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The “make everything a max hero” concept actually helps a lot. Never really thought of it that way. Great video as always dude 🤘💪

As always, Seiishizo hits the nail right on the head. I knew I was way behind in r5, so when solo r5 came out, I put together a speed team... then they buffed the rates! Since then, I basically have not left r5. I can't even keep track of how many grinds and gems I've used. Your best runes will always be used, even if you get better ones later. Spend the time and max them. Side tip: can be useful to buy the cheapest daily pack if you plan to use a lot of crystals on a speed team, as that basically gives 5% more runs. Also, if you aren't hankering for a particular nat 5, use dupes to look for violent gems in the shop, particularly hp%, which you'll want the most of.

First of all, thanks a lot for this Video! One thing I can add; do the Labyrinth, even when it is clear! You will get a lot of Grindstones there, too and it doesnt even cost Energy.

Heyy I completely agree for the 4-5spd grind part, I'm really happy someone is telling this ! I think it also belong to increasing the efficiency of your keys runes (high quad cr for example) Also agree to max (hero) grind all your used runes. Grinds are the easiest way to improve. Also (at my level), the more my box increase, the more I need these purple runes, even if that's not 110 eff, for additional key units, and grinds are a huge part of the value of the runes.

great vid, I always feel inadequate when it comes to this game cause I have some great monsters and don't feel like I have the runes to justify owning them so I will use this guide to try to improve them.

I appreciate this different Outlook we do as a community focus too much on speed I set myself down recently and dear and everything on my account for RTA stopped focusing on speed because I was getting crushed around the C1 level and focus more on stats and synergy and I tell you was much more improvement. I'll start doing this better to use the grinds and gemstones then to not

This video popped up in suggestions and it's perfect for me. Thank you. You actually earned my sub with this video.

thx bro, this helps... you are so right about farming runes. I spent so much time in DB12 and barely got anything

using any grindstone gems better than leaving in storage, youd definitely progress quicker than not using them

Great video. People need to hear this. Don't save for what if....keep working and improving what you have.

awesome video i love these mindset videos, i feel people get lost in mid to late game because they dont have the right direction or thresholds on how to rune monsters

Woooow what a very nice video!! This is a real teaching-learning video to continue progressing

I use to not like your videos, but the more I watch I have realized that you are a pretty nice dude. Love the videos man, keep them up!

FIrst of all, awesome tips as always sei 👍. As a returning player after 6yrs who started a new acc thats a couple months old and has been running bjr5 with my gf's and a raid mule acc for about a month straight now, I developed a personal preference in regards to raiding that may help those people that seem to not raid enough for the most efficient progress on their accounts. The preference is that rather than farming runes and then farming grinds and gems to improve those runes, I prefer to do it the reverse order: farming like a good stock of grinds and enchants and then hitting up the rune dungeons. This way as soon as I power up good usable runes, the grinds and enchants are there to use instantly and I don't have to go back and go through dozens of runes to see 'which runes can best use this x grind/enchant so that i can maximize its value' lol. I actually kinda relate my preference to something sei said in one of his other videos that went something like 'you don't build units and then farm runes that fit those units, you farm runes and then build units that'll use those runes well' :). 100% spittin fax with that. Essentially, I farm runes in order to make use of the actual progress: grinds/gems 🙂

thanks Seii it helped a lot your vid im still trying to go to c1 im now f3 and needed some help. Lekker bezig summoner trots van Nederland!

maaan... I was literally using this mindset to my grindstones. Great content Seii

I 100% agree with it your tips! Do more raids and USE YOUR GRINDS guys. I used to hate r5 too because they're tedious and always reliant on having a good party, and then someone would take 5min to reconnect, etc. But now with solo r5, no more excuses. The way I see it, grindstones, unlike runes, are ALWAYS an upgrade if you use it. So long the runes on your units have ANY stat that's ungrinded, there's easy room for improvement.

This is exactly what I need Seii 💙 Much love your contents always.

I really needed to hear this. Thanks, man.

No im not Progressing because i dont get any Nat5 from my Premium packs and my 4 DB12 runs a week dont drop anything good!!!!11!!

This is what I needed to hear; great video!

Hope you're doing well seii. I've seen the comments and they're all over the place. Mean comments too. I agree with your "use your grinds" mindset. Grinds and gems, turn your okay rune to a high efficiency rune! Jumped me from hardstuck f3 in arena to easy conq 2!

I never thought of this , thank you so much, no wonder my grind storage is always full 🙈

I would slightly disagree with the speed grinding opinion for a few reasons... 1) *Speed differentials:* Speed differentials are devastating at lower ranks. If an opponent is 20-30% faster than us, they are effectively dealing 20-30% more damage on us per turn (based on turn advantage alone). 2) *Rune Quality Gaps:* Following on closely from point 1), factoring in the difference in overall rune quality is crucial. Stronger players with higher average/top runes speeds have more flexibility in terms of what speed rolls to grind, since they can compensate for this with other faster runes (which slower players lack). Weaker players need to grind their fastest runes just to remain competitive. 3) *Resource Differentials:* Weaker players with mainly blue and purple runes are at constant shortage of speed grinds (or they just don't have any). It's therefore a tough ask to not grind their fastest runes if they barely have any speed grinds to begin with.

