This monster made my homemade jet engine 2.5x more powerful.

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Neally

Neally

3 ай бұрын

Today we're building the new centrifugal Supercharger that I designed for my homemade electric jet engine. The compressor worked really well and I hope you guys enjoyed the build!
My Parts List:
60 & 20 tooth 5mm bore gt2 drive pulleys - a.co/d/8oKQ0Br
40 tooth 8mm bore gt2 drive pulleys - a.co/d/fnh2IR0
8mm Linear Motion rod - a.co/d/hsw2E2d
XD-775 24v DC motors - a.co/d/7nYJ2wI
24v 10A power supply - a.co/d/cx4RGUK
608 2RS Ball Bearing - a.co/d/2pVWHDL
7-70v 30A PWM Motor Speed Controller - a.co/d/3MYEJTy
#homemade #jetengine #3dprinting

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@integza
@integza 3 ай бұрын
I'm loving seeing your progress
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
@hfyaer
@hfyaer 3 ай бұрын
You should take notes integza. Both of you blow flames in a pipe and call it a jet. But he does it better...
@xdestroyerx117
@xdestroyerx117 3 ай бұрын
Nice seeing you here
@leomonk974
@leomonk974 3 ай бұрын
@integza you sir are the reason I got into rockets, thank you for your content!
@raoulduke7668
@raoulduke7668 3 ай бұрын
the allfather hath spoken!
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
This is called a "motorjet" and I built one as a teenager about 30 years ago, I used it to successfully fly an RC airplane. Good for you for doing it, but in order for it to work the compressor must be able to develop an appreciable pressure ratio. Your compressor is of the style used in car turbochargers and must run MUCH faster than a 3D printed one can withstand. I made my compressor wheel out of model aircraft plywood and machined grooves in the outside diameter, then wrapped it with carbon fiber to keep it from blowing up at high RPM. I used a brushless DC motor to drive it directly at roughly 50,000 RPM and it produced around 3 PSI pressure IIRC, which was just barely enough for the engine to produce roughly 1 pound of thrust and fly the ~3 lb. RC plane. Fuel consumption was incredibly high, about 1 liter of fuel (diesel fuel/kerosene and gasoline mixed) for one minute of flight. It did work, though. So yes, this CAN work! But, your compressor must be able to develop a few PSI of pressure otherwise you won't have a jet engine--just a blowtorch. About 5 PSI pressure is a good number to work with, restrict the outlet of the compressor by covering it with your hand and see if you can get it to produce a few PSI without blocking all the airflow.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I got done tightening to tolerances today and the compressor made a static peak of 0.9psi at 30k rpm. When I designed it I had planned for it to spin at a maximum of 60k rpm, but the brushed motors we're extremely disappointing. Rather than upgrading the motor and compressor I've started working on a new turbojet engine, so I can just work on optimizing the engine and compressor directly without having to invest in brushless motors and ESCs. I really appreciate the input, thank you! Cheers✌️
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally Brushless motors and ESCs are available from China quite cheap though. If you use a small car turbo compressor and a brushless motor you might be able to get useful thrust out of it, enough to fly an RC plane. A pressure of 0.9 PSI should be enough to get it to work, but with the motors going at full power the engine is basically idling. About 5 PSI or more would be good. The higher the compressor pressure, the more thrust you will get for a given fuel consumption and overall engine size. That's why passenger jet engines can run at compressor pressures of several hundred PSI :)
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
For sure, I'll keep the brushless motors in mind. But I was going to build the new engine soon anyways so I think I'll get cracking on that and then revisit this motorjet down the road once I have some more money.. Being a student is rough😂
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally No doubt, but if you study engineering/technology then having projects like this will show you that designing something is one thing--but getting it actually BUILT so that it can WORK is a whole different ball game!
@jsh111
@jsh111 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps one option he could pursue is to add a few axial compressor stages prior to the centrifugal (current compressor he is using). Don't know if this would add appreciable additional pressurization at lower rpms or not however. This is the problem with gas turbines. They require insanely fast rotational speeds to get any appreciable compression
@dinissantiago6729
@dinissantiago6729 3 ай бұрын
Nothing like the feeling of finding a cool new youtube channel
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Good to have you along for the adventure, thank you!
@John-jj8jc
@John-jj8jc 3 ай бұрын
This is great! You probably already know this but if not, you should consider getting a very high KV brushless motor and driving the comrpessor directly instead of using pulleys and those DC motors. They are much more powerful and efficient, especially at really high RPMS, which are needed for this compressor.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's a really good idea! I was a little bit restricted by budget factors which kept me from exploring in that direction, but you're definitely right! I may look into it in the future. Thanks!
