Black-pilled

So true …. 😂😂🤣

Until she gets bored of you, sucks another guy's d$#k on the couch, get caught, and STILL takes you to divorce court and gets everything from you. Good job ladies, enjoy your boxed wine and collection of cats when you're all 50 years old and single.....

Well, in my opinion if your "win" is that "you get to pay her bills" then it is not that bad. You can also have false accusations, damaged reputation etc. If a girl starts saying about her man that he is for example emotionally abusing her than usually nobody will confront him with it, he may not know for a long time. So why I would even approach woman I don't know? She may look nice and may give the impression of being friendly at first but it doesn't mean that she won't turn my life into a hell.

And she feels entitled enough to bring nothing to the table expect spreading her legs here and then what is usually also an enjoyment. She feels wanted, she feel that power

You're meant to have the seduction ability to get her to pay for you xd

@@cooledcannon be that as it may it doesnt really have much to do with his point. I understood but thats not really where that was going.

Summarized perfectly

Hear hear!

Unless you say something you know you should not say like nice tits or does your kitty get wet you aren't going to catch a charge. This is a made up myth by incels to make their lack of romantic interactions with women appear to be coming from a place of competence (avoiding sexual harrasment charges). You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning

most women are married to their jobs, cats, and herpes

Plus there's always Thailand!!

"Who hurt you?". lol

I’m 49 and taking an extended break. For me, it was the frequent rejection. It comes in various forms (friendzoning, ghosting, getting dumped, being let down gently, etc) but the end result is the same. I finally realized that unless you are “economically attractive,” dating is pointless. If I ever get more successful, I may get back on the horse.

We do suffer in silence but only until we reach our collective breaking point. And when that breaking point finally comes one of two things usually happens. 1 We either completely give up on society and stop doing the critical jobs that keep society running and just let it fall, OR we f**king snap and turn society into a scene from mad max.

@@killman369547 yep im at 1 waiting for 2 to have fun

When my cheating ex and many women trying to date damaged goods and heartaches galore and incarceration by a woman's accusations and a failed court system that men created is used against them so why bother my cheating ex manipulated me into going into a mortgage for a home only to leave because the paychecks were going into the mortgage and was not happy anymore I lost 😊her and the home because without the combined paychecks I could not make the payments there more to the story but you get the gist lost her the home I didn't want and my mind and my dignity and life has just spiraled out of control from that point one thing I learned when I was with her many ladies of diverse ages were trying to get my attention when we were together wish I would have played that one but I am a one woman man did the bad boy thing and had five ladies at once on my rebound but that was way to stressful when ones just leaving for home the other pulls in the drive way and they passed each other on the same street and I'm like I think I need to quit this behavior because sooner or later there wood be a cat fight or a big drama scene and I got the stuff out of dating all together in don't go out to bars last time I did I cold see through it all and the behaviors of women and men if they are going to bars they are not worth my time damaged goods and hollow legs so I do my things in life I must say truthfully I'm damaged beyond repair I'm 54 soon to be 55 no children that is what kills me the most my genetics end with me and who the hell cares anyway but that's just a tid bit of my failure to multiply

It's just become a bitch section.

Chads and simps still playing the game.

Seeing the statistics - the number of men vs the number of women that aren't in relationships - it appears women are either sharing a man or are in relationships with other women, or both.

Just be more incognito about what you do for work!

​@@GunkleJaja no be honest about Ur job why hide who you are they either accept you or they don't no point in hiding what u do for a living

DW, they will share.

It's only harassment, if she isn't interested in you though. Funny, how that works.

Sad but true. Some women look to trap guys.

It is really truly sad and I feel bad for this emilyking because she seems like a sincere woman, but basically one of the things modern women are going to really have to come to terms with is that you've been LIED TO your whole lives, that you ain't it, your pussy isn't made of gold, you can't use sex to get anything you want, and you let your personality and character atrophy while your sex appeal just spent the previous 10+ years degrading, and so as a result you are now putting off the same vibe and getting lumped in with all these women men wish to avoid. The woman who made this video is a really sad example. I'd pass just purely on account of her being white, blond and blue eyed, and an American accent. I wouldn't even give her a chance. And because she's older there's not much point to pursuing something when even the fun part is gone, for all I know she's going to rant about feminism or wokeness or some dumb shit, you know women should just be careful of politics in general because I've written off white liberals and white Republicans wholesale. The few smarter women like her are beginning to figure out that men walked away, but sadly not yet totally comprehending we aren't just scared of you or nervous, the problem is all the women around you and those women aren't even worth a hookup. It's why trumptards became a thing, ironically enough their racism is being pretty accurately reflected in the liberal women who are now looking down on and talking shit at foreign women, because our resounding answer is no we don't want you, you're old, you're argumentative, you're used, you're bitter, you're ENTITLED, you're meanspirited, you're hyper materialistic and you have no earthly idea how to be a mother or wife. It would be helpful for me to figure out how not to project western male vibes at this point, as you guys are not made of gold either. Simple shit like, don't wear videogame tshirts, wear a nice cologne, wear decent shoes, the most basic things, have a car, have goals, work on a career, don't be a drunk etc. So meanwhile we're not just worried about the harassment, it's a question of is the risk you accusing someone of "almost being raped" worth it for you. For most of these modern women, the answer is a resounding no, girl you're not worth it. Some of you might be worth it but we take one look at all your shitty friends and realize you may be a shitty person too. When you go on a girl's night out, you'll have some guy notice you, and I am going to look straight down the line at all your entitled woman hating friends and within about five minutes I'm going to notice friend A shit talking her ex, friend B shit talking the waiter, friend A then chiming in with her entitled attitude to the waiter too, friend C then makes some condescending classist comment, like you are not worth it purely on account of your friends. If you are a single lady and your friends all are singles, you may need to ask yourself maybe there's a reason for that.

​@@prrsd4046 not sure what you mean, I just got rejected, sometimes told to leave them alone. Getting trapped is something a Chad worries about, they like to keep their options open and sleep with multiple women, and the stupid women, while ignoring me, fall for it everytime! Horrible experience, my attempted dating, I figured if I wasn't succeeding, I wasn't trying hard enough. I figured if I asked out enough women, I would finally get to the one that wouldn't reject me, but it never worked out that way. So much for gender equality, it is very unequal asking a woman out on a date!

@@thomaskalbfus2005 trap, referring to the common methods women use now ex. at gyms when guys look at how they're dressed, bait guys in with conversation only to hang them for their words, etc. Some women get a power trip with this stuff knowing they have low accountability. I should have been more clear in the original reply.

This is very accurate. The idea that a woman might feel unsafe in my presence is absolutely mortifying to me. I will do anything to avoid that even if it means not approaching a woman who secretly would like for me to approach her. I don’t want you to be scared of me, I don’t want you to feel unsafe and I don’t want you to feel bothered. So, I keep away and mind my own business.

Every day, everywhere, women see the news of men abusing, raping, and killing women - daily. Oftentimes for their own sick fantasies. And many were respected members of their community - hard workers, husbands, fathers, brothers, friends. Every day, everywhere. So yes, in the back of the womans mind - after maybe being harrassed throughout the day at various levels by men - here comes another guy and what could happen with this one? Many women, like many of you men, are just giving up too. It's not worth the grief and the uncertainty. And gentlemen, you can thank your fellow males who have done this disservice to your sex. Every day, everywhere...

