Any character over 10 is investment. Died yesterday on 23 priest :( highest so far. I GO AGENE

@@TheLazySpoiledKitty I LIVE! I DIE! I LIVE AGAIN!

Level 12 paladin so far. I'm trying to remain aloof, but that's difficult.

Lvl 21 mage so far and I already don't know if I can handle my char dying with how much care I leveled my professions and my overall character progression. Didn't do a dungeon yet but I'm about to try my first WC, hopefully I don't die

My paladin died at level 14 to a crocolisk swarm in Loch Modan.

Same. At first I thought HC would be just a bunch of players who have mastered the game and memorized every dungeon, every enemy spell and the shape of the ballsack of every mob. Turns out its mostly just clickers with clear lack of common sense (Lets go through the middle of the Gnomer hallway).

What's the matter with that? You usually use more skills than 10.

@@ffarkasm ???? What point are you trying to make

@@ffarkasm so What ? U got only 10 Keys on ur keyboard?

@@alexbrestowski4131 that one way or another you have to click on skills, because there are not that many places on your action bar to push all keys with your left hand. You can make some custom key binds, but the opportuniy is very limited, because most keys have default purpose already.

I was thinking the same thing. I've enjoyed playing as a healer in the past. 0% chance Im doing it in hardcore!

Would be awesome way to troll asshole players and just not heal them

Tell people to pull slow and safe and make sure you always have mana. Going balls-deep multipulls as if it's no-consequences-retail is stupid if you're trying not to die.

its not terrible if you dont play with idiots

he played very bad tbh

I admit I never did HC mode and not sure if I will but I been playing and leveling holy priests since vanilla in late 2004. I didn't play non stop but when I would come back and in classic wow i leveled a few more holy priests. I get what you mean and I'm not bragging I just mean I know my class well. I know healing and bubbles well. Sometimes I take on multiple mobs at once like I think I'm a paladin but I survive because I'm used to what to do. I see some healers in groups freak out and some times when I heal people are like man you gonna heal me? I'm like you're at 97 percent you don't need a great heal lol. I can top you off with some renews and lesser heal. I always tell people that Vuhdo at least always makes health bars look less then what they are in the regular party icon so you just over heal galore.. I wanna try HC mode but probably with a different class for a challenge. I also am used to playing shamans and totem swapping to run from mobs with ease. In real life I struggle with anxiety at times and freak out but in WoW I like when shit hits the fan because it tends to calm me down as a healer and I like the action

@@DannyP-dm1pw fyi paladin is worse against multiple mobs than priest in most situations

that rogue died cus the healer sucks

Wow hardcore end game is death

I feel like 90% of the HC deaths I've seen look like the players never played classic before trying classic hardcore tbh...

What does this mean? like how do you actually lose your character?

@@Moseswasagod If you die on hardcore your character is lost and gone.

I have hit 60 twice and one thing for sure is by Gnomeregan you should have a good list of players with brains who you can level with in future dungeons.

Thank you! Someone who realizes that some people might not know every ins and outs of this game. This is how you learn, trial and error. It's not an exam where you have to study before, it's a game.

​@Blue Shadow unfortunately for the warrior, nothing in this experience will teach him that they can't swim.

I get that. Grouped for rfc and sfk and added those people as friends but they’ve all passed on. Found a team for gnomer and have run razor and SM with them only. I trust the group and am wary of randoms.

@Raccoon Yes they were. I should’ve said “new randoms”. It was a lower end dungeon. As the stakes / level rise I’m particular. There’s some real horror stories. Rather not run the dungeon and just try for 60. Are you on bloodsail?

From my experience healers are the most vulnerable and are the likeliest to die sadly

I've pugged all dungeons to 35 with randoms so far and it's been fine. Everytime we have crushed.

@@1Br0cK That's until you get this paladin in your group and tops it off with a "Pfff" when he kills you

yeah I mean...paladin doesn't have aoe heals...so just cleanse the pain. That was some of the worst healing I've seen

Did you try swimming?

how is the rogue supposed to know that the healer is clueless ?

Would be willing to bet this healer doesn't have debuffs on his ui. But yea, it's scary doing HC dungeons when people get this far while not knowing their class or dungeons at all.

