Andrew Lincoln acted the hell out of that scene. So good.

​@@rumham7466Honestly, Jon Bernthal's performance is the best in the work. The guy delivered absolutely every emotion he could.

Source? Never seen this before

Man let me mourn in peace man 😂

Shut up you dork

Facts

​@@The_Modern_Nomadsawwww bless😅

By the way, if you want to talk about shane's leadership when he led the group, you can go to the first episodes. You will see that he only cared about Lori and Carl. He told Andrea's sister openly that she can forget Andrea, that he will not risk anything for her. Oh and remember how he cared for Lori by trying to rape her in the end of season 1? He also did nothing when Rick was fighting enemies. He just fooled Lori to make her come back to the farm. That's all. He was never a leader.

Honestly his character ended perfectly that’s all imma say.

@@linaskranauskas I'm sooooooo glad you brought that up about what Shane said to Amy. Shane would have left Andrea, Glen, and all of them in Atlanta just for Lori and Carl to be safe. It's all about Shane's feelings and no one else.

Yet he still has massive cult following 🤣🤣 cry more

@@linaskranauskasSo true! The way he already said that Andrea might be dead with zero empathy 😂 He didn’t care at all

Reasonable interpretation, Shane wasn't going to shoot the first time, and the 2nd time too, it's already more than interpreted that Shane just wanted to force Rick to evolve by force, he knew he was out of place, that Rick wouldn't be able to move forward just by making good decisions, Shane was necessary, he forced Rick to become a man. A character better written than any other in the series, and better acted too.

Haha Shane was just as good a character as Rick though

@@IncognitoJohnDoe If Shane was leading a dog or just Lori and Carl then none of them would survive for long. They need the group, anyone in this situation needs a group to survive long term. This was Shane's mistake, if he cared about the whole group the way he did for Lori and Carl then YES, he would be a good leader.

@@HiImVee 😂

​@IncognitoJohnDoe Lmao Shane leadership had them ass out in the woods to be eaten by walkers, then his next idea was to got to Fort Benning which was overrun by walkers pretty quickly. How could he possibly be a good leader when he keeps leaving people behind that aren't Lori.

​@@korivex742He was not arguing you on if they would survive he agreed with you he's just arguing your definition of leader

@@IncognitoJohnDoe lol well that is fine because I wasn't arguing with you.... I was agreeing with you, what a weird thing to say.

How is this who he's been since day 1? What obligation does he have to a whole group. He already did more than enough by having that camp and looking for their safety but they knew the city was a risk going in and out of and Glenn even said the first time they go as a group is when it fucks up. I think being the only one who realises what needs to be done, constantly being given mixed signals by someone you loved and repeatedly told that you're in the wrong and your just crazy when you end up being proven right is what drove him further down the road. People want to act like Shane from the start was this bloodthirsty tyrant who wanted to boss a group around. He found some sort of peace in family with Lori and Carl and it came crashing down to reality when Rick showed up. He tried to talk about it to get over it and was shut down and treated like he was some malicious liar who only tried to get into Loris pants. Then at the end of it Lori finally admits she owes him a lot after constantly flipping from on and off with him. He was pushed to the edge and of course he did unforgivable things but he was also right a lot of the time and was the only one of the group who knew what needed to be done before Rick finally caught up and realised the world they lived in. Anybody who says Shane is wrong is then admitting anything done in the later seasons is also wrong. So what should the group do? Just lay down and let people like the Governor and Negan use them and kill them. Or protect themselves? This isn't the same world, as much as Dale wants to argue against it the world is all about survival of the fittest.

@@a_kmzaProfesionial yapper

I agree. Especially when he was taunting him saying “I’m a better father than you Rick” even his tone seemed calculated in a mocking way to get him to kill him.

THANK UUUU . lmaoo he would’ve been horrible

Chandler Riggs’s (Carl’s actor) himself said the show would’ve lasted a few seasons with Shane as leader 😂

I mean it's not that hard to adapt a different script for his character, but the writing on the wall said Shane has to die because prophecy or some bullshit like that.

🧢

Lmaoooo that dead guy?? 😭 nah

​@@soggynugznah ur done💀💀💀💀

@@soggynugzbruh Shane is the best walking dead character of all time easily, then Rick and Daryl

During the last verbal exchange when Shane kept taunting Rick, supposedly Jon Bernthal wanted it to seem like he was pushing Rick further and further until he had no choice but to kill him, to finally push him over the line and realize he has to do certain things to not end up in situations like this one. Which means he was trying to get Rick to stop taking half measures. He asked the studio to do a reveal that the gun he had pointed at Rick was empty the whole time after he died which could suggest Jon knew more about the character than we got the chance to. The way the studio did it leaves it open to interpretation rather than something solid people just accept.

Nahhhh lmao y’all both delusional. Shane only cares about control and what he wants. He’d kill to get it . Even innocent ppl. A real leader would find a better way then to just throw temper tantrums like Shame does anytime he gets upsetti spaghetti 😞😞🤣

Considering the person who CREATED Shane has already said that everyone would've died if Shane had stayed/been the leader, I'm gonna go with nope, you're a dumbass my guy

@@HiImVee i jus thought that bc of when he said u have no idea of what i can live wit and earlier in the episode he saw rick was starting to favor daryl more so he felt more of an outcast

"Raise your gun rick!!" Yeah thanks for this, you are totally correct. another details people miss in their blind emotional hate for Shane.

I kinda agree but at the same time maybe he expected Rick to just hurt him so he’ll have a reason to kill him and make it look like an accident. Both can be true.

