition ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@mai3334 2 жыл бұрын

How adorable is Anastasia Mishina? I don’t think it’s because they aren’t artistic, I think it’s because they skate like brother and sister.

@MrKaraal 2 жыл бұрын

I disagree with you

@il654 2 жыл бұрын

nah they perform a ballet piece like it’s the addams family

@yenlik5165 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is exactly how they treat each other in their daily lifes. Like brother and sister. And I think it really plays a huge part in their consistency. It's better to keep it this way rather than getting personal issues into skating.

@fw7103 2 жыл бұрын

I have never known an athlete in any sport with the mental grit and strength of Anna Shcherbakova. I thought she was done for and we were seeing the true end to her career but nope! She pulled it out the bag and being there was incredible. The energy and charisma of her skating is incredible and I’m shocked at just how good she is everytime I watch her live. Watching Kamila after was weirdly disappointing, which gave me this weird feeling that she’s peaked at the wrong time. She was so good at RusNats, while here, not so good, in training too. I just wonder if they’ve got the timing wrong. Edit: not sure if anyone is interested but my Russian team event line up is: Women’s - Valieva short, Shcherbakova free Men’s - Kondratuik Ice dance - S/K rhythm dance, S/B free Pairs - M/G

@kirstenneville1934 2 жыл бұрын

I just finally feel so validated that queen POLINA shamelessly yet tastefully brought to light just how unsightly Anya’s turned in feet are. She made it clear that it’s hideous and hard to watch and i couldn’t agree more. I can’t enjoy her good qualities because of how ugly that turned down foot is.

@juanantoniomoreno3409 2 жыл бұрын

I know of one: Michelle Kwan.

@mkp158 2 жыл бұрын

Anna is a warrior, that's for sure...

@hannibaljustincase9985 2 жыл бұрын

@@kirstenneville1934 No skater is perfect tho

@fw7103 2 жыл бұрын

@@kirstenneville1934 not what I was saying at all but good for you I guess… Enjoy your validation from the Queen of Mediocreness.

@DesiraeGraham 2 жыл бұрын

OMG the comment about Kirill being the pole and Sara dancing around him was hilarious!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Lolll

@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I've been looking forward to this!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@gogroregogoror 2 жыл бұрын

watching Ladies FS and feeling nothing, I would never expect that. Actually, found myself rooting for Shcherbakova.

@lisastiles1408 2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only North American that thought that the judging of the 2002 Olympic long program really could have gone either way between Russians Berezhnya and Sikhuralize and Canadians Sale and Pelltier, and had no problem with the original result of 5 judges to 4 in favor of the Russian team? And that gets a little cringy while watching Meddling and reliving Scott Hamilton’s crusade? And when the docudrama spends a large chunk of time to erect a sob story around Jamie Sale growing up with divorced parents? Not that I don’t give her credit for her fierce determination, but placed next to Berezhnya’s life, this move to gain sympathy comes across as extraordinarily petulant. And I don’t know who’s idea it was to dramatize certain parts of the story, but, to me, it really detracts from the level of credibility we usually associate with something billed as a documentary,.

@leonieshapiro8349 2 жыл бұрын

You are not alone, I am North American and I felt the same way as you did about the result, and I agree with you regarding Meddling as well.👍

@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын

I feel the EXACT same way. So tired of the Canadians bitching 20 years later. You got your gold. Please stop griping. Their program was old and easy, and I think Elena and Anton deserved a solo win.

@lisastiles1408 2 жыл бұрын

@@thesupremediva And forcing Elena and Anton to attend the second medal ceremony in all good cheer was simply cruel. Not our countries’ best moment.

@ThisIsBritt 2 жыл бұрын

You are not alone. Am from the US and feel the same way. Will not watch Meddling because of it. The 1-hour Netflix doc "Bad Sport" gave me my fill. The judges' choice for the Russians to get gold was not nearly as controversial as they made it. Not a good look for those involved (S/P) to keep pushing this narrative.

