I also wish the black suit had more influence on Peter's behavior during side missions. Especially during Yuri's side missions when you already have the suit

The fact that they cared enough to change the color of the iron arms on certain suits but completely forgot to let you change the symbiote power colors is really weird. It seems like a massive oversight

This is exactly why I stuck with the anti venom suit for the post game cleanup, since it at least looked consistent. I actually really like the anti venom suit, but I really wish I could’ve equipped the black suits again after I was done with the main story

I mean, if this is the biggest oversight the devs made, we're in great shape.

What bothers me more is even when using all robot arm skills and a non-symbiote suit, the parry animation is still the anti venom version.

I hope they also add the mood change back to all the black suits after you’ve beaten the game, hearing Peter acting happy and friendly with the 2nd black suit is just strange

I think at this point enough people have pointed this isue out that we will absolutely get a patch for it within the next few weeks. I'm expecting something as early as next week, if not midway through November. Insomniac always listens to fan feedback (so long as it's not death threads or just disrespectful) and if enough fans sent them proper feedback about the Symbiote color post-game, they are surely working on fixing it perhaps even as we speak.

They really need to add symbiote color as an option after you get the anti-venom suit.

This is facts. Anti-venom abilities compared to the black suit have different attack animations too.. hopefully they find a way to add the actual black venom powers/rage to the symbiote instead of just a recolor when using.

insomniac are very good devs, they listen to their customers and they will surely patch this soon enough

I think one way they could do this is by having another suit tab (kinda like how they have miles and peter in separate tabs) with just Peter's Symbiote suits. They could then have it so you can switch to the symbiote by pressing Up on the D-pad. Each symbiote suit would also have the color match, and when you do the symbiote surge it changes (if not already) to the symbiote suit you have selected instead of just the anti-venom suit.

While they’re at it, give us the OG model for Pete..

Not to mention that Symbiote Surge literally makes whatever suit you're wearing the Anti-Venom suit.

I hope they update the game later on where we get to change the Symbiote from white to black.

I can't wait till NG+ and the additional features requested by the fans hit early 2024!! Being able to chnage the time of day plus change color of the tendrils is a huge W! I can't wait to use the black symbiote tendrils with the black symbiote rage once again when this update comes out!

I think it's cool bc it looks like an extension of the white parts of the symbiote suit. I wish there was an option (kinda like comic sfx and low framerate spider verse movement) that allowed you to change the color of the symbiote abilities tho.

My hope is that with the next big update at the end of the year (which supposedly includes NG+, the ability to change day and weather, and mission replayability) will also include having the symbiote abilities being black when you use black suits

they also need to add the ability to change the time of day while free roaming

Me when i open charcoal toothpaste be like: bruuhhhhhh

for the black suits, i hope they make an update where u can use the black symbiote/angry voice lines

Yeah, I noticed this pretty early on after beating the main story. Its also there in the parry attack too. Feel like they should have given us another thing in the abilities section for choosing your main load-out like black, white , or spider arms so anything can be used with any suit. It’s also a big ask, but I love an audio change in the settings at least for free roam to have the super aggressive pete voice. I loved it and it felt like i definitely didn’t hear all his lines in the open world before we loose the black suit in the main story.

I must be one of the few people that likes the way it looks. To me, it looks like the Anti-Venom powers are coming out of the central white Spider of the Black Suit, which is a good compromise for like a "headcanon" thing, where the dormant Symbiote in Pete remembers the form it took before being pacified by Mister Negative's powers, so it can "switch" to it, if Peter wills it, but of course, it IS still Anti-Venom. The black webs and black web-splashes have to go, though. I do agree they should just give us the option to either go full Anti or Pre-Anti-Venom on the web effects, because the inconsistencies are a bother.

I would like the mechanical legs to also have a symbiote effect when wearing the black suit. Something like the figure that Hot Toys launched

They cared more about making you play Mary Jane who’s the strongest character in this game

Another thing that bugs me is when you use the regular spider arms abilities, the arms and the base from where it comes out from just instantly blinks into Peter's back and then disappears when you're done using it. It's not noticable during combat but when you take the time to notice it, it's jarring as hell. The Superior Spider-Man suit works well with the arms since it has the base modeled onto his back so the arms neatly comes out and goes back into the base. But I just wish they'd at least made it more seemless with the Advanced Suit 2.0 since it's supposed to be his default suit.

Something that also bothers me is that peter's air tricks have the same names as miles', so you can be performing air tricks with peter and being able to see shit like "Miles Special" popping up on your screen.

It doesn't look that bad but it would still be nice to have an option to change it. I think they will likely add an option for regular Venom abilities in a layer update (likely the one they'll release in December)

Considering the devs have already implemented custom web colors depending on the suit, and custom iron spider arms depending on the suit... Id say this feature was just cut for time and is 100% getting added in one of the most recent updates we're gonna get.

