This Material Might Change How We Cool Our Houses Forever

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The most reflective material ever created, researchers from City University of Hong Kong have achieved an incredible scientific breakthrough inspired by the Cyphochilus Beetle. With a record-breaking level of reflectivity, could this be the next stage of passively reducing energy costs? Let's find out...
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@JR-mj8ph
@JR-mj8ph 5 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in the southern US, anything that can keep the AC from running all day is cool in my book!!
@jeffkilgore6320
@jeffkilgore6320 Ай бұрын
Literally.
@Ramiromasters
@Ramiromasters 25 күн бұрын
Not in the HOA books though...
@sturmherooflance
@sturmherooflance 24 күн бұрын
@@Ramiromasters fuck HOAs, thankfully this material can be other colors.
@defeatSpace
@defeatSpace 19 күн бұрын
Until it collapses your house after absorbing enough water during the wet-season.
@antonkuznetsov3044
@antonkuznetsov3044 5 ай бұрын
Being hydrophilic sounds disastrous actually. In cold regions it means it would be destroyed as the ice expands, and in warm environments it would get moldy very fast.
@wind5250
@wind5250 26 күн бұрын
Not really because it ultimately depends on how it's applied in the buildings construction . Wood and concrete are also hydrophilic yet both are used in siding and roofing applications to great effect, it just means you need to build to accommodate the water. The problem i have with this is with 30 seconds of research you will find aluminum will reflect up to 92.2% of the suns energy (aka heat source) and this is 99.6, that's not a huge enough gain to say it will change anything.
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill 26 күн бұрын
@@wind5250 if it's the exterior layer, which is has to be to maintain the effect then yes it will be a problem. Just like wood and concrete have to be covered by something else or they are destroyed very quickly. For he beetles, holding onto moisture in horrible dessert conditions is NOT a problem. For a home or building it is. You're correct though aluminum will do that. It also tarnishes however so long term it loses it's reflectivity. I'm not sure about the longevity of this stuff.
@wind5250
@wind5250 26 күн бұрын
@@MrBottlecapBill It doesn't have to be the first layer it can be second or even third , even if it was the primary layer it could be applied as paint. Concrete is used all the time as a siding aka stucco , wood is used the same way as well as roof shingles . To prevent the issues that come with water you simply need to add water control layer and a capillary break between the two materials . Tarnish only has a bearing on performance on non painted/ coated aluminum , but you will only see this on damaged or worn areas. We are mainly talking heat transfer which is IR/uv reflectance not standard visible light . If you look at homes in the us from the 40's to 70's you will find millions of homes covered in aluminum siding for all of the reasons this video talks about. You can apply the same effect with use of a peel and stick vapor barrier such as Aluma-Flash Plus or delta vent. Fyi You are talking to a licensed contractor, my specialties are home building and repair .
@sturmherooflance
@sturmherooflance 24 күн бұрын
A base coat of this with some tough varnish would be fantastic on cars in hot regions. Gotta be creative yo.
@FiddleSticks800
@FiddleSticks800 23 күн бұрын
Fouling is the bane of all of these nano structured surfaces: structural color, superhydrophibic, sticky gecko-inspired, etc. Nature gets around this by continually growing new parts (scales, leaves, feathers) and/or frequent grooming. This tech is cool but ultimately useless for anything other than specialized parts in niche optics.
@gator1984atcomcast
@gator1984atcomcast Ай бұрын
The deserts have buildings with two roofs. The first is heated by the sun. Air circulating between the first and second roof keeps the house a air temperature.
@emmanuelgutierrez8616
@emmanuelgutierrez8616 21 күн бұрын
That's also the inconspicuous benefit of putting solar on the roof, the air flow in between the two is a huge benefit
@Piepura
@Piepura 5 ай бұрын
As a person living in the Nordics, I have understood that one main purpose of a roof is to keep rain out of the building. If the material is super hydrophilic, like said, it would soak up huge amounts of water transporting it to other building materials, and also become really heavy doing so. This might pose issues with the structural strength of the house. Of course, in the Nordics cooling energy use is not such a significant design parameter with houses 😅
@janetteshelly905
@janetteshelly905 5 ай бұрын
My first question- what about rain?
@gubunki
@gubunki 5 ай бұрын
not to mention if it freezes the iceshards forming will destroy the structure for sure
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 5 ай бұрын
I think this material would probably work better in paint than in tiles, for just this reason. A thin layer of pigment on a hard surface won't soak up water like the tiles would.
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt 5 ай бұрын
Those super hydrophilic tiles might be unsuitable for houses in the Nordics, but they will prove their usefulness in the hot weather of Asia. To solve the problem of transporting water to building materials, we just need to separate the roof with some supporting structure. Of course, this is only for the hot areas. Snow in cold weather is too heavy, and supporting structures might not work
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt 5 ай бұрын
And actually, if you live in hot weather, I think it’s much better to use solar panels as a roof. Those super hydrophilic tiles should be used on the wall.
@ashleyobrien4937
@ashleyobrien4937 Ай бұрын
Years ago while working in another part of the country, I had this old company house on a farm, and one day while exploring my new surroundings I came across some spiders, tiny little things, but it was their color that blew me away, they were silver ! like real polished chrome , incredible things that I've never seen anywhere else..