@ivelinkamenov 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it is worth mentioning....that Nikolaj Memola the Italian guy....I've never thought that I will see a guy who is 194cm( 6"5ish) doing a clean triple axel WOW....

@hoizgmischt 2 жыл бұрын

Hearing his height made my jaw drop!

@ariannabinaghi5222 2 жыл бұрын

I lost him the moment he said in an interview that he looks up to Trusova and Nathan Chen. Understood, you love jumping only I guess. To be fair, I didn’t watch him skate and I should probably do that before judging, but yeah, impressive for someone that tall

@bettybleu12 2 жыл бұрын

Thank God for Sunday and another This and That!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@coreygrunberg8933 2 жыл бұрын

Trusova Grassl side by side quad lutzes into their most challenging element, the side by side back crossovers

@hoizgmischt 2 жыл бұрын

I just guffawed 😂

@phanphuc1929 2 жыл бұрын

Eteri rlly need to hire a therapist for trusova, rmb the old man that always follow hanyu to every competition back then? I feel like she’s just lacking in her mental game because her sal and flip are 🤯

@anhnguyenthingoc9504 2 жыл бұрын

"Who do you think have better crossover, Trusova or Daniel?" I laughed so hard 🤣😂

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@kellymoran7001 2 жыл бұрын

Such an exciting week of skating! My hot takes: - Mark Kondratiuk is the most entertaining skater and deserves his crazy PCS because he commits 110% to every program and performs the hell out of it, even if he cannot hit a nice position or point a toe to save his life. I enjoy that his coach reposts fan art of him as Jesus with a whip. What's not to love!? - M/G should do both segments in the team event, none for T/M. They cannot be trusted, even Eteri throwing death stares from the boards can't scare them into doing clean programs. - Daniel Grassl should get negative GOE for having his mouth open during his jumps and making his face look like the terrifying ghostkiller mask from 'SCREAM'

@stuckin2003 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on Kondratiuk. In a perfect world, I'd have him in the mid 7s for SS; but definitely over 9 for PE/IN

@kellymoran7001 2 жыл бұрын

@@stuckin2003 totally agree! I wish judges weren't so conservative in their point ranges for PCS, most skaters aren't equally strong in all categories but the PCS scores rarely ever reflect the disparity. It's so common to see a skater get all 8s and 9s but never 7s in some and 9/10s in others!

@kellymoran7001 2 жыл бұрын

@Nathaniel Walker that’s taking what i said to an extreme but ok! don’t think anyone here would argue with you

@dkeinow 2 жыл бұрын

I loved how Mark was cheering for Andrei during the free

@redutlegalized9586 2 жыл бұрын

Eteri is the owner of provided ice for Tarasova/Morozov. Everithing in their ability in scating and performance is from Marina Zueva's training in US.

@sarahmcqueenie 2 жыл бұрын

I always liked Alena and Sasha, but Anna is such a fighter; talented, an excellent student and deserves Olympic success (but like others, I’m still disappointed that Liza and Alena won’t be there)…

@megseggz 2 жыл бұрын

Yesss I can't wait to finish my euros weekend with new This & That!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@chrisjacobsen5558 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, the relating I feel is real. With work and now all this skating, ncaa and cheer has the nerve to come out… it’s difficulty being this passionate about these things. 🥰

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@katherineripley254 2 жыл бұрын

I’M DYING!!!🤣 love your show!!! The impersonations!!🤣🥳🥳🥳

@bekalynn1980 2 жыл бұрын

In fairness to Eteri as well this was the best T/M have skated in a very long time. She is clearly good at 1. Preparing her skaters. 2. Learning the rule book. 3. Politicking. I can see why Trusova and Aliona went back to her. I don’t care for badmouthing students and their parents. Encouraging skating with broken hands whatever is going on with food. I felt people were unfair blaming her for not being in the Kiss and Cry in the short with Anna and Trusova . That’s common with multiple skates and while Vallieva is the favorite people forget she is a first year senior

