THIS IS SINGAPORE. THIS IS WHAT I IDENTIFY WITH. | NATURLIZED SINGAPOREAN [TALK LEH! EP 4]

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wHUAtru

wHUAtru

Күн бұрын

In this final podcast episode, hear from Hu Jun and Tou Chen about why they decided to become Singaporeans and how they perceive their Chinese Singaporean identity, in light of their ties with China and Malaysia.
TALK LEH! Is a video podcast series that seeks to hear from Singaporean Chinese on their views towards their own identity, while exploring unique factors that intersect one’s Singaporean Chinese identity.
0:00 Introduction
1:52 Reasons for converting to Singapore citizenship
4:04 Perception of their Chinese identity
7:55 Difference in identity from a Malaysian to a Singaporean
9:00 Difference in identity as a Singaporean Chinese and a global Chinese
9:46 Anchoring our loyalties
12:40 From Chinese majority in China to multiracial Singapore
13:14 From Chinese minority in Malaysia to the majority in Singapore
14:38 Best part of being a Chinese Singaporean
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@HCL882
@HCL882 Ай бұрын
Yes sporeans identify ourselves more as sporeans than our ethnicity. I feel Tou Chen got it correct! I really appreciate him and am happy he chose Spore.
@iAxianguy
@iAxianguy Ай бұрын
I am so moved by Tou Chen story of the migrant worker during COVID. 🙂🙏👍
@TanDenise
@TanDenise Ай бұрын
Tou Chen's responses are very heartfelt. His story about how Singapore did not give up on the young migrant worker during Covid moved me to tears. And his testament about building unity during good times is what will carry all Singaporeans through the tough times was so poignant, especially in light of the increasingly fragmented world we are experiencing now, post Covid. This is really an excellent and down to earth interview and really gives a lot of food for thought on what it means to be a citizen of Singapore.
@yourstrulypig93
@yourstrulypig93 Ай бұрын
I was born a Malaysian in Singapore (second gen SG PR) and was raised in SG just like any other singaporean. Growing up, I’ve seen how the corrupted Malaysian government disadvantaged Chinese (my Malaysian relatives) and how the country has stopped progressing. Administration was done in Melayu and being illiterate in it has made it a huge pain for me. Meanwhile, Singapore has offered me great education, safety and many opportunities. Singapore is where my home lies and where my family and friends are. I still remember when I was in Pri 5, the school brought me to watch NDP. I cried while singing national anthem as I was so proud to be there and happy for the nation. 2 years later, I performed for NDP and once again, I cried when the national anthem was played. That’s when I realised that my loyalty lies with Singapore. Today, I’m a naturalised citizen and I’m so proud to be a Singaporean, sometimes even more than my native Singaporean husband 😂
@clementihammock7572
@clementihammock7572 Ай бұрын
Last few weeks met a native Malacca naturalized SG. I told him not to waste $1200 monthly for his two kids hefty tuition fee. 😂 Nowadays, Sg education system has many paths, and with much more resources to right the wrong even if one's early years didn't make it for whatever reasons in their school days. In 70s and 80s, then still known as Vocational Institute, many Johorean Vehicle apprentices (now most of them are repair shop towkays) studied evening class here, and many don't even have primary school education. And they treasured the VI instructors didn't look down on them and help to graduate with skillsets and a NTC Level 3 certificate. For those Aircon technicians too, many Malaysian were from STI which offered them solid Aircon Servicing Cert and foundation.. A few had eventually relocated to Australia and Canada having and doing their HVAC trade well.
@marktan8074
@marktan8074 Ай бұрын
I wanna give Tou Chen a hug after hearing what he said
@hoonirene7534
@hoonirene7534 Ай бұрын
Yes! He deserves one!
@weixinyu3346
@weixinyu3346 3 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more with what Hu Jun and Tou Chen mentioned. Both the migrant worker instance during Covid and the HDB and PR application experience that Hu Jun went through really says a lot about how much the Singapore government is doing for its people, just as what the national pledge of Singapore mentioned, “pledge ourselves as one united people”, “regardless of race, language or religion”, and “to build a democratic society based on justice and equality”. I think this is also one of the reasons why we can identity ourselves as Chinese Singaporean and not just Chinese or Singaporean. As Chinese, we have traditional Chinese values that we hold close, at the same time some Chinese practices or traditions have evolved into something that’s uniquely local, and that’s because of our multiculturalism and our unity as a country. For example, Chinese New Year goodies that Singaporeans enjoy such as Kueh Bangkit and Kuih Bahulu did not originate from Chinese or China, but rather from Malay. Nonetheless we identify them with Chinese New Year, and that’s exactly what makes us uniquely Chinese Singaporean.