@rogermccaslin5963
@rogermccaslin5963 27 күн бұрын
Those weren't spiders. You found the bot factory.😁
@olsim1730
@olsim1730 19 күн бұрын
I've seen the same here in New Zealand, I call them metallic space spiders! 😅
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 18 күн бұрын
have no idea why here in tha caribean the spiders have fur coats. caught an 8" one in the bedroom the other day (think it had been sleeping on my hand when the aircon was on, have a half asleep memory of a cold thing on my hand, last time it was a scorpion on my face...i found the scorpion a week later) got a picture where youvjust want to give it a shampoo and brush, like a spider form of joe wilkinson (8 outb of 10 cats). id take chrome nano bots instead. the little ones are very cool creatures.
@shnoog
@shnoog 5 ай бұрын
I can see dirt eventually clogging all those pores. It would be interesting to see how efficient it really is in a long term situation and if it really makes it worth using over other commercially available products over longer time frames out in the elements.
@bethanyhunt2704
@bethanyhunt2704 5 ай бұрын
How big are dust particles? If they're bigger than the nano scale, they won't be able to get into the pores.
@shnoog
@shnoog 5 ай бұрын
@bethanyhunt2704 You're probably right. Dust would most likely be larger. Testing it out in the real world is the only way to know for sure.
@ashleyobrien4937
@ashleyobrien4937 5 ай бұрын
or you could just google the size of dirt particles, math actually is reliable, no need to test
@shnoog
@shnoog 5 ай бұрын
@ashleyobrien4937 there's still no way of knowing how dirt will build up on a vertical piece will compare with one on a normal roof pitching. It may not go inside the pores but it can build up over the top and block them.
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt
@PhucNguyen-vf1zt 5 ай бұрын
Maybe this isn’t a problem if those tiles truly take inspiration from insect scales. I mean, insects always look clean, right?😄
@geraldfrost4710
@geraldfrost4710 26 күн бұрын
I've had a Planetary Air Conditioner for several years. The cooling it provides shows up in my house first. One odd thing I've learned is that the panels themselves are colder than the surrounding roof. So much so that water will condense out of the air onto them long after the rest of the roof is dry. The damp panels, therefore, attract airborne dust and pollin, which binds to the surface like water-based paint. Algae grows in this neutrient base, and it binds to the surface as well. The surface needs to be cleaned, or it turns brown. When it turns brown, all your happy reflective properties go away. One has to clean the surface back to shiny. Does your happy reflective material put up with scrubbing? I reviewed a mirical surfacant a few years back that, while reflective, was in effect a micron thick plastic coating. It worked in lab conditions but washed off with any scrubbing.
@ozne_2358
@ozne_2358 5 ай бұрын
The channels NightHawkInLight and Tech Ingredients both have videos on making your own infrared cooling paint.
@Maungateitei
@Maungateitei Ай бұрын
Yeah. And they are real, unlike this hyped up opportunity for patents and commercialisation of something which will never perform as they claim it does. It does not radiate in the Atmospheric Infrared window like Calcium carbonate does. So it absorbs longwave heat from the environment. And cannot get rid of it like carbonates do. For their claimed result it would have had to be conducting heat to a cold reservoir below it. It probably absorbs UV too. So wouldn't be much good in the tropics or southern hemisphere. Carbonates work because there is no incident long wave IR photons from the atmosphere that excite their bond angle to wiggle. But it wiggles from ambient heat absorption picked up from air molecules and other IR photo frequencies, and and radiates photons at that frequency straight out into space. Good old fashioned whitewash, would very likely outperform this. As would a pure white limestone or marble tile. The high filler density achieved with carefully sized nanospheres of carbonate is not necessary if you have a quicklime system like whitewash. It forms the ceramic like nano structure by adsorption of Atmospheric CO2.
@pinlap3875
@pinlap3875 20 күн бұрын
I came here to say this too. Those pigments had the added benefit of narrow band emissiivity in a far IR spectrum that didn't interfere with the atmosphere, meaning much of the energy taken from the building was also emitted out of the atmosphere (admittedly by small degrees, unless used very widely, which might be the point) not just reflected into the environment, and were simple to make. Also Satellite coatings using stuff like ZnO or Al2O3 (IIRC) could be worth a look for similar reasons. It is also possible to make a roof that keeps a building cool/efficient using well designed insulation and ventillation, with cheap materials like wood fibre (insulative and higher thermal mass) without nano engineering. I imagine though we'll need a wide variety of solutions, and the knowledge gained in this fascinating research could lead to something more focused, more reflective, better tuned, more durable, etc, but it won't have a wide impact unless it can be widely implemented across the '10% of energy consumption' mentioned in the video, and that might mean it needs to be cheap to produce, *and* cheap to buy (not protected and restricted). Like Thunderfoot said in his uncharacteristically balanced summary of the problem, the work needed to address the impact of the industrial revolution on the environment is comparable to all the total human effort that has got us to this point. I love biomimetic products, and the level of understanding in this research is fantastic, and hugely valuable for ongoing devlopment of products, but they have been honed into sometimes unnecessarily complex methods over millenia, and we might be better off with fast and simple where it exists, so we can get on with using it all over the world. But having said that, I'm also excitedly watching this space too. Bring it all on.
@jvebarnes
@jvebarnes 25 күн бұрын
It is amazing the things beetles give us, red food coloring, Shellac for our furniture, and now a way to turn down the A/c. Not to disparage this video but just for reference to those who want to know more about white surfaces reflecting heat Purdue University Mechanical engineering did a video on this subject 3 years ago, Tech Ingredients a year ago, and NghtHawkinLight showed how to make such a paint from household products 10 months ago.
