More students need to learn this way to solve absolute value equations

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bprp math basics

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Learn how to use the definition of the absolute value, i.e. abs(x-a) represents the distance between x and a on the number line, to solve the equation abs(x-5)+abs(x+1)=6. This equation has infinitely many answers but it's not all real numbers!
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@jensraab2902
@jensraab2902 Ай бұрын
Conceptualizing this sum of "absolute sums" as a combined distance makes a lot of sense! It's much more satisfying, and easier, than breaking the equation up in three cases and doing the algebra (as I did before watching the video). Very neat!
@Mike__B
@Mike__B Ай бұрын
I'm not going to lie, as soon as you said "the distance between" I thought you were going to start invoking complex numbers as part of the solution.
@johnwalker1058
@johnwalker1058 24 күн бұрын
same. especially when he brought up "not all real solutions"
@PrincessHonk
@PrincessHonk Ай бұрын
So [-1, 5] What a fun solution!
@arentwhy
@arentwhy Ай бұрын
2:59 nice eraser
@Mike__B
@Mike__B Ай бұрын
I've been there before, plastic eraser holder and the piece of felt that is attached with a sticky tape/glue to it over time just comes off. That's why I bring my own eraser to classrooms, I can't trust any other teacher and their sloppy ways of ruining it and more importantly... not replacing it when it's broken.
@ibrahimali3192
@ibrahimali3192 Ай бұрын
i thought you meant that the solutions aren't all real numbers so i was just patiently waiting for a complex solution 😂 my brain wasn't braining edit: tHaNkS fOr 1 LiKe!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
@Yilmaz4
@Yilmaz4 Ай бұрын
how would there be complex solutions without a x^2💀
@windowsxpmemesandstufflol
@windowsxpmemesandstufflol Ай бұрын
@@Yilmaz4I think the x terms are in absolute values
@Yilmaz4
@Yilmaz4 Ай бұрын
@@windowsxpmemesandstufflol oh i forgot absolute value is the modulus of the complex number, well that way there must be complex solutions tho, in fact infinitely many
@richardhole8429
@richardhole8429 Ай бұрын
Plot the complex number on the y-axis of the number line. It is obvious that any point in complex plane off the number line will total greater than 6
@walidability
@walidability Ай бұрын
same
@fizisistguy
@fizisistguy Ай бұрын
When you can't understand the problem so he lets you visualise it. Best math teacher❤.
@user-qc9cd5iz3l
@user-qc9cd5iz3l Ай бұрын
OMG I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WASNT ABLE TO FOR LIKE A WEEK TYSMM
@hibah_Arts
@hibah_Arts 23 күн бұрын
I really love your way of teaching.
@user-qc9cd5iz3l
@user-qc9cd5iz3l Ай бұрын
Please can you do more questions related to the modulus function I would really appreciate it!
@MaxCubing11
@MaxCubing11 Ай бұрын
At the beginning of the video I was thinking like the solutions were complex or something like this, but after I think he kinda "opened" my mind and I remained shocked about this way to understand better absolute value
@benspahiu7675
@benspahiu7675 Ай бұрын
When you said “it’s not all real numbers”, I thought you meant complex solutions as well. Thinking about the standard norm in the complex plane, I saw that all solutions form an ellipse around the foci -1 and 5 (flat line since the sum of distances is 6). Looking at the comments, I’m not the only one to have noticed this, but still thought it was really neat.
@richardhole8429
@richardhole8429 Ай бұрын
There is discussion in the comments forva solution in the complex plane. Would you do a follow-up and address that, please.
@jamesgreenwood6997
@jamesgreenwood6997 Ай бұрын
You can also make use of the triangle inequality to get the same result.
@HD-fy2wu
@HD-fy2wu Ай бұрын
This reminds me of the property of an ellipse. If the right-hand side of the equation is something more than 6, the solution forms an ellipse with its focus at -1 and 5 respectively, where the vertical axis is the imaginary number axis.
@magikarpxd5844
@magikarpxd5844 24 күн бұрын
Can you move the absolute value to the 8? Like from |x-2|=8 to x-2=|8|
@Ricardo_S
@Ricardo_S Ай бұрын
I check wit intervals, the interval (-∞,-1) both absoluts values their negative inside and gives x=-1 but -1 its not on (-∞,-1) (Actually you can include -1 since 0=-0 but well I realized later) Then [-1,5) And you get the negative inside from x-5 but the positive from x+1 You get -x+5+x+1=6 that give us 6=6 so, al the values between [-1,5) its an answer (in this part was when I realized that 0=-0) And the las interval was [5,∞) That make the both positives than give us x=5 So [-1,5)U[5]=[-1,5] I didn't check if there are complex solutions
@rajeshpawar6271
@rajeshpawar6271 Ай бұрын
Can you please make a video on Lagrange interpolation please please please
@nicholasscott3287
@nicholasscott3287 Ай бұрын
What if the distance between the two numbers is not equal to the sum of the absolute values, though, like if you had |x-5| + |x+1| =7?