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree when tarasova and morozov are clean they are Russia’s best chance to try and beat the Chinese because sorry but mishina and Galliamov are nowhere near the Chinese level so I think even if they weren’t skating with eteri they would have gotten a little push because as much they seem to let us down, when they are on they are really on. However I don’t think them skating clean had anything to do with eteri. They have been with her for so long and have not been able to get their act together, it was just a good day for them I think. Also have you noticed how much friendlier and warmer Vladimir is being to evgenia. Since like late 2019 I noticed he was so cold to her and many people were saying that’s why she was always making mistakes because it’s hard to skate with someone who is not supporting you but now he actually looks at her at the end of their program and seems to be much nicer, maybe that’s why her skating is improving😭

@rahelhorvat1471 2 жыл бұрын

she can't be at the same time in two places, she had 3 girls compete, someone needs to prepare the next, and someone in the cry section, so it's not like she didn't want to.

@hajime6908 2 жыл бұрын

yep, Trusova and Aliona went back to her, for exactly the reasons you wrote. They knew without her they won't win at Russian Championship, European Championship and won't participate at the Olympics

@marikafasola8771 2 жыл бұрын

TM are so cold, they skate with no emotions...like two corpses..and they were in toxic and abusive relationship, glad it ended

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@marikafasola8771 were they actually in an abusive relationship? How do you know? No wonder why they look so depressed when they skate. But if I recall they dated for like 6-7 years

@kerryperryman3025 2 жыл бұрын

Anna’s gala program was amazing.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Finally got a chance to watch and agree, it was lovely!

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a good idea wasted by DannyG again…too many leg grabbing blocking the LED wings instead of showcasing them with beautiful extensions

@riveroak-dp8gt 2 жыл бұрын

I’m dying 🤣🤣 Dave’s having too much fun with that pyramid 😂😂

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

The pyramids are awesome! Love that he actually makes them and the delivery 👌

@zytolda 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson you should get ISU award for best Program Education and Entertainmet

@lisastiles1408 2 жыл бұрын

I was totally thinking about G&G’s jump sequence with that includes a half loop. The pass has a distinct rhythm to it that many people performing similar sequences today lack. ANd their synchronicity when they hit it was other-worldly…siiiiigggghhhh.

@laurielynne2006 2 жыл бұрын

I could watch that sequence on a loop for hours😂😂

@andreagoldstein4070 2 жыл бұрын

Europeans was a fun distraction this week. My moments were Loena in the SP and Deniss winning bronze with Stephane's excitement. With Russia winning nine medals here, there were some nice surprises. Also Kurakova was a joy all around.

@mumacc9254 2 жыл бұрын

Kurakova's free program was very emotional

@neuroscienxe9266 2 жыл бұрын

Kurakova was my highlight! Benoit choreography aside, her joy for performing is always my favorite to watch.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Agree re Kurakova! Really enjoyed her skates

@louisehancock324 2 жыл бұрын

Kurakova programs were lovely. Loena cannot compete technically, but her musicality and artistry was the best for me. I felt emotional watching her.

@MrKaraal 2 жыл бұрын

Kurakova is also russian girl)

@mainaalmeida4246 2 жыл бұрын

Anna's face when she saw Trusova's dress is my moment of the week. Such a meme

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@TayTayT 2 жыл бұрын

That was so rude. And people call her an angel 🤦🏿‍♀️

@matthewhines9787 2 жыл бұрын

Dave's interview with Angelina Nikitina was possibly the best thing I have ever read/listened to. The commitment to truth and character is _real_

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@xiangnibian8473 2 жыл бұрын

Educational, excellent review. 🥰

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@DeepSeas.. 2 жыл бұрын

Ladies discussion starts at 1:32:26

@tranquilitytranquility1407 2 жыл бұрын

My moment of the week was Smart and Diaz and I don’t even follow dance usually, but I loved them. Especially her.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@mariazumhagen1755 2 жыл бұрын

Every freaking time someone does the half loop combo whoever is watching skating with me gasps and says "oh they messed up!" and I have to explain that it's intentional. Ug.