@4pharaoh
@4pharaoh 5 ай бұрын
That manufacturing process, and the beetles themselves all look like the cross section of a tantalum capacitor. I would not be surprised there was electrical storage applications related to this product.
@witwisniewski2280
@witwisniewski2280 5 ай бұрын
For desert dwellers, reflecting the Sun is important, but preventing outgoing/upwelling radiation at night is also needed. In deserts, comfort costs are similar from cooling during Summer days, and heating during freezing winter nights. What is needed is a material that is extremely reflective for both visible light and thermal radiation, a broader white. Such a material would run a few degrees warmer during sunlight, but would conserve much heat during clear cold nights. What we really need is a switchable material, one that would be visibly white and thermally black when we need cooling, then switch to visibly black and thermally white when heating.
@timhoeffel
@timhoeffel Ай бұрын
There is a commercially available product that achieves your specifications. It reflects solar heat on the exterior and emitts conductive and convective heat on the interior. Let me know if you want more info.
@RafaelArchuleta
@RafaelArchuleta 22 күн бұрын
@@timhoeffel I'd like to know more, if you don't mind. Please share!
@beaconofwierd1883
@beaconofwierd1883 5 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for one that changes it’s reflectivity and emission with temperature, so that at hot temperatures it turns white and emits heat, and at cold temperatures it turns black and absorbs heat, meaning it will always try to keep your house/car/head at the same temperature in both winter and summer :)
@thomasbailey6997
@thomasbailey6997 Ай бұрын
I heard some news many many years ago and I think in Italy they made a tile that did this like many great ideas it faded away.
@izzyplusplusplus1004
@izzyplusplusplus1004 29 күн бұрын
​@@thomasbailey6997 Replace "faded" with "whisked".
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 28 күн бұрын
@@thomasbailey6997 Concept likely works, implementation, not so much.
@budkopach3163
@budkopach3163 25 күн бұрын
That sounds like a mood ring... I wonder if that technology would work for that application.
@Nomen.Monniker
@Nomen.Monniker 23 күн бұрын
Brilliant! It may only need a tiny bit of current to implement the change, and that could be provided with a small solar collector.
@abowlofpetunias7488
@abowlofpetunias7488 Ай бұрын
The formation of structural colour is incredible, you ought to talk to my old colleagues at the Nadeau lab, because in butterflies at least it seems the unmixing may be mediated by mechanical strain!
@markmartin2292
@markmartin2292 23 күн бұрын
I had a black dog and when he laid in the sun he would absorb so much light he was so hot to the touch. I now own an all white husky and he can lay in the noon sun for half an hour and he’s very cool to the touch.
@samblackstone3400
@samblackstone3400 23 күн бұрын
3:47 Why would cyphochilus get you banned from youtube?
@Em4il
@Em4il 10 күн бұрын
i want to know it to
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 5 ай бұрын
That's bad ass!!! And with the ability to be produced in other colors at the same time, if cost can be kept at a consumer level, then it's a real game changer for housing.
@dfgdfg_
@dfgdfg_ Ай бұрын
Be great to have a follow-up on this at some point.
@jmirodg7094
@jmirodg7094 Ай бұрын
Excellent! the super hydrophilic nature might be a show stopper but it is cool to know it exist as well as the Barium sulfide coating
@DandyAndy1472
@DandyAndy1472 22 күн бұрын
Younger me saw this bettle, and squished it dead. Now I look back with horror. Knowing that I killed something so spectacular.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video! I love the way you introduce a lot of actual scientific terms, but always know which ones to to explain in detail and which ones to breeze past quickly. That quality of judgement, knowing both what information is needed to understand the subject and having a feel for what your audience can quickly comprehend in a fast paced video, is probably the most important part of science education. And you do it really well. As for this new material, it sounds great! If they can put it in paint and use it in mass quantities it might make quite a difference in cooling buildings without electricity. I wonder, if this material was written into the building code for a large city and it gradually became the dominant color on rooftops, could it make a dent in the heat island effect? It would be amazing if a single color of paint could measurably cool an entire city.
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating. What about reflectivity of infrared and ultraviolet light? Has this been measured? Maybe this substance would be a good solar barrier for satellites.
@varnull6120
@varnull6120 5 ай бұрын
It's emissive in the IR spectrum, like most things, with the added property of it's emission being primarily in the atmospheric gap ( 11:54 ). I would imagine on reflectivity alone it might be pretty good but a better mirror would do a better job probably - the reason it's useful on earth is because there's not many materials that can pierce through the blanket of our atmosphere, and this benefit wouldn't apply as much if at all in space (there's some atmosphere up there in low earth orbit and it causes drag but i don't think it'd be enough to be insulating in a way where this would matter).
@lubricustheslippery5028
@lubricustheslippery5028 Ай бұрын
The trick is that the material have to be good at radiate heat/infrared not reflect it. I think the video missed that important part that the tricky part is not just to reflect visible light, it have to at the same time be good at radiate heat. A shiny metal surface is good at reflecting visible light and is bad at radiating heat so it get hot in the sun.