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally That's an excellent idea because the timing belt and pulleys will absorb most of your motors' power output. Alternatively, you can use a plastic gear on the motor shaft and a small steel gear on the compressor shaft and run them without oil. That might work. This style of compressor (no cover plate, like a car turbo) must run at much higher speeds to produce enough air pressure, probably 3 to 5 PSI might do it. Youll probably have to get the compressor running at 50,000+ RPM to do that, and if it blows up, you'll need a different compressor design. Be careful around stuff that spins really fast--it can blow up like a small bomb! Not to shout but WEAR YOUR SAFETY GLASSES WHEN RUNNING IT.
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep 3 ай бұрын
Really, I 'never'wear safety glasses cause they allow material to bounce off the inside of the lense and into your eye cause the eye can't detect it quick enough, cause you obstructed it with the fukin plastic lense 😅 don't believe me! Then wake the fuk up! God gave us reflexes for a fukin reason 😮
@johnmoseslives
@johnmoseslives 3 ай бұрын
bro the ceiling fan in my house makes more boost and cfm than this compressor, your gonna need a bigger exducer ngl to make it flow the way you want at that rpm.
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
@@johnmoseslives No he doesn't, he needs the compressor to withstand much higher RPM to get the pressure he needs for a jet engine to work. 3D printed plastic ain't gonna cut it, it will burst at high RPM. There's a reason they make compressors for turbos out of aluminum :) You also need a LOT of motor power for this to work, if those brushed motors are maybe 100 Watts each then the engine will barely idle. It'll be more like a blowtorch instead of a jet engine because there isn't enough air pressure. Instead of a couple hundred watts of power, maybe a kilowatt would be good.
@ihatemylife4314
@ihatemylife4314 2 ай бұрын
you rarely run into low subscriber count channels that have content this interesting and knowledgeable in simple fun way, love it
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it🤟
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 2 ай бұрын
As a young man back in the late 80s my buddy and I were always playing with a go-cart or mini bike or whatever. We decided we needed a supercharged go-cart. My buddy made one to fit a 5hp Briggs. Didn't work well. So I took it and made some big changes and it worked. The impeller was a washing machine water pump. Turned it into a manageable shape for the 9in south bend lath were were using. Had a 9-1 over drive with a v belt. Had studs in the engine. Shaves head. Massive ports. I ran it on 25% nitro rc helicopter fuel. It was a screaming beast. Absolutely dangerous as could be. Now with 3d printing. Hard to believe what is possible. We joked about making something from nothing. Never dreamed of stuff like this back then.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
3d printers are pretty good, but I think what you did with that waterpump takes a lot more creativity and skill. That sounds like an epic project!
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771
@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 2 ай бұрын
@Neally Thank you. It was a couple of years worth of fun. My mom would say. At least he doesn't drink... lol
@gamingboi_7730
@gamingboi_7730 3 ай бұрын
Turbocharged jet engine! Integza would be proud!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@amicloud_yt
@amicloud_yt 3 ай бұрын
That's not a turbocharger... It is not powered using the engine's exhaust gasses. A turbo uses exhaust gasses. It's why a turbojet is called a turbojet
@nervun8097
@nervun8097 2 ай бұрын
​@@amicloud_yt 🤓🤓🤓
@ruination126
@ruination126 2 ай бұрын
This quality of video vs subscriber count is grossly underrated. I thought i stumbled on a 500k+ channel lol
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that, thank you!
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed 3 ай бұрын
~Major Aerospace manufacturers hate this one WEIRD trick to add %30 more to your turbine engine!~
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
"click here to find hot local turbojets in your area" 😂
@marcysundew
@marcysundew 3 ай бұрын
wow randomly found this video, nice bro
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro✌️
@alexsv1938
@alexsv1938 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you could add another compression stage? The pressure seems quite low, as even the first jet engines had around a ratio of 2. Either axial (to act as a axial inducer and stabilize the flow before entering the centrifugal stage) or centrifugal, and perhaps a thrust augmentation nozzle like those tested by NACA? Though it is probably the jet engine itself that is the weak link, but given that you are working on a follow-up it probably doesn't matter. You should perhaps look at the Jumo 004B's combustion chamber for some inspiration, those reached 95% efficiency and compared to more modern ones, are easier to find and get your hands on.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
The compressor speed is currently the limiting factor, I think if I add more stages it'll just slow down the motors more and negate any benefit. Like you said, I'm working on a new turbocharged project, and I'm designing it so that the compressor section is easily swapped out. I plan on testing centrifugal and axial compressors to see how they affect performance. Thanks, I appreciate it!