Things the game needs for replayability: 1. Recolor in black for all symbiote abilities (including traversal) (Maybe a carnage recolor too in a future DLC). 2. Be able to change parry from simbiote to spider arms (Also have recolors for symbiote parry for venom and possibly carnage). 3. Get both surges: Anti-venom and Black suit. 4. Be able to change time of day and weather. 5. New game + (Coming out in December I guess). 6. Be able to repeat All Main Missions and some Secondary ones (The Flame missions for example).

Prototype walked so that Web of Shadows could run, Web of Shadows ran so that Marvel's Spider-Man 2 could swing.

Really hope they fix this in the future, it's so jarring.

YEAH. TOTALY AGREE. They should also put the black symbiotic attacks with the "berserk mode" in the post game, in addition to the suit

This is true it is a bit strange, hopefully they change it. My favorite thing though is that when you go into Symbiote Surge, it replaces your current suit with the Antivenom one if youre wearing anything but the black suit (I could be wrong havent tested everything). It also changes your abilities over to the symbiote abilities, meaning you can have all the other SpiderGadget abilities equipped and can still use the symbiote ones during surge. Its immersive af for me dont ask why lmao

Also, don’t forget that the Black suit, Symbiote suit, and the classic black suit all use black webs, but the Webbed Black Suit uses white webs

It makes perfect sense! They need to add a transmog though so it will match the black suit.

They should just make it so that you can choose what colour tendrils you want it to be no matter what you're wearing. The same goes with the parrying animation. It's annoying how the black webbed suit (aka Tobey's spider-man) has the robotic animations when swinging. It would be nice to just choose what animations and colours you want the swinging abilities, webs, parrying, abilities, etc, to be.

Definitely needs to be fixed if your wearing the black variation give him black tendrils and for antivenom give us white or give us the option to switch between colors.

The game's great and this is a very, *very* minor nitpick, but... Yah. I totally agree. I really feel like it wouldn't have taken much for Insomniac to just make the symbiote powers match the black suit. And not only that, but what if you just wanna be normal Spidey? It bugs me that in the post game, even when you have all your abilities set to the Spider Legs, Peter will still counter and stuff with Anti-Venom. It just feels weird wearing like, the classic red and blue and still have white spooge pop out of you. Again, I know these are trivial things, but it's precisely because of that that I fell it isn't asking much for some attention to detail to be applied to them... I dunno. Still an awesome product.

Theres a similar issue with the mechanical arms too. If you parry with a suit that has the arms it will use the white tendrils instead.

Glad they added an option to change the color, but I kinda wish they also added an option to turn off the symbiote altogether and use the IS arms for parry again. Kinda weird to use a non-symbiote suit with just arm abilities and still have tendrils pop out when I parry

It'd be cool if it tapered off into the white to signify that it's still a costume for the Anyi-Venom suit, but that theres a variation that makes Pete more aggressive and is all black

Yeah I don't like it either. Im fine with it being white while you use the other suits but the black suits should be black symbiote.

Spider Man must've wore the wrong socks that day.

the anti Venom only served to be able to use the symbiote after the end of the game 💀

Also I personally wish when using the black classic suit that the webs are kept white since that’s how it used to be. His webs were still white but they came out from the top of his hand instead.

I noticed that too but I do like how you turn into the anti venom suit over the other suit you’re wearing when you use symbiote surge. And the mechanical legs and look different matching their certain suits which are: superior suit, iron spider armour and the MCU iron spider suit. And when you use the web wings on the civil war suit, the wings are actually a smaller version of the MCU falcon. Pretty cool😁

I normally don’t mind things like this, it doesn’t really take away from the gameplay in anyway. But it absolutely breaks the emersion (not entirely but still), it’s one of those rare cases where I wish the devs actually went back and fix it. As it stands though, the symbiote is still very fun.

Insomniac needs to fix now like rn ik it’s not hard

Something else I hope they add to NG+ is allowing any suit to be worn when you’re automatically switched to the Symbiote suit in missions. I’d rather it make no sense for some suits than limit us to 1 like at the end of the first game

yeah im sure these things will be in addressed in the big post launch patch....i also wish that i could control the option to turn off symbiote completely. like even when you only use all spider arm moves...the parry animation is still the symbiote

Because, you finished the story before enjoying the black suit.

I do feel they were probably pressed for time on this one. This is just one of many smaller details that one would obviously expect to be there but isn't. For instance, this. And no new game+ or mission select, though that's coming. No podcast logs or character bio. Personally, what I find most annoying is that you can not change the time of day. After the story, you are stuck at noon forever, which SUCKS. And most of this stuff was in the previous games, so... all I can think is just not enough time to add in these details. Also, the lack of any notable changes or innovation in world design and combat also sounds like not enough time. And maybe not everyone feels the same, but after finishing the game I was left not satisfied with the story. I liked the story, I liked the game. I think it's a good enough sequel. But it just didn't have as strong of moments for me. Despite the over the top action and crazy story, it just didn't feel as impactful. I also think it needed to be a bit longer to help pace and flesh out better. I really liked this game, but I honestly liked the previous ones more. I replayed them right before this one released, so my opinions on it aren't corrupted by time or invented rose tinted glasses or anything. I just think they were a bit better. Still an awesome game though.