@GEOFERET
@GEOFERET 5 ай бұрын
All very good, and I suppose the material will also have a very low emission index for winter time, or doesn't it work in the infrared? For winter time, that would be important in order not to cool the house down. Also, in countries with a lot of sunlight all year round, like Greece where I live, where it is sunny very frequently during winter, sunlight wil heat houses quite a lot, saving money in heating costs. One must take into account the performance all year round.
@Kram1032
@Kram1032 5 ай бұрын
I suspect the super hydrophilicity is actually a problem in winter though, right? It presumably means this material deteriorates particularly badly in frost conditions. So then it'd only really be useful for regions where it never freezes, or you have to have mechanisms in place to replace these in that time, which obviously also makes sense for the reason that you don't want heat to escape in that time either.
@BioTechproject27
@BioTechproject27 5 ай бұрын
You could just coat them with a simple polyethylene layer. Also they need to be protected from rain and dust regardless and the coating would ideally be relatively infrared transparent. During a fire the PE would melt/pyrolise, opening it up to adsorb the water.
@Kram1032
@Kram1032 5 ай бұрын
@@BioTechproject27 part of that is a tricky thing to do if you are trying to use them as roof shingles
@wilfredswinkels
@wilfredswinkels 5 ай бұрын
But how to keep it clean. So it keeps functioning in the radiative gap.
@gertinoss
@gertinoss 5 ай бұрын
Look at the beetle?
@Randy778
@Randy778 5 ай бұрын
So this´ the best mirror availabe?! As crazy as it might sound but you could use it as the best parabolic mirror to heat up things as well. Science for the win.
@akauppi2
@akauppi2 5 ай бұрын
As I understand it, this material reflects the beams in rather random angles. There are often multiple reflections, vs. a mirror doing just one.
@steveo5295
@steveo5295 5 ай бұрын
Sounds good, but over time won't those holes that don't allow the waves to penetrate thermal heat plug up. Also absorbing water could create algae growth...
@CyberiusT
@CyberiusT 5 ай бұрын
Plug with what? The sand grains etc that make up general dirt are way bigger than those pores. Algal cells are also bigger than those pores. Really, that should be fairly obvious, since the beetles can't clean that chitin better than just wiping the surface, and they're not soiled or covered in slime either. I'm more concerned with that chemical cocktail needed to make it, and the durability of the product. It's not going to be useful if the stuff is deadly to produce, causes something like asbestosis/silicosis as it breaks down in the environment, or has a service life of a year.
@steveo5295
@steveo5295 5 ай бұрын
Well I guess I waste my money at a car wash from the grime and dirt buildup even though it's parked under a carport and only used two to three times a month. The beetles 🪲 must go to the same car wash I go to I've seen a couple of punch bugs there...
@CyberiusT
@CyberiusT 5 ай бұрын
@@steveo5295 You are talking about surface adhesion, which is more down to static electricity and molecular polarity. I was talking about particles physically filling the pores of that 'sponge'. On re-reading, it's unclear to me which kind of 'plugging up' you meant, so I'll use the more generous one and bow out with an apology.
@davidbetancourt4028
@davidbetancourt4028 22 күн бұрын
TechIngredients has a video from March 2023 that discusses barium sulfate being used and making a paint from it. There's also an old University of Utah paper discussing how just adding barium sulfate to paint works really well too. Lastly, there's a guy using calcium carbonate I think for paint-like applications that does a great job too from NightHawkInLight.
@johnnybgood5008
@johnnybgood5008 22 күн бұрын
Just what we need. Massive areas of land like cities reflecting their heat into our atmosphere. Nature absorbs heat - seas, forests etc…
@pinlap3875
@pinlap3875 20 күн бұрын
It would be handy if it could reflect it right back out of the atomosphere too.
@juareza
@juareza 23 күн бұрын
Not an angle described on this video: a porous surface in exterior location gets dirty fast. Porous get filled very easy on polluted environments. Also on location where rain transport sand (areas near deserts). Porous get fill up and microbiota and after that plants start to get advantage of a great surface prepared for roots development. Thank you for the contribution!
@joelouellet7229
@joelouellet7229 21 күн бұрын
I know your talking about exterior use to help buildings keep cooler. But with your later comment on it wanting it to repel heat, could you not use it indoors where you wish to keep the rooms your heating warm. Would it not repel the heat back into the room away from itself? That would make it completely amazing and useful for energy conservation.
@mikemcelveen
@mikemcelveen 21 күн бұрын
Fascinating. I'd be curious to see how it holds up outdoors with rain, specifically around fungal and algae growth, and how that growth affects the reflectivity.
@user-jf6ij2jm4h
@user-jf6ij2jm4h 20 күн бұрын
I've worked construction in the past and there are a few questions. One is about debris. What happens if tiny dust particles come into contact over time? How easy it is to clean? What is the material's lifespan? If it's only good for 5-10 years before cracking/breaking/warping, then it's not worth the effort to install it. How resistant is it to impacts like hail or perhaps a rock thrown from a lawn mower? Can it withstand 40 mph wind gusts? There's lots of testing that needs to be done.
@kavinho
@kavinho 19 күн бұрын
If the material is used to build a ceramic tile, I would assume that it has a thin layer above it which is very transparent but easy cleanable and resistant to wear and tear.