@PixilFox
@PixilFox 3 ай бұрын
This is so cool but im pretty sure with a propeller and those two dc motors you could generate even more thrust
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
That sounds like a very interesting experiment👀
@Nikoxion
@Nikoxion 3 ай бұрын
I have no idea how I ended up on this video, but this is an awesome project! Super interesting!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@odin0522
@odin0522 3 ай бұрын
Cool stuff!!!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@user-kw7zb8qw1u
@user-kw7zb8qw1u 2 ай бұрын
The bigger the turbo the more that jet going bang
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude 3 ай бұрын
Thumbs up for you having a lathe! All of the hip 3D printing people I know dont have one. They think its some obsolete grandpa tool. They then proceed to show up every week to use my lathe :D
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Oh they're invaluable! I have not regretted getting one, even just a little one is better than none😂
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally If you're really crafty you can build damn near *anything* with only a lathe. No 3D printing, no milling machine, no CNC anything either. You need to buy or build an attachment for the vertical axis though because a lathe only has two horizontal ones (carriage and cross slide) so you need to 'fudge' the third axis.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 ай бұрын
KZfaqr Paul's Garage is using 3d printed masters to sand cast parts for a DIY lathe.
@Andrei-pt8vo
@Andrei-pt8vo 3 ай бұрын
Channel seems underrated; hope it takes off 🤙
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
You and me both, thank you!
@AlJay0032
@AlJay0032 3 ай бұрын
Nice, maybe a two stage compressor to get even more airflow and higher pressure? Maybe two first stage inputs feeding into one secondary stage?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure! I was considering making and axial compressor, but a two stage would definitely work too!
@AlJay0032
@AlJay0032 3 ай бұрын
The fan show down series is looking for the fans with the highest static pressure this time, maybe you can get some inspirations from those designs.@@Neally
@jsh111
@jsh111 3 ай бұрын
​@@NeallyI mentioned this in another comment, but perhaps a free axial stages prior to your current centrifugal stage. I think there are designs that have two stage centrifugal, but that's the limit due to the forces experienced by the second compressor if I remember correctly
@JannisDesigns
@JannisDesigns 2 ай бұрын
Damn that peek-RPM at 30.000.000 (MILLION ?!) 4:32
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I think it's just some sort of interference on the hall effect sensor, it does the same thing at lower rpm too
@RyanCribari
@RyanCribari 2 ай бұрын
im amazed the impeller holds up. nice work!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was surprised by how sturdy it is as well.. Makes me wonder how far I can actually push it
@nathanielmiskell2101
@nathanielmiskell2101 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I would be interested in the files for the turbo if they are available.
@Me.is.Malhar
@Me.is.Malhar 3 ай бұрын
Hidden Gem of a channel!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks!
@PCBWay
@PCBWay 2 ай бұрын
This is so GOOD!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Glad you guys think so!
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 2 ай бұрын
I was trained on the T56A-14 Turbo prop. 4600 SHP output. 20,000 HP input to compressor. Just a FYI perspective.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Yeah those are definitely some crazy numbers.
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 2 ай бұрын
@@Neally Yeah, sometimes reality just sucks... I drive towards efficiency, even though I love turbines. They are getting better. Most people don't understand ICE. It's not the combustion that makes the power, but the expanding atmosphere it heats up. And in that atmosphere is water. Water to steam is 1000:1.
@saidalkhudry6502
@saidalkhudry6502 3 ай бұрын
nice, but i think if you printed fan or an axial compresor with multiplying bldc motor from used hdd its will be a good project, you can adding motor in series flow and make it reverse spin every section
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I want to start working on an axial compressor very soon!
@NeoIsrafil
@NeoIsrafil 3 ай бұрын
Man this is awesome, any chance of you uploading the STLs or step or....really anything thatll let me print one too to the thingyverse ya got listed? :) Anyhow, subbed :)
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yep I'm working on posting stuff for you guys!
@camurrio8988
@camurrio8988 3 ай бұрын
This guy is building a drinking jet engine while iterate on various thing, i actually speedrunned this and going to sub instantly, just one thing you need to proceed slowly enough to not stress out TOO MUCH, we want and must see your progress but keep in mind that you need to think to do this at the right pace for yourself!!!!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I do have to keep that in mind because I get carried away sometimes. I appreciate it🤟
@GarinOhanian-ot3sv
@GarinOhanian-ot3sv 13 күн бұрын
It looks great!! Are you using PLA or ABS?
@josephl2027
@josephl2027 3 ай бұрын
well done!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@PhilipLeichauer
@PhilipLeichauer 2 ай бұрын
My HVLP spray system has a 3 stage radial blower. They're just high pressure vacuum cleaner motors. Suspect the only way to get much higher outlet pressure with a 3d printed system is to add a stage. It will start to get warm however, so choice of print material would be important. On the combustion side. Are you making use of the propane to bootstrap air flow? By that i mean, heat it in the exhaust to vaporise it and generate a bit of pressure, then use the pressure in a venturi or air amplifier style nozzle to suck air into the combustion chamber. Looks fun. Wish there was enough time for such projects!
