Why? Because he was a creation of the Mishima zaibatsu and wanted revenge.

Mainman dying little inside while recording this video.

i alway hear mainman talk about how Steve is one of the best characters, and i im sitting here, just promoted to initiate xD

Steve is pretty much a Counter to everyone tbh

Man, I wish his story arc leads to him to actually becoming a Mishima enemy. At this point, he's still stuck somewhere between being Nina's bastard kid, being Larry to Law and Paul's Moe and Curly, and being an experiment with a history with Emma Kliesen, Leo Kliesen's mother.

me: plays Kazuya Opponent: Plays Steve Me: I guess I'll take a demotion

Mishimas excel in the Mid-Range where they can back off for a whiff or close the distance with 50/50s or Electrics. But against Steve.... you won't have any room to breath or any time to setup your gameplan.

Given his backstory and possible ways he could get involved (being a subject for devil gene Experiments) this just fits too well.

Fantastic video MM, your last several videoson Steve have made me pick him up and I am loving every minute of it. Any new content with Heera Malik or any Steve is much appreciated, keep up the good work. :)

Feng is an excellent counter Steve character

I always said that Kazuya lacked a parry move for this kind of situation, but perhaps they should just only have left the f2 (Soul Thrust) as the sabaki parry it was and not turning it into a useless power crush.

Another thing here that I wanna mention, as I’ve recently picked up Steve, and that I didn’t see main man doing here, is when you get into his sway cancels his pressure just gets that much more nutty.

Really helpful info! Didn't know how to deal with Mishimas. This gave me a lot of insight :)

Tekken:only FGC community who doesn't spam the word godlike Mainman: a godlike KZfaq video

Seems like Heihachi would do a little better than Kazuya since he's got a punch parry that launches and good pressure.

I learn a lot of things from you,especially about steve.Thanks man 👊

A video explaining all the characters counters can be interesting.

Sorry for being rude to your main hahaahaha

i think this was very helpful for me, thank you. steve is my fav since T5.

8:30 so true. To this day I don't understand how arslan ash was able to do a slow kazumi ws2 to punish a ducked b1.

Lol This gave me flashbacks to Nin(one of the best steve players) back in the days of Tekken 5 DR and Tekken 6.

Great video mainman

Are you on a campaign to get steve nerfed yet again? Any of the tekken developers watching this and getting ideas, stop it you damn mishima cultist 😂

I would say the real problem I found facing Steve (with Kazuya) was and is you can't condition the Steve player to not use df2 because of not having real good and fast pokes, you can learn to face the b1 and being patient can kill steeve quite a bit but conditioning the Steve not to use df2 I found it the hardest

I feel like heihachi has an easier time against steve fox compared to the other mishimas simply by having the raijin stance (forward 3+4). I've also found success with db 1+2 as it crushes highs as well as a number of mids. Mind you, this is against my friend, and neither of us are even close to average players lol.

TMM is wrong about Alisa being bad match up for Steve - its the opposite. Steve has arguably better pokes, b1 is better CH move than Alisa's standing 4 due to much quicker recovery on whiff and better frames on block, Steve can punish heavily Alisa's lows which are normally much safer vs other match ups(db3 -12 on block, FC df1+2 -11 OB, DES d1 -12 OB), Alisa relies heavily on block and whiff punishment and good luck with that vs Steve... Also what are those "easy high crushes" Alisa supposedly has? In fact i would say Alisa is below average when it comes to high crush options.

@TheMainManSWE Do you have a link where you post your Steve's staple combos? I want to learn it.

If you play jin you can use a punch counter d+f+1+2. Doesn’t do much damage but it keeps him from pressing stuff.

Tbh in a real fight situation, Steve has the most realistic moveset.

VERY intuitive!!

Very insightful.

I play Steve, and this video makes him seem god like. He’s not, with a straight forward gameplay, ppl jus duck the whole game. He has very few lows, with just mids and highs, he can’t easily launch like other players. Everything and a combo a Steve gets is earned, relying on Counter hit. Not a easy character at all, and deserves respect.