@hatimzeineddine8723
@hatimzeineddine8723 Ай бұрын
You'd be taking on the outside of the two limits, so like x = 5.5 would be a solution
@sohanadhikari4804
@sohanadhikari4804 Ай бұрын
I think -2 and 6
@jensraab2902
@jensraab2902 Ай бұрын
If you plot the sum of the two absolute sums you'll get a graph that looks like the silhouette of a truncated cone, or a V but instead of the point in the bottom you have a line, or this ⊔ but instead of right angles they are greater than 90°. Equating this with a specific value (as in |x-5| + |x+1| = 6) means looking for where this graph intersects with a line parallel to the x-axis. What you see very neatly from this graph is that this lower line is a segment of the line y=6. That's why you get infinitely many solutions, all numbers between -1 and 5. If you "pull up" the line parallel to the x-axis, you'll get two points intersecting with that graph, in equal distances from -1 and 5. For the value 7, as in your example, it will be at an additional distance of 0.5 in both directions, i.e. -1-0.5 (i.e. -1.5) on the left, and 5+0.5 (i.e. 5.5) on the right. If however you "pull down" the line parallel to the x-axis below y=6, then this line will not intersect with the graph and there are no solutions at all (e.g. no solutions for |x-5| + |x+1| = 3). Like I said, if you plot the graphs, you'll easily see all of this. It's a lot more straightforward to see than me describing the plot.
@drdynanite
@drdynanite Ай бұрын
In this case you can split your solution into several cases, which solves the module and lets you turn this into trivial linear equation. In your example cases are 1) -inf < x ≤ -1; 2) -1 ≤ x ≤ 5 and 3) 5 ≤ x < +inf. After you solve each case make sure the solution satisfies initial condition. First case yields solution x = -1.5, second case has no solutions and third case yields solution x = 5.5. Solutions for cases 1) and 3) satisfy their own initial conditions, so final answer is x = -1.5 and x = 5.5.
@vladislavanikin3398
@vladislavanikin3398 Ай бұрын
Still works, but now there will only be two answers: 5.5 and -1.5. The idea is still the same, the distance between -1 and 5 is 6 and for every number between those two the summed distances cover the interval from -1 to 5, however, every number outside [-1,5] covers [-1,5] only once and then covers the interval from the number to the closest end of [-1,5] twice and this double covering should be 7-6=1, so it's two numbers (in the case of real numbers) distance 0.5 from -1 and 5 outside [-1,5], giving solutions -1.5 and 5.5. It also works for complex numbers as well, but there are infinitely many solutions, all lying on an ellipse with foci -1 and 5 by the definition of an ellipse. That also shows that for any d smaller than 6 |x-5|+|x+1|=d there are no solutions real or complex. As for the sum of three absolute values of this form or scaled absolute values... It becomes quite a mess really quickly. And that is not taking into account expressions not of the form x-a inside the absolute values. At this point doing something other than considering cases doesn't really work.
@zehradiyab3439
@zehradiyab3439 Ай бұрын
Can we say the solution of |x-5|+|x+1|>6 is R-[-1,5] And |x-5|+|x+1|
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Ай бұрын
Yes, you would be right.
@user-qc9cd5iz3l
@user-qc9cd5iz3l Ай бұрын
If |x - a| is distance between x and a, then what is |x + a|? What is just |x|?
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Ай бұрын
@@user-qc9cd5iz3l He showed it was the distance between x and -a. |x| is the distance between x and 0.
@user-qc9cd5iz3l
@user-qc9cd5iz3l Ай бұрын
I am not understanding maths after grade 10 I am just 'memorising' maths
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Ай бұрын
@@user-qc9cd5iz3l Kind of need to memorize some of the concepts. The why is the more important thing because the result can be generated from the why. For example, the absolute value is just the distance from 0. It's why the function was made. The addition is just moving the function left and right, which is what happens in every function when there is an addition to a particular variable. If you add it outside the function, then you move the graph up and down. Multiplication of the variable just shrinks or extends the graph.