@rogeretiennedelacruz3000
@rogeretiennedelacruz3000 Ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, I was so touched by Tou Chen's sharing. As we put the difficulties of the Covid pandemic pandemic behind us, a lot of us have forgotten what the migrant workers had to go through. Many of them were infected, and had to go through the strictest of measures to prevent the widespread infection of the virus while helping to build the infrastructure work. The migrant workers were not neglected-, their safety and care were just as important as everybody's. That much I appreciate the government's care for every resident here. Great sharing from the 2 interviewees!
@markjones2781
@markjones2781 11 күн бұрын
Glorious exploration of what it means to be Singaporean. Complex, nuanced and diverse but still, the central message rings through.
@jansg405
@jansg405 Ай бұрын
Lots of PRCs who turned SG citizens do not integrate in Singapore society because they don't see the need as there is quite a number of them here.
@meloon5876
@meloon5876 Ай бұрын
ICA should strictly give out our extremely precious & powerful Singapore citizenship to only those who ARE LOYAL to Singapore, not out for their own selfish or convenient economic gain. Which country needs "citizens" who will fled the moment there is economic downturn or war?
@jansg405
@jansg405 Ай бұрын
Most PRCs turned citizens want to make use of Singapore Passport to jump ship meaning to go to 🇺🇸. The India Indians are like them too.
@mamamallow6027
@mamamallow6027 Ай бұрын
Exactly!! Most of the prc (I read on xiaohongshu often) who keep complaining on spore and even some already new citizens here but they don’t even want to learn national anthem and English to communicate because they always in their own group of ppls.
@jansg405
@jansg405 Ай бұрын
@mamamallow6027 they become Ass**le once they form a gang of their own kind.
@Ersanba
@Ersanba Ай бұрын
HuJun speaks singlish fluently
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Ай бұрын
When you work in jurong your english will change to singlish overnight. Why ? Kopitiam operators cannot understand american english. Why you so like dat?
@TheMandinotan
@TheMandinotan Ай бұрын
Great show Odelia!!! YT suggested me this video! Means you’re on to something!!!
@Cookie-CARE
@Cookie-CARE Ай бұрын
Love what the 2 interviewees shared! 💞💗❤💕💜
@Humorousguy64
@Humorousguy64 Ай бұрын
Very very honest n realistic commitment to be Singaporean...Touchingn
@mikey6538
@mikey6538 Ай бұрын
very interesting interview..
@kennySg101
@kennySg101 Ай бұрын
When given a speech in Taiwan, George Yeo said many young people in Taiwan told me, I am not Chinese but Taiwanese. George Yeo commented saying you are not Chinese is a political expression. U can't choose your race and your ancestry, wherever u are you r still Chinese. Political system in China and Taiwan can change, nationality can change but not race. In George's term. Singaporean Chinese. Taiwanese Chinese, American Chinese.
@jjtop20
@jjtop20 Ай бұрын
But I think the Taiwanese are not wrong. They are ethnic Chinese. But we don't go around telling people we are Singaporean Chinese , Malaysian Chinese. we will just tell people we are Singaporeans or a Malaysian
@kennySg101
@kennySg101 Ай бұрын
@@jjtop20 They claimed that they are NOT Chinese and deny their Chinese ancestry. U didn't get the point. It is a political ideology fight between people across the straits
@dennisleong7866
@dennisleong7866 Ай бұрын
Indeed Covid 19 is a very good case study for Singapore 👍 Singapore really did it very well compared to other countries
@sitiopalarcadesatur5007
@sitiopalarcadesatur5007 Ай бұрын
I admire Tou Chen's response especially in regard to the migrant worker's case. TC's identity and loyalty is to a set of civic values which the SG government embodies and puts into practice rather than to one's ethnicity. This is not to say that ethnicity and culture are not important; they are. But in a modern and multi-ethnic society, one must transcend 'blood ties' in favor of civic values as embodied by a society and its state and government.
@hoonirene7534
@hoonirene7534 Ай бұрын
👍🏼 discussion
@leongyet9896
@leongyet9896 Ай бұрын
Welcome and steady pom pi pi😂
@supreme87878
@supreme87878 Ай бұрын
One people one nation one singapore, that is the way they we will be forever more......
@ct9245
@ct9245 Ай бұрын
Ethnic han chinese is ethnic culture . China or Singapore are both different national culture( nationality )
@amyg1073
@amyg1073 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@zhen86
@zhen86 7 күн бұрын
I am ok with new citizen that do not use loop hole. Malaysian like to ask the wife to get Singapore citizenship while the son and husband remain PR to get BTO. And no PR is still foreigners.