@illusion7951
@illusion7951 3 ай бұрын
I demand the next video NOW great stuff
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I'm working on it😂
@tomvandenbroecke7388
@tomvandenbroecke7388 3 ай бұрын
lovely to see how you will blow up for sure keep up the good work
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 ай бұрын
Exploding is very important for science.
@justinmacdonald6079
@justinmacdonald6079 2 ай бұрын
Keep it up, I love the content. I subscribed
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Will do 🤟
@gimmeabreak6022
@gimmeabreak6022 3 ай бұрын
how in the world does this have only 10k views? this is crazy good work, your content is really beautiful just subbed!!! edited my spellings and grammar, lost Neally's heart cuz of edit :(
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, friend! I appreciate it 🤟
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I got you😂
@gimmeabreak6022
@gimmeabreak6022 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally 😍🤩
@loiphin
@loiphin 3 ай бұрын
I am just amazed you can 3D print an impeller and it withstands 20K RPM :O
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Lol yeah I was wondering how much it can actually take before blowing up.. I wanna see if I can push it to 40-50k😂
@sickmusicamoguswhetfartonm6987
@sickmusicamoguswhetfartonm6987 3 ай бұрын
nice video dude, your different to other engineering creators but in a good way, your stuff looks professional clean and well done. i will recommend your channel to my friends that like this stuff
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, friend! I appreciate it!
@sickmusicamoguswhetfartonm6987
@sickmusicamoguswhetfartonm6987 2 ай бұрын
@@Neally i love your stuff so far and expect even more in the future as your channel grows, you should be good tho cus you only cook up great vids
@dhm-9071
@dhm-9071 2 ай бұрын
So much respected me brethren for your ingenuity. What we need now is another concept. Tandem Quad-Copter, normal frame and minus all tha plasticy-plastic. Similar to *Jetson ONE* but quite larger . Eight BLDC motors but in four pairs in co-axial. No main battery. Or perhaps small emergency batteries but only as a redundancy. What I mean in essence is a Gas-Turbine with Rectifier converting the AC into DC. Technology is so far ahead that BLDC motor and The Switch/Transistor cooling is no longer an issue. Look up for *WeberAuto* YT Channel explaining the Tesla Motor cooling. There are so many additions to this concept and its quite possible to be the most fast, maneuverable flying VTOL- machine. I am sharing my ideas because I am not capable to manufacture this beautiful flying machine but I would be soooo happy if someone build it before me!!!! Good Luck, Brethren!!!!!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, friend! I'm not sure that I'm the right person for this, but we'll see what happens in the future
@leomonk974
@leomonk974 3 ай бұрын
WOW!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@engina1572
@engina1572 3 ай бұрын
Very fun project I have some ideas that could help you out. It appears your centrifugal is having some compressor surge. Also you might find that adding a variable vane inlet. And also a bleed band on the compressor to help get past the hump of that surge zone. It looks like it’s having a hung start and you may find that having a duplex nozzle will help with that. Like having a fairly raw start fuel circuit and then slowly transition to primary fuel. Usually I start my turbines up around 12% n1 or compressor speed. Iirc around 34% is when we will make the swap from secondary to primary. There are some other things that can help too like maybe a diffuser.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Wow this is really detailed, thank you! I'll spend some time researching the stuff you're talking about, and I'll see how best to implement it. There is a diffuser but it's incorporated into the top of the volute, I think I may design it differently in the future. I appreciate the advice!
@engina1572
@engina1572 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally hey no problem it’s such a cool project. I have often wanted to make something similar but as a independent power adder for cars etc. I overhaul turbines for a living so if you have any questions or your stuck on something lmk. Although I don’t actually know how to really use this you tube well.
@WildEngineering
@WildEngineering 3 ай бұрын
damn when the video ended i was like, this dude is actually doing cool shit, he earned a sub. lmaoo.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Cool shit is the only stuff worth doing, thanks bro!
@carlson6022
@carlson6022 2 ай бұрын
How are you getting so many RPM out of 3d printed parts… that’s amazing.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I don't even know.. But it's holding up shockingly well, which makes me wanna push it even harder😂
@lusher00
@lusher00 3 ай бұрын
Buy the cheap modified iron with thread on tips for the threaded heat-set inserts. Even with that it’s hard to get them perfect enough to make a long screw even appear straight but it’s still extremely satisfying to watch them go in
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I should build a linear press for them
@lusher00
@lusher00 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally I would definitely build a press if I needed them to be perfect. I’ve been wanting to build a compressor like this for a long time so this is quite inspiring. There is another really good video on KZfaq about ducted fan theory you might find useful. Pretty sure it’s the only one of its kind
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's why I haven't yet, but definitely give it a shot, it's a super rewarding project! And send a link if you remember what it's called, cheers!