That pkb 121 does crazy damage for a 3 hit string

is this the same applied to dvj? (the regular jin is also the exception cuz cbm said steve is the worst match up of jim)

It has nothing to do with b1 being 1 frame faster than electric. It’s just that Steve excels at lockdown gameplay and is really safe doesn’t take risks. Meaning the primary strategy of mishimas (inducing whiffs with movement) is made almost obsolete. That’s on top of Steve himself having amazing movement with his stepping and backdash

I honestly love fighting Steve cuz since I know hes always safe I dont worry about punishment I just time a party with feng and launch him for full combo since I know he ain't gonna kick or shoulder or elbow me. It's simple to destroy him

i love watching steve players

If Steve b1 beats your 50/50 mix ups then you just fucked up your read and didn't need to go for a 50/50 at that time. The whole point of the 50/50 is to open up defensive players who hesitate or backdash too much. It's not supposed be used vs people who mash keepout moves.

So he was created in a lab using Nina’s egg and who’s sperm? Heihachi was leader of the zaibatsu at the time so I think to make a super soldier he would honestly use his seed. Steve is possibly a Mishima I think and that would explain why he’s strong af.

What's the general consensus on Paul vs Mishimas? Good or bad matchup?

'and does whatever to pressure the 50/50' ** does accidental 71 damage while standing combo?**

2:00 This is wrong, you can dash into PEWGF. You need to do your perfect electric with f, d, d/f+2, only the mist step variant doesn't work.

Great vid. Do more counter videos

Steve is my main I struggle with the dance type of character

I HOPE YOU ARE ALSO DOING AWESOME MAINMAN!!! 🥊💀❤️

kazuyas strength is punishment, whiff punishment and 50/50 but he has average to mediocre pokes steve is extremely hard to whiff punish if they are patient, he isnt really unsafe on block and b1 and df2 hinders the movement kazuya needs to come in at range to start the 50/50 steves weakness is that most of his lows are trash and he lacks range. against a person that turtles and backdashes his stances and walls out his pokes he suffers. constantly having to dck/ stance cancel to keep safety while being at a disadvantage. in frames hes safe but has gaps in his offense. a person that knows frames and pokes well can blow him up while turtling. kazuya winning this matchup has to be mad patient.

Steve is really fun :D

Steve has the best counter hits an tekken periodt

I think the hellsweep should be high crush. I only say that because I compare them to Lars’ SE stance. Lars’ head is literally hugging the opponent’s knees and you can still get jabbed out of it :/

watching through this video, I think I realised that yoshi must be a total nightmare for steve

A lot of Kazuyas go under my b1 with wavu and punish with twin piston

Oh nooo the 5 move character actually has to adjust to steve omgggnooo

You can always B+1 Jin Stances and get a counter hit

Thanks, I'm a steve main now.

Steve Fox 👊

Karate is such a straight and direct style will boxing is all abt angles. Steve easily gets around that mishima style.

i thinks Steve struggle against Kazuya even more, if you know how to play the match up , it's hard to learn it but trust me it's a 50\50 or a little bit for Kaz . i'll try to upload on twitter this weekend to show exactly what i mean

Other things that Kazuya lacks that may hurt him in this match is a decent magic 4 and a generic df1.

Steve is a 98% of the cast killer lmao

TMM: Legacy characters have very little crushing Paul Phoenix: df2

It would be very useful to have command history on these videos for people who are not sure of strings etc or are new to characters that you mention. Like this so Mainman Sees it

People talking about how they cant play steve but i cant even play leroy

im a begginer on this game just 75 hours played, and could you show the movements list please while playing, just to know what are you doing, cuz i dont know what is "back 1"

When I pick Steve the opponent parries most of my moves because Steve is all about punches with weak lows. What can I do about it?

But who is Steve's mortal enemy?