I'll say "Amen" to that, brother!

all the brainwashed blue pill cowards

A confrontation with another male, yeah I say bring it.

that perfectly sums up why

It’s not illegal to stare

@@ShadamAran

This is not simply bad behavior but an abject failure of Gen X parents and as well as the last 25 years of our broken education system.

Modern women act horrible these days, way too self centered, me me me, selfish and entitled.

How do you get a sexual harassment charge in public? Thats hr policy not a law. Theres assault but you cant be arrested for saying anything unless its considered a threat.

@@BigTyronieGo to Scotland and find out. In Scotland, a woman can press charges against a man for simply looking a her. Mainly her belief that you looked at her too long or the wrong way.

@@WJSweeney I've seen men on youtube comments in America say the same thing that cops have nearly arrested them because some woman lied and said they were harassing them.

@@BigTyronie It happens

I've lost two jobs due to unfair & false claims. The second time, the higher bosses knew that nothing bad happened, it was all proven to be bogus. 'We just feel it would be better to part ways.'

Women do love trashing men's ego.

I hope you find a woman to love you brother. Im single to. Hopefully told are being turned around thru women like this in the video.

If anyone, men or women wants to be in a relationship, they should be part of the process of creating that relationship. Here ends the lesson.

Question for modern women: Why do modern women emancipate themselves from men and seek relationships with men? Do you not see your own contradictions? It is like Slaves who free themselves from their Masters and want to be in relationships with their Masters or children who emancipate themselves from their parents still expect their parents to provide and protect them. Why do you expect men to be traditional gentlemen but you refuse to be submissive traditional ladies? Independent mean alone not together! What idiocy?

I am a mother of four grown sons. My two youngest are high functioning Autistic and so they have trouble just communicating with people in general, so to communicate with a pretty female they like would be even more difficult for them. Maybe one day they may try but I doubt it will be any time soon. However, my two oldest sons who are in their early 30s like women and do have female friends but I do not believe they have ever really dated or taken any real interest in a woman romantically, because of what is your biggest number fear. Women really are their worst enemies. So many times I read comments like parents need to raise their boys to be gentnlemen and it sickens me, because it is like it blames the guys for everything. My first thought to such remarks are why don't parents teach their daughters to be ladies ? Second, why should we teach our sons to be gentlemen when that is not your daughters want. My two oldest sons are afraid to be alone with a woman because they are afraid she wil falsely accused them of doing something wrong and get him in trouble that can ruin his life for ever. I worry about them both in that regards, but with my oldest son more so, because he does freelance photography for cosplay and since most are young females that he photographs then he makes sure ALL photo shoots are done in public places and he is never alone. This so sad that he has to do this but better safe than sorry. It is ONE of my biggest fears to have a son of mine falsely accused of something he did not do all because of a woman said he did. I use to tease my sons about not making me a grandma before I was 50 years old, but now I wonder if they will ever get married let alone have children. With the way this world is... They may be better off not doing either. Sigh

@@littlemissy3936 Vetting Think of your partner's needs/wants before yours. They will reciprocate. Be each other helping hands. Be selfless, not selfish. Let actions speak, not words. Lady's pledge Gentleman questions for Lady on 1st date I am a traditional Sigma Gentleman seeking a classic Beta Lady (Little Dragon Maiden, not Brunhilda)* 18-25 years old. 1. Can you prioritize being a homemaker who loves family and kids over being a career woman? 2. Can you be submissive? 3. Can you be respectful? 4. Can you be humble? 5. Can you be feminine, not masculine, and keep up your appearance? 6. Can you turn a house into a home, attempt to mimic restaurant quality dishes at home and clean so I have reasons to come home? You must say yes to all six questions. Gentleman's pledge Lady questions for Gentleman on 1st date I am a traditional Beta Lady (Little Dragon Maiden, not Brunhilda)* 18-25 years old, seeking a classic Sigma Gentleman. 1. Can you be ambitious and prioritize working to provide and protect me and the kids, if there are any? 2. Can you be chivalrous? 3. Can I trust you to follow your lead? 4. Can you not be abusive and controlling? 5. Can you be masculine, not feminine, and keep up your appearance? 6. Can you find reasons and places to take me and the kids (if there any) out? * The name Brunhilda is a girl's name of Scandinavian, Norse origin meaning "armed for battle." You must say yes to all six questions.

@@littlemissy3936 Excerpts for my upcoming third book (trilogy) Delutional Mindset : The Mind On Life by Saelock Xing Bring traditional back • We all spend time thinking of the past. • Reminiscing of the simple life, wishing it would last. • Females are no longer feminine, acting as ladies anymore. • Males are no longer masculine, acting as gentlemen like before. • Because modern women are masculine not feminine is why chivalry is dead. • They do not take accountability for their choices and blame it all on men instead. • Gender roles are lost and forgotten. • Destroy by feminists seeking equality by becoming men. • Mental dating is modern and involves social media and texting. • Physical dating is old fashion and requires face-to-face meeting. • Happiness is an emotion that is very elusive. • Modern women refuse to be submissive. • Modern women are delusional, shameless, and men hater. • They believe bodies count shouldn't matter. • Relationships should be harmonious, not in conflict. • Submission is not slavery because modern women constantly contradict. • Modern women can not find love because they lack trust. • Modern men can not get respect because they lose their logic and rationality due to lust. • Traditional gentlemen are Sigmas curse to settle with ladies that are Betas. • Traditional ladies are Betas destine for hypergamy with Sigmas but never Alphas. • Focus on the present and bring Yin-Yang Relationship back. • For a lasting relationship, never reverse or identical, only a balance of white and black.

Raisins juice ain't worth the squeeze

Get a passport

Love reading this. I'm 31 and heading towards this direction aswell.

@musicartguy, Not to mention how much drama these narcissists feminists stuck up women are nowadays altogether. MGTOW is freedom.

Fully agreed + SAME HERE !!! Dated some great gals in the past.......annnnnnd they're no longer here / didn't work out. I have zero regrets. People ask me "Why are you still single?" I say "Look at modern Western women and show me what I'm missing?" They shrug shoulders and say "Yeah, you're right". YES there are some really cool women out there, but the 50-something dating pool is rotten and polluted with narcissistic, cell phone-addicted, lazy, wine-guzzling, overweight dumpster fires of drama. I say "Pass. No thanks!"

Nice!! 🤣

😂 nice one.

Sorry about your mother.

@corystarkiller Thank you. She passed all of the sudden.

@@davidgleeson1716 Better than having one that's Narcissist, that ruined your life intentionally to hold on to you and control you.

Same here. I'm 48 years old and have never successfully asked a woman out, and I have asked out more than 200 over the years. I'm socially awkward, and that disgusts women. On top of that, the fastest way to turn off a woman is to be respectable. If you don't have any tattoos, don't use drugs or drink alcohol, take care of your children if you have any, and are educated...forget it. You're revolting to them.

Why waste an hour of your time on a women you don't know and that doesn't like you?. I mean, Is that seriously what you call an emotional scar. You've had a very sheltered life.

​@@redstar7292 🤣As someone who was homeless for a while, typically worked two jobs (at one point, three), funded his higher education on his own (did not receive a penny in grants or scholarships) for two different degrees, your comment cracked me up. Thanks for the laugh!

I hear you, @@christophercrawford777 . While I'm not socially awkward, I would still think that someone with a bit of reason would at least think, "Okay, this guy isn't smooth - but maybe he has some other great qualities. Maybe it's worth 30 or 60 minutes of my time to check out."