@lusher00
@lusher00 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally it’s called “how to apply ducted fan theory to real world fans” by Wymans Workshop
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@1495978707
@1495978707 3 ай бұрын
Remember, cars have at minimum a compression ratio of like 3-4, and they're already like only 30% efficient. Look up heat engine cycles and you'll see that getting a hugher compression ratio is the single most important thing for you to figure out at this point. One of the issues I think I see here is that your combustion chamber is larger in cross section than the inlet of your turbine, which means that you're actually expanding the gas when it should be squeezed as much as possible. Make a smooth throat, and do combustion in the throat. Make the throat as narrow as you need until you get an acceptable compression ratio. The reason regular turbines are the normal choice is because you get positive feedback, it's even possible to have runaway occur because of this. Whereas the electric motors will falter and peter out as speed increases. You'll also want to have a shell around the combustion chamber, and have flutes in the chamber so that cool air can keep the metal from melting when it's running as hot as it should be
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was rather disappointed with the electric motors, but they were more of a proof of concept than anything else. I'm currently building a proper turbine engine to drive the compressor, so I'm sure well see some improvement very soon!
@meanman6992
@meanman6992 3 ай бұрын
Actual turbos spin around 130,000-150,000+ rpm so yeah…. Gonna need a lot more electric motor to run that thing… I am impressed you got a PLA compressor wheel to 30,000rpm though.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Or say screw the electric motor and build a turbine to drive it instead 👀
@meanman6992
@meanman6992 2 ай бұрын
@@NeallyI mean I’d just rob a turbine from a junkyard turbo… gasoline engine turbo turbines are typically made from inconel steel as well which will take the heat.
@yajatvashisht4873
@yajatvashisht4873 2 ай бұрын
Very cool stuff🙌🙌💯… can you tell me what sensor are you using for measuring pressure and thrust?
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Pressure is measured by a 30psi pressure transducer, and thrust by a 20kg load cell! Thanks!
@user-gz2py8ie5t
@user-gz2py8ie5t 3 ай бұрын
over 100 g is not much, but how great that someone create a homemade jet engine, pls make a bigger one, pls
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
In my most recent test it made 500g, but a bigger engine is on the way!
@chkarron
@chkarron 3 ай бұрын
Wow!!! 👏
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@RoketEngineer
@RoketEngineer 3 ай бұрын
You may need to adjust the loudness settings on your video to match youtube's standard.
@jammindesigns7135
@jammindesigns7135 3 ай бұрын
Hey I know it’s a a lot harder for your size application but I’ve gotten small turbos about 1/4 the compressor wheel size of yours with resin printers, very similar numbers with FDM if not better for your use case. Got them up to 1psi at 60-70k rpm. Lot of heat develops at the blades after those numbers in resin prints in my tests. I say mess with scaling percentages in the decimal points and work on getting a tighter tolerance too on the housing
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
For sure! I'm working on a turbojet right now which should let me push the compressor a lot harder, so I'll do more testing on it then! 60-70k rpm is massive though, good on you for pulling it off
@ericbarna5978
@ericbarna5978 3 ай бұрын
Nice project! I noticed that there was a bit of surging so maybe try messing with the length of the outlet pipe? This should improve your air fuel ratio even further and also provide a means of back pressure for your fan to fight against and thus build more pressure and more thrust
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'll play around with that and we'll see what happens. I ended up printing a new volute with tighter tolerances to make the gaps as tight as possible, and that increased the static pressure to nearly a full psi, I'm curious to see how that test run will go.. It should help at least a little bit with the surge issue
@ericbarna5978
@ericbarna5978 3 ай бұрын
Happy to hear! Pressure is a funny thing @@Neally
@willjohnson3907
@willjohnson3907 3 ай бұрын
Compound the two! Hope you don’t melt the second impeller though
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
That's a cool idea, I maybe try something similar with the new engine!
@nellykarron8086
@nellykarron8086 3 ай бұрын
Danke für das gute Video.👍❤
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
❤️
@vipervidsgamingplus5723
@vipervidsgamingplus5723 2 ай бұрын
Is there some way I can download the stl files for the compressor? I want to build it myself so I can run my seventy five cc engine with it.