It’s probably just a mistake, I’d give the developers a little more time, games only been out a week, I’m sure(hopefully) they’ll fix it sooner or later. I would just give ‘em a little more time.

Wish we could change the black suit and normal suit separately Imagine using the Raimi spiderman suit as your normal suit and the black suit as the anti-venom suit

Even the BLACK RAMI SUIT shoots white webs and replaces the tendrils with the iron spiders claws !!

Honestly they can do what they did with the spider arms, where it depends on which spider outfit you’re wearing and it changes the color of the spider legs. They can do that with the black suit since the ability is literally the same

I've been hoping that they add a setting or the blacksuit itself changes it the moves to black Edit: I also hope if this does happen theres a setting where you can change which symbiote variant you can change into when you use L3 R3

I personally like it being white, as the black symbiote suit also has white elements, and i think the black suit and the white design and the white symbiote attacks contrast well.

I'd say the point may be that antivenom symbiote can change Pater's outlook as well. SO generally it let him look like dark venom suite but it's skill may be not affected.

Is this annoying? yes, but I wouldn't say this is an oversight, because in the abilities menu it clearly says "anti-venom" abilities which are white, and them giving us the black suit back for post game is just for cosmetic purposes, with that said I do think they should patch in a way to either change the color to black or get "venom" abilities back along with the "anti-venom" ones. Edit: the end with the goo covering the eneme being black is definitely an oversight lol

I think it’s due to the black suits influence in interaction with gameplay the webs are going to be black because that’s what the black suit does but they didn’t code anything in for the actual Symbiot abilities, which I’m certain they will in a future update or they could just give us, the option may be going to the settings, change it

It's way less weird than the symbiote suit turning into a real suit 😭

Perhaps in a patch update for this game they'll make the Venom suits black and Anti Venom suits white

Yeah, it's super annoying, they'll probably do something about it in an upcoming patch, especially considering the multiple improvements made to things like the TASM 2 suit.

Biggest complaint about this game is they never gave the black suit its own unique moveset like wos and shattered dimensions its literally just the red suit with added extra cosmetics and it makes the gameplay for symbi spiderman look obsolete

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tentacles that make you "fly" for no reason

the ziplines are also white webs instead of black even when you're not in the post game and have the black suit on because of the story

Same with using regular suits. The Perry is antivenom instead of the arms. Hopefully they fix this quick

Miles: "Hey, you back with the black suit. Why your tendrils white tho?" Peter: "Omg, you can't just ask why someone's tendrils are white."

They're gonna fix this with soo many people bringing it up.

i concur, they should also make the anti venom power up to be just a base black symbiote suit as it is during the symbiote missions

This is most likely just a bug right? My speculation is that this is what symbiote abilities look like when the devs were debugging? So that they could see them easier

I wish we could change from Anti Venom to Normal venom attacks even though it wouldn’t make sense with the game

They can change this easy with an update and i think fans deserve it!

Another thing that's weird is that the game doesn't register the Black Raimi suit as a symbiote suit. All symbiote costumes (Black, Symbiote, Anti-Venom, and Classic) register as symbiote suits except for the Raimi suit. When you web swing, it's the white webs, and instead of the tendrils, it's the spider arms. The HUD stays orange instead of changing to blue too. I don't get how they screwed that up.

It’s cuz it’s the anti venom powers still wit Peter not the regular venom bcuz obviously he is dead

i think they could have done so much to make this game even better than it already is but this is like a huge oversight

Semen man vs black man 💀

I think spiderman turned into a milky Way chocolate

Just finished the story a few hours ago and I was thinking the exact same thing! It looks horrible especially when he is web swinging and those are black but the symbiote powers are white. Like wtf?!? Dumb as hell and definitely a massive oversight by the devs 🙄 Glad someone else feels this way so thanks for the video

Im glad this was fixed with the update

It’s definitely a minor issue. But I agree I wouldn’t doubt a patch coming soon to get issue fixed

Well, luckily they fixed it

they fixid it btw

The spider on peters chest comes alive 😂

You can now change the colors of the attacks in the setting

It’s also strange because the spider arms change colors depending on which Iron Spider suit you have on.

It just occurred to me... All the attacks are coming out of the white spider emblem...

I made it make sense like I was like dude imagine when you surge he does that right before the symbiote takes over and that's how he maintains control of the black suit

Please insomniac fix that...

They recently fixed this thank god

I think you should be able to choose what black suit appears when you switch to the "rage mode" and the other abilities like for example if you have the classic black suit selected as the symbiote the abilities powers would be black and no matter what suit you have on the rage mode would be the selected suit

Are you guys serious? The game is much worse than part 1. You didn’t notice how Peter was underestimated and made weak in order to introduce the useless Miles to anyone. It's a shame for Peter

The symbiote is wack as hell... they made Peter waack again

EXACTLY, even the surge

YES! I also don’t like how parries are now all anti-Symbiote because I liked the arm parties so much more.

After the anti venom suit. It's all anti venom attacks. The swinging is still venomous I guess lol

Insomniac should update and change some minor things around

Looks like we got tentacles here