@nataliatop4716 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but Eteri Tutberidze not mentioned, like you said - if Tuktamysheva was with me should be doing quads all the time. She just told : "There is was a time when I was wondering, why she doesn't jump quads. I saw she's able to. No, I wouldn't invite her. And not because she's not interesting to me, but simply due to the ethical reasons, there is such things as a trainer's ethics". There is a big difference. And very shallow judgment, when you even don't understand, what she was talking about...

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

OK, I think that the issue isn’t that they didn’t understand but that you are taking a joke as though they meant some serious factual statement like in a scientific paper or something. They were laughing as they were saying it. Maybe that should be a clue for you. Honestly every time that Russian media/fans take this channel in full seriousness when they’re being humorous it ends up being more comedy gold. I love the whole Russian intensity and I’m even a quarter Russian but sometimes you guys need to have a bit of a sense of humor and figurative speech. Much love!

@verena3531 2 жыл бұрын

OMG I was waiting for this. Greetings from Germany :)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there!

@wp382 2 жыл бұрын

Another Verena from Germany here 🙋🏻‍♀️ have been waiting too! Thank you for bringing us all the extra information! Never went into watching olympics feeling like a super-skating-nerd before 😅😌

@laurielynne2006 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with Dave about Meddling. I’m really loving it❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@louisehancock324 2 жыл бұрын

The actress playing the French judge is so good. Don’t know if she is portraying her as someone drunk, on drugs or with dementia.😀.

@embeth446 2 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else see Danny G. close his eyes and let out a colossal sigh when Anna’s score came up? Dave and Jonathan, I’m curious how long you think this Eteri bonus will continue. You talk about Marie France being in danger of losing favor with the judges, but what about Eteri? The pendulum has to swing back the other way at some point doesn’t it? Thanks for the interesting discussion as always!

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

did he do that in the sp? Also to be fair at least marie france has the french who are obviously leagues ahead and to the general skating fans, ice dance is much harder to understand than any other discipline. So even if those who know ice dance can see that marie france has a hold on the judges, to a lot of people, they dont know. Unlike the ladies where even the lesser educated ones on skating can see when someone falls, when someone's spins travel, when someone's goe is too high, when their technique is wrong. I know its nothing big but with the top ice dance teams, its much harder to tell who is really not good and whos deserving of their scores compared to ladies. So i actually dont think this can go on for much longer. All was going well for her until russian nationals where people just had enough. I was so suprised to see diana in 8th after the sp, seems like the judges arent protecting her as much anymore. What im trying to say is more people know about the eteri bonus now, and its glaring how much its infected skating, so to protect the sport they are going to need to do something about it I hope that after these olympics she will be no more

@embeth446 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 He did the sigh after her score came up in the free program. Very much looked like a sigh of relief. I agree with you about protecting the sport. The judging is becoming a joke. This can’t continue if they want the sport to survive.

@Maria-fh4uk 2 жыл бұрын

guys you should activate english subtitles for who isn’t a native english speaker:( please!!

@mainaalmeida4246 2 жыл бұрын

I am watching with subtitles. I think they become available few hours after the video is uploaded

@MaryFeinman 2 жыл бұрын

Those 2 days between the women's SP and FP were the happiest in Dave's life, but it didn't last for too long 😏

@hyacinthgirl76 2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis as always! Please provide a TSL coverage of the NCAA women’s gymnastics!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@mumacc9254 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video :) kisses and hugs from Perú :)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@Maya-hi6ce 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing my thoughts on Eulers lol. I thought I was alone.

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

Whenever I need a pick-me-up, I'll just go back to a freeze frame of Jonathan doing the Daniel Grassl Pez mouth open pose. I'm crying over here. 😂

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!!!

@ileana823100 2 жыл бұрын

And why the heck cant danny g let anna hopd a damm spiral for a bit longer as she showed in her exhibition that she can do a beautiful spiral . Why ? Are the girls forced to skate to such a choreography?

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 жыл бұрын

and all the leg-grabbings blocking the wings...🤦‍♀️

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to clear to everyone that I love doing timestamps as I have been a supporter of this channel since the very very beginning

@dee98 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your hardworks!