@xgamer4116
@xgamer4116 3 ай бұрын
that's really cool dude, next project I really recommend you to work on a pulse jet engine, those a really cool and easier too.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Great idea! I'm working on a turbo jet right now, but maybe I'll build a pulse jet after that one👌
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally Do both. Pulsed combustion increases thermodynamic efficiency, but reduces efficiency of a turbine section. Since you're not doing a turbine section, you won't have those loses. Of course, pulsed combustion noise isn't exactly neighborhood friendly. You're doing stuff I've dreamed of doing for a while. Integza channel is a huge motivator too, but I was interested in this stuff prior to that. Integza just shows you how much you can push 3d printing! I did a smaller logan style pulsejet a when I was a kid. Now I have a random turbo laying around, and I've tested 3d printing the compressor from Integza using Nylon Carbon Fiber. Also bought a propellor rpm meter. And I have glow plugs from my old diesel that I had hoped to use for liquid startup of a jet engine. :D But I have too many hobbies, so just haven't put it all together. Maybe as my kids get older,....
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I think my neighbours probably already hate me so there's not much to lose in that department.😂 That's a really cool idea though, I'll look into it!
@Whateverpoopiepants
@Whateverpoopiepants 3 ай бұрын
Consider making the “neck” for the inlet longer and with a bell mouth.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Will do! Thanks
@gargoylekingGWO
@gargoylekingGWO 2 ай бұрын
This is awesome u think we can mount one in the back of ny Challenger and it would go faster? 😊
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if it would do much for you as it is right now, but we definitely could😂
@mikee7490
@mikee7490 3 ай бұрын
very nice! for the 3d prints that need to be printed together, are there any parameters that you need to set on the slicer? Ive been having trouble getting mine too fit
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I didn't do anything special on the slicer, but I designed the parts with certain tolerances in mind to have it all fit smoothly
@mikee7490
@mikee7490 3 ай бұрын
@Neally would an example be like if it was 15mm you would scale it down 1 or 2 mm just in case it would expand I'm guessing?
@arthur-up8zj
@arthur-up8zj 2 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on how the impeller is designed
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking about designing a different impeller for the compressor, so I may get around to doing that!
@PastThePoint
@PastThePoint 25 күн бұрын
You may have felt this video was cursed, but it definitely earned you a new sub here! 🤣
@sirquenton477
@sirquenton477 2 ай бұрын
i have a good idea to make more thrust it woud eat more fule but a afterburner
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Love it! I'll be working on something like that very soon ;)
@rileyrandall730
@rileyrandall730 2 ай бұрын
What are you using to measure the pressure at the outlet of the compressor?
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
A 30psi pressure transducer for oil/water, it works just the same with air
@butre.
@butre. 3 ай бұрын
have you published the 3d models for this anywhere? I could use a turbine like that for a project I'm working on
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I'm working on making something available!
@c-ptsd46
@c-ptsd46 2 ай бұрын
Don't know where you live bro but I am pretty sure I heard you swear profusely when you dropped that off the bench and I live in Australia, cool video cheers.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
You've got good ears, friend😂 Cheers from Canada!
@codydixon9049
@codydixon9049 2 ай бұрын
can you release the files i wanna use this as a fan and a turbo for a small engine.
@TheAnachronist
@TheAnachronist 2 ай бұрын
You do want to actually choke the jet engine throat, tho. Won't get good thrust unless you do. But you need like a 1.9:1 pressure ratio for air at room temperature to get choked flow, so 0.7psi ain't gonna cut it. 12psi (above ambient) is probably required. So 17 of those boys combined. (temperature will get to about 165°F from compression if you do that, so need material that can handle that.)
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, I came to the same conclusion through my tests. Thrust went up until the compressor started surging because it wasn't producing enough pressure. I might design a new compressor to try to squeeze out a little more performance, but I've started working on a turbojet to avoid the motor problem as a whole
@Derrick-ne9xs
@Derrick-ne9xs 2 ай бұрын
Should definitely put it in a Honda Civic
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. That civic is gonna go Mach 8
@guyh26362
@guyh26362 3 ай бұрын
What software or cad do you use to make stuff like this? I’m just getting into 3d printing but I want a good software to make cool stuff on eventually.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Personally I started on fusion 360, their non commercial version is free and I've been using it since I started. I had a chance to work with solidworks for a while and ended up returning to fusion because solidworks felt kinda clunky. Start with fusion, it's very user friendly and you'll get a feel for the basics, which carry over to other platforms.. Plus it's free🤷
@guyh26362
@guyh26362 3 ай бұрын
@@NeallyThank you!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Of course!
@zaelu
@zaelu 3 ай бұрын
how would you change the compressor so it creates (useful) thrust without the fuel burning chamber?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I would build a ducted fan rather than a compressor. A fan is much better at simply moving air to create thrust, since it doesn't waste energy on compressing the air. I need the compressor because it pressurizes the air for combustion, but the compressor itself doesn't really add much thrust
@zaelu
@zaelu 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally Thanks for answering! So for propulsion like those in development human caring drones you can see everywhere on youtube it makes sense to have only ducted fans (or the axial compressor part of a axial jet engine) because of the reason you explained above, right? I am asking because I am thinking about what it's missing from those projects and I think they run for range and lose all best features they could get by using jet propulsion instead of propellers. And one thing I am thinking about is increased safety, simplicity and compactness with centrifugal compressors. So I am wondering if the loss is that significant.... considering range is not a first issue for my idea.