@@timothyraty1187 Unfortunately, they won't. Social awkwardness repulses women so deeply that nothing can overcome that. Not even if the guy is good looking, wealthy, successful in other aspects of life, etc.

after working with mostly women in my career, I so glad not to come home and deal with another woman's issues, tantrums, and drama -- I'm worn out --- men never work in a career field where women are the dominant group

To be fair to Ms Emily, #1 and #2 are issues that older men are facing most, at least mostly men over 35-40. While the lower numbers in her list do have some effect on us, they really don't matter compared to the top 2. The lower 8 are fears based off society, the top 2 are fears based of lived-experience.

The money you save really is noticeable. Girlfriends are expensive 😂

Peace is the main thing. Women undoubtedly bring drama and conflict. And beyond that it is extremely difficult to trust a woman in this day and age, knowing how they are and constantly hearing all the horror stories. As a married or committed man you’re basically just waiting around until the day when she loses feelings for you or does something behind your back. Dealing with that kind of pain and stress is very hard on your state of mind. There seems to be many women out here who just don’t understand or don’t care that decent men want peace. We place respect and peace up on a high level. We want to be respected for who we are and what we bring to the relationship, and we are tired of letting these women into our lives and ruining our peace and disrespecting us.

Women are more trouble than they're worth, they are totally self-absorbed, disgustingly self-entitled and look down their nose at everyone while looking like the local Circus Clown --terrible make-up, bizarre eyebrow shaping--thinking they own the world, sorry : No Thanks.

Yup. But, but, but. Men are bigger. So, we need to create laws where multiple tax payer funded armed men show up to commit violence against him with nothing more than an acusation. As if that has not been the norm for centuries with larger families (brothers and cousins). Difference is, brothers and cousins know whether she is crazy.

I get called a creep. Mainly, it seems, because I have been alone my whole life and grew up without people my age being around. Sure I had school, but there's not s lot of social freedom for people in a structured learning environment.

It isn't our responsibility to make sure they are comfortable all of the time. If she's afraid of getting graped in the produce section because of small talk- that's 100% her issue and has nothing to do with you or me.

Ohhh, it gets worse. I've been called a creep for just not being interested in some women.

What you describe is part of "relational Aggression tactics" that women will use, it is about destroying your reputation, isolating you, hurting you emotional and psychologically.

“I just can’t see anything with you.” that means they're not attracted to you. Now why is is that they're not attracted to you? I'd have to meet you first and get to know you. Ask a brother, or an honest and close friend what they think the reason is.

@@plasmabat718 and if they would say what they mean instead of relying on my skills of interpretation, it wouldn’t be an issue. But it seems that no one either has the ability or will to say what they mean in the context of relationships.

Women are too busy attempting to trick dumb men into being their slaves, that half the men they think are dumb are actually geniuses exposing their broken communication skills. It's sad that this is the common woman found in the developed world.

Wasted your efforts.

Damn, brother. I feel you. Just worry about you. Relationships are mostly status symbols(empty prizes).

That's insane man. Hope that coffee shop goes bankrupt.

Hopefully those nasty women will end up reaping what they sow...

No good deed goes unpunished bro. Comments I hear all the time from chicks (50's/60's) are men are trash and somehow we are the problem. Cue laugh track.

the single friends are all lonely and dont want to lose her to a guy

#10.. her circle of hens!

Yeah, she hit the nail on the head. There isn't any deep philosophical reason, no deep seated psychological issue and men aren't 'afraid' or lazy. Very simply, it just isn't worth the trouble. What a man gets for all the mental and financial headache isn't even close to being worth it. When I was married with a stepson I could never get more than a few thousand dollars ahead, no matter how much I worked. I've been divorced for ten years and have hundreds of thousands in assets now. Until I got divorced I had always had a wife or girlfriend. In the ten years I've been divorced I've been on two dates, and on one of them she asked me out and paid for everything. In the last ten years without a wife or girlfriend I'm amazed how peaceful and drama free life is and how much more money I have. I'm in my fifties and to be honest I really don't care if I ever go on another date, let alone have another girlfriend. Marriage is out of the question. There is zero chance I'll ever get married again and risk what I have. Women really screw themselves by making dating and marriage such a headache, because a lot of men realize they're better off without it and just bow out.

@@genxer1 yepp. I'm curious about how long it will take to reallize for women that this doesn't work for them.. I'm kinda really sorry that it has to go this way. Women will become poor if they don't overcome their stupid habits and just F around while they're young.. just fooolish AF

@@genxer1 Hear, hear!! And believe me, many women - at least the smart, introspective ones - feel the same way. Better to be on your own and have that peace of mind and freedom to make choices. We are not all designed for traditional relationships in the classic patriarchal mode - being an outlier is oftentimes the best and safest choice.

correct, a woman will nag you straight into your grave because they are emotionally unstable

I asked a girl out one time and got totally played. She ordered the lobster and a very expensive bottle of wine. She then told me that she needed $100 to pay for the babysitter. Worst date ever.

and $, i have more i need

never now , I' in your same situation and never felt better but be aware , there is can be a witch behinfd every corner.....jocking

i am 40 and i am the same. i have no illusions of ever marrying. how do you think you will live once you are old/retirement? tbh that is the only fear i have. being old and not able to care for myself.

46 years old here too. Started a FWB relation with a 38 year old single mom who is into threesomes with younger women. She is too busy raising her kids to have a relationship, she just wants me for intimacy & adventure, no strings attached. I accomplish things, get satisfied, no gods needed.

@@DanielRumbacher once that happens, i'm gonna check out. i just need to make all the plans so my shit doesn't end up getting wasted/go to ungrateful sources.

This is true a lot of my fear of rejection probably goes back to when I was at school most of the girls there was very nasty especially to guys who they felt the need to ridicule fast forward a few years later I liked a girl who was stunning and probably liked me back and wanted me to approach her but I could never approach her out of fear of being ridiculed or rejected it messed me up

Get a 🐕

I think adopting as a single man is not possible, maybe i'm mistaken.

That is why surrogate arrangements will become more popular

children need a mother, they are not pets to fulfill your void.

​@@macbird-lt8deTell that to women, first.

I’ve been at my current job for just over a couple of years. Even today, there are only two women I’ve ever spoken to where I work, both of them have been from HR, and I never speak to them unless they speak to me first. This is the world women wanted.

That should be # 1.

This should have been number one because any woman can ruin a man's life with just a few words and without having to provide any bit of evidence, the court system will automatically side with her

I don’t even look at them anymore. I’m improving my physique and outshining a lot of guys in my area. Some try to play a stupid game like the fix my pants dance or randomly dropping nothing and bending over to get it. I just take my damn glasses off.

What went wrong is that while you were talking to her she was fantasizing and building you up in her mind to this amazing unrealistic version of a boyfriend, and when she met you in person, no fault of your own, you didn't measure up to the fantasy she had deluded herself with. Unfortunately that's because so many women are immature in the way they think about men and relationships. They have watched soap operas and movies and started believing the nonsense on the screen is supposed to be reality. You're better off.

maybe bear in mind your just talking to them, and you don't know them. It's not anything at that point before you meet actually go out.

@@krisptacocrazy thing soap operas are filled with feminist agendas where they tell the women to leave her man and be “strong independent”! They’re pushing agendas

@@redstar7292 common decency goes a long way. Just say you aren't interested and then do whatever the fuck. Ghosting is toxic without reason.