@alfellati
@alfellati 22 күн бұрын
The hydrophilicity can be solved by adding a topmost layer of acrylic or a similar transparent and durable material that can allow light to pass through to be reflected by the main material while staying dry. If this could be done efficiently and affordable for mass production then it could be a game changer.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 20 күн бұрын
If the material is porous, then it's possible that debris may fill up the surface spacing, such that it loses its reflectivity. Perhaps they can seal up the gaps with a clear coating. Also, it attracts water. If water enters the pores and then freezes, the internal structures will be damaged by the expansion of the ice crystals. The material my flake and crumble after thawing out.
@cliffordmjordan
@cliffordmjordan 5 ай бұрын
Amazing material. One characteristic that needs to be investigated is how resistant is this material to UV light? Does the sun's UV break it down or yellow it?
@EMBer3000
@EMBer3000 19 күн бұрын
Could you use this as a coating on a radiator for space applications? If the reflectivity is high enough and the conductivity is good enough, you could pack multiple radiators close to each other and the emitted infrared photons will just bounce around until they leave the array instead of getting reabsorbed. This could make for some really compact and efficient cooling solutions for space craft. Since one of the problems of quick inter planetary transport via nuclear electric propulsion is the requirement for truly enormous radiators, this could really help.
@NikkiTrudelle
@NikkiTrudelle 23 күн бұрын
The lidenfrost effect can be overcome by high pressure water spray like that which comes out of a nozzle of a spray bottle. Then switch to a large jet after the spaced out water spray cools the material enough to become below the lidenfrost threshold
@michelewhitewolf9856
@michelewhitewolf9856 25 күн бұрын
There is a heat reflecting paint using ceramic micro spheres that are hollow and hold a vacuum inside. Add this to those ceramic pieces and that may add to the effect.
@janetteshelly905
@janetteshelly905 5 ай бұрын
My second question- when do the researchers expect this material to be ready to market?
@MattNolanCustom
@MattNolanCustom 23 күн бұрын
Sounds great on many fronts. My first question would be how does it weather - alumina is super-hard, but can it still be fractured by absorbed water freezing? And in terms of absorbing microscopic dirt, soot particles, algae, etc. - how long before its reflectivity is compromised below the performance of the alternative existing ceramic tiles?
@Maric18
@Maric18 5 ай бұрын
nighthawk in light and tech ingredients have some open source research videos on a very similar concept right here on youtube! its a bit of a project, but its even doable/verifiable at home, if not scale-viable yet, as far as i know
@deniskhafizov6827
@deniskhafizov6827 10 күн бұрын
Being porous does not inevitably mean being hydrophilic. Look at styrofoam, for example. Maybe some researchers can find other compounds that make a highly reflective and hydrophobic material that would be better suitable for roofs.
@mickeyfarren3803
@mickeyfarren3803 5 ай бұрын
Could we use this as a base to reflect light to make solar panels more efficient?
@MrAdammace
@MrAdammace 5 ай бұрын
This is what I was wondering 🤔
@final_catalyst
@final_catalyst 21 күн бұрын
The way it absorbes water means a few problems if not coated to prevent that "feature". As this means water getting into and freezing would break down the structure, mineralization would hapen as water evaporates and it could provide a great environment for biological growth. Possible to get the benefits of this well reducing the drawbacks, if you can find a sealent that wont interfere with the properties to much, and breaks down with heat. That way when the fire starts to cook them they suddenly can absorb that water. Though by that point not sure how effective that will be at actually helping, as major damage will be done already
@theobserver9131
@theobserver9131 5 ай бұрын
From an artist point of view, it would be interesting to experiment with this ultra white in contrast with the new ultra black paints coming out.
@JJayzX
@JJayzX 5 ай бұрын
Check out Tech Ingredients, he shows how to make an ultra white that does sub-ambient cooling as well.
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 5 ай бұрын
@@JJayzX also NighthawkInLight, they've been back and forth on this idea
@Xanderben13
@Xanderben13 23 күн бұрын
Considering the idea of the practicallity of using these things as roofing tiles or outside tiles, I wonder if the research team did any study on if mold could grow inside the tile if it gets moistened outside for long periods of time, damaging the tiles and it's solar reflecting capabilities. I reckon cleaning it would involve more than just bleach and soap.
@cylinder_down
@cylinder_down 22 күн бұрын
There is something I don't understand about this sunlight reflecting strategy : What happens in winter ? Doesn't the higher reflectivity mean the house will have to use more energy to keep warm during winter (therefore cancelling the efficiency benefits you get during summer) ?
@timkirkpatrick9155
@timkirkpatrick9155 Ай бұрын
I would love to experiment with this stuff for vapor transit and thermal stability under freeze thaw cycles. The problem with white roofs is condensation under the roof due to vapor passage from building interiors. This results is frost formation at the transit boundary and potential rot of organic framing and soluble surfacing with thawing of that frost line.
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 28 күн бұрын
2:12 I'm impressed, the nano holes shown are roughly tuned to the full wavelength of blue light; just a bit under 500nm. Further in, I can see molding middle Dalton weight plastics, such as PVC or Polyethelene into these forms, cheaply and quickly
@williamgidrewicz4775
@williamgidrewicz4775 22 күн бұрын
This discovery might be of very great use if they could adapts such techniques, in super cooling the artic zones where is melting with a unique aerosol. Also maybe very effective sunscreens for beach enthusiasts!
@ManfredBartz
@ManfredBartz 5 ай бұрын
Interesting but I fear it will prove to be ineffective in most environments. After a year or so, any external surface is covered in dust and the porous nature of this super-material will probably invite dust particles to stick even better. I am looking forward to research into how materials like this can be made dust-repelling or self-cleaning so that they remain effective over many years.