@joejoematic8206 2 жыл бұрын

Being live in the Arena at all events. Denis was stunning in the FP and SP! His programs seperated themselves out. He should have won Gold under fair PCS judging.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

If I might comment and compared Dennis with Jason since both are having almost the same tech contents, IMO Dennis did not get the same level as Jason's appreciation for GOE and PCS. I felt Dennis GOE for his well executed jumps, spins and steps were small and PCS were not enough compared to what he delivered and gave in both SP and FP. That's how things are because he's coming from smaller fed and that is sad thing.

@jmonz2625 2 жыл бұрын

Dave must be a proud dad this week

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes

@emilymcmahon2670 2 жыл бұрын

Love the sweater, Dave! You LOOK great. Any swollen gland is not visible. And may Jonathan make it through Disney in one piece. Thank you for another wonderful episode. Always a highlight on me week :)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed!

@TheLkell00 2 жыл бұрын

Very Patrick Chan Dust in the Wind.

@queenredspecial 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! What's the thing on peacock that you say is worth watching?

@martaszczesiak6606 2 жыл бұрын

A perfect cure for Sunday evening anxiety. Thank you!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@elyzguadalupev 2 жыл бұрын

I loved Anna’s free skate really ❤️

@pgk3052 2 жыл бұрын

She was storming the ice and taking no prisoners. I was never counting her out. I told my husband she is like A Knight Who Says " Ni "-She would have skated on one leg with bloody stumps for arms.

@Violet-xk5ud Жыл бұрын

Dave being Eteri with the Eteri pyramid is something i never knew i needed until now. It is incredible and so accurate.

@nutabones 2 жыл бұрын

I need to watch that video about valieva's short programs :) someone send me the link, please

@rahelhorvat1471 2 жыл бұрын

Did Scherbakova have some kind of battery that you turn on to light those Christmas lights in her white-angel dress, how does the thing keep the lights on her wings?

@MADHAUSMARKALLAN 2 жыл бұрын

Loving and living for Meddling as well! It tweaks my geek!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@sincantations 2 жыл бұрын

the tea that is about to be spilled......

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@thekaphayogi917 2 жыл бұрын

Best online show ever!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@Jeremy-wp4yh 2 жыл бұрын

I have difficulty supporting skaters that are helped by the judges. Your honest skaters are such hard workers and don't get to see the fruits of their labour.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

I always root for accurate judging.

@youarestronger 2 жыл бұрын

Agree. It is not the skaters' fault but it is hard to root for anyone who benefits from cheating or biased judging. Also depends how they handle it. Patrick Chan was arguably better than his peers but when people criticized his wins over people who skated clean like Ten or Takahashi, it was the lack of humility or acknowledgement that others skated well that was so off-putting. Still one of my favourite skaters but made me like Ten and Takahashi even more lol And Nathan getting such high PCS when Yuzuru or Jason have better skating skills makes me not want Nathan to win. I dont want him to skate bad just want fairness

@louisehancock324 2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger Nathan does not get over scored compared to Jason or Hanyu. Jason is one of my favorite skaters, but unfortunately, Jason does not have the high technical content like Hanyu and Nathan. In comparison, Hanyu and Nathan both have high technical content but Hanyu has become his own worst enemy the last few years. He leaves a lot on the ice when in competition against Nathan, otherwise he is scored highly when competing.

@youarestronger 2 жыл бұрын

@@louisehancock324 Nathan's transitions vanish from programs. What Yuzuru does in and out of jumps is substantially more difficult and requires so much more control and clean landings. Nathan hops out of his jumps before you even get to see a running edge. What Jason does, no one else can do. He should always be far ahead of Nathan in PCS. And there is ji rule saying if you jump more quads you get free pcs points. If Jason's PCS is so much better, shouldn't he be getting free quad points. Nathan gets high GOE on elements others do better. Sorry not fair.