Yeah I agree looked like rick talked sense into shane before he stabbed him which is sad because I think shane could of redeemed himself later in the show

@@bittercolesslaw Literally nothing of what you said explains how you came to that conclusion. At least not in a way that makes sense lmao

Except Rick says that in a moment of weakness and desperation considering everything that was happening with the Saviors lmao, they clearly go the other route by the end of that arc in that Rick WAS actually right the whole time. But ok, focus on a sentence in one episode which gets turned around later on lmao whatever works for you

True

@lukefury8162 I don’t agree but I don’t want to say why because I don’t want to give anything away for the guys

@@Zombiegirl_63 yeah that's why I deleted me comment lol

@@lukefury8162 I know it’s hard I always have to watch myself too 👍💙

Still could of done alot more with shane since the show did stray away from alot of the source material

I like them both

appreciate it man

This I didn't know. The show reversed it. I think having Lori be Carl's first human kill was more impactful.

Gone too soon - AJ

"I will not stop next time, you hear me?! I'll beatya dead Ed..." Yeah people always make this point. While also saying he didn't care about anyone except Lori and Carl. Yet he taught this wife beater/child toucher a lesson. He probably SHOULD have killed him. What else would you do with this type of guy post apocalypse?

It made my heart smile

​@@soggynugzsame 😊 - Ilias

@@soggynugz Fair enough. I think it was the writers intention to make that scene emotional though. Don't normally play sad music when you kill a cut and dry villain.

😂😂

AJ would be a Claimer for sure lmfaoooo

Otis and Shane would've died and thus Carl would've died too if not for Shane so yeah he was justified.

@@Cortez6605 No lol. The time spent on Shane shooting, fighting and taking that bag off Otis was enough for them to both escape. People like you are disgusting

​@@Cortez6605they both could've made it. There was chance.

It is only Shane's fault. Only he is responsible for his actions.

Are you REALLY trying to blame Lori at all for this situation 😂

Because it is her fault for giving him hope

@@jarvisfowlkes3200 its shane fault for being a weak minded man 😂he contradicted himself so hard

I didn’t realize that Shane was being force choked by lori to kill her own husband???? What part of the episode is that?? Shane got his own homely ass killed 🤣 delulu

Nahhhhh. Lori tried to clear the air and move on. He's the one who turned that into a I can get her back. He played himself

Thank you, couldn’t have put it better myself regarding the Otis situation. The guys seem to keep missing the fact that it was either both of them die or one of them sacrifices themselves ~ AJ

nevermind i’m dumb as fuck 😭😭 yall do look the same tho my cousin thought it was u also

Nah that ain't me i wish i was in a video with 7 million views 😂

Completely agree, lori is moving very messy this season regarding Shane

Shane has a pretty big cult following so I find it hard to believe when you say you're shocked when people see him more good than bad. I thought he was right about everything except the lori obsession

@@lukefury8162 I didn't completely hate him, he had his moments. Andrea said it best when she told him it was his delivery that could use a little work. The walkers in the barn could've waited. They weren't a safety issue until they found out they were there, for example. He wanted to make the calls and resented it when everyone looked to Rick. The Otis thing changed him (as it would anyone) but I think some of those traits were already there, he just kept them in check. It's for sure he wanted what Rick had when it came to Lori and Carl. I wasn't sorry to see him go cause at the end he was causing more problems than anything.

@@sunnygrl027 I agree with mostly what you said except with killing him off would of been interesting to see him leave the group then return later in the show, always felt like bit of a waste killing him off so early in the show

@@lukefury8162 That I will agree with. I would've loved to have seen him pop up later on. With the way he was losing it, it would've been interesting to see him come back as a villian.

Don't have Discord bro, you can send me a voice message on Instagram @ajvalentino_11 we can talk there

Shane was quite literally the opposite of ‘sane’. First season as soon as Rick gets back he’s thinking of killing him (when he points his gun at rick in the forest). Shane was not a good leader, and he did not ‘adapt’. He was just an insane obsessive psychopath

​@@GameRollRDRno rick was simply the more the dominant alpha putting it simply, who'm having to rapidly adapt to the ever increasing threat that is the world around them, anybody could've easily broken under such pressure, especially considering having to help this group of survivors escape from Atlanta relatively intact, I mean I doubt anybody could've done better in that situation, maybe rick but unfortunately he was in a coma.

It was just Lori and the jealousy he had towards Rick

Which makes him a horrible survivor lmaooo imagine your weakness being the other gender 🤣🤣🤣

​@@soggynugzyou have no balls

@@soggynugzyour my weakness😩😩😩

He didn't care about finding Sophia after day 1 because as an ex cop he knew statistically children were not found after that amount of time or something like that. So why use the resources and put life's in danger looking for days on end?

@@trevor5071 lol. So what would you do if you lost your child and your so called best friend used statistics as a reason to stop searching after 24 hours? Would you just be ok with that? What normal person would just be fine with not searching for their child due to statistics? I just named like six people he was ready to abandon without thought, and you try to justify that "statistically" abandoning the little girl makes sense? Stop it. Just stop

@@saeres9288 he was literally proven right, she was in the barn the whole time and Daryl almost died looking for her. Plus more. People get so emotional and hate on Shane when the writing itself proves he was right about just about everything. He just was losing his mind in the process

@@saeres9288 "stahp, just stahp!" Chill bruv

@@trevor5071 lol. you right. i do be getting too aggressive in these comments. i mean no disrespect tho.