​@@redstar7292 stop defending bad behavior

yup I work 6 & 7 days a week trying to keep a roof over our head, was by her side when she had open heart surgery . When I was in a bad car wreck she abandoned me.

@@forgotmylogininfo ouch, yeah I hear a lot of that. Sickness and in health, richer or poorer, for better or worse, seems like it only goes 1 way.

Never let 1 person determine your happiness for the rest of your life. There are 3-4 billion women out there. To believe that all of them are the exact same and will do you the exact same is nothing short of stupidity. The strongest thing you can do is try again eventually, never trying again is giving up. Now, if you are not religious at all and/or dont like religion, then you can skip the next part I'm about to say: this is exactly what the devil wants for you. He wants you sad, bitter, incapable of love for the rest of your life, etc. Don't let him win. It's a spiritual warfare out here these days, do whatever you can not to lose it.

Thats on you bro. It sucks but youre putting your worth into someone elses opinion. If one of your buddies was saying this crap youd slap him and tell him to wake up, go buy something cool you wanted for a hobby and move on. Its funny when you’re actively living your life that people are attracted to it.

@@BigTyronie sometimes things like that can be traumatizing for someone. Also if he actually has friends like that, are they really a friend?

... laws heavily favor women [who did not sign a prenup]. I advocate prenups as a way to jointly decide what's fair, in advance, instead of the crapshoot faced when courts decide later.

You have a point.

oh shit

that is why grifters in the manosphere will never understand... this woman... courtney ryan... billy rae... they dont make videos to teach women not to be hoes and entitled but they just regurgitate fresh and fit , rollo tomassi and rich cooper's content and with 0 empathy

I've posted this before. The beef in USA is fortified with testosterone. The oxen get a dose of testosterone injected behind their ears every day. This means that both women and men get male hormones with their daily meat ration. That destroys women. Women get hormonal problems as a result and are masculinized. This disrupts the polarity between man and woman, causing men and women to repel each other. A masculine man will then tend to prefer a feminine woman, for example a vegetarian or an Asian.

This was some group of strange girls on the street, why dislike yourself so much and why do they matter? You get nutters, saying weird things on the street all the time, it's a common occurrence. Try finding some kind of social group, or hobby, where you can actually be introduced to women you might like.

@@redstar7292 I tried those. They only work when your good looking enough for their expectations. Im usualy not... Granted in friend groups they are less rude about it, but still if your called ugly or other look based insult 200 times pluss you start to wonder. The funny thing is that i was selected by females to be their secret lover while they had someone or fwb relationships. They did found me attractive enough or something. I declined these because cheating or fwb isnt my world... The other reason im thinking about MGTOW is because of bad relationships. I have been lied to and cheated on. I also knew gold diggers...

I don't know you, but I have a feeling that you might be able to find a nice women who has the same or similar hobbies as you.

when stuff like that happens to me i dont even look at the ''thing'' in front of me then i make a cross with my 2 middle fingers and point it to her saying ''vade retro Samantha'' and i carry on casually

​@@herlocksholmes9369stop leading people on for the benefit of your kind

I don't know if it's even missing the hints. It's just mixed signals, and mixed signals get downgraded into the least dangerous signal.

no, its a problem with "hints" ITs a complete waste of time. The only person who knows what your "hints" are or what they mean. Is the person dropping them. Even the person who claims to know if someone was "clearly interested" is merely assuming an intention. If you dropped hints to your spouse or significant other she would be just as clueless even if you have been together for years. Because she has no idea what your hints are or if they mean anything at all. Assuming your "hints" mean anything is just childish, and a way for a woman to escape accountability for being dog shit at communication. in her mind it allows her to blame YOU for not being able to read her mind. i.e escaping accountability. Thats the real reason for hints and "subtle signals"

Being expected to be able to read hints is even worse for people like me (I have Asperger's). It's hard enough for neurotypicals, let alone neurodivergents.

My sister once told me “You know, you are breaking hearts all over the place.” I was clueless at picking up the clues.

Nowadays women flirt to get attention Which strokes her ego So how am I supposed to know if a girl is interested? Is she is just flirting to play games? Or is she actually interested? As a man who works a regular retail job and interacts with women everyday I’ve noticed that flirting is a big thing now But when a guy approaches They say “I’m focusing on myself and my career” It’s stupid really

Hollywood men can't even crack the code.

The rate is closer to 2/5, still higher than it should be. I think it's individualism showing its bad side.

You mean like THE MAJORITY are destined to do...

@@jasonreed2116 That number goes up to 90% if they are college educated

@@FlamingCockatiel It's about half, but the higher rate applies to second, third, fourth etc., marriages which have a much higher failure rate. First marriages are about 40% failures. And those who fail, don't learn from that, and so are likely to screw it up again... and again... and again.

I read all that. Agree. I’m a carpenter and a plumber. I love my job because I have engagement with a lot of people in person. Not in technology. I’m newly single (40) looking for a wife, but I’m red pulled as fuck. And have been for a long time. I’m at peace with women’s nature now. I understand it. This generation has failed. Have more happy babies… way forward

That’s rough….

I was never popular in school. I remember being laughed at for finally finding the courage to show an interest in a girl.

It is not that hard. You have interests, some topics are more important to you, some things you are curious about. Being polite and having something to say that is interesting ought to be enough for a normal women so be thankful when you say something that means something to your, if she does not respond, good, she lost out. If she does respond you potentially have an interesting interaction, which with a feminine woman, is very pleasant. I moved out of the US 23 years ago and live where women of all ages tend to be feminine, fit, socially competent, well educated and highly cultured so striking up a conversation with an unknown woman is almost always a pleasant interaction if I have something interesting to say. If there is any mutual interest in a topic it is natural to spend some time talking and exchanging contact information. Women are not afraid of men and are held in high esteem by men because they are almost always pleasant to be around.I have not dated an American women in over 30 years but meet really attractive very feminine women every day, and any age, on the street, in a museum, in a club, at the opera or ballet or just on the a walk in the park.. One of the most common ways of meeting a very attractive women is using my pro grade camera with telephoto lens to take a great photo of her in a relaxed calm state, no forced smile from 50-100 feet away in a park or on the street and show her the image. The reaction to candid un-posed images images that really capture her nature is always positive and I offer to send her the file so it is normal to exchange contact info. Usually I will just approach with something interesting to say about the current location or something of relevance and usually that is the start of an enjoyable conversation and future contacts. But this is a culture where women are valued for their femininity, intelligence and being highly cultured. I never see fat women under 50, in fact I have never seen a fat teen or 20 something. Women enjoy being women and enjoy men who are men. Women tend to be highly educated and often have good careers but always remain feminine. If you take foreign vacations you no doubt noticed the difference if you go to destinations not dominated by US culture. Relax, be yourself, you must have something of an observation that would be of interest to others.

@@stanspb763 Thank you for being so encouraging. Unfortunately, I live and will die in the UK, hot-spot of feminism and misandry, over-weight etc. I think my problem has always been low self-esteem, about which I knew nothing until I was about 40 years old. I simply feel I've never had anything to offer women despite having had a few girlfriends, and during my now ever increasing singleness, those I've met in general have no interest in me, despite my education, solvency and settled and calm nature. For me to sort out, I'm afraid, but the ladies in the UK simply do not make it easy.

@@stanspb763 What country are you describing? Maybe others of us should go there!

Ah agree with the second half of your post. Often I get lonely, but then I remember what it was like to live with women..and i dont feel so lonely lol

Perfect! Yes!