@louisehancock324 2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger All three of the mentioned skaters have specific good skills. Hanyu has good transitions but does not cover the ice as well as Nathan or Jason and his energy depletes as his program goes on.Nathan does not have the level of artistry as Hanyu or Jason. We cannot ignore the reality that this is sport and technical scores usually determine the winners in this scoring system. No matter how great Jason or any other skaters component scores are, skaters that perform multiple higher level jumps will win. I am not saying this is right, but a current reality.

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

I will do timestamps today! I will need a few hours to do so so I will most likely be done by end of day today! Sorry for the inconvenience everyone!

@thewaitisogre 2 жыл бұрын

if you’re trapped in the skating lesson basement blink twice

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!!

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

@@thewaitisogre second comment like this haha

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

@@thewaitisogre I love doing this! It makes my day

@syd1764 2 жыл бұрын

I would LOVE for sasha trusova to skate in the free program!! How fitting would it be for the first lady who jumped 3 different quads to be the First Lady to land a quad in the olympics? I really think she'll be able to pull off the free. Do I think she should do all five quads? No but her 4LZ, 4F, and 4LZ+3T

@verabilling 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS DAVID AND JONATHAN! You are such intelligent and knowledgeable people. I love David's sass and physical experience and Jonathan's ability to see to quality and to express it in words. At the end of the video you really were engaged and so honest. I love your posts more and more. I don't expect you to read through all these comments... but thanks anyway from a 66 year old figure skating fan from Scandinavia

@marycoyne1889 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the Euler comment. And the way that so many skaters take off on two feet for their salchow after an Euler-which does not seem to generate the negative GOE it should.

@patrickneedham3363 2 жыл бұрын

To me Ekaterina Kurakova is the most adorable and likable skater I've seen in a long time. She may well have had the event of her lifetime. I wouldn't expect she will be in the top 5 regularly. But a needed bit of fun and happiness when watching a 5 hour live feed with dozens of bland programs and disappointed competitors. I hope she keeps skating for a long time. She is one of the highlights if you are going to watch the 2nd tier group of women.

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 жыл бұрын

She reminds me of Kaetlyn Osmond. Always so genuinely joyful and makes me enjoy their skating no matter how they did.

@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын

Do U think that Kurakova ( or Loena) will be able to beat Wakaba or Kaori ( at Olympics) ? Well, i'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if Wakaba finished at Olympics podium. Who knows.

@birdtweettweet 2 жыл бұрын

Dave - dare I ask, were you and your high school's choir performing at Epcot's Candlelight?

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It was 2003 and the middle of the day. I don’t remember much else!

@christineaalejo 2 жыл бұрын

Okay but how about Sasha Fear? This was the first time I watched this team, but I actually enjoyed the Nutcracker far more than the Lion King. I find Sasha to be a stronger skater than Lilah. And George is the Waddell brother of the Canadian junior national champ? It will be interesting to see them compete against each other in the future.

@stuckin2003 2 жыл бұрын

Also, last thing: totally with Jonathan on Disneyworld. Went for the first time in my 20s, babysitting the bf's friends kid, and it was a most hideous experience. Longest 12 hours of my life.

@Saturnchick822 2 жыл бұрын

David! Regarding Medling, you and Jonathan should totally score the 2002 pairs events for the Canadians and Russians! That would be amazing!

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

I thought they said they already did that. I could be wrong, though.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

We did. It is on Patreon.

@Saturnchick822 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Will have to check this out. Looking forward to it!

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree about M&G's music. I think they're great but the music is so wrong for them. (Plus the cut will never make sense for me.) I remember feeling like when I first heard it that Moskvina didn't want them to win.

@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes, agree !!!!!!

@maximamaxima8718 2 жыл бұрын

Вы не правы. Москвина фанатичный тренер. Эта музыка- история её жизни , жизнь во времени и в развитии.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. B&K free program is so Olympic compared to M&G

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou Yes, totally! I greatly prefer M&G's skating, but B&K's program is the one I actually want to watch this year.