I'd like to assume that he's Kazuya's bastard son, which is why the DG works on him to an extent, plus with the slick hair and all that

Steve be like Time to annihilate your rear end like you did my mother's

wait does'nt devil jins hellsweep and hopkick high crush? I read that they do, so shouldn steves b1 miss?

Steve back1 better thank law or lee magic 4 ?

my biggest issue with dealing with steve is not being able to react to his moves in time to punish him correctly. steve's just flailing his arms around and im waiting half the round for punishes.

Is his tekken sped up?

Maine mom's sweet here

Would someone be so kind and explain me why there are three numbers in the startup frame row? Example: 23 (23-23).

Aussie killer

backdash f4 whole game with jin

What about Heihachi?

Rajin stance stance says hi Exits video at 0:00

If Kazuya's FC d/f+3+4 was safe, would it be ok or too strong?

Literally didn't know you couldn't PEWGF on a dash. That explains a lot lmao.

Bryan is the best counter pick for Steve, just northern cross beo

2:05 Well that is a lie

5:42 no cool counter properties....are you kidding me? The move is +7 on counter and the opponent recovers on crouch. ws 2 and TP cannot be interrupt. Kaz can apply his 50/50 with a hellsweep out of crouch.

I haven't played TEKKEN since the original Tag T ornament but I used to love it and have been really enjoying your videos... However.. half the terms you are using are completely unfamiliar to me (especially as back then there was no you-tube discussions... barely any forums!) can you maybe do a basic video on the modern strategies and terminologies?

His frames makes ne extremely frustrated and angry.I cant do any moves against him except 2 4

I main Steve fox, but actually have no idea how to use his combos, but all I do is poke, and CH when I can, either then that it’s either rushing, and keeping my opponent from destroying me, or knowing the match up, and spacing myself, with those big launchers 😅 but yeah absolutely trash at executing combos, but my play style requires attack and step back, cause if not imma eat them combos 🤣

Buff hellsweep 📢 we need high krush properties 📢 📢 📢 let Harada noe

Always had an hard time against Steve. No wonder I hate him for years mow

Just remembered that my main is Law and my cousin's Steve. We always fight and does button mashing but i always win. Never really knew that Steve is the most op character in Tekken

Yet the world matchup between Steve and Kazuya is 50-50. Regardless of steve's advantage , kazuya has a super strong and annoying 50-50

Stevu

He’s safe on everything. He’s broken

who is harder to play? Dragunov or Steve?

I think nina is a steve killer

Imagine playing jack against steve... Smh..

Is this guaranteed ? 7:14

As a Jin main, who I think is a mini-shima, I have always found Steve my hardest character to go against. This is an interesting video.

And people ask me (a Byron & Mishima main) why I dislike Steve ^^

It’s funny cause In another video you said how kazuya is perfect the way he is. Yet with noctis you said how much easier it is to win with him and not kaz and in this vid how he needs a panic move and fast highs and ducking moves or moves where he does a slight dodge. I been saying this kazuya has not been giving the proper care for this vast array of speedy characters. His move set needs to be tweaked more and give him things that go into each other meanwhile him his own son is an all around character and can take the new array of characters . It’s sad that him jack panda the bear Gigas Lee and so on have not been cared for the same way and given proper tools for the next gen. Kaz has been since the first game o believe , except when dead including the tag games. So your in all these tournaments with a vast array of fighters and you just never grow or change your style . Martial artist boxers and more learn other arts or moves so that opponent can’t read and also be more skilled. Your telling me a great fighter like kazuya cant survive adapt and overcome after he’s survived so much. Only in moves and vids he does anything different and can take a bunch of men and jacks quickly.

Steve is too hard to master. You have to break your fingers to do his 10 hit combo...

Believe it or not Heihachi fucks Steve up. Steve has to play around ws2. It nullifies 90% of his shit. RAJ punch parry turns in any attempt to start pressure into damn near a half life juggle. Not being able to launch db2 is a problem too. Heihachi is the outlier here man. Aside from that, you're right