MAN , your videos are masterpeace , can you make videos about Concepts like oblivion , limbo and phantoms ? thank you again for this video

Go to eastern Europe or china with commie blocks then you will see a city that is built for nobody. If you added the appearance of Megacities like New York, Tokyo, Delhi & shanghai as places that look artificial were no sane person would want to live you get Ex - Log. I Life in London that is one of the world 1st great cities as both a metropolis & cosmopolitan city it rather immense to new comers but Mega cities are on a whole other scale with often no greens areas with vast portions that have barely any people with other portions that are so densely populated that no one would want to live in either area of a mega city. You have the highest depression, mental illness & self harm rates in megacities as frankly humans are not meant to live like that. Many want to make London a mega city or claim it is but it really isn't as we have few high rises but nothing like in USA, China, India's or Japans mega cities for comparison. I am genuinely amazed that you have never been to a city as how do you manage that in the 21st century?

Have you considered covering The Void video game ? Its an fascinating existential puzzle. Pathologic 2 might also be worth examining, its rich in metaphor and symbolism, while also having a unique world and interaction with the player.

Literally was obsessing over this manga the past few days, and then you upload this. What are the odds, lol 😂

Ground News is a good step forward, but you gotta remember that everyone has a bias, even folks trying to work to cut through it. It's worth at least throwing that out there.

In the Space Battle forums, people have even tried throwing different fictional universes and even several Warhammer 40K factions and races to try and control the City. Despite all the absurd coping and calculations, the results are almost always this: "Lost, presumed eaten by locals." And it is not even a joke. That is the MOST LIKELY OUTCOME.

JFC, I need to read Blame again

@@y.matocinos8448 So even 40k, THE #1 "Curb-Stomp practically everyone else" series when dropped in discussions...aren't able to conquer the place. Holy Jesus.

@@emperorgalaxian6573 As quoted by a user when someone asked if a billion Imperium of Man can control the City: "To give an idea of the sheer size of the City. The spherical portion stretches out to the orbit of Jupiter, which is 744 million kilometres away from the Sun. This gives it a volume of 1.7e+27 cubic kilometres. If you want a single Guardsman per cubic kilometre, you would need 1.7e+27 Guardsmen. Dividing that by a billion, the Imperium of Man would need to have 1.7e+18 Guardsmen or 1.7 quintillion Guardsmen. I don't think they have that many. Besides which, 1 Guardsmen per cubic kilometre is not going to let them win. It's still not enough force concentration to overwhelm the City." The funny thing about it is that even if the forums would disregard the ridiculous mass and size of the structure (theoretically the size of Betelgeuse, theoretically the size of Jupiter's orbit, and with some parts theoretically reaching the Oort Cloud), what about the Megastructure? Gravitational Beam Emitters are needed to destroy the material in the first place because of the gravity furnaces allowing it to be indestructible without the mass turning into a massive black hole. And if those very gravity furnaces can regenerate on their own, what's not to say the whole City can't regenerate by itself as well? And even if you could meet a new person every couple of years, it could either be Safeguards or Silicon Life. Safeguards have GBEs of their own, as well as GBE shields to block said shots. Same goes for Silicon Life, who even have melee GBE weapons that have the same destructive output, like swordwaves. And in terms of individual power-scaling, the characters of BLAME! are ABSURD. I won't spoil so much, but Killy's GBE's Level 1 shot has a recorded range of 70 kilometers. We don't know if that's the minimum, the average, or the maximum range. And Killy's fired GBE MAX shots several times, but we are not given any statistics on how destructive that is. We only SEE the results via the illustrations. Even if a lot of theory-crafting and implications are needed to wrap our heads around the manga, those theories and implications are terrifying, and no one will understand fully until they read the manga themselves.

I didn't know that there were more humans in Blame. I only watched the anime tho. That changes things a lot.

If they're not human how can they have betrayed humanity?

​@@Ebani Ultimately, all of BLAME! began with a faction creating Silicon Life, a faction setting the Safeguard to exterminate anyone without the Net Terminal Gene, and that first faction unleashing a pathogen that eliminated the Net Terminal Gene from the human genome. This is the betrayal in question.

that was Tale Foundry warning us that he and robots like him will take over because of our own failings

This is what happens... When an architecture student that can draw people discovers the nature of most of an architect's clients.

@@woongah Architect boss: _"Your designs will never be published."_ Nihei: _"Hold my beer."_ +Draws "Blame!" manga+

Same! Instantly stoked!

Same, such an iconic setting

Same

It's been two hours. Have you left work yet?