@ariannabinaghi5222 2 жыл бұрын

I think we like Kurakova becaus she is the European Kaori in the sense that she is our skating sunshine. Her personality and happiness are infectious and you just end up cheering for her skates, which are quite lovely as well. She should have been above Anna in the short btw. Oh and I’m Italian, not Polish. I’ll add that I was definitely happier for Dennis than I was for Daniel (screw nationalism), who not only doesn’t have the PCs, he has every single technical issue you can think of in the jumps and even complained that his edges were called. He seems like a really nice guy, but it looks like they’re not even trying to fix those things

@patrickneedham3363 2 жыл бұрын

She is lovely. She can finish 5th or 15th and I'll enjoy her skate just the same.

@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын

Kurakova is a cute, but i doubt that she'll be able to beat Wakaba or Kaori ( at Olympics), without ultra C, no way. Btw, comparing with Kaori's programs, Kurakova's still seems a little childish ( my opinion).

@ariannabinaghi5222 2 жыл бұрын

@@nenavujicin7882 I wasn't comparing her program to Kaori's, I was talking about her personality

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

Talinn is the best. If you ever get a chance to go, I can tell you all the best restaurants and places!

@maryspitzmueller669 2 жыл бұрын

So grateful for the “Meddling” recommendation as I wasn’t too excited about rehashing this thing again, especially after “Second Mark” and “Bad Sport”, but you’re right… it is on point!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

You're so welcome!

@maryspitzmueller669 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson give me all the St. Petersburg fluff

@mkp158 2 жыл бұрын

If I were RusFed, I would have split men's participation in team's event as SP - Mark Kondratyuk and FS - Misha Kolyada. I think it's too much pressure for either of them to perform two programs in team event.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

What is your lineup for the other disciplines?

@redutlegalized9586 2 жыл бұрын

Rus trainers board just published that Kolyada won't compete in team event.

@maximamaxima8718 2 жыл бұрын

@@redutlegalized9586 это решение не окончательное. Был опрос у специалистов, они действительно большинством голосов не поддержали его участие в командных соревнованиях. Мое мнение другое : Коляда - SP, Марк- FP. Коляда -« человек настроения» с неустойчивым спортивным настроем. Парень обладает уникальными физическими возможностями, которые никогда не использует в полной мере.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Dave you should make separate video discussing team event participants from US, Russia, and Japan. I think those 3 would make the podium in any order depending on how other teams perform, like Georgia for example. It would be fun to analyze the chances like what if Morisi 4 saltoes cause Russia to finish 4th in men? Lol

@mkp158 2 жыл бұрын

@@redutlegalized9586 No, RusFed announced that "Матч TV channel" provided a false information and no final decision has been made so far. Furthermore, RusFed said that such voting on Kolyada didn't take place.

@stuckin2003 2 жыл бұрын

I will not stand for any Eva Lotta Kiibus costume slander! 😂 I love both her dresses. Sorry I have taste.

@patrickneedham3363 2 жыл бұрын

Especially her short program. She looks like a stained glass window

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@stuckin2003 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickneedham3363 Definitely. The LP dress is trashy, but I still love it. I do think the SP dress is legit stunning!

@strawberrylime33 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say, I don't mind her costumes either. It's better than the sweetheart- neckline-bedazzler collection from Brad griffies or those Olga dresses with a white slip peeking out of the bottom!

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t mind her costumes either

@trylogic4084 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, why are you saying that Chock/Bates' mistake wasn't as big as H/D's? C/B had a fall at Finlandia, while Zach had a stutter-step while holding Maddie in a lift, and she went nowhere. There was also that funky almost-fall Nikita had while holding Viki. Also, Gabi fell during twizzles at French Nationals. Pretty much the top-tier all had their moment. Of all of those, H/D had the smallest mistake in my opinion.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

We are talking about over the course of their careers. Don't gaslight me.

@cmadoyle1111 2 жыл бұрын

I'm with ya Jonathan, not a fan of Dismal World either. WAY, WAY, WAY TOO crowded for me. There should be a limit to how many people can be in the park at one time, and OMG the frigging price to get in. Not for me and I'm a roller coaster fanatic, but I ain't paying that much to maybe get to ride three coasters in 10 hours at the part, due to the waiting times.