There was a study that concluded that the longer a man stays single, the more he enjoys it.

I must agree with all you guys statements. I’ve been divorced a second time time about 15 years now. Much easier to live by yourself. At age 65 I’ve given up hope. Setting my sights on retirement, traveling and enjoying the rest of my life here on earth. One would like female companionship. But the headache are not worth it. Go your own way guys.

@@brad8868 Right? The liabilities out weigh the benefits!

Why would you even involve your family in your private/dating life in the first place? Your relationship with your family sound extremely unhealthy for both part. You better grow up to be an adult human being!

Buy yourself a beautiful high end silicone companion doll (like I did.). They feel incredibly realistic, are equipped with internal heating systems, internal electronic sensors that allow them to have amazing orgasms, can be equipped with artificial intelligence, etc. You can have an amazing sex life without ANY of the risks of dealing with organic women. You deserve nothing but the very best.

@@andersnielsen6044 That's like a normal conversation to have with your family, and it's generally older relatives who broach the subject. Trust me, no single guy is rubbing his hands together at the thought of burdening his parents with an uncomfortable conversation about his struggles with women. No, parents bring it up even though it has the potential to be a touchy subject because they're actively taking an interest in their kids lives. What's unhealthy is believing that you're such a burden to everyone around you, including your own family, that nobody is going to listen to you talk about your problems unless they're getting financially compensated for it. I pity anyone who feels that way.

@@nathanstroud2223 I could not disagree more.

You gotta kiss more froggs

But without children you have no descendants without descendants you break the genealogical line and you lose the only type of immortality would get in this world

​@@samadams6487a question. is that a theory or a fact my friend. that that is the only immortality🙂

@@shahqurbanbaba1873 there are other kinds of immortality but they don't leave any essence of who you were in our which is your genetics. If you become famous like a writer or a a well-regarded film or theater star that will be remembered a few centuries from now in the vein that for example Mozart or Beethoven is remembered then you will have that kind of memory immortality however the only physical immortality we have is in our children because our genetics is passed down from generation to generation. I have found 6 direct ancestors who participated in the American Revolution at any one of them not been born or killed before they had children then I would not be here. The further back in time you go the more impactful are small changes in the past existence in the present. Each of us is here because everything was just right in the further back in time to go the more right it has to be just to make sure that you are here. Go back 30 Generations in one small change could affect the existence of hundreds of thousands of people so existence is quite a precious thing. What we do here now in terms of reproducing or not reproducing impacts who lives in the future. And it is the future that represents our immortality in the physical sense. Spiritual immortality is a totally different topic and involves theology which I'm not going to get involved in here as those are matters of faith except I will say this that the laws of noncontradiction otherwise known as the principle of the excluded middle apply here. I shall not go further into that statement.

​@@samadams6487 this isn't dragonballz.. immortality? Do u even hear how insane u sound? I bet u believe in Dragonballs as well. Unreal lmao. Ppl really need to get over themselves. If u wanna chase pussy to have kids and claim it's all about "immortality' fine...but stop spreading bullshit propaganda. U sound like an agent from the Matrix. most ppl are not gonna be famous songwriters and athletes and actors...your whole defense is fallacy

​@@shahqurbanbaba1873 good one.. Avoid us at all cost..we are men's destruction not their salvation.

The damage is by design. Feminism isn't for equality, in spite of all of the claims. Feminism is about superior rights, but mostly about destroying the family and making women dependent on the state so they'll vote for more marxism.

What fixed it for me, was learning how to spot women who ARE interested in me. There are numerous books out there now, which explain the body language and behaviors to look for, and it's decreased my strike out percentage to almost zero. It takes a while to get used to paying attention to their behavior as opposed to just looking for the woman who looks the best, but in return, I wind up with lots more dates. AND... you don't ask for dates. You ask them to come along with you to someplace fun that you're going to anyway. Either: She says yes, or if she's busy asks for a rain check if she is interested in you, or declines. If she declines, she's likely not interested, but you go anyway, and the next time you see her you tell her what a great time you had, and always make sure you get a picture of yourself with a pretty woman there, even if it's a worker (just make sure that no one can tell that she works there); that provides social proof that you were worth getting to know, by another woman.

​@@d.e.b.b5788what books do you recommend

@@d.e.b.b5788 What book??????

@@moemanm1202 Start with Leil Lowndes 'undercover sex signals', then the charisma on command/demand series of videos and/or books, there is so much information out there which guys simply seem refusing to learn, because they can't be bothered to read or watch. Far too many men just want magic pick up lines, which don't really exist. Read and learn. Or stay alone and keep approaching women who either aren't interested, or are already taken. Like anything else, it takes studying the problem, to learn how to overcome it. I did the above, plus took dancing lessons; why? Who do you think is watching all those dancing with the stars shows?? WOMEN. You can learn how to be the charming guy that women want; it doesn't have to be limited to those who are naturally just charming by nature. It CAN be learned.

Same here bro. I’m 23 and I’ve no luck. They are never interested back, so I just gave up. I just be living life now, focused more on my hobbies and trying to make other sources of income

@@sithlordshaun_ It's ok. just rent a vagina once in a while if you need to.

@@sithlordshaun_ and as is tradition - I will post a comment about me being under impression I had bad luck, when I was pulling one - two possibly wife material per year ( not all were interested after time but it seems as good luck now after all comments I saw ). That being said, you do a good thing, if unicorn comes, wont be when you expect it and usually via hobby or sth.

I think about how many men's lives were wrecked and families ripped apart by thinking they had a wonderful wife they could built a life with. Men are not allowed to be victims of anything in our society.

@DuaLeaD It's a pretty sad reality. Women will cheat, and most people will support them without even checking in on the man. For me, the cherry on top was my ex's best friend, who is married to my former best friend, was friends with me for 14 years and knew me before my ex, and is a serial cheater, said I was ridiculous for fighting for 50/50 custody of my daughter. Hard times really do show you who your friends are.

@@JeezyInTheHouse That is unreal that a 'friend" would say something like that

@DuaLeaD Absolutely. Especially when you consider she has her own issues with her husband taking care of their kid. The easiest friendships I ever had to cut out of my life. But also thankful in that they made me more vigilant in who I allow into my space.

"I just don't feel like wasting another 5 years of my life just to get cheated on the minute things get a little hard." don't men get cheated on when things get a little soft?

Oh no no they weren't "dating losers" they were "finding themselves" now they realize chad isn't interested anymore so they go looking for nice guy backup they all thought they were guaranteed to get only to find they're taken or have gone full RP/MGTOW & are no longer interested.

Maybe they wanted exciting, read bad boys when young. Then once up the diff, they want a nice guy wallet.

It sounds to me like they got experiences over the years. And when they saw their partners wouldn't be worth taking home to their parents they remembered the good guys they met in the past. I doubt you were the only guy who got a message. Now about the shock factor I assume they all thought women would be sluts of sorts until they got older and got hit with reality. And about the disappointment well they must have been very arrogant to believe you would't get over them years later. You dodged a bullet with these girls.

I think you chose badly in the US. Great that things worked out in the end, I'm just saying, if you pay attention to the women that aren't worth your time, you'll be able to filter out and get better ones. Either way, that's great that shit turned out for the better anyway.