@mkperez7465
@mkperez7465 5 ай бұрын
The porosity is in the photonic range, the outer layer could likely be coated and only reduce slightly its effectiveness.
@ManfredBartz
@ManfredBartz 5 ай бұрын
@@mkperez7465 Soot particles (10..100nm) will fit easily into the pores of the material. Coatings have less than 100% transmissivity and they have porosity of their own. Also, the light needs to pass twice through any coating.
@sznikers
@sznikers 5 ай бұрын
​@@ManfredBartzif they dont find way to seal surface layer it will be useless. Outside environment is full of particles of all sizes and you wont be able to clean 3D structure, but the biggest problem is that its hydrophilic, they most likely pulled that whole "oh look it wont have leidenfrost effect" thing out of their pocket to make it sound like feature when its a flaw. Think about it, it will be damper than surrounding environment from all the water inside so invitation for mold and moss, those will actively destroy that surface (both color by filling gaps and damage physically, think moss eroding rock). On top of that if water inside freezes that tile is done for. So any place where temperature drops a single degree under 0° for a single night a year is out of question as a potential market. Places where temperatures never drop below zero are... humid parts of the world where molds, mosses and whatever else loves to grow 😂
@BioTechproject27
@BioTechproject27 5 ай бұрын
@@sznikers You could just coat them with e.g. a simple polyethylene layer, as any protective layer should ideally be relatively infrared transparent. During a fire the PE would melt/pyrolise, opening it up to adsorb the water.
@sznikers
@sznikers 5 ай бұрын
@@BioTechproject27 polymers will get destroyed by UV Also dont focus on that leidenfrost effect, thats a decoy to focus conversation on it. Nobody is resigning from ceramic tiles in building industry cause they have leidenfrost effect, that's ridiculous.
@BloodyMobile
@BloodyMobile 21 күн бұрын
For some reason I now wanna see Vanta black next to this stuff. The contrast of these materials would probably be literally unreal.
@matthewhafner962
@matthewhafner962 18 күн бұрын
I remember reading about a paint a few years ago which is a suspension of varying sized titanium dioxide nanoparticles. It too had a very very high solar reflectivity, but also was transparent to IR, meaning a house can shed its own heat through the paint layer, while the paint prevented solar absorption. How does this compare to that?
@val_m1999
@val_m1999 18 күн бұрын
3 Questions: 1. What are the effects of the solutions/solvents used in making these tiles on the environment? Sort of like the whole concept of attempting to make an earth-friendly attempt to use bamboo instead of cotton as a natural product to transition from synthetic materials that release microplastics into the world. The chemicals used in transforming fibrous bamboo into a playable textile material requires a plethora of toxic chemicals that pollute the surrounding area. Another example is using battery power in EVs to get away from greenhouse producing internal combustion engines. The current tech of LiIon batteries turns mining and manufacturing areas into barren toxic wastelands. 2. What about the natural issue of molds,algae, and lichen growth on the porous cooling material? This is going to be a problem in a lot of places that are high in vegetation, heat, and humidity. 3. What about the expanding issue of freezing water in areas prone to seasonal freezing. Global warming is causing the heat fluctuations to be dramatic from summer to winter and drastically reducing the time of fall and spring.
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 24 күн бұрын
Hmm cannot be used at all in winter. Ice expanding will break the tiles 100%. But extremely useful in hot regions.
@lewislane1143
@lewislane1143 19 күн бұрын
Good for you Hong Kong. Thanks for helping the environment.
@STxFisherman
@STxFisherman 21 күн бұрын
The material's hydrophilic nature and porosity would make it such that mold would become a factor in decreasing its reflectivity significantly. The mold factor would have to be considered in the development.
@parz1v3l
@parz1v3l 5 ай бұрын
I’m confused on how you would make paint out of this.
@Simplicity4711
@Simplicity4711 18 күн бұрын
Crush it to pigments? The nano structure should still be able to do it's job.
@helmutzollner5496
@helmutzollner5496 Ай бұрын
So, if it I'd so highly water absorbent I have two questions: 1.) How can a facade of a building kept clean 2.) Will this material be constantly damp? 3.) In a typical City environment, how long can this stuff function until it's pores are polluted? Will it still function when wet and dirty?
@BobStrawn
@BobStrawn 7 күн бұрын
Nice. Now what happens when mold grows on it? Perhaps you could clean it with a torch since it is reasonably fire resistant, but my hypothesis would be that mold would love to establish itself on this during a damp season and ruin most of the gain. The other place it might be valuable is as a refractory.
@ethanlewis1453
@ethanlewis1453 18 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter if it reflects 100% of light if it gets covered dirt that absorbs all the light. There are other wonder materials like this, and I have yet to hear about their cleanability, dirt collection tendancies, or longevity.
@eg042680
@eg042680 26 күн бұрын
now design for a slight mechanical shift in angle to change the reflectivity so that it absorbs heat in the winter months.
@vladyslavkorenyak872
@vladyslavkorenyak872 21 күн бұрын
I would be interested in the reflectiveness of this material when it is soiled in the typical way any other surface would in a building.