@grzegorzskuza7825
@grzegorzskuza7825 3 ай бұрын
How much power does the compressor use? And how does it compare to thrust value?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I don't have an exact number for you, but while testing the speed controller popped its 20amp fuse twice, and the motors run on 24v, so as a ballpark estimate I'd say something around 480 watts. The latest test I ran produces 484g of thrust... I feel like that ratio is pretty abysmal, but we'll improve it
@GTech_builds
@GTech_builds 3 ай бұрын
this puts my homemade back yard shenanigans to shame
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I've been at it for a long time haha, I looked at some of your stuff and you're doing great. See if you can get yourself a 3d printer at some point and with a little bit of CAD you'll be able to make those engines come to life
@GTech_builds
@GTech_builds 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally thats the plan just might be a couple years cause a pickup truck was not cheap
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
Neally, here's a similar idea but he uses an aluminum compressor from a turbocharger and it can withstand much higher RPM than a plastic one can, especially a 3D printed one. He's getting over 3 PSI pressure and his engine produces about 900 grams of thrust (about 2 pounds.) Here you go! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJmhZZV2p6iaip8.html
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I think with a faster motor, and a more optimized design we might be able to get close to something like that too. It's really cool to see how similar the designs are too! Thanks!
@dustinbarnes7500
@dustinbarnes7500 2 ай бұрын
I am curious about the Static pressure tester "the boxduino" what components did you use? Id love to build one
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
It's a 30psi pressure transducer hooked up to an arduino. The transducer outputs 0.5v to 4.5v depending on the pressure making it pretty easy to use with the arduino
@dustinbarnes7500
@dustinbarnes7500 2 ай бұрын
@@Neally thanks man I like what your doing keep up the good work
@user-nl8tm8jl8l
@user-nl8tm8jl8l 3 ай бұрын
We need like 50 youtubers + Michael Reeves to make a gimbaling rocket engine with like 20 pounds of thrust.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
With that many brains we could probably put a rocket in space😂
@viduraherath4008
@viduraherath4008 3 ай бұрын
Hi, im wanting to get my own 3d printer to make such impellers and usable components as well as foaming filament for plane components. What printer did you use here? Was it a resin or an fdm printer an what model was it?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I used an ender 3 s1 pro for this build!
@viduraherath4008
@viduraherath4008 3 ай бұрын
Do you think i could pull of the same thing with an ender 3 v3 ke or should i save up a bit extra for the s1 pro?@@Neally
@viduraherath4008
@viduraherath4008 3 ай бұрын
Also what filament have you found works best for high speed rotating components?@@Neally
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Pla and Petg are great
@user-io6vk8su7g
@user-io6vk8su7g 3 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@austinroxout
@austinroxout 2 ай бұрын
One of these days makers will realize resin printers exist and produce accurate and smooth parts. One day...
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I mean it's something I plan on getting eventually, but I prioritized other tools, like the lathe and tig welder
@Apexseals87
@Apexseals87 2 ай бұрын
my question is, is the thrust due to the motor blowing air, or is it actually combustion. gotta test them separately to find out.
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I did test in a previous video. And pouring liquid propane into the engine wouldn't double and triple the thrust if was just the compressor producing thrust...
@GeorgiGK9
@GeorgiGK9 3 ай бұрын
Do you think this possible with car turbo ?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Oh for sure! It would be even better with one of those
@RinksRides
@RinksRides 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry m8, it'll disassemble itself. 😂
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Shockingly, it's held up pretty well so far 😂
@bradwatton5385
@bradwatton5385 2 ай бұрын
The algorithm is picking you up, review what you did this video and try to replicate but better
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
That's the plan!
@jeyasurya9580
@jeyasurya9580 2 ай бұрын
what sensor for you use for rpm and pressure? i am curious
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Hall effect sensor for rpm, and a pressure transducer for the pressure
@treylon_sprayart
@treylon_sprayart 3 ай бұрын
Is thera a way i can get these files to this compressor 😊
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm putting the files together right now, I'll announce it in the video on Saturday!
@mixanthony
@mixanthony 3 күн бұрын
Why do you have calipers on a spinning shaft?
@ragesmirk
@ragesmirk 3 ай бұрын
KZfaq randomly referred me to this video due to the 3D printing hashtag
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Strange, it's almost as if it's about a fully 3d printed compressor😉 cheers!
@cachepilll286
@cachepilll286 3 ай бұрын
what is the material for the impeller?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Plain PLA!