@Leto85 getting home, the moment I have dinner ready I'm watching it XD

I haven't read the manga, But based on what was shown and spoken about in the video, I feel like it was a disservice to the manga to compare it to nuclear weapons and burial sites. To me, the foundation sounds like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy run through AI A few times tries to build a city and the result slowly gets more corrupted as it continues to grow. The idea that the city is more populous than ever actually makes the setting much more intriguing to me then the idea of A simple eldritch city with A handful of people scurrying at the corners.

So nature, but instead of just plant cells and animals cells, they get metal and plastic as well.

Great ending to your comment✨

@@Bluedragon-iz3oo at the rate we’re going, soon we’ll have that irl if we don’t already lol

That sounds familiar. Where's it from?

​@@catbatrat1760Lord of the Rings series.

​@@catbatrat1760The Mines of Moria, LotR

@@catbatrat1760 Boromir

Pretty much this.

Yeah, it resembles what came before but possesses none of the purpose, and now it lives in an uncanny valley of runaway replication. Eventually, it just starts replicating its earlier replications and it spirals down infinitely into a meaningless distortion that has no humanity to it

Me watching sports be like:

So AI art?

@Cordelia Wagner: yeah, that's another good example

That’s just AI

I'm going to find that comic.

The algorithm is not new, but it has grown tetrationally.

My grandma actually gave me some old retro comics years ago, and one of them was that Star Trek story! I remember it really made me stop and think about the danger of humanity being so creative and curious, that we might accidentally end up making ourselves obsolete.

Blame and the Star trek Comic are both likely to be inspired by E.M Foresters 1909 Short Story "The Machine Stops"

@@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames A favorite of mine, and constantly on my mind since the quarantine.

Never heard of this, but now you gave me something interesting to look into. Thanks!

@@mme725 Your welcome. Its a really good short film.

Oooo I think I know that nice

For me it was reminiscent of the Iterators in Rain World. They're not empty (in fact full of evolved and deadly wildlife), but they've got such weird, alien layouts. Sky-high chimneys, ladders too tall for you to climb, industrial architecture with seemingly no purpose... It's definitely not a city built for you. Also the 2d medium probably helps.

Sounds like the beginning of Wall-E - a robot desperately trying to build a city long after humanity is gone and all

Even tearing all of sols planets down to nothing, thats no where near enough mass to build something so large. Im curious if the story accounts for that in some way. Planning to read it now though.

@@phftheebonidiot637 IIRC there's no direct explanation, but it is suggested that The City uses some lovecraftian clarketech to both not let the city to collapse into a black hole under its own weight (it is estimated that it extends out to the Oort cloud by now and outmasses half the galaxy) and to get all this building material, which also I think implied to be gathered from the _alternative timelines,_ Appertuse Science-style.

Holy shit thats a complete nightmare, now I'm more convinced by arguments that the strongest and biggest fictional armies would be unable to conquer this place. Its so big and automated that it undoes any amount of progress, slowly or with abrupt force. I watched the movie on Netflix and felt like I was missing something, now I understand the movie much better.

​@@boppertron4929 do you think it's possible a human in the future is born with the gene to control the city within reason and become immune to the virus that renders this ability mute. Cause supposedly at one point humans were able to control the city but due to a plague it altered humanity's DNA and the city no longer registered them as legal citizens. It became hostile and here we are.

@@DarthBiomech The near a galaxy worth of mass calculation IIRC was if the city was made out of *air.* And the city is most definately not made up of only air. And also I think it only accounted for the layered parts of the city. Which is up to around Jupiter orbit.

You guys are actually comparing this to Frankenstein? Really?

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 what’s wrong with that?

Generative AI taking the corpses of stolen art and sewing them together into a new form of soul less art. Naw there's no parallels there, nope, no.

@@DudeInADinoOnesie A song made by AI isn't going to slaughter townsfolk.

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 I was saying more like the idea of different parts being put together to make something since I couldn’t think of anything else to connect how AI works

Oh my, yes! I've only seen the first few episodes. Thank for the reminder to pick it up again!

Girl's Last Tour draws inspiration from Blame and has a lot of little references to it.

Remote-controlled, or autonomous? There would almost certainly be passageways, for robots. Try designing passageways without the usual assumptions such as ventilation, lighting, safety, uniform size... Would there be anti-interloper systems? Write it.

Kinda like the multipede weapon platforms in Appleseed, needing to shut down the ai controlling them and bypassing it's defence systems

@@VidkunQL honestly I was just thinking it works like other military drones. No place for people to really take control on it. Just a bunch of big slabs of metal with a whole lot of electronics and engines inside. But yeah the more I think about it, the more interesting it seems like it could be. I was thinking of writing some scifi for a while. Maybe that's something I can include :D

The universal paperclip game is soooo good

It may even cannibalize itself to make more paperclips...