Every woman is ready to settle down. That statement means not with you. And im not knocking you, whichever one of you glorious bastards said it, but rather illustrating their mindset. If youre a guy who works with his hands, you know mileaukee and dewalt make great cordless tools. Milwaukee is bougie and dewalt is good but just honest, reliable, easy to use tools. Both great things for different reasons but the same purpose. Now imagine going into harbor freight and having to find a cordless impact. Youre going to look quickly and from one option to the next. Youll get disgusted and leave with a “im just looking. Not interested in buying” when the store clerk asks if you’re interested in anything. Thats women evaluating men. Chris Hemsworth and Dwayne Johnson are the desired outcome. The rest are just bargain, second rate tools.

With a hidden balloon payment at the end.

Men in the USA, Canada, the UK, Germany, Ireland ( there are government sponsored anti' MGTOW TV advertisements) Australia and New Zealand are in a situation where if they get married they immediately lose half their money instantly. If they have children they lose up to 80 %. Why or why would you sign a Contract that's a stacked deck ?

I think the modern Western woman publicly plans her wedding while at the same time privately plans the future divorce.

Do not talk bad about prostitutes. Those are the only women who treat you fairly nowadays. Any man who has not figured this out already is pretty dumb. It's much cheaper and better for your (mental) health to only deal with Pros. No disappointment, no false hopes and always a girl you find hot.

That too Hookers are better at what they do and they're better listeners. So the usual modern woman making a whole list of demands and being told her whole damn life her P**** is gold and to just lay there like a fish is in for a rude awakening. Wow just got to emilywking talking about dating hahaha oh no you wish it was some short term thing, there are many of us who are sick and fucking tired of being used for sex or money and so we've dropped out up to ten years or more, it's better, it's happier, it's more peaceful and it is more stable. Men look for stability in relationships. Fuck that. Imagine having to do all this run around just to get used, and she's not even offering stability and inner peace. The last two points this woman made is absolutely right, we take one look at you and make a snap judgment you're not worth it. It's the part that really hurts for older women I bet but it's true, you guys are giving off strong "I grew up calling men creepers" vibes or tiktok instagram girl vibes, or gold digger vibes, and any foreign woman who is looking for a Western guy is making a terrible mistake acting like these people. If you put off "I am also like these entitled modern white women" vibe he's going to walk. They treat a relationship like they're a high end escort who won't shut the fuck up. Understand, I am talking about women who will straight up insult you, you agree with them you need to change that, but because it's also something they hold a double standard about (like "you're right I need to lose weight") they will proceed to argue with you for thirty minutes or an hour after insulting you for your weight why "every weight is normal." I timed it. Imagine the patience you need to listen to some woman insult you and then browbeat you for 30 minutes because you agreed with the point she made that you need improve yourself. THIS is why we all took ourselves out of the dating pool and I think these women are making a terrible mistake in assumptions by looking at us too, you're probably seeing guys that are or should be "socially intelligent" or men who are attractive, or guys that put off a badboy vibe, and we are so sick and fucking tired of modern women and modern non-relationships and being used that we bailed on you entirely. I think women are making some mistakes thinking it's just ugly short fat guys that bailed. No we all bailed on you. So to point 9 and 10, yes, you have to keep in mind how many women he's been run through, and if he got ran through by either one woman he really trusted and adored, or gave multiple women a shot, odds are he already pulled out of dating completely and the only reason he even glanced at you was he thought maybe she's different, picked up on something you didn't even know you do, and got rejected. Men reject women by either not approaching them, or by letting themself coast along in a relationship they know is wrong without ending it themselves. Modern women don't want to take personal accountability so I feel like a ton of them are not getting yeah, it really is you. And if it's me, and not just you, then you're putting off some single like you're taken (there are many reasons guys won't even approach you, either they are former fuckboys who don't want that again, have respect for other men, or see any woman who cheats as a horrible idea so if he's thinking you're not single only fuckboys are going to approach). If you are a foreign born woman, the most likely explanation is he is either still pulled out from dating, or you just did something that reminds him about modern women, or your friend circle is too many modern women with septum piercings, lots of tattoos, "I'm a baddie" IG/tiktok girl attitudes, basically your friend circle is pulling guilt by association. Even if they're not white girls, if they put off strong modern woman vibes, he's not going to even bother approaching you if you come off as being not single, prone to being offended, because you're sending mixed signals, or most importantly because he just made a snap judgment you're probably like the other girls around you.

You sound like a real Gentleman. So many women lost the chance to have a genuine man, like you, in their lives!

@@ashplv663If you respect a woman you should be respected in return. If any woman disrespects a man by manipulating him on his back, then that woman has deep personal issues and usually it is her bad upbringing by her parents. And yes you are 100% absolutely right, women missed their chance on a genuine guy like myself since 2014. I now have 100% of being politely rejecting women. Boy have the tables turned with power and control over women now that I am not interested in women, I can see how women are sneaky and smarter stalkers than men but I learned their tactics and most of these women stalkers think I am the typical stupid guy who isn't aware of it.

If you can spell one and not the other, then the other is the worst word.

@@WTIV Except the other word has more darker and more deeper consequences that can get a guy fired or put to jail and on top of that having security people stalking you even though he is been innocent throughout. Also petty harassment from her coworker friends by making judgement comments behind his back despite being manipulated by their own female friend.

indeed, and problably she was looking lie shit.

That does not surprise me at all. Before you brought up the sexual harassment I was expecting to see that.

W T F

Sorry for your loss bro

@@garmisra7841 Thank you.

Next you are going to tell me that men have desires that matter to women and society. Gynocentrism is the religion. Narcissism is the mindset. Men are disposable.

"Didn't you see me look at you." Great, once again men are supposed to understand without being informed.

You dodged a bullet brother. She was playing games with you. She would've humiliated you and you would still have to work with her

@@Tinseltownintherain-zd7ep could be correct on that one.♥️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@@lewisdean22 she would have made her move long before she left if she was genuine. Or went home and bragged to her pals how she messed with an older guy's head. and if you have to work with her again she's waiting to see how you react to the seed she's planted and see if you jump through her hoops to give her validation and ego massage........could be wrong brother. Maybe I'm too cynical. But my gut says "Danger Will Robinson"

@@Tinseltownintherain-zd7ep many thanks for your reply, lucky I won't have to work with her again, it was a one off. But you raised some really interesting points, and I know not all women are like this. ♥️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

And here's the problem with this that women don't understand. Let's say women improve this year 20x better. You wouldn't know because you left the game. Once men leave, that's it. They aren't coming back unless something astounding happens. It's too late. That would be like the restaurant you stopped going to because it was disgusting. If they lowered their prices and began serving fabulous food, you'd never know because you don't go there anymore. Women are Bud Lighting themselves. Men are leaving, with no intention of coming back. Certainly a man who has been divorceraped by what he thought was his loving wife would never want to get married again. It's not worth it. And these divoceraped men are going around telling every guy they see about what they went through. This is happening at multiple levels.

@@protorhinocerator142 That restaurant analogy is spot on

@@protorhinocerator142 I don't date anymore, nor do I eat at restaurants these days.

@@hikikomori_trader The restaurant was analogy. You get the concept. If you did still go to restaurants, you would avoid the bad ones. I won't eat at a Shoney's. It never ends well. This is like dating in 2023, only the women won't tell you up front they're a Shoney's. They advertise themselves as an amazing pizza joint or BBQ pit. But then you get there and you see runny eggs in the breakfast buffet trough. Another Shoney's...

Men have left the game, and the game was getting beat down over and over. Men have feelings and women assume they don’t or deserve getting slapped.