@Nomen.Monniker
@Nomen.Monniker 23 күн бұрын
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Current asphalt shingles in the US make roofs unbelievably hot Even a little lighter, or a little more reflective surface color or material, could make a difference, especially when considering the cumulative effect of energy savings for millions of homes. I see a lot of good ideas shot down because they aren't perfect. But small changes, added up over millions of houses, can make a significant difference. Sure, we can't run an entire house off of solar. But in sunny areas, like the Southwestern US, solar could offset energy use, especially in summer when people need AC. Or LED lights. We replaced our entire kitchen array (it came that way) of six 60 watt incandescent bulbs with six 12 watt LED bulbs, so now the kitchen only needs 72 watts total, instead of 360 watts. All the rooms in our home had multi-bulb fixtures, and we slowly replaced all the bulbs with LEDs as we could afford to. Now we can run all the lights in the house for the energy that it used to take to just light the kitchen. (We don't, but we could.) The money we saved on our electric bill exceeded the cost of the LED bulbs in just one year. Everyone wants a one and done big solution, but i think we need to consider using a patchwork of solutions that people can acquire and implement as they can afford them. It's like a quilt. A piece here, a piece there, until you have a whole blanket that does the job.
@williamhorn4290
@williamhorn4290 21 күн бұрын
So the weight delta between damp and dry state of this material is the limiting factor for a comercial or other construction aplications! Would be nice to improve upon its lack of hydrophobic capabilities as the weight gained from it being damped or floded might prove to be a game breaker for some uses. That said, how hard is it for algae or moss to colonize this material? As in a high humidity environment I recon it would store much more water in its pores than in a dry environment....If what I'm thinking is correct, it might still be usable in desert environments as linning material for houses and buildings. Regardles, it was interesting to watch. Ty
@stellatoronto
@stellatoronto 17 күн бұрын
This appears to be a promising discovery. Application in the field will have to take in a lot of variables. The porous nature of it's structure would be problematic in most climates, but a composite with glass might be an elegant solution. I wonder if this material could be utilized as a condenser in drier climates. On our warming world this sounds like it could be a game changer.
@bodiless99
@bodiless99 Ай бұрын
The big question is how well it would do the job of roofing shingles. If water is drawn into it's structure, how will that affect it as a shingle? Will is last in the weather?
@zaxxon4
@zaxxon4 24 күн бұрын
If it works, then they need to put it on one side of panels that can be flipped to to absorb infrared. Otherwise it would increase heating costs. Depending on cost a solar roof may be the better options for most buildings.
@iggy6841
@iggy6841 23 күн бұрын
Lets hope this new material/paint is on the market soon and available in all countries at a reasonable price!!
@threeriversforge1997
@threeriversforge1997 22 күн бұрын
I think it's a neat concept and I look forward to hearing more about it as others test the concept. If this material can be made cheaply enough, I'd happily tile my roof with it just to say that I did. The real issue, imo, is going to be producing tiles that are sufficiently durable enough and economical enough that they can actually replace the current materials being used. I also wonder how tiles might be used as insulation in outer space for satellites and whatever else has to deal with solar radiation.
@letsbereal-hd8qt
@letsbereal-hd8qt Ай бұрын
Three common reflective roof coatings are silicone, acrylic, and aluminum. They all get dirty and become less reflective.
@zachreyhelmberger894
@zachreyhelmberger894 2 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about how and why LIGO made a photon flux capacitor? That just blows my mind. A capacitor stores energy in the form of an electric field. An inductor stores energy in the form of a magnetic field. But LIGO stores energy in the form of an electromagnetic field.
@Julian_Wang-pai
@Julian_Wang-pai 22 күн бұрын
How effective is the material when wet or grubby? Maybe the material (alumina is highly refractory) allows contamination to be 'burnt off' under hot sunshine.
@roqua
@roqua Ай бұрын
2:42 I've heard of constructive and destructive interference, but "deconstructive" is a new one for me (and for Google, which just points to results for "destructive")
@corynrobinson
@corynrobinson 20 күн бұрын
Considering the material is porous, how does rain and dust affect its reflective properties? How difficult would it be to clean?
@PhoenixNL72-DEGA-
@PhoenixNL72-DEGA- Ай бұрын
If the material is somewhat porous to water, wouldn't that mean it is unsuitable for cold climates as the water would freeze inside the material structure and destroy it? Also wouldn't using this material in climates that have hot summers and cold winters mean that heating costs in winters would rise which would negate the energie benefits of not having too cool as much during summers?
@WhyWhatWhoWhenWhyAgain
@WhyWhatWhoWhenWhyAgain 24 күн бұрын
Does it need to be cleaned in a specific way to stop micro particles from entering the pores and changing the properties of the material?
@SaintsofAvalon
@SaintsofAvalon Ай бұрын
Easy answer is to spend £15k on external 150mm cladding with a nice render over it = blocks solar heating in the summer so we have to run the heating now as it's so cold in the house as the walls never heat up any more .....Not sure iff there is a benefit in the winter as the vented roof draws all the heat out ! ... So much for " greeness " and saving energy .
@michaelrynn2465
@michaelrynn2465 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely confirms the value of nano-technology materials and also the value of nature's evolved cleverness. Now I wonder if there is a better way to make near-perfect mirror reflection surfaces as well, for use in solar thermal power stations.
@MitchBurns
@MitchBurns Ай бұрын
As an electrical engineer I can see one major issue with putting this on buildings. If this is really some kind of randomly porous aluminum, then I worry about it blocking cell signals. Aluminum like other metals is very good at this, and a random pattern would be extremely effective at this for the exact same reasons it reflects light so good. So from what I can see it will reduce your energy consumption, but at the cost of making your phone not work inside. In today’s society, I don’t think people will take that trade off.