And how will it teach itsrlf if it never learned to teach itself? Theory busted, I would say.

Funny thing about it is that it considers EVERYTHING as a room, including the entire universe. This basically leads to SCP-184 becoming one of those potential SCP-001 entries, because its anomalous properties can create the very anomalies the Foundation is trying to contain.

well, then dont do that

But humans too have to be prompted (birthed) in order to make suggestions.

in fairness, all art is based on other things. Thats simply how the human brain works. There are no ideas in a vacuum. Before a human becomes an artist, they learn through exposure to art, and knowledge about art. All Modern art is built upon the art of its predecesors. we look at art, take what we like, and add it to our own. The best we can get without doing that, is either Photorealism, or more likely, Stick figures. Which are both still based on other things. Ever realize that Cave Paintings Look Exactly like Kindergarten Art?

​​@candlestone5397 It does These things yes, but for what purpose. If left to its own devices without a directive, AI will do diddly squat. It also requires human beings to dictate if what it makes is any good. Its program allows it to replicate patterns, and mimic agency, but without humans to make its first references, it would have nothing. AI lacks agency, and that agency requires true sentience.

@@plaidhatter1674 why do we make art? For a lot of folk its because they are told to, and paid for it. who tells a human if their art is any good? Other humans give them validation because without it they might stop altogether. What does a brain do if the part of it that wants to create art doesn't do anything? All the brain does is replicate patterns. We only have as much agency as our brains can comprehend. If you can't imagine it, it can't be done. Period. The only thing separating brain from computer aside from what it is made of, is that the brain is more advanced by far. And considering how fast we are advancing on that front, it won't be true forever.

⁠​⁠@@candlestone5397Yeah, but I'm pretty sure AI art programs (in their current state) can't make value judgements or actually recognise flaws in 'their own' work.

this^

This concept is definitely going to be a location in a Destiny themed dnd location for my campaign. A massive city that sprawls infinitely into the planet of Venus, with seemingly no creators in sight. It's clearly Vex, but none of them are in sight.

I believe they said it was empty

​@@tforterthe gaping hole where Jupiter used to be is empty. The rest of space in our solar system isn't.

It would've collapsed if not for the gravity furnaces which regulates the gravity being produced by the megastructure (countless computer chips stacked on top of each other in higher n-dimensions). Gravity furnaces are the ones responsible for why the the countless layers of the city still feels earth-like gravity.

@@tforter actually, turns out if you replace the entire solar system with air, that means "get rid of the sun and the planets and fill an entire sphere the radius of the solar system with air", you will still end up with a black hole. Fun fact, the Schwarzschild radius of the observable universe is almost exactly the size of the observable universe. Another fun fact: The Hubble Constant, representing the red shift of the universe, can be expressed in Hertz, and the wavelength of that frequency is the size of the universe. 3rd fun fact: both of those are 100% coincidences. 5 billion years ago they weren't close, and in 5 billion years they won't be again.

​@@OhhCrapGuyin reality, yes, in BLAME! theoratical gravity particles, gravitons are proven and is harnessed by technology. The self building city regulates its gravity and does not collapse into a black hole. There is also a possibility that in BLAME gravitons are really weak infinite energy sources, which then can be used to convert into more matter.

Check House of Leaves or Piranesi.

Sidonia quite decent tho his Post-Post Apocalypse and "Industrial" setting and story are rehashed a lot and obviously feel repetitive but the art always the main course .

Like a podcaster💀

@@buckethat7585 i mean maybe lol it would be interesting expand the story

I mean, technically, the worksare still there 😂

yepp tkmz did said that Blame! was one of the inspiration

I not sure of Talebot, but I remember seeing Tailoid (the little guys) keychains available. Edit: correcting an auto-correct.

I kinda imaged that the sun is stil burning in the center of the solar system, while the 'city' has become a massive structure surrounding it, like a solid dyson-sphere. And the hollow sphere around the sun is used to collect both the releasing gases and sunlight from the star, converting it to building material (you know, e=mc2), because otherwise, where would the builders at that point even get building material from?

@@MTTT1234 Nah, the sun cannot possibly provide enough energy and material for the scale that the City operates at. There are running theories that suggest the City get building materials through alternate realities and mines dark matter for energy by using gravity furnaces. Gravity furnaces are also responsible for why the City hasn't collapsed into the biggest black hole the universe has ever seen despite massively outmassing the galaxy that it's currently in.

SO REAL OMG