Duly*

A woman*

Approaching women in groups when you're by yourself is essentially social suicide. Women already have their guards up when men approach them, so if you approach a group, you are now in a situation in which multiple people are likely to have their guards up, which creates instant tension. A woman's friends then become likely to pull her away because they think they're protecting her. And since many women care more about their friends' opinions as opposed to their own, they'll listen to their friends regardless of how they feel about you. Furthermore, if you make it clear that you're interested in one, the ones you're not interested in take it as an insult to their egos and cope by being rude to you or trying to pull their friend away. No matter how handsome, smooth, or charismatic you might be, the second fact puts you in a position in which the woman's friends might be rude to you and/or pull her away. So you're basically at the mercy of the friends. And ugly friends are pros at this because they're used to pulling their more attractive friend away from men all of the time. The best way to mitigate this is to approach with a wingman to distract the friends and make them think they're the object of interest as well.

They ARE jealous

This is rough and absolutely happens.

MGTOW 4 me.

When I was younger I was invisible to women. I didn't meet their standards. Now I'm in my sixties. Never had an STD. Haven't been accused of fathering any illegitimate children. I didn't know it at the time, but women were doing me a favor. I am retired with a healthy income that no one can lay any claims to.

Love is always conditional, and most desired when there is options for the partner. You might think you loved her unconditionally but there were conditions, that you expected her to reciprocate. You were too easy, no challenge for her, which would be established if you were somewhat vague and more careful about expressing it. You seem to have believed in the fairytale sort of love of romance novels so she lost respect for you. She needs to feel she needed you, being more stoic would have caused her to seek your attention and validation. You gain nothing being her girlfriend, which you created that image of yourself. Sure, be steady and dependable, but show less emotion if you wanted her to respect you. Your greatest gift she could give you was respect, and you through out that option by turning to your feminine nature. Being her rock and confidant is not possible when you express it in behavior and words as a girlfriend would. Instead of aligning with her feminine you needed to be the opposite, what she needed and would respect. She might want to be entitled but when it does not serve your relationship, someone has to be the adult, and she would have responded if you set boundaries for her. Those are tests women naturally create to see if they can depend on you. Saying no to inappropriate demands is a sign of true caring and she would have responded. If you did not set boundaries, a female becomes less secure feeling and she will keep testing until you respond in ways she respects, or loses all respect. Women are not softer males, they are a different nature, which makes sense when seeing the larger picture of the purpose of her relationship with is seeking security to raise the next generation. Even if a woman does not want kids, her nature that evolved over millions of years to being the most successful set of traits to have a new generation survive. It is a good thing she tested you, but not a good thing how you assumed declarations of unconditional love when she naturally was seeking tests of your support and security needs. Saying yes to unhelpful demands triggers fear, even notions of flight. Rocks do not yield to emotional tests. Although women in times of highly civilized societies think they do not need men, their inner nature is still programmed from a million years ago and that conflict makes it hard on women and they do not know why they feel insecure when still having external control in modern society. A women who feels protected, responds by true feminine love. Much of that sense of security is her man setting boundaries that appeal to that natural security seeking. She got scared, emotional and insecure when you made such undying love statements as if you sought her love. She already had that love for you but you killed it by being passive and needing her love. You scared her away by not knowing her nature was a test. There are other women out there who will test you also, and success of the bond hinges a lot on whether you respond as a girlfriend or her rock. Masculinity is seen as toxic now but women brains are still wired to respond positively to masculine men.

Women and children are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved as long as we can provide resources.

They bring the parts you like.

Similar boat. The women I have been attracted to and spent time with have 4 out of 4 been emotionally unavailable. One still in love with her committed dance partner, one married to a guy in early stages of dementia she is representing as longer stages, one who is completely emotionally unavailable and one who was a narcissist and wanted to play the field. I hear all these complaints about can't find a good guy, and I don't find a line of great gals lining up for a great guy either.

@@TaylorWalston You two don't make this sound promising. Gosh I hope I get lucky some how.

I started dating my now ex-wife in 2015. Back then the dating scene was getting undesirable. I heard horror stories and was glad I was married. Now that I'm recently divorced in 2023, and "in the game" again, I have little desire for any of the garbage or the game. Yes, I would like a (good) woman who treats me right. But it just doesn't seem worth it to go thorough all of the hoops and hidden landmines just to maybe get faked out again when I find one that supposedly loves me. One day I do hope to find that fabled "good woman", but until then I just want to focus on my relationship with God, getting healing, and improving myself. One day it will happen, God willing, but not today.

@@JoeSmith-gb4ng You would be basing the marriage on luck, not love. The amount you love her does not necessarily equate to the amount she loves you. Women can put up a great act like they love a guy, but as soon as she gets her divorce ducks in a row, she suddenly doesn't love you anymore.

@@protorhinocerator142 You misunderstood my post. I was saying I hope I get lucky in finding a good woman. Like Michael, already been done the marriage road.

I’m definitely reason number 2. Lol.

yout didn't miss anything, but she missed one: "he just isn't attracted to you, or doesn't like you at all."

The best thing you can do is go bust up that huge gang. Start asking questions. Work group? Half of them pretend to be friends. Some outright dislike others. The one youre interested in you should see what she says about the other girls. If she says “heather wore that shirt because i wore a similar outfit to xyz function and got lots of attention. It doesnt really fit her body type.” This is probably a hotter girl crapping on a less desirable one to signal “im good looking”. This chick is going to be seeking validation from every weiner she sees. Run. In a group of ten, 2 might be acceptable in terms of personality, confidence, submissiveness, etc. Gotta stop being scared of these insecure frikkin creatures. The hotter the more insecure

Its interesting that she knows about mgtow.

@@robstr12 It's publicly known now. Msm label it a "right wing extremist movement" and are trying to hijack it. Every guy laughs in derision and scorn for MSM's lack of comprehension ability of the English language.

I have also watched a video where this lady with almost 1 million subscribers giving advises to women for relationships. She stated "date different men at the same time, keep your options open" half of the comment were ladies approving, the other half were men disapproving....

That's most women. They think you're good for the moment until someone better comes along. They will only stay if they think you are the best guy they can get and keep.

You think that's bad? I had a woman tell me she's married and as I walked away she said "that's temporary, marriage's aren't forever." She literally said this to me. The combined horror and revulsion was overwhelming.

@@funkfarmer7125 Wow.

I often wonder that too. women treat men as a luxury. I've never understood why women stay in "temporary" situations and then have the audacity to complain about men being horrible

Same, my ex didnt see me when i was injured and almost paralyzed. Another ex took my kids from me. And when i use to date, women would use me for food dates and ghost me. Completely done, and thank god im making the most money ive ever made now so im enjoying life by myself. It is what it is bro.

'she was only fishing for the ask to stroke her own ego as she smiles and walks away happy' - that's the norm these days. Women go to great lengths to bait me to ask her out, they'll pretend they have certain feelings/attraction, she'll drop very strong hints, and as soon as I ask her out, she ghosts. And women wonder why they're lonely. Yes, because we don't trust you to not waste our time. Don't come on to us if you've no interest.

I feel your pain, it's taken me 5 years just to feel normal after a horrendous experience. People don't see the psychology abuse us men can receive from women. I'm still many years away from feeling strong enough to consider dating.

No mystery that the event's that precede a woman's exit from a marriage is loss of a job or development of a serious illness physical or mental. They initiate divorce 90% of the time, and it's either for those reasons or they found a better option.