@cosmos9688 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Mr. Grassl beginning his long program by executing 3 amazing loops in succession.

@jenna5578 2 жыл бұрын

Have you guys thought about uploading these on podcast platforms? It might help you guys reach a larger audience, especially with the 4 year fan crowd jumping on the skating bandwagon now!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

The audio version is available for Patreon members.

@jenna5578 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Ahhh didn’t know that!! Thanks for the info! :)

@colleenshaughnessy7081 2 жыл бұрын

I adore Kevin the same way I adore Shomo. There is just so endearing, heart-on-the-sleeve about them. You can't not root for them. And Kevin just FEELS and BELIEVES in his work - you just buy in and go with him, especially this year's FS.

@Manicprogessive 2 жыл бұрын

Just a note. It is 39 lashes. I listened to the album constantly when it came out as a kid. I think JCS was my main source of religious education as a kid, because those sermons and confirmation classes weren’t doing the job, lol. Also Paul in second Corinthians 11:24 says “forty lashes less one”.

@nataliedaniels5621 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. And, definitely, everything I know about the new testament is from JC Superstar.

@BillyWhaler 2 жыл бұрын

Trusova is now the Evel Knievel of quads. Time to lean in. Attempt 10 quads in the long, land 4. Win gold.

@rheinnon 2 жыл бұрын

I hate that this is a scenario that could actually play out.

@BmcC102 2 жыл бұрын

You are too right!

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Ugh don’t give her any more ideas!

@redutlegalized9586 2 жыл бұрын

Its a pity for this girl, she is really unique skate jumper. And she doesnt undetstand her wrong direction which Tutberidze pushes her onto - still a 17 y.o. child.

@saraehtor7753 2 жыл бұрын

@@redutlegalized9586 Eteri destroyed every single quality Sasha ever had

@mmg1800 2 жыл бұрын

Are you guys watching Jr Rusnats? Can't wait for the Eteri vs Plushenko showdown. Do you think Plush gonna have better results now that Etei has her hands full with the Olympics. Also waiting for Kagapol (Kaganovskaya/Angelopol) they will save us from Diana Davis in the future.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I do cause plushenko skaters seem to actually have good technique. I think he has seen the mistakes eteri is making and will not be teaching the same technique to his skaters

@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of my Beloved King Plu; and he's on the way to become a promising coach; but don't forget Davidov's students ( especially 14yo Samodelkina who landed 3 quadruple jumps + 3Axel.)

@user-jy8zb2wc8l 2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts listening to this: Let's have a moment of appreciation and celebration for skaters (for example, Yuzuru, Jason, Liza with her jump quality) who ignore the out of whack judging and still aim to judge themselves by their own standards and develop to meet them. Skaters shouldn't need to be their own judging system to this extent, but it's still just appreciated. This also for coaches as well that aren't going for the cheated tricks. I'm just genuinely putting hope out into the universe for skaters like these to continue to exist against the current.

@biggestgymfan7230 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with Dave medaling is so good!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@dkeinow 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know how you guys do it. I am emotionally exhausted after watching US nationals, Canada and Korean Nationals, then Europeans. I can't bring myself to watch Meddling yet! But got to watch before the Olympics

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@ilzeloka6639 2 жыл бұрын

btw Deniss actually landed a quad salchow for the first time (and the last until now) at 2020 nebelhorn

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@WilliamAndrew-je5bb 7 ай бұрын

I love Captiva Island!!! I used to go there as a child to visit family. Love this Johnathan. ❤️

@rheinnon 2 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking. Maybe Jason Brown should employ the Trusova Method to move up in the rankings. Just make all the jumps "quads" and that way the falls won't really matter.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@TC-kl6kb 2 жыл бұрын

Quad with fall is less points than a good triple. Maybe use a calculator next time…….

@seashellez 2 жыл бұрын

I remember in 2017-2018 all 3 US dance teams were about even. I don’t think USFS was pushing for 1 team over an other. I really hope they split the dance for the team event.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

They had the coaches to do that for them.

@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын

Yes me too and I expect it’ll be CB rhythm and HD free