@cachepilll286
@cachepilll286 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally ngl i was not expecting that, thank you
@sabre2112
@sabre2112 2 ай бұрын
How did you balance your rotating assembly?
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
I used slow motion video to see where the imbalance caused the rotation to slow down while it was spinning in its bearings, and then used a hand file to remove enough material off the underside of the impeller wheel to balance it. It took a little bit but it worked decently well
@ReShapeFabrication
@ReShapeFabrication 2 ай бұрын
This project is incredible! Seeing the capabilities of 3D printing is amazing. If you are looking for metal 3D printed parts, please reach out! We are a startup offering affordable metal 3D printing services!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks! I'll keep you guys in mind🤟
@johniccia6175
@johniccia6175 3 ай бұрын
Run 4 motors and have the ratio for higher rpm
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Haha yeah that might work, but it would look pretty wild
@gutrali
@gutrali 3 ай бұрын
I'm new to this, but an engine that cannot self sustain and that gets it's primary power from electricity is called a motor. In your case, I would venture you say that you have built an electric jet motor.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Interesting, I think you'd be right if the thrust were coming from the compressor, but the majority of thrust is a result of burning fuel so I believe it is a jet engine, by definition.
@gutrali
@gutrali 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Neallyhow is it the majority if you had 450g on propane and 233g electric only? Depending on the motor used, static thrust in excess of 700 grams can be achieved at 200 W input with a simple electric ducted fan .... No need for propane nor a turbine nor your separate compressor at all. A ducted fan is so small, light, simple, reliable, wildly available, and cheap, and can outperform what you have here. The amount of energy you lose in the belt is way more than you think, ducted fan is direct drive.....
@nhocdorebita145
@nhocdorebita145 3 ай бұрын
Running with Diesel will make your engine produce more power
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
That's the plan! Kerosene injection is the idea for the next video
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 3 ай бұрын
No it won't. It will allow you to use cheaper fuel, and very slightly less fuel for the same thrust. Using gasoline might make it easier to have ignition and combustion. When I built one of these back in the mid-'90s I used a mixture of diesel fuel and gasoline. A jet engine's power output (thrust) is primarily determined by its airflow capacity and its compressor pressure, not what kind of fuel you use.
@USBEN.
@USBEN. 3 ай бұрын
INSTANT SUB!
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@darrenl6797
@darrenl6797 3 ай бұрын
Share the CAD files for those of us who want to print this?
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'll make something available in a little bit
@jackjohn6063
@jackjohn6063 3 ай бұрын
I wanna see shock diamonds, more boost!
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
Me too! We'll get there eventually👌
@jackjohn6063
@jackjohn6063 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally looking forward to it!
@jackjohn6063
@jackjohn6063 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally What are you gunna strap the finished product to? if you dont mind my asking. May I suggest a classic original "Little Red Wagon" no mods just a 10 ft stream of shock diomands coming off the back. I gaurantee your channel will explode, and hopefully only just your channel, not the wagon.
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I started working on a new engine yesterday that I plan putting in a small self built rc airplane, the idea of flying is fascinating to me and I wanna see if we can make it happen
@jackjohn6063
@jackjohn6063 3 ай бұрын
@@Neally nice
@jonerikrafdal810
@jonerikrafdal810 2 ай бұрын
Compression thank vith blodbank valve may help....but can you please put your jet infront of a ram jet to se if you get " mak5" 😅
@francescoranchi3689
@francescoranchi3689 2 ай бұрын
Hello, why can't the compressor have a unique shaft with the turbine wheel so that you can, after the turbine gets to good RPM, turn off the electric motor and let it run using only the fuel and not the electric motor?
@Neally
@Neally 2 ай бұрын
You can do that, it would be a turbojet at that point. I built this one to test different ideas and to see how it all works together. I'm currently working on building a new engine to do exactly that!
@francescoranchi3689
@francescoranchi3689 2 ай бұрын
@@Neally what is the technical name for this turbine you build? Not turbojet but what’s it called?
@SpoolTitan
@SpoolTitan 3 ай бұрын
So like what about getting it to 50,000 rpm
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
That was my original goal for the compressor, but I severely disappointed by the performance of the DC motors
@ahmedhamody842
@ahmedhamody842 2 ай бұрын
can you upload your design for the super charger please
@champgamer4394
@champgamer4394 Ай бұрын
What drive shaft did you use?
@Neally
@Neally Ай бұрын
8mm linear rod
@sgt_metz
@sgt_metz 3 ай бұрын
Liquid fuel yes!!!
@Mattya5
@Mattya5 3 ай бұрын
what if you used a jet engine to spool a car turbo and put that turbo on a crown victoria because those things are indestructible
@Neally
@Neally 3 ай бұрын
I'd say skip the jet and just turbocharge the Vic as is😂
@Mattya5
@Mattya5 2 ай бұрын
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