Here i explain it better for Seii, the vio cd 44% rune he meat to not only use it on a high spd rune, u can also use it on a very high efficiency rune

This is true. I called my friend on my break yesterday and he plays another game. I was just randomly talking about Summoners War how for whatever reason in a game where you have to farm things and equip it to make progression I have this anxiety about using my resources to progress knowing that I'll probably get it back and farm it a hundred times over if I keep playing the game. He was stuck on whatever he was stuck on and he just went on the bench and separated the crap out of his player and you saw his resources until he had none left and he immediately progressed. I realize why people end up throwing money at games. You dont even know why youre stuck sometimes. You see end game players and forget the only reason why have all those runes and grinds is because they literally have nothing to use it on. But since youre not end game, you do! Use your shit people. Max your runes. Dont waste rss to 5* if you wont 6*. Use that mana or crystals to farm runes.

Lol it felt like u were talking directly to me n that video. Ty man I'ma try to use that strategy I really do need to use my grinds just to lazy. Ballet/lemmon tried to get me to use the rune optimizer but I cba I mostly just like the afk farming I'll never hit g3 missing to many units

Seii! Players don't progress because most of them procrastinate upgrading runes like they get a triple rolled nice quality hero and say "stay at plus 9 alright? I'll be back in 5 years" then farm again and do the same thing again hahahahaha.

Thanks

when you asked for the threshold of what to grind i thought, oh god hes going to say only over a certain amount of spd but when you said anything you use or is high efficiency i was surprised because thats what i do. People used to tell me all the time that iff a rune has no spd then you sell it or iff it doesn't have much spd and Honestly thats the problem is that players that dont know anything tell newer players to sell anything without lots of spd which is what i used to do i lost so much progression because of this i literally sold anything that didn't have spd immediately all because so many people think like that. Ever since i started looking at efficiency i actually started to make bits of progress here and there but im still annoyed at all the players that know nothing that got me thinking like that

Thanks so much for this guide!

Cheers bro, needed this !

Me: "Why do I not progress?" Bagle: "Farm more runes!" Seii: "Stop farming runes and raid more" Me: confused jokes aside: thx for the good video!

I mean this is true, kind of. If you think about it I just got a cami and gave her the left over runes I had for the moment. So now I gotta keep farming untill I get 6 perfect fitting runes for her and THIS is what keeps me personally from progressing. It just takes too long to get fitting runes for monsters.

I think for many players as well is to even get to the point, that they dont even have a good R5 team most people (me including) have problem even farming so many runes to get Runes worthy of Upgrades.

I think people aren't progressing because they don't max their arena glory towers right away. Most people would get the devilmon and probably the LD pieces. Glory points needed 180+500=680. At 4 points per victory that would be 170 wins. Assuming 100% win rate, 170wins/7days = ~25 wings per day. 25 wings per day before they start working on their towers. Of course, not counting those placement glory points that they added). And even then it is really hard not to buy a mystical scroll here and there.

I use my grinds based on rune efficiency, what good is a fast mon that hits like a wet noodle or if it can't take a hit? I actually pushed into guardian arena in the past 2 months just focusing on powering up my highly efficient runes.

Gg video buddy, shared

OMG I needed this in my life at this time!!!!!

i would grind it on at least a 3 roll into speed with high results, or grind it on a unit thats already fast but needs to be faster for speed tuning in whatever comp im using it for

I put leg speeds on all kinds of runes with low speed. High efficiency is what matters. +6 speed rune with high other stats, thats 11 speed...5 more than you would have had.

Just me or after Solo Raid update, it's way more difficult to find proper bj5 teams So many people with scuffed bj5, Lorens dying, Collens surviving A few 28k Bale, even tho the room name is " bj5 32k+ pls " people just don't read :/

I think the only reason im not progressing is the fact that I do not play anymore. ups

ill admit sometimes i waste all my crystals on summons rather than trying to progress through runes and grinds/gems which hinders progression a bit

So basically just don't stockpile grinds and if you need more grinds you just raid more when you need them.

Honestly i agree, if you have bj5 just grind shit man don’t hold the grinds

Thank you appreciate this video!

I already know I don't raid enough but that's because I don't have a good enough bj5 team yet

Tbh i only keep hero or legend grindes when they are ancient, i would even use these on a 17 spd rune if it has good rolled stats, learned from playing 2 smurfes that 1st turn without stats is worthless

I hate people that complain about not progressing and bringing out the lame argument that “they have a life”.

What would you sell in raid as a mid game player? One of the big things that keeps me from raiding more is that i will use the grinds and gems and max the runes i use them on and pretty quickly run out of mana.

Thanks for this Vid!!!! GOAT

i dont raid bc i cant really get 3 teams together that work consitently... so how tf am i supposed to get rune upgrades if i dont even have the runes to do that...