@anrashid47
@anrashid47 Ай бұрын
Wahliao !! Sino Power !!! What about other emigres aaaaahhh ???
@ryanseet8314
@ryanseet8314 Ай бұрын
Gentlemen, thank you for choosing to be one of us.
@chua2237
@chua2237 14 күн бұрын
We are all foreigners here's their grandfather and they are sons of the soil.
@kwekkelvin
@kwekkelvin Ай бұрын
It would be useful if there’s Chinese subtitles for the would be Chinese speaking people from China…
@jessicalang7320
@jessicalang7320 Ай бұрын
This question should be posed to Tou Chen, “what made you loyal to Singapore? Why did that happen in 2011? Why not earlier or later than 2011?”
@Y3llow_Submarin3
@Y3llow_Submarin3 Ай бұрын
need time to be PR then slowly citizenship. not like once you got posted there you get citizenship ma
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Ай бұрын
​@@Y3llow_Submarin3..yalor. also loyalty need time to earn n built up mah. 😊
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Ай бұрын
​@@Y3llow_Submarin3..yalor. also loyalty need time to earn n built up mah. 😊
@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo
@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo Ай бұрын
Thank you MR,👬Ms👱‍♀️👍nice Talking.im from singapore just care my home .🤵🔐🌊🔑🌊🗝🏇📱im look so Less Tiece and Quartet done by tip number .C4,np pure water kaki.not clever person Must Leaning more deep .if book you reading just guide only the pass.🏇
@lynetteleong906
@lynetteleong906 Ай бұрын
Singapore is a place to develop career path and practise professionalism. Must hv a skill and or professional paper qualifications. Yes agreed that ID is Singaporean first rather than ethnicity.
@Minos-Charge
@Minos-Charge Ай бұрын
Disagree with what he said about PRC Chinese culture, PRC has a very different cultural value than ROC and previous Chinese society. Bet he's of cantonese or hokkien descent which the culture is very different from Shanghaiese and the northern culture.
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Ай бұрын
But the women are still the same with big egos.
@jiadong7873
@jiadong7873 Ай бұрын
Lohei exists in some parts of China, I think he really needs to do some research...
@thatone8085
@thatone8085 Ай бұрын
When he went there late ,,it was not there but got law mai kai , har kow and chee chong fun. If he talked some more ,that ex malaysian guy would cry..
@radiosparrow851
@radiosparrow851 Ай бұрын
hopefully Chinese people who respect such choice is not ignored and those who abduct other nationals by ethnicity are not taken advantage of for an internalised racism convenience. after all, respecting how you identify is one topic and white's supremacy is another, which is beyond anyone's control here. 5:30 and the american company Cisco helped china build that first version firewall, just FYI but i guess, it must be well known in such a free world outside china, right? and any comment on that American who kept asking the Singaporean CEO of tiktok if he is Chinese?
@naivoj122
@naivoj122 Ай бұрын
Near chicken, eat chicken. Near duck, eat duck.
@user-ne8yi1io4h
@user-ne8yi1io4h Ай бұрын
No worries brother, Singapore is the second Malaysia. You will just carry another passport.
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Ай бұрын
Hahaha . Hey bro.. Singapore is Singapore not second Malaysia lah. Heehee.
@bc3255
@bc3255 Ай бұрын
Got do NS or not?
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Ай бұрын
Hahaha.... do NS if only u r in the right age group n not all does. Importantly is the solid loyalty.
@jansg405
@jansg405 Ай бұрын
@@limbehh8494 How u know these ex PRCs are truly loyal?
@taipangwong356
@taipangwong356 Ай бұрын
PAPaganda, best country, clearest nation, best food.
@ivancen5020
@ivancen5020 Ай бұрын
maybe what u are trying is also propaganda, just for a different side LOL, cos it seems everything is considered propaganda now 🙂
@myoung1970s
@myoung1970s Ай бұрын
​@@ivancen5020Yes, even effort to get people to eat healthier and exercise to live healthy lifestyle is also propaganda. Good propaganda.
@denisechan5992
@denisechan5992 Ай бұрын
Singapore has no choice but to retain foreign migrant workers as their home country has refused to take them back during the Covid time.
@leewn2319
@leewn2319 Ай бұрын
@@denisechan5992 Sg made the right choice of caring for them instead of forsaking them.
@chitrachannelvlog4822
@chitrachannelvlog4822 Ай бұрын
IF YOU WANT CARS, 2/3 maybe, OPEN SPACE, BIG HOUSES, CHEAP VARAITIES OF FOOD, LOTS OF BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, LESS STRESS , FREE & EASY LIFESTYLETHEN HEAD TO MALAYSIA. i am born Sporean, I miss all the above 🤣🤣🤣
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