@seventysevensquare
@seventysevensquare Ай бұрын
It's easier to just make a rough graph of it, range of it's solutions will be pretty clear that way.❤
@rossk4770
@rossk4770 Ай бұрын
Apply triangle inequality to LHS => |2x-4| \leq 6 => -6 \leq 2x -4 \leq 6 => -2 \leq 2x \leq 10 => -1 \leq x \leq 5. To verify these are the only solutions, by way of contradiction suppose x ot \in [-1,5] and |x-5| + |x+1| =6. Then either x>5 or x5 => |x-5|>0 and |x+1|>6 =>adding these 2 we get |x-5| + |x+1|>6 implying |x-5| + |x+1| =\=6, a contradiction. Case 2: x x+10 =>x-56 => adding these 2 we get |x-5| + |x+1|>6 implying |x-5| + |x+1| =\=6, a contradiction.
@sachinth1029
@sachinth1029 Ай бұрын
Feeling proud as I did it in my head and I got it correct 😎😎
@m.h.6470
@m.h.6470 Ай бұрын
Solution: The edge cases are x < 5 and x < -1 Case 1: x ≥ 5 x - 5 + x + 1 = 6 2x - 4 = 6 |+4 2x = 10 |:2 x = 5 Since x = 5 and x ≥ 5 works, it is a valid solution, but ONLY x = 5. Case 2: -1 ≤ x < 5 -(x - 5) + x + 1 = 6 -x + 5 + x + 1 = 6 6 = 6 So everything inside -1 ≤ x < 5 is a valid solution Case 3: x < -1 -(x - 5) + -(x + 1) = 6 -x + 5 - x - 1 = 6 -2x + 4 = 6 |-4 -2x = 2 |:-2 x = -1 Since x = -1 and x < -1 is a contradiction, x can not be below -1 Putting the valid results of case 1 and 2 together, we end up with -1 ≤ x ≤ 5 or x = [-1, 5]
@paulzupan3732
@paulzupan3732 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this, I was trying to think of a way to do it algebraically.
@theupson
@theupson Ай бұрын
if you want complex solutions, it's an ellipse and the equation is already in the canonical form. if you're some kind of real number degenerate, it's an extremely simple piecewise function
@tommysmith5479
@tommysmith5479 Ай бұрын
How do we work this out mathematically, as opposed to drawing a number line and making a few guesses?
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Ай бұрын
You look at the cases for the expressions inside the absolute values. Either they both are negative, both are positive, or one is positive, and the other is negative. In the case of both negative, x - 5 < 0 and x + 1 0 x - 5 + x + 1 = 6 => 2x - 4 = 6 => 2x = 10 => x = 5. x - 5 >= 0 and x +1 > 0 with x = 5, valid solution. In the case of one is positive and the other is negative, x -5 < 0 and x + 1 > 0 (Accidentally wrote the wrong symbol, but I corrected it below.) -x + 5 + x + 1 = 6 6 = 6, valid for all x in the interval x < 5 and x > -1 Put it all together -1
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Ай бұрын
In the general case one of the intervals might have produced an equation where there were two constants that were unequal. That just eliminates that interval producing any solution at all or the number isn't in the range, and therefore, it equally is not a solution.
@PranavBhartiAcount
@PranavBhartiAcount Ай бұрын
You can also do the steps mentioned in the video till 3:29 then prove why all answers belongs between -1 and 5 by intuition. Basically the gap between -1 and 5 is 6, so if x is somewhere between -1 and 5, it would be akin to breaking the line from -1 to 5 in two parts; from -1 to x and x to 5 so the total distance of both would obviously be 6. Since the distance from -1 to 5 is 6, the distance from -1 to an x greater than 5 would naturally be greater than 6, and since the distance from 5 to -1 is 6, the distance from 5 to a number less than -1 would be greater than six Technically it’s the same method as the video, but we’re eliminating ranges instead of proving the same via induction. You can try plugging 5.01 and 4.99 in the equation and look at the equation made as a way to see why mathematically the numbers work out as you move the numbers up and down. Maybe the confusion is happening because the integer value that were chosen doesn’t make it very clear why it would be the same for all numbers in that range.
@vladislavanikin3398
@vladislavanikin3398 Ай бұрын
What makes you think this is not a mathematical way of working it out? It's a geometric way of solving an algebraic problem. If solving a geometric problem with algebra is a mathematical approach, then why going the other way shouldn't be? You have two points on a line distance 6 apart and you are asked to find all points such that the sum of distances from this point to two given points is also 6. This is only possible if you are between the two points. This can be proven in a number of ways, but more often than not it's an axiom in geometry that for any three points A, B and P, where d(A,B) denotes the distance between A and B d(A,P)+d(B,P)=d(A,B) iff P is between A and B. It's on par with the triangle inequality, giving a condition for equality. Depending on your choice of axioms it can be a theorem, but there's nothing not mathematical in this approach IMO.