Thanks this is great advice! Dragging my ass to raid NOW...

nice vid seii

can someone explain this max hero topic once more? didnt understand what he meant with that

Can you explain what you mean max hero

I farmed so much that i'm now out of energy and crystals XD. Really don't know what to do now

My Problem is: many Units miss one or two Vio/Will Runes so i just farm db12 or nb12. So i should better farm raid?

Would you reapp a slot 4 legend vio cdmg rune with 66% efficiency if it does not have any innate?

Focus on farming and never buy premium(nat5 is not that important only got a few of them back then). Be efficient and focus nb10 more than gb10 to build a bj5 and strong lushen rune. Got G1 on 210+ days and G2 on 300+ days (can do better)

I will be honest. The thing that stopped me from progressing was that my mind just clogged up whenever I tried to rune up anything.

Appreciate your videos bro re watching this shit 🙏

Do you think legendary grinds such as HP % and Def % should have a minimum roll of 7% instead of 5%?

Does this include ancient runes, I have a slot 4 swift Cd basically max efficiency crit hp atk but no speed do I enchant speed and grind?

Imagine wanting to watch someone pull a 5th rakan

You put runes on your mushroom?

so use your grinds don't wait for the perfect rune and run raid more

dude i did some rune upgrading while watching this video and rolled 28 spd on a revenge slot 1.. xD

am doing everything you said but still hard to do it as a f2p , i don't have infinite cristals so i have to wait for siege win or for toa reset to farm otherwise i would be at 0 all the time ( i don't buy mystic packs ) specially r5 it can consume your entire cristals in about a day

5 minutes into the video, ok i acknowledge i raid too little **change from d12 to r5 farming**

how do you get the 210 energy cap?

I hate team raid and i cant solo raid yet, thats my problem

me: trying to max hero grind vio runes game: needs 20 grinds for more than 5% hp

do you try and get max gem for speed? like 8 plus 4 or aim for at least 6 plus 4?

I'm thinking of grinding cairos for runes monday-friday then raid on the weekends, is that a good start?

How long does it take to go from db11 to db12? I've been consistently doing db11 for around a month now and see very little progression. I'm not hardcore farming but I do farm around 1k energy a day.

Really usefull video, ty

Are all the runes with a possible improvement supposed to appear in the SWOP page?

I got around 10+ legendary vio/will runes PER SLOT which have no innate, are bad stats (lots of non grindables), and no matter how much i reapp, i cant convert them to any useful rune. I've already sold some from time to time. It's just terrible how many useless legend runes you can get.. Their f*cking useless and uses up rune storage space. Anyone else?

How do you go about keeping/selling runes? I've never had more than 10 mil mana at one time because I roll almost everything.

I didn’t put a grind on speed till I had a quad speed 28 one lol

do you insta sell all blue grinds/gems?

but how do i know which rune to max grind? any min threshold? like at least 2 max roll or something like that?

TLDW: raid more. (Should watch, lots of good info on correcting bad mindset) Think you raid enough? wrong raid raid raid. Just not shadow legends

Fun fakt... legi grinds never roll 8 -10 just 5-6.. sad life

people doesn't farm as top players. build a speed r5 team can drain crystal too fast that is not really sustainable for a f2p player. is the quantity of farm the big gap. top players are already to 100k energy spent in this event with guild energy count while average players are at like 10k. so it's not only where you use your grinds, but how much grinds to you storage. the gap its just too high at the moment and probably thats why average player is saving the best grinds for best speed sets more than for efficient sets.

ironically, my best effecient rune is a slot 5 vamp rune thats 119% effecient and it's still not maxed grinded yet.

I farm a bit I keep zero rune for 2 year all auto sell

I would say a triple roll in speed to use a legend

The problem is not spending enough money

Don't mind me... just a casual F3 player with a G3 monster box because I don't progress like I should. XD

I have only received one vio legend speed grind in like 1,000 R5 runs. I am saving those and most the legend speed grinds only for speed rolls of 22 or more. The purple ones I use with no restraint. I just don't see the value of having a crazy high atk rune with 10 speed over 9 speed when there are 24 base speed runes that are still have a +4 speed grind or less. People don't like these kinds of videos because nothing really happens and it is all talking. That was why IG used to have a smaller window with dungeon runs going on the background in a corner.

rta tier list when lol

Well i see you're really motivated. So when are you optimizing my account then?

I remember my guildmates being horrified by me putting a legendary speed vio gem on a HP% slot 4 with 38% atk ungrinded 7%res and 5% def. I had Seara in mind at the time I was told that Seara needs crit rate slot 4 anyway (which is arguably true) and that the rune was efficient but didn't enough make sense to justify a legend gem. Now my Fuuki is kicking butts, who's laughing now ?

This is basically the challenge to JewBagel's "Just farm runes" statement. Glad to hear a different idea!

So much mana crystal 🤯 almost 1B

game has the worst progression curve ive ever seen, played for 1400 days and still hard stuck f3