Totally agree.

@@funkfarmer7125they initiate divorce because 90% of the times they are not fully into the relationship. They always keep a foot out…you never know… while men when they are in love give everything. Plus they have many reasons for getting married that have nothing to do with love/marriage.

They realize, and that's their goal. They don't care

I call those guys “beaten dogs”.

I have seen the same thing. I wish I would have had more empathy for my father. He passed away at 50.

Burnout definitely hits home. Some days you just don't want to hear another variation of "no."

@@josephbarnes2681 It's not just you. I don't usually get rejected come to think of it, I have a hard time gauging what I look like but after spending a few months on here listening to this I am realizing women openly flirting with you is probably something pretty rare. I thought it was modern women being modern women. Which btw, meanwhile as they're chasing off and being abusive to other guys, there's another set of us who probably are attractive (I'm guessing? These women I just realized probably make a whole series of assumptions on an attractive guy and no, it's not even about game, it's about perception and what we are after) and we are also tired of it, because it's really alienating and degrading dealing with these fucking people. They'll lie to your face, cheat on you, give you no reason to trust them, and then be bitchy. I think the top 20% of men are also tired of their shit so what these women don't realize is first of all how you treat the guys you see as nerdy or average WILL piss us off (if you see a guy being a dick to a fat girl? You know that icky feeling you get when a man is picking on an insecure woman? Guess what that's exactly how I see you no matter how pretty you are, it makes you ugly as a person) and meanwhile it is really shitty feeling like a woman is looking at you like a sex object. I just wrote that out and read it back and realized no, no this is definitely not the average guy's expereince is it? I think I figured something out today. Anyway so point being, you're also dealing with guys who you do want that are sick and fucking tired of being looked at like a dildo attached to a wallet, and it's alienated and degraded enough of us we're not giving you the time of day. So all that's left in some areas is guys that are cool with being used as warm sex toys because that's literally all you are to them. And I imagine this hurts like fuck and really makes you feel degraded and used but keep in mind that guy probably already had a whole string of women cheat, lie, give him trust issues, not listen to him, even if he is attractive white women have such shitty attitudes that by the time you show up he himself is pretty busted and used. It can happen even with just like 2-5 sex partners, where you're finally so tired of dealing with modern materialistic women, who're just trying to get something out of you, we walked off. I'd point out that yes, as a man it's extremely degrading being used for sex. NO, we don't all like it. The sole men that like this either are so lonely and insecure they'd be cool with being abused, or they're using YOU for meaningless sex and are throwing you away like a used condom next week. It doesn't get pointed out enough we DO know instantly when you are looking at us like you're trying to get sex out of us, and the only guys that go along with it who are not fuckboys are those sadsacks without enough sense of dignity and self respect to walk away and instead keep fucking you because at least he can "try to make it work." Women need to rethink their entire approach to dating and maybe that's what these MRA tards mean by "masculine" is the female strategy around guys they like is absolutely to act like a player and it's a huge turnoff. So in other words what I am saying is that guy you want to say yes and raise your kid? Sorry we resigned, go ask the guy you said no to.

I hear you brother dealing with them of today is exhausting.

​@@pandemicneetbux2110stop cursing its a sin.............

I think that may be a real indicator of like though, I'm thinking of one situation in specific where I actually saw her as viable, but between her being around friends that came off as picking up Western woman vibes (even though are themselves not Western girls), her hot/cold thing that remind me of drunk people's emotional lability, and coming off with a distinct impression she was taken, I stuck to myself and just kept working on my own spirituality and getting myself staying more substance free. I'm drinking coffee right now so I've been having a hard time of that but at least I don't have any alcohol or nicotine in my system in over a year and you know what? I don't even miss my drunk friends. This is something these women need to discover for themselves, it's not just about loyalty, it sucks saying this because loyalty is so appealing and such a big important part of things for me, but I had to ghost my entire friends group. Far as I know they're all still drinking and hanging around bars or doing their own things. I've lost a lot of weight, gotten more fit, I don't drink, smoke, or eat meat now, and it's probably already opened possibilities that I don't know about. But at the same time I have to ask myself does she smoke, does she drink, does she maintain these absolutely toxic disgusting secular materialist and man hating attitudes etc. I think women need to be either very direct or very consistent, if you're hot and cold odds are he's going to walk away. You're eventually going to come off as a threat or a woman who doesn't know what she wants, or you're going to reinforce some idea he has of you being taken.

Bottom line message to the ladies: If you become a royal P.I.T.A. we will ghost you. Men don’t seek out a woman to make their lives more difficult, complicated, expensive, and miserable - DUH!!!!! 🧐

OMG. So sad - but I don't really blame you...

Yup, that's about right. I thought I was the only one dude doing that

Prolly not a great idea to express an addiction to pornography at any point. Otherwise, good on ya

@@karmad.twelve6613, Oh, I wouldn't call once or twice a week an addiction. Hell, I wouldn't call once or twice a day an addiction. It only takes five or ten minutes, and then it's back to whatever I was doing before that. It's not like I have ask what it wants to do for dinner, or how it's day went, and it never asks me to take the garbage out, or if it's really necessary for me to smoke weed this weekend, or have a beer for lunch. I find it releases stress and I'm way more tranquil and productive. Not to mention that I have way more money. Yeah, I'm definitely not addicted, but if I'm wrong, I wish all addictions were this beneficial. I'd aquire a few more. As it is, I really need to quit smoking cigarettes. Theyre not beneficial at all...

Robert, I agree with you on all your points and reasons. I might also add that sexually, FOR DECADES NOW, society has made sex ONLY about the woman's orgasm. You're supposed to have all this friggin' "confidence" and "automatically know" what she wants, (you're not supposed to ask, of course) and if you DON'T give her some screaming orgasm you've failed. Women and men have both gotten the message it's about the woman's orgasm and nothing else. Sooo, I've opted out of even trying. Having to wonder and worry, "am I doing this right, am I doing that right...?" Screw that. This is a big reason massage parlors are thriving like never before for regular income men, and high-end 'escorts' for rich/wealthy men.In both cases, you have men that just want to be serviced and would rather pay a monetary price than mental/emotional/psychological, etc.

Eddy Murphy did a skit about this in the 80’s. I’m only 31 and even I have seen the Raw bit where the woman from another country turned all westernized. Look it up, it’s definitely on KZfaq.

I'm not far behind you, only by a few years. I don't even bother with trying to initiate anything. Only time I get out is being involved with ham radio clubs' activities or to eat out, sometimes solo or with a couple of buddies. If I want female time, I'll "rent" one for the evening. And I joke around with the "rentees" with the "dirty old man" reference. Or I'll call it the "dirty old pervert". They know I'm just making light of the situation which puts them more at ease, and they do flirt a little more. I know they are there just for the $$$. A few months back I heard this: "Pros are rented, girlfriends are leased (she's not your girl, it's just your turn), and wives are financed."

I just reached 50 and found the super cute girl in the local Pret-a-manger food shop I go to. I will say she is in her late 20s or early 30s. I was always super conscious when she served me and her colleague noticed the way I looked at her when the cute girl wasn't looking. She actually then started smiling at me and was friendlier but always referred to me as "Sir" so I kind of never dared to ask her out or even chat her up. She has left or been rotated out to some other unknown Pret-a-Manger. I kind of regret not trying now and still go to the same shop hoping one day she will return. Can't guarantee that even if she returns I will dare to ask her out...haha