@theupson
@theupson Ай бұрын
if you don't hate yourself, you render the absolute values into piecewise functions. if you do hate yourself (equivalently, if you love algebra), you treat the absolute values as square roots
@hibah_Arts
@hibah_Arts 23 күн бұрын
this is a wondeful informative video
@lobsoff
@lobsoff Ай бұрын
It seems to me that it was easier to explain through a graph, if you know what a graph looks like, these are functions, and then the problem is solved orally!
@jesusthroughmary
@jesusthroughmary Ай бұрын
So this only works when the two "fixed points" are exactly 6 apart?
@FreakyRufus
@FreakyRufus Ай бұрын
I always see the thumbnail of your videos and think I know the correct answer, but realize I don’t when I watch the video.
@user-vz8tf3ts1o
@user-vz8tf3ts1o Ай бұрын
I would like to draw this function graph😂
@joshuahillerup4290
@joshuahillerup4290 Ай бұрын
Where are the non real solutions mentioned a few times?
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo Ай бұрын
He's not talking about non-real solution, he mentions that there are infinite solutions, but that the solution isn't "all real numbers".
@joshuahillerup4290
@joshuahillerup4290 Ай бұрын
@@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo ah, the phrasing sounded like he meant some of the solutions weren't real numbers
@naoufalelazizi9271
@naoufalelazizi9271 Ай бұрын
Do you have a new camera?
@ThorfinnBus
@ThorfinnBus Ай бұрын
I like how if the question was not"x" and rather it was "z" , everyone would know it has complex solutions.
@hunkrulez777
@hunkrulez777 19 күн бұрын
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@montesquieu0
@montesquieu0 Ай бұрын
use graphic go brrrrrrr
@noredem
@noredem 28 күн бұрын
Is 0 not an answer as well
@mihaleben6051
@mihaleben6051 Ай бұрын
Yeah anything below -1 does not work.
@mrio0
@mrio0 Ай бұрын
wtf thats crazy
@UserSams-ve2mj
@UserSams-ve2mj Ай бұрын
|x-5| + |x+1| = 6 First, we find the roots x-5 = 0 x+1=0 x = 5 x = -1 Then we draw the signs table -inf -1 5 +inf x-5 - - 0 + x+1 - 0 + + If x € ]-inf;-1[ : |x-5| + |x+1| = 6 (-x + 5) + (-x - 1) = 6 -x + 5 - x - 1 = 6 -2x + 4 = 6 x = -1 unacceptable If x € ]-1;5[: |x-5| + |x+1| = 6 -x + 5 + x + 1 = 6 0x = 0 all possible x € ]-1;5[ If x € ]5;+inf[ |x-5| + |x+1| = 6 x - 5 + x + 1 = 6 2x = 10 x = 5 unacceptable If x = -1 6 = 6 so x = -1 is a solution If x = 5 6 = 6 so x = 5 is a solution x € [-1;5]
@UserSams-ve2mj
@UserSams-ve2mj Ай бұрын
I didn't use the definition it's just the method we learned at school
@johnathanpatrick6118
@johnathanpatrick6118 Ай бұрын
Alright, we got 2 answers, x = -1 and x = 5, that's it, done. 😁😁 *bprp: JOB'S NOT FINISHED!!!!* ❌❌
@mihaleben6051
@mihaleben6051 Ай бұрын
Nvm i think -2 does not work
@mihaleben6051
@mihaleben6051 Ай бұрын
Dear god im pretty sure every number works
@Gezraf
@Gezraf Ай бұрын
yo
@chinjunsi7752
@chinjunsi7752 Ай бұрын
Can someone solve this for me There are 3 kinds of bananas red, green, and blue. For every 4500 red bananas sold you get 1500 dollars, for every 3000 green bananas sold you get 1000 dollars, and for every 2500 blue bananas sold you get 2500 dollars. Now, for every 100k bananas sold you'll gain 1% more money(multiplicative). If I want to sell 50 million bananas of each kind, which banana color gives me more money?
@UserSams-ve2mj
@UserSams-ve2mj Ай бұрын
Since when do red, blue and green bananas exist?
@user-if1wi1de4g
@user-if1wi1de4g Ай бұрын
First 😊
@teelo12000
@teelo12000 Ай бұрын
Noone else noticed the siren being picked up as background noise?
@beast-jn1lg
@beast-jn1lg Ай бұрын
Does it contain cocaine?
@theupson
@theupson Ай бұрын
alcohol is for algebra. cocaine is saved for number theory. look man, i don't make the rules
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