@ironrod1979
@ironrod1979 Ай бұрын
As long as the wi-fi works I'll happily pay less for my AC use.
@eliadbu
@eliadbu 20 күн бұрын
Cool material (no pun intended), but if you are going to cover your home with it, there are other properties that are needed to take into consideration like how it stand in weather over the years, is it susceptible to mold, uv rays, will it accumulate rain water and so on.
@Debbie-henri
@Debbie-henri 25 күн бұрын
So, we'll all have to paint our houses with this white beetle stuff - to offset the effects of manufacturers making this material through industrial processes in the first place? To be honest, as a person who has a white painted house - yep, great in the summer. I touch the house walls and they are way cooler than brick or dark colours. However, not so great in these Scottish winters, when you want the house walls to soak up as much sunshine as possible. Scotland has a bit more winter type weather than summer (or should have), so if we want to cool down a bit, opening windows is still a good way at the moment.
@luimackjohnson302
@luimackjohnson302 23 күн бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing this incredible video news on nature s reflective white nano material & now scientist are producing nano materials & improving the reflectivivity of light on these new nano materials
@RCox-bm1on
@RCox-bm1on 25 күн бұрын
I see a possibility. I don't think it would work long term on a roof. However if it has insulating properties it could be incorporated into the interior of a house to hold in heat and cooling.
@Simplicity4711
@Simplicity4711 18 күн бұрын
If it gets dirty, doesn't that reduce the reflectivity dramatically quite quickly? You would need to clean it all the time to stay better than regular paint, right?
@bloosn
@bloosn 22 күн бұрын
Is it easily protected from becoming dirty, which would reduce its reflectivity? If it is wet, and freezes, does it break?
@quietlistener7054
@quietlistener7054 Ай бұрын
This would work well as a solar panel backing, where efficiently is based on how much interaction the cell receives.
@fredbuchanan2560
@fredbuchanan2560 18 күн бұрын
I live in the High Desert of Southern California, so saving $$ on cooling costs is always my top concern. It can get up to 120°F/49°C here in the summer. My concern is if it is so refective, how would effect those viewing it? Will it light blind those looking at it?
@mercurywoodrose
@mercurywoodrose Ай бұрын
For a couple of years or more I’ve been wondering why we don’t use use highly reflective white surfaces to cool buildings well obviously it’s because it doesn’t do as good as job as we’d like it too would solve that problem
@amzarnacht6710
@amzarnacht6710 Ай бұрын
The only question is how robust is it... if it were to be made into an exterior cladding for buildings exposed to the abrasives in the atmosphere how well does it stand up? Particularly when exposed to particulates that might fit through the interstices and 'gum' it up (i.e. the same reason nano-hydrophobics don't last long - they get loaded with particulates).
@ykyjohn
@ykyjohn 29 күн бұрын
the only problem would be dirt deposit over time on the tiles, which will reduce its effectiveness and probably will need maintenance over time to keep effectiveness at 100%, so the question is how much effectiveness will really be on average between the cleaning maintenance? also how the material will really fair against dirt? shame nothing of such concerns were talked on the video.
@jimmyquigley7561
@jimmyquigley7561 5 ай бұрын
Great idea.and potenially cheap to produce if the PES and NMP are recycled. Are the pores small enough to prevent moss attaching itself or it being invaded by photosynthesising micro-organisms?
@BioTechproject27
@BioTechproject27 5 ай бұрын
You could just coat them with a simple polyethylene layer. Also they need to be protected from rain and dust regardless and the coating would ideally be relatively infrared transparent. During a fire the PE would melt/pyrolise, opening it up to adsorb the water.
@rollinOnCode
@rollinOnCode 26 күн бұрын
What about mold then? being hydrophilic may be disastrous in cold environments and where it is warm as it could attract mold. And in the cold it would expand
@bluesquidny
@bluesquidny 26 күн бұрын
Almost like before going in the water versus after getting out of the water on a windy day.
@CerebralOrigami
@CerebralOrigami 23 күн бұрын
How much power could you generate with a thermocouple between tiles made of this material and tiles made or coated with Vantablack?
@ScienceMagicBoi
@ScienceMagicBoi 26 күн бұрын
@2:48 the correct term is 'destructive' interference, not 'deconstructive' interference. They sound similar, and I can see how 'deconstructive' could make sense, but that's not the commonly used term.
@nopenope1
@nopenope1 22 күн бұрын
how does it work in between and winter? I guess it should be a net positiv but how much energy from the sun is actually absorbed by the roof etc.? The other thing is how to avoid dirt on it, reducing the effect and! would there be a negativ on light pollution or 'reflections' e.g. into the windows of other people...
@jonathonalsop2120
@jonathonalsop2120 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful.
@4211Rob
@4211Rob Ай бұрын
From what I have heard, in Greece white roofs are mandatory and of course look beautiful against the blue Mediterranean.
@bigboy4006
@bigboy4006 29 күн бұрын
This is interesting Ben. It most definitely would help reduce costs to homeowners, making air conditioning more efficient without increasing a homeowner’s utility bills. Also, couldn’t this be used to create ceramics that reflect light back into space? If so, it might help slow down climate change, allowing us to have more time to battle climate change.
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