@@mrsrandommademedoit3387 It's more like a person has to prove themselves not to be clueless more than hoping they aren't in a sketch dungeon.

@@InnovativeAspirations You can vanish the cast so you don't even get CC'd. Very simple mechanic, especially in Classic with a massive batch window.

@Raccoon dumb asf

rogues are very subject to one-shot mechanics. all it takes is pulling threat one time....

​@@ChairmanMeow1 Yep. Rogues have like the worst armor/health/defensive vs an actual boss who hits hard. So if they get surprised with a crit it can oneshot them if the boss swaps aggro

As a warrior you don't have many options other than a hard commit. Every fight is literally victory or death.

@@FoMScratch 2 of those mobs were a separate pull though because he didn't clear

He had some room to move backwards also which probably would of helped him not pull anything

And it doesn't help that talents are garbage in Classic, in WotLK a Warrior can clean up this whole area in like minute with revenge spam and LoS.

u have to go back to hillsbrad multiple times, absolutely 0 reason to finish that q-chain in 1 go, yet i see every1 doing it

pretty sure i saw some retail player do the searing gorge quest that makes u fight the lvl 50 rock elite that basically requires 3 lvl 60s to kill, and ofc he died lol

I don't know about HC nowadays but when I played HC on pserver in my experience you are exactly correct. A large amount of deaths for about lvl 15-30 were exactly because of this, people taking on quests without being prepared for mobs that ambush you or arrive in at higher levels than you'd expect. What you noticed with that Hillsbrad quest is a great example. Though usually people who get past that point are familiar enough with questing that 40+ often dies to either disasters in dungeon or from a nasty mob in open world (especially elite patrols in Silithus)

wotlk ? lol

cant you just jump into the water?

@@Exbozz Well yeah, if you know the mobs cant go into water lol.

Yeah, I remember in early days of classic I struggled to keep people alive during the sacrifice as a holy paladin because the damage took me by surprise. At that point I'd already played a holy pala on Kronos. It is understandable that he failed, but on HC you really need to be 100% prepared for stuff like this.

He let everyone get too low by allowing pain to tick, cleanse is instant and blocks a ton of damage. That healer was really bad

I'd say take some ownership of the issue and find out next time if your team knows what to do. Don't put all the blame on the other guy when you can solve the problem yourself.

@@cloud9847 "Take ownership of the issue and solve the problem yourself." -your healer who's standing still while you slowly die to a DoT

@@Post98w make sure your healer knows whats up before you go into the raid where you depend on them? Take some of that ownership? Run over the expectations with the healer before going in? Or does none of that sound like a good plan to you for your HC character that's about to rely on a healer? Make no mistake, the healer was messing up.

@@cloud9847 Or the healer could take the initiative of learning the 20 year old dungeon beforehand when the consequence of their failure is the loss of a character someone's invested hours and hours into. "If your healer is incompetent you're partially responsibly for their failure" is an amazing hot take.

@@Post98w considering that wasn't my hot take...I'm not surprised you don't understand my simple message. Anyway...you have a good one bud.

Also fun fact! most are playing on Alliance...

@@ganjatrooper7193 lulwut?

At least you learned the lesson without losing much lol

mean the food crate?

Yeah, you cant trust pubs in hardcore, cant possibly be stupid enough to hand my dozens upon dozen of hours invested to a random group of potential idiots who dont know mechanics and waste my entire hc run. You group at your own risk, the smart ones dont.

I think there's a certain type of healer who think dps who need heals must be standing in fire and so deserve to die.

you don't have to group with people to get to 60 deathless

The only point of dungeons is to get better gear to make leveling in the over world safer/faster. It’s a big risk for potential of big reward. As long as you stay mindful that a lot people playing HC are bad and play accordingly you should be ok

you can do it solo but the game as a base is easy. your stlil not gonna be playing with 100% attention worried youll die. you would have to go out of your way to make it harder.

Why are they so difficult?

@@digitalconsciousness Well that is actually a lot more difficult to answer short hand have you played Warrior in Vanilla before?

@@digitalconsciousness cuz they're damage and tankiness is pretty mediocre compared to other classes and they have to always be in melee range to do anything and once they commit they can't get out and their o shit button is like a 30min cd or something. So tldr gotta fight 1 mob at a time in melee with basically not